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From today's PROJO
The forum, held in partnership with the Rhode Island section of the National Council of Jewish Women, will be held Tuesday at 7 p.m. at the Providence Marriot, 1 Orms St. It will be free and open to the public.
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Ironic , because who would ever want a massage from a Jewish woman ??
[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]Ironic , because who would ever want a massage from a Jewish woman ??[/QUOTE]
Me........
[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]Ironic , because who would ever want a massage from a Jewish woman ??[/QUOTE]It isn't the capability that's in question, just the will...
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Ironic , because who would ever want a massage from a Jewish woman ??[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phat Bastard]
Me........[/QUOTE]
The Scene = Little Yarmulke Spa
P·B is on the table
A Jewish American Princess stands four feet away , filing her nails
In a whiny nasally voice , she says =
[i] " When ah ya gunna cum ?? " [/i]
Sounds just great , P·B .... Count me out
[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]The Scene = Little Yarmulke Spa
P·B is on the table
A Jewish American Princess stands four feet away , filing her nails
In a whiny nasally voice , she says =
[i] " When ah ya gunna cum ?? " [/i]
Sounds just great , P·B .... Count me out[/QUOTE]
Ahahahahaha, perfectly written scenario PZ, just perfect.
I can picture it too, no problem at all with a whole bunch of women I've known and it's giving me the shivers....
[size=2][b]Two charged at massage parlors[/b][/size]
01:00 AM EST on Wednesday, November 29, 2006
By Gregory Smith
Journal Staff Writer
[font=courier]PROVIDENCE — An undercover police detective who went into a suspected massage parlor on North Main Street got a bath and a massage that included a masseuse walking on his back — but no offer of sex.
That is what happened Monday afternoon when the city police investigated North Main Street Spa. Detective Anthony Hampton got clean and had his muscles kneaded, and that was enough, the police say, to constitute a violation of law.
Sumi Ray, 53, of 57 Brewster St., was charged with one count of violating a state statute, by operating and managing a massage therapy establishment while knowingly employing an unlicensed therapist and allowing that unlicensed person to perform massage.
That was one of two massage parlors where the police sent an undercover detective Monday. Detective Anthony Hames went to Central Health, 76 Oregon St., where the police allege that a masseuse offered him sex for money, pointing to his genital area and suggesting that she could make him “happy.”
The police have been frustrated in their effort to clamp down on prostitution that occurs indoors, so as an alternative they have taken to looking for license crimes. Only streetwalkers and the people who solicit them can be found guilty of a prostitution-related crime, under a 26-year-old law with a loophole that exempts indoor prostitution.
Mayor David N. Cicilline and the police last year failed to persuade the General Assembly to close the loophole. Police Chief Dean M. Esserman has said they will try again next year.
The local officials contend that brothels are set up to masquerade as massage parlors and that many of the women who work in them are foreign nationals who are being exploited.
“We think that we are going to try again on these two cases” by prosecuting license crimes, Maj. Stephen Campbell said yesterday.
Although the masseuse at Central Health acted as a prostitute, she could not be charged with a crime, he said. If she had made the same offer outside, on the grass or in a minivan, she would have been guilty of soliciting for prostitution, he contended.
A man who was identified as the manager of Central Health, Brian Fontaine, 37, of 20 General St., was charged with the same crime that the police lodged against Ray. It is punishable by a maximum fine of $1,000 and/or 30 days’ imprisonment.
At both locations, according to Campbell, there were women working who are apparently foreign-born and live on the premises.
The North Main Street Spa, at 1185 North Main St., in an office-style storefront across the street from Off-Track Bedding and a Brooks pharmacy, was open for business yesterday. A woman who answered the inner door inside an Asian-style foyer had no comment about the police visit the day before.
On Monday, Ray admitted Hampton to the spa and asked if he had been there before. Hampton said yes. Inside a dimly lit massage room, according to the police, Hampton gave her a marked $100 bill to pay the $60 charge. She told him to get undressed and to cover himself with a towel, which he said he did, and after he received the change from his $100, he was escorted to a sauna room.
After about five minutes in the sauna, a woman called May, who was later identified as Ok Lee, 54, took him to a shower stall and gave him a bath, according to a police report. They then returned to the room where he disrobed and he lay on a padded table for what became a 20-minute massage.
Lee then climbed atop the table, grabbed a metal rod that was hanging from the ceiling, for support, and walked on his back.
After climbing off the table, Hampton said Lee asked, “Was everything good?” and that he responded, “Everything was good. I’ll come back when I have more time.” He then tipped her $40.
The detective went to a prearranged rendezvous with other officers, and then they returned, questioned six women who apparently were working there, and recovered the $100 bill.
Lee was unable to produce a massage therapy license, according to the police, and Ray was arrested. [/font]
[size=2][b]Officials decry trafficking of women for sex[/b][/size]
01:00 AM EST on Wednesday, November 29, 2006
By W. Zachary Malinowski
Journal Staff Writer
[font=courier]PROVIDENCE — The global problem of human trafficking in the sex industry touched down in Providence last night as a ranking police official outlined the growth of brothels masquerading as massage parlors in the city in recent years.
Maj. Stephen Campbell, commander of the Providence police investigative bureau, informed a rapt audience that there are about 75 to 100 South Korean women providing sexual gratification to men in “10 to 11 brothels” scattered across Providence.
Campbell said the women work, sleep and eat in the dingy massage parlors that are run from storefronts near the State House, downtown and on South Main Street.
“They work from the time they get up til the time they go to bed,” he said. “They don’t go home at night.” Campbell said the women, mostly between the ages of 20 and 50, sleep on mattresses and cook from Sterno cans in the back rooms.
He said his detectives have tried to question the South Korean women who work in the local brothels, but their work is difficult because most of the women don’t speak English, and, even if they do, they are reluctant to speak to a police officer.
Still, the investigators have gleaned some information. Campbell said many of the women come to Providence for a few weeks or months, while others are here for just a weekend or a few days. Asked whether they know they are in Providence, the women respond, “I don’t know what city I’m in.”
Campbell said it’s also clear that there is a sophisticated network in place with contacts that transports the women in vans to cities along the East Coast.
The localization of a global problem was brought to light last night at a public forum called “Look Beneath the Surface,” a discussion on human trafficking and the exploitation of women and children in the sex industry. The forum, at the Providence Marriott hotel, was sponsored by Mayor David N. Cicilline and the National Council of Jewish Women.
Helene Hayes, a nun and expert on the global trafficking of women, told the crowd of more than 100 about her research in the Far East, Europe and the United States on women who have been enslaved in the sex industry. Gathering the material for a book, Hayes said she interviewed 59 women from 18 countries about their harrowing lives.
She asked the women what was the hardest part of their lives of servitude.
“Being treated violently. Being drugged and beaten,” said one. Another woman said, “He treated me like a dog, a slave. He had no feelings for me. I complied because I did not want to die.”
She also asked the women about their greatest fear.
Said one, “Getting AIDS or getting killed by street boys.”
“I was most afraid of sadistic clients,” said another.
Donna Hughes, a professor in the women’s studies program at the University of Rhode Island, provided some startling statistics about human trafficking. She pointed out that figures are sketchy because victims are reluctant to come forward, but she cited numbers from the U.S. government that show about 5.2 million people are trafficked annually in their countries or across international borders. She said most of those trafficked – 70 percent are women and children – are from East Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and Africa.
Hughes also said that in the criminal world, the profits from the sex trade rank third, behind drugs and gun-running.
“It’s a low-risk, high-profit enterprise,” she said.
Instead of arresting and prosecuting women for sex crimes, Hughes said it’s imperative to go after the pimps, traffickers and the abusers. “We have to start making men accountable for their behavior,” she said.
Historically, the prostitutes, not the Johns or pimps, are arrested.
Hughes also condemned aspects of our culture that tend to glorify or minimize the exploitation of women. She pointed out that young people host theme parties with “pimps and ho’s” and the subject is a staple among rap artists.
In Rhode Island, it is illegal to solicit sex on the street but the law does not apply to paid sex indoors. In the past, city officials have lobbied to have the law changed.
Recently, the Providence police, instead of arresting the women, have been going after the managers of the massage parlors and the owners of the buildings for violating nuisance ordinances. He said the managers have been getting slapped with $1,000 fines and up to 30 days in jail.
Cicilline emphasized that he wants Providence to be in the forefront of tackling the issue of human trafficking.
“This is a very, very serious issue nationally and a serious issue in Rhode Island,” he said.
The Providence police and federal agencies, including Rhode Island U.S. Attorney Robert Clark Corrente, have been huddling to find ways to address the larger problem of human trafficking. “We are only beginning,” Campbell said.
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The Providence PD is really the scum of the earth. They're having their little forum w/ Miss 59 women from 18 countries (WTF do women from Cambodia or Russia or some other place have to do with 53 yr old Koreans?), so they try to peacock by making a raid for the same day's headlines. But they find ... one woman obeying the law and one giving a back rub. Unable to face the embarrassing fact that they are full of lies they had to once again abuse and harass people.
These cases are complete bullshit and if the MPs get a good lawyer they will be thrown out. A judge already ruled that the law is clear and that it is not what the PD claims it is. Yet this abuse of innocent people continues because the Mayor is just as big a hypocrite and asshole as the PD and their chief shithead. Those who remember the case from earlier in the year will know why.
I wonder how Major Campbell would do if he went to a foreign country, didn't speak the language, and was left w/o a tour guide. I'm sure he'd know exactly where he was at all times. It is unbelievable that they can keep selling their lies w/o a shred of evidence.
I cannot think of adequate adjectives to express my disgust and contempt for these LE assholes.
Vito
[QUOTE=Virile Vito]The Providence PD is really the scum of the earth. They're having their little forum w/ Miss 59 women from 18 countries (WTF do women from Cambodia or Russia or some othe rplace have to do with 53 yr old Koreans?), so they try to peacock by making a raid for the same day's headlines. But they find ... one woman obeying the law and one giving a back rub. Unable to face the embarrassing fact that they are full of lies they had to once again abuse and harass people.
These cases are complete bullshit and if the MPs get a good lawyer they will thrown out. A judge already ruled that the law is clear and that it is not what the PD claims it is. Yet this abuse of innocent people continues because the Mayor is just as big a hypocrite and asshole as the PD and their chief shithead. Those who remember the case from earlier in the year will know why.
I wonder how Major Campbell would do if he went to a foreign country, didn't speak the language, and was left w/o a tour guide. I'm sure he'd know exactly where he was at all times. It is unbelievable that they can keep selling their lies w/o a shred of evidence.
I cannot think of adequate adjectives to express my disgust and contempt for these LE assholes.
Vito[/QUOTE]
I agree with all of it and add a couple of things. I was at that tedious and disappointing "Open Forum" Tuesday night. Not a shred of evidence was presented about "trafficking" in RI, yet the crowd was misled by the dishonest speakers into a frenzy of misplaced compassion and
pseudo-religious missionary zeal (you know: the lynch-mob, witch-burning, suicide-bombing kind) to stamp out the imagined epidemic of trafficking of young girls for the sex trade in L'il Rhody. It was a shameful display of intellectual dishonesty and self-serving manipulation of the gullible public. I hope the Mayor has at least one advisor who can show him the real facts and talk some real sense to him. But, gentlemen, look for a show of tax-supported bravado (not testosterone-driven, for sure!!) to harass us and the ladies for a few months until the silly business quiets down. Last night at Lily the ladies were skittish, looking suspiciously out the door as I went in and triple checking for signs of LE in my behavior.
rixy -- with all the ongoing/imminent attention to mps, you're a very brave guy
Guys I think you have summarized the situation quite well, this is another case of government spending resources to show similar to our asshole govenor spending time and dollars to eliminate gay marrage here in MA, dumb!
This really sucks. My regular visits to my favorite RI rub & tug are no longer going to be stress free. Probably is best to avoid for a while. Next, one of the TV stations will probably run another one of those undercover expose` stories. Always a ratings booster for them.
