Non Pro's

I jumped back on SA and after a few weeks of not much the responses have been flooding in, I was going to see who I was going to go for and give intel on the rest however 2 previous ones have come back in my life, just randomly, one by chance we ran into each other on SA, the other was another way, but here are some leads for you guys.

Jazmynlovexx doesn't have a place to meet, we were talking and negotiating we were talking about 300 per meet, she didn't say outright she would do BBFS but she did say she is open to about anything once we know each other better, she indicated she might be looking for more than something casual and I took it that as this could be a way for her to find a well off BF, as cute as she is if I had that option I might have gone for it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/51e40096-a0bc-4657-9518-c1ccfba67460[/URL]

Mysterybaby1430 exchanged some messages and text, open to BB, she was the backup to the backup to the backup plan.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/63e2f634-8c49-4407-8aa9-797663fdcd4f[/URL]

MaeRosee she started at 350 and I didn't respond after that, I thought we exchanged some text where she said BB was fine but can't find them right now.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9242d0b5-ac3b-4f45-9d74-2f609762fe54[/URL]

Queenseren she was open to meet and told me she had a hotel room and we could meet, she was fine with BB she started her price at I think 300 for a few hours time, didn't end up meeting her as had another that I met for 200 that pretty good.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/78ed1948-a138-44bd-b4c7-2f1bf5e528e0[/URL]

Kay Q I wasn't really interested in her, just happened to look at her profile and we talked back and forth and some text, her opening offer was 400? But never tried to get her lower as just didn't really care and wasn't going to meet her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5688c303-7713-4965-b2e6-c9936cd6873e[/URL]

Mikkie_x she opened at 500 and I didn't respond. She looks good and was willing to do BB.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/df58e02f-9e37-4c26-a131-757f9455c519[/URL]

Izzybabiii she is pretty cute she was in the 200's for meeting but not BB as she doesn't take birth control and her cycle is not consistent, she is also not really one to get into sex, there is something going on there, but if you are looking to stick your dick into a young cute girl she could be the one. I would like to see her again just to see if I could get her to open up more.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/046ae1c2-964d-4d7b-82a5-cf9b5fca214f[/URL]

There are more that I will have info on it just depends how things work out with current ones I am seeing.

In addition to what I mentioned before I have had yet another girl from SA contact me, the concern is that she has moved less than 10 miles from me and she frequents several of the same stores as I do, she wants to start up again but I have tried to keep at least 20+ miles between me an any girl to reduce issues of accidental meetings, I feel she is wanting to start up as her marriage is probably ending but damn she has a great body.

Then there is another who is 15 miles from me and we are supposed to meet this weekend, she is down to do anything for 150 per meet and also has a cute tiny body, problem is she actually works at a place I go to, but she doesn't realize that.

Then there is another that contacted me that I have decided not to meet, she had confused me with the guy that she started seeing after me, she was trying to reach him to see about a DNA test as the last guy she was seeing from SA ended up getting her pregnant, she had hoped it was her BF's that she was screwing at the same time, but I know basic genetics and it cannot be his, the kid is very cute looking from the pictures she sent me.

I guess the question I have is how close is too close for your comfort? