Hi everyone,
I am a newbie here.
Just a question: Is that safe to visit the AMP in Manhattan?
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Hi everyone,
I am a newbie here.
Just a question: Is that safe to visit the AMP in Manhattan?
Is it safe? Have you read any reports? Scroll back, read the reviews from this year and you'll have enough info to make a decision for yourself. Seriously, I know you're brand new here, but take a few minutes to look around. If you still have questions I'm sure that most members, myself included, will be only too happy to help you.
There's no such thing as 100% safe; however the chances of "stuff" happening are low. If it does happen, stay calm. As Lucky said, read, read and read. Researching for information is important, knowledge is your best friend. More importantly, don't be too paranoid and use common sense. Be safe and have fun.
My previous experiences at this place were mediocre. The better AMP (with all of the amenities) which I previously raved about was closed for the Chinese New Year. Out of desparation, and hopeful for a better experience I returned to the corner of 3rd ave and East 16th (Ocean Spa) and asked for Kristy. She is a very attractive 30ish woman with a beautiful face, nice body, and great long hair. Kristy remembered me, but still tried to get away with a lazy massage. She started with the energy saving and time wasting techniques that we are all too familiar with. I reminded her that I wanted a strong hand massage and not the lazy forearm/elbow work. The massage was mediocre. Let me correct that. The massage sucked. Kristy then tried to engage me in flirtatious conversation while we both knew that the clock was ticking. I reminded her that I was there for a good massage, and not to flirt. I did this while putting my hands under her blouse and beginning to roam. She giggled and claimed to be tickleish. I gently but firmly undid her bra. I played with her breasts, and then sucked and blew on her nipples. She moaned (? acting job). I put her hand on my tool while continuing to suck/nibble/blow/pull on her nipples. She moaned like a gf while stroking 'mr happy'. When I came she was next to me with her beautiful hair all over me. HJ was much better than the massage. It was frustrating because Kristy knows that I am interested more in the massage than in the finale. I told her that I prefer the place on Park Row, and would not return here. I then offered to take her out for drinks some time. She asked me for my #, and said that she would call. She probably will, and I will keep you all apprised.Tip was $40....I maintain that Moon at e15th, and Cindy the freelancer are the best masseuses in the city. Kristy is much better looking and sexier.
[QUOTE=GrouchoMarx]My previous experiences at this place were mediocre. The better AMP (with all of the amenities) which I previously raved about was closed for the Chinese New Year. Out of desparation, and hopeful for a better experience I returned to the corner of 3rd ave and East 16th (Ocean Spa) and asked for Kristy. She is a very attractive 30ish woman with a beautiful face, nice body, and great long hair. Kristy remembered me, but still tried to get away with a lazy massage. She started with the energy saving and time wasting techniques that we are all too familiar with. I reminded her that I wanted a strong hand massage and not the lazy forearm/elbow work. The massage was mediocre. Let me correct that. The massage sucked. Kristy then tried to engage me in flirtatious conversation while we both knew that the clock was ticking. I reminded her that I was there for a good massage, and not to flirt. I did this while putting my hands under her blouse and beginning to roam. She giggled and claimed to be tickleish. I gently but firmly undid her bra. I played with her breasts, and then sucked and blew on her nipples. She moaned (? acting job). I put her hand on my tool while continuing to suck/nibble/blow/pull on her nipples. She moaned like a gf while stroking 'mr happy'. When I came she was next to me with her beautiful hair all over me. HJ was much better than the massage. It was frustrating because Kristy knows that I am interested more in the massage than in the finale. I told her that I prefer the place on Park Row, and would not return here. I then offered to take her out for drinks some time. She asked me for my #, and said that she would call. She probably will, and I will keep you all apprised.Tip was $40....I maintain that Moon at e15th, and Cindy the freelancer are the best masseuses in the city. Kristy is much better looking and sexier.[/QUOTE]Inspite of being a regular reader of the forum I did not remember the name Kristy when I went there. At least in my case the massage was great and total damage was only $45 for one full hour. So that was a good bargain.
Are the girls in Ocean Chinese, Korean or Jap?
They advertise on Massageplaces.com. The name is Blue Spa or something like that (on 38 bet bway and 6). I called them few times with an interval of 10 minutes and Sometimes it would ring and no one would answer and other time I would get a busy tone. So I just went there. When I reached there there was a big Police sign on the door. It was written in that that the placed was closed down for prostitution / unlicensed massage. Never stood just in front of something like this. The idea that I could have been in the place when raid happened gave me a little shiver. Well but it did not last long as I just headed to other place just a block away right after that.
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]Inspite of being a regular reader of the forum I did not remember the name Kristy when I went there. At least in my case the massage was great and total damage was only $45 for one full hour. So that was a good bargain.[/QUOTE]Hey Champak,
Some time ago the $45 introductory price was raised to $50. It is still possible to get the lower price with a coupon (found in some local papers). I have been to Ocean Spa 4 times, and have tried 3 different masseuses. My reviews can be found in earlier posts. The bases for my opinions are always given. Kelly was an insulting waste of time. Lulu has the social sense not to be insulting but is still a waste of time. She may improve with some experience. Kristy is ok if she likes you, and if all you really want is an expensive HJ. If you want a really good massage, I think you are better off elsewhere. If you insist on using this place make sure to keep the masseuse in check. When she tries to cut corners by overusing her elbows and forearms, or tries to replace real massage with light tickleing, you need to insist on a 'hand massage'. If she tries to waste time by talking/flirting with you then remind her that YOU ARE PAYING for a massage, and that you will be happy to flirt with her on HER time. If she continues to avoid working for her money, then tell Celia (the manager). Over the years I have become personally friendly with the staff, management, and owners of several of these places. I have cultivated friendships and have had sex with several of these ladies (outside of their workplace of course). These personal relationships have afforded me an insiders view of the goings on. Oh, if you were there on a Thursday, it was Kelly's day off. Enjoy!
I got there at 10:00 pm. Paid house fee. Started with shower/sauna. Had 'Elle' this time. She is 30ish attractive, and competent. Started with "foot work" (massaging shoulders, back, legs, feet, arms and hands with her feet). I felt like I was worked over by a good chiropractor. Then came the 'hand work'. Also very competent. She massaged my neck before she cracked it skillfully. Then came the scalp and face massage. Her fingers found muscles on the inner aspect of my thighs which I forgot I had. She massaged and put pressure on and around the pubic area and signaled the question: do i want a hj? The hj was good if a little mechanical. She permitted me to loosen her bra, and play with her breasts. I could see that although she allowed the roaming, she didnt want it done. I stopped cause it then became no fun for me. Elle successfully milked every last drop out, and cleaned me off in a perfunctory manner. In short she was ok in looks, very good in skills, but missing something intangible (soul, feeling). Damage report: $50 house, $40 masseuse, $10 good will tip to manager/towel boy. I will repeat. Each time I will try another masseuse and report back. For my money this place remains the best deal in town! Enjoy!!
Groucho, which great place in Chinatown? If you don't want to say it here, please send me a PM. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Lucky Guitar]Well, boys, earlier this month I was able to spend a couple of weeks in Thailand. You can see my report on the ISG under Bangkok massage parlors. All I can say is that most of the massage providers there have raised even the lowly handjob to a high art form. I don't think I'll ever look at the New York massage parlor scene the same way. Every once in awhile you find a diamond in the rough, but in Thailand it's hard not to. Customer service, the pleasure of the client is almost always first and foremost.
Every girl I talked to over there went through training, not only in massage but also in every aspect of the sensual side of things, too. The handjobs and blowjobs I received were the best I've ever had, consistently, from almost every provider.
I think that an AMP in this city based on that premise would do an amazing amount of business. Reasonable prices, no upselling, training in the sensual arts, tipping being left up to the client after the session—I always tip better under these circumstances than when I have to get up, fish around in my pocket for up-front money, and then receive an uninterested quick handjob. It doesn't have to be that way. Sure, not every guy will treat them fairly, but most will.
I think I'll be availing myself somewhat less of the city's offerings and use the savings to get back to Thailand often. Thanks for letting me vent.[/QUOTE]I lived in Asia for most of my life and have just moved to NYC. I know exactly what you are saying. Thailand is a paradise for men. I think providing good service is in their DNA. In contrast, I have been disappointed since being in NYC. First, there is the sticker shock compared with Asia. It's something that I will eventually get used to. Second, although I have been to only a handful of places, the establishments seemed run down with great variability in the service provided. There is none that i will return to.
But there is hope. I just discovered this site and with some research I hope to find a few good places. I will report back.
[QUOTE=GrouchoMarx]Hey Champak,
Some time ago the $45 introductory price was raised to $50. It is still possible to get the lower price with a coupon (found in some local papers). I have been to Ocean Spa 4 times, and have tried 3 different masseuses. My reviews can be found in earlier posts. The bases for my opinions are always given. Kelly was an insulting waste of time. Lulu has the social sense not to be insulting but is still a waste of time. She may improve with some experience. Kristy is ok if she likes you, and if all you really want is an expensive HJ. If you want a really good massage, I think you are better off elsewhere. If you insist on using this place make sure to keep the masseuse in check. When she tries to cut corners by overusing her elbows and forearms, or tries to replace real massage with light tickleing, you need to insist on a 'hand massage'. If she tries to waste time by talking/flirting with you then remind her that YOU ARE PAYING for a massage, and that you will be happy to flirt with her on HER time. If she continues to avoid working for her money, then tell Celia (the manager). Over the years I have become personally friendly with the staff, management, and owners of several of these places. I have cultivated friendships and have had sex with several of these ladies (outside of their workplace of course). These personal relationships have afforded me an insiders view of the goings on. Oh, if you were there on a Thursday, it was Kelly's day off. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Hi GrouchoMarx:
I really dont rmeber the day I went and I usually dont ask the name (which I believe that I should). I like the place you mentioned in China town - I have sent PM to you requesting info. Have you tried the place on 28th I mentioned about? I do not look for playing with tits and HJ (plus a very good massage). Even though the tits playing was limited other two were decent. I also try to be assertive with providers (nicely) and the places where I am a regular the mamsen would give me a little hand massage while waiting (if the wait could go for 10 minutes). Ocean is quite far from my workplace anyway. I dont mind going far but then the place should be much better. Enjoy.
Well, I must confess, I kind of ignored the intel I was provided in PM from fellow monger here during my short visit to NYC. Instead of Chinatown place, I opted for the short, easy stroll from my hotel to Metro Spa. It was just too easy and I didn't have much time, even though I knew I might strike out.
I was hooked up with BeeBee (or PeePee? something like that) and was happy to note that she was a happy, perky little gal. A little on the round side, but not unpleasantly so. A sign in the little room indicated there were no shenanigans permitted and she certainly was not dressed for "fun." The round open space at the head of the table (insert face before starting massage) further announced the legitimacy of the place. Still, I hoped my charm would win me a little something with her.
(house was .8, BTW)
Got a nice TS (attention to right areas, but not with seductiveness), then back to the room. Well, first off, let's say the girl gave a good massage. As I've found when RTFF, they mostly ARE PROS in your city. You can expect someone who's actually trained, unlike many states and cities. But I continued to flirt, despite the light towel covering my nether regions, and finally said I wanted a "soft" massage there.
Well, she responded very nicely. Then on the flip, she went to work on Mr. Happy, despite the "sign" staring us in the face. She would only allow me to experience her treasures outside her clothes, but she was still reasonably into it.
After she was done, she actually finished the massage (something else pretty unique to your city) and then a fairly nice goodbye. Never asked for extra $, but I gave her a .4 tip. She seemed very happy.
Would recommend. If you're sweet to this girl and gently encouraging, you'll get something. I know there are better deals in town, but it was close and that was enough for me.
I travel frequently to NYC for business and have been 3 times over the last couple of months to the AMP at Madison and 31st. This is a couple of blocks south of the 162 Mad address discussed in the other thread in this section. Not particularly cheap -- $80/$100 house for 30 minutes/hour (plus appropriate tip) -- but the facilities are nice and each experience has been Fully Satisfying, w/ young, thin, and attractive providers in their late 20s/early 30s.
Tonight I tried to buy a massage at what has to be the the worst place in the new world. This major dung heap is located at 27 Essex Street (downstairs). I can't begin to tell you how lousey this place was. The sights, the smells, and the sounds of the facilities were horrific. The same holds true for the masseuses. Mine was a youngish woman named 'Nancy'. At least that's what I think she said while I was looking the place over for signs of vermin. I always travel with my own towels so as to mitigate any lack of cleanliness at such places. My towels are soaking in bleach as we speak. I may decide to burn them instead. Nancy led me through this sanctum until we reached her space; the Sanctum Sanctorum. Here I quickly undressed and placed my bath sheets on her table. When I put my face thru the face hole the faint smell of mildew was evident. As the crappy massage continued the smell was rising in intensity. Nancy was massaging me while arguing loudly with the other masseuses. I told her that the arguing ruins the massage. It didnt help. My blood pressure was rising. Nancy conveniently lost her ability to understand such uncommon phrases as: strong massage, hand massage, no more back massage, please massage legs etc. This last request was responded to with a quick "you need extra one half hour." I replied that this first massage was a trial. That if I was not happy, I would not return. If she did a good job, then she made a new customer. She seemed to understand. Our time was nearly up. I told her that I would take another 30 minutes. While she was resetting the timer, I turned over and indicated that I wanted a HJ. She refused saying that her boss was there. I told her to forget the extra half hour. She walked away, and did not return. I dressed, packed my stuff, and handed the mamasan $40 ($38 house fee) along with the words "I am not happy." The mamasan looked at Nancy who had just been given an unspoken $2 tip and smiled. I repeated that I was not happy with the service. Nobody seemed to care. I generally have 2-3 massages weekly, and my usual tip is $40. Even the sh-t head girl at Ocean Spa got $30 from me. 27 Essex street sucks.