[QUOTE=NY Monger]rixy -- with all the ongoing/imminent attention to mps, you're a very brave guy[/QUOTE]I'll second that and add that you must have incredible patience to sit there and listen w/o exploding! Too bad someone didn't ask how a women w/ an American name is considered a trafficked foreign sex slave. Or why the LE assholes and myopic missionaries would feel so much better if these women were working in Korean McDonalds or some sweat shop or breaking their backs for little pay.
The Mayor has to be either impossibly naive to believe this crock of shit or he doesn't believe it and is just being an asshole. What he would have to gain by being such an asshole is beyond me, but I cannot believe he is that naive. Not him.
Vito
The Mayor has to be either impossibly naive to believe this crock of shit or he doesn't believe it and is just being an asshole.
He is being an asshole. He is playing politics to gain hardcore support from a certain segment of the electorate. This stuff plays very well with people from the religious right. It is the old Cotton Mather bullshit. They forget that Rhode Island was founded by Roger Williams, who was thrown out of Mass by the Puritans becaused he called them hippocrites.
BTW, I dropped by DownTown this afternoon and noone answered the door. There were a whole bunch of Xmas plants sitting on the stairs and the mail was laying by the door. Don't know what was going on but I headed over to Apple and got a great massage from Candy (she is just like her name).
The Mayor has to be either impossibly naive to believe this crock of shit or he doesn't believe it and is just being an asshole. What he would have to gain by being such an asshole is beyond me, but I cannot believe he is that naive. Not him.
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I hope you are right. There were "feds" in the audience also. I'm thinking that a big push behind the local madness is that feds are unable to do anything about real trafficking around the Country (and there probably is some) thus far, so instead they have set up RI AMPs to be destroyed on those fake grounds and then turn around and boast nationally that they have eliminated trafficking/slavery sites here. There is an unsubstantiated presumption among those who spoke and people like them that all MPs have slaves working in them. One of the speakers Tuesday night pretty much said that all prostitution is slavery and so it should all be eliminated to "free" the slaves. They even speak like it will be abolition of slavery again. The only little problem they overlook in their rhetoric is that there is no evidence of sex slavery in RI, but they don't seem to be bothered by such petty details.
Speaking of feds, there were several unmarked LE cars (maybe fed maybe local, I don't know) riding around our usual strolls last evening, and two were parked around the block from CH. I knew because I staked them out and watched the cars rendez-vous with each other, and one flashed its lights and pulled some guy over on Elmwood.
Decided to try DT today around 2:00. In the interest of full disclosure, I must confess that I was a bit nervous driving there. I couldn't help but wonder if it might be better to stay away for a while, what with the recent public forum and all. No sense running into an over zealous news reporter and crew (or Feds) going in or coming out.
Decided I was being overly paranoid. I parked in the nearby garage and walked over. I walked past the outside door and continued around the block to see that no one was watching the place. Walked in and up the stairs and rang the bell. Nobody answered. I noticed their mail sitting on the floor outside the door. I assumed it was just recently delivered. Rang the bell a couple more times, and still, nobody answered the dooor. Very strange.
Walked down the stairs, a bit more paranoid than before, and noticed the other tenants had their mail sitting outside their doors also. Okay, I thought, the mail was just delivered. I walked back to my car and called DT on my cell phone. Again, nobody answered and I got an answering machine. The place was obviously closed, or so I thought, so I decided to go to Lily's. It was packed.
I had a new girl (to me at least) who said her name was Candy, I believe. She looked like all the others, so I'll spare you the generic amp girl description. I sat on a chair in an alcove off the hallway until Candy was available. During that time, I talked with an older Mamasan, not the one I always see there. I told her I just came from DT, and that they were apparently closed today. She indicated a few of them were closed today, that's why it was so busy.
I couldn't help wonder what was going on, and couldn't wait to get home to read today's reports. Surprisingly, nobody has mentioned anything about DT.
Now I'm wondering if they were just really busy an DT and not answering the door or phone? Was anyone else there this afternoon and found them closed or was I just unfortunate to be there a little to late, when everyone else was busy?
Just wondering
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