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[QUOTE=Whoopter]Actually, it is.
It is considered "unlawful genital contact in a public place"
Probably laws on the books to bust people boffing in their vehicles at the drive-in, but it is also being extended to include businesses in general.
Basically, anything other than a hotel room or a private residence is considered a "public place" under this statute.[/QUOTE]So I'll take it the back of my el camino is out of the question.
I am not sure under this "statute" if it is a public place. Technically it is on private property not public property.
Just like the time 10 years ago I got into a car accident in a parking lot. I didn't have insurance. The other driver had no insurance either.
I looked at the cop he said you are lucky I can't do anything because this is not a public parking lot. If not you can be cited for no insurance. But if you are in a Mall type environment owned by the city it is public, hence you can get cited for not having insurance for running a stop sign, etc.
[QUOTE=Whoopter]Actually, it is.
It is considered "unlawful genital contact in a public place"
Probably laws on the books to bust people boffing in their vehicles at the drive-in, but it is also being extended to include businesses in general.
Basically, anything other than a hotel room or a private residence is considered a "public place" under this statute.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Whoopter]Actually, it is.
It is considered "unlawful genital contact in a public place"
Probably laws on the books to bust people boffing in their vehicles at the drive-in, but it is also being extended to include businesses in general.
Basically, anything other than a hotel room or a private residence is considered a "public place" under this statute.[/QUOTE]
Ahhh, I remember the good old drive-in theaters and banging away in the back seat. There was no need for tinted windows, they would always fog up for me. Shoot, when I was like 15 I would borrow different friends' cars, one had a Camaro with that uncomfortable hump in the back. Man it was like going at it mish on a camel.
Whoopter, your handle is way too similar to another member who posts regularly here. You might want to change it so that there's no confusion. Jackson will transfer your posts over too. Just my suggestion...
-SS
Anyone hear of the rumor that OK is moving at the end of March, starting a new locatoin in April? If so, where is the new location?
Went yesterday just after they opened, 10am. Greeted by an older asian lady, knew I didn't want her, and asked for a latina. Paid .4 for hhr, led to a room, waited in the cold room a good 10 mins and in walks Perla. She's def not a looker! Maybe late 20's, saggy b-cups, got like 4 gold-rimmed teeth in the front. Overall appearance 4.5 Massage was better than average with lots of attention near the boys and several brush-ups against them. I spread my legs wide open for her once I felt she wasn't accidently brushing them. Never a towel and after the flip I was at full attention. No way was I gonna ask for fs, but why not a bj? She stated no way and said a hj was .6 We agreed on .4, I tried for .3 though. The chick made me pay her before the service, which I hate, and all I had was larger bills. I gave her .5 and asked for my change (hey, she wasn't a hottie!). It was mechanical - at best. She cleaned me with the towels in the rice cooker, but it wasn't turned on yet. They were freezing! She walks out and I get dressed and I'm waiting for her to return with my change. Finally, she comes back and I was fully relieved (relieved X 2).
Would not recommend her based on looks alone, but one of the better massages I've had in a long while and she's someone who provides extras.
-SS
So it would be illegal to have sex in a dorm room, RV, tent, or boat? I know an attorney who has represented massage parlor owners and he knows of no such California state law.
He told me that the California Supreme Court has ruled that “a closed room made available to different members of the public at successive intervals is not a place considered open to the public” under state vice laws. The case was Prior v. the City of LA. It seems to me that this would fit the massage parlour situtation.
He didn’t say that prostitution would be legal in a AMP, he just said that unpaid sex would not be illegal under California law.
I Googled “unlawful genital contact in a public place” and didn’t find much of anything.
I guess there could be some city ordiances that might specifically apply to MPs. But again, the likihood of you being caught with your dick in a provider is a million to one.
I don’t pretend to be a lawyer or have any special knowledge of law. If you can give a code section or a case reference I'll take it to him. He’s been helpful in the past – probably assumes that I might need him some day.
[QUOTE=Whoopter]Actually, it is.
It is considered "unlawful genital contact in a public place"
Basically, anything other than a hotel room or a private residence is considered a "public place" under this statute.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jon Jones]So it would be illegal to have sex in a dorm room, RV, tent, or boat? I know an attorney who has represented massage parlor owners and he knows of no such California state law.
He told me that the California Supreme Court has ruled that “a closed room made available to different members of the public at successive intervals is not a place considered open to the public” under state vice laws. The case was Prior v. the City of LA. It seems to me that this would fit the massage parlour situtation.
He didn’t say that prostitution would be legal in a AMP, he just said that unpaid sex would not be illegal under California law.
I Googled “unlawful genital contact in a public place” and didn’t find much of anything.
I guess there could be some city ordiances that might specifically apply to MPs. But again, the likihood of you being caught with your dick in a provider is a million to one.
I don’t pretend to be a lawyer or have any special knowledge of law. If you can give a code section or a case reference I'll take it to him. He’s been helpful in the past – probably assumes that I might need him some day.[/QUOTE]
The guys are looking out for each other and offering informed advice.
I wonder why they didn't include an IRS agent in the raids. When they found the $700,000 cash in the bank, I'm sure it somehow escaped taxes. I also wonder if this cloud on amps has hurt business. I know more than a few guys are staying away from amps until this blows over.
[QUOTE=Mphound]The guys are looking out for each other and offering informed advice.
I wonder why they didn't include an IRS agent in the raids. When they found the $700,000 cash in the bank, I'm sure it somehow escaped taxes. I also wonder if this cloud on amps has hurt business. I know more than a few guys are staying away from amps until this blows over.[/QUOTE]I wonder if this will make some of the AMPS discount services! ha ha!
[QUOTE=Sirmister]I wonder if this will make some of the AMPS discount services! ha ha![/QUOTE]Like everything else, pussy also follows the most basic law of economics, price=supply vs. demand. If there's less demand for their services, they will need to lower their price and/or wait until several AMPs go out of business (lowering supply) to bring their prices back up.
That's why you can goto the Red Light District in Amsterdam where prostitution is legal, pick a girl sitting like a mannequin at a store's window-front that looks like Carmen Electra or Pam Anderson did 10 years ago, and fuck them in the back of the store for the equivalent of $40 U.S. Dollars. If they don't charge that price, then nobody will fuck them because there's dozens of others just as hot at other storefronts on the same adjacent streets.
[QUOTE=Oc Amper]Anyone hear of the rumor that OK is moving at the end of March, starting a new locatoin in April? If so, where is the new location?[/QUOTE]Huh? It is the end of March. This is something we will need to know pronto!
[QUOTE=Whoopter]Actually, it is.
It is considered "unlawful genital contact in a public place"
Probably laws on the books to bust people boffing in their vehicles at the drive-in, but it is also being extended to include businesses in general.
Basically, anything other than a hotel room or a private residence is considered a "public place" under this statute.[/QUOTE]
You sound like LE. Why is your handle so close to mine? You're freakin' me out
Whoopster
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Date: 2007-03-23, 9:16AM PDT
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Locations of suspected brothels
Authorities arrested six people last week and said they were involved in operating illegal brothels in at least 10 acupuncture clinics or massage parlors. Alleged ringleader Jian Shi, 49, of Montebello, owned or operated these alleged brothels at one time or another during the last three years, prosecutors said Thursday:
G & G Acupuncture Office, 1085 N. Harbor Blvd., #205, Anaheim
Guo's Acupuncture Therapy Clinic, 1834 W. Lincoln Ave., suite I, Anaheim
Guo's Acupuncture Therapy Clinic, 1834 W. Lincoln Ave., suite O, Anaheim
Luo Luo's Acupuncture Therapy Clinic, 710 S. Brookhurst St., suite F, Anaheim
SM Acupuncture Clinic, 215 N. State College Blvd, suite D, Anaheim
WF Acupuncture Clinic, 1737 W, Romneya Dr., Anaheim
Healing Therapy Massage, 34213 Pacific Coast Highway, suite E, Dana Point
Eastern Acupuncture Therapy Clinic, 638 W. Collins Ave., Orange
Magic Touch Body Care Center, 42480 Bob Hope Drive, Rancho Mirage
Thursday, March 22, 2007
Prostitution crackdown targeted clinics, parlors
Businesses were actually fronts for prostitution where hookers were recruited from China and customers recruited by ads.
By LARRY WELBORN and COURTNEY BACALSO
The Orange County Register
The signs on the outside said acupuncture clinics.
But on the inside, police investigators found no medical or acupuncture equipment of any kind. Instead, prosecutors said Thursday, the establishments near residential communities in Anaheim, Orange, Tustin and Dana Point were fronts for prostitution where hookers recruited from China serviced "johns" recruited by ads in local newspapers for $80 per sexual favor.
Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas said state and federal police arrested five leaders of what he called the largest pimping conspiracy taken down in Orange County. A sixth man was arrested on misdemeanor charges.
"These brothels were located in medical plazas near family dentists and practitioners where children could be walking by while dozens of men were going in and out looking for prostitutes," Rackauckas said.
WF Acupuncture Clinic, a suspected brothel on Romneya Drive in Anaheim, is in the same building with a pediatrician and a diabetes care clinic and across the street from a 120-unit family apartment complex.
"I'm just shocked," said Maria Munoz, whose husband's pediatrics office is in the same plaza. "And to think we have parents who bring their children here."
Gina Morgan, who works at a chiropractic office next door to Guo's Acupuncture Therapy Clinic on Lincoln Boulevard in Anaheim, said she wasn't surprised when police raided the clinic on March 16. "The types of guys who went in there looked like scumbags," she said
Morgan said police arrested a woman and removed bags items, such as a "hula hoop-like device."
The simultaneous raids at several houses and clinics came after a three-year investigation by the Orange and Anaheim police departments, the District Attorney's Office and agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
U.S. special agent William J. Hayes said ICE joined the investigation in 2005 because of concerns Chinese women were being brought into the United States and forced into prostitution. But he said investigators determined the women were willing participants.
Deputy District Attorney Scott Steiner, who will be the trial prosecutor, said about a dozen suspected prostitutes were arrested during the investigation.
Authorities also served search warrants on several homes and clinics on Monday, and put legal holds on more than $700,000 in bank accounts of some of the alleged ringleaders, said Anaheim Capt. Joe Reiss.
Rackauckas identified Jian Shi, 49, of Montebello, as the kingpin of the group who "instructed the others … how to run the criminal operation under the table."
Shi used his credit cards to buy large quantities of lotion and plastic food wrap, which the prostitutes used instead of condoms, Rackauckas said.
Arrested and charged with conspiracy and pimping with Shi were Guo Hua Chen, 56, of Monterey Park; Hung Jun Bai, 42, of Rowland Heights; John Edward Couch, 46; and Couch's wife, Yu-Mei Cheng-Couch, 38, both of San Clemente. John Couch is also charged with being a felon with a firearm. They each face six-year prison terms if convicted.
They are scheduled to be arraigned in the North Justice Center on April 6. Shi, Chen and Bai are being held in the Orange County Jail without bail on immigration holds.
Customers were attracted to the alleged brothels by ads offering "Young Chinese Ladies" and "Beautiful Girls" in The Orange County Register and Orange County Weekly, Rackauckas said. "I would urge newspapers to take a look and maybe re-examine their advertising policy."
The Register accepts ads from legitimate businesses, including acupuncture clinics and massage parlors, said Debbie Holzkamp, senior vice president in charge of sales and marketing. A business must provide a current license before an ad is accepted, she add
2945 w ball has an accu place I saw. Out side I saw one of the girls going in which is what caught my eye. She was way hot. She was also looking around all over the place. She saw me looking and she pretended to go somewhere else then walked into the accu place. Theres a big sign on the front that says feet and accu. Then I noticed, since Im slow, a big glowing neow sign that said massage. I whip out my handy car size phone book and look them up. There was no phone number on the window. I find it and call. Same thing as others, 40-60hr. I didnt have time to try it yet. When I left another girl came out, I assume its the girl that answers the phone, she was way hot too.
My buddy went to 3008a. Its in the paper. He said forget that place, old ladies that dont know how to do a massage.
Also has anyone tried this cheap outfit?
$35 for a 50 minute massage
$25 for a 25 minute massage
*Massage Prices are for new clients only
Shiatsu Massage
Deep Tissue Massage
Reflexology
Thai Massage
Acupressure
Swedish Massage
We are centrally located at:
1107 E. Chapman Ave. #100
Orange, CA 92866
Hours:
Monday–Wednesday–Friday: 7:30 am – 12:00 pm & 2:00 pm – 6:00 pm
Saturday: 8:00 am – 12:00 pm
Appointments necessary for Massages.
Call (714) 633-1913 and make your appointment with Kealani.
*Please mention this ad when booking appointment
I drove out there yesterday, it's a legit chiro office and the dr. Is a dick. I couldn't even get to see kelani. I guess I should've called first, but still. [QUOTE=Cash Value]2945 w ball has an accu place I saw. Out side I saw one of the girls going in which is what caught my eye. She was way hot. She was also looking around all over the place. She saw me looking and she pretended to go somewhere else then walked into the accu place. Theres a big sign on the front that says feet and accu. Then I noticed, since I'm slow, a big glowing neow sign that said massage. I whip out my handy car size phone book and look them up. There was no phone number on the window. I find it and call. Same thing as others, 40-60hr. I didn't have time to try it yet. When I left another girl came out, I assume its the girl that answers the phone, she was way hot too.
My buddy went to 3008a. Its in the paper. He said forget that place, old ladies that don't know how to do a massage.
Also has anyone tried this cheap outfit?
$35 for a 50 minute massage
$25 for a 25 minute massage
*Massage Prices are for new clients only
Shiatsu Massage
Deep Tissue Massage
Reflexology
Thai Massage
Acupressure
Swedish Massage
We are centrally located at:
1107 E. Chapman Ave. #100
Orange, CA 92866
Hours:
Monday–Wednesday–Friday: 7:30 am – 12:00 pm & 2:00 pm – 6:00 pm
Saturday: 8:00 am – 12:00 pm
Appointments necessary for Massages.
Call (714) 633-1913 and make your appointment with Kealani.
*Please mention this ad when booking appointment[/QUOTE]
I paid my first visit there, i had koko, very friendly with nice personality and huge boobs :)
.5 in the door for hh and 1.2 for the service, not sure if i am going back anytime soon, she had blood down there, other than that it was one good fuck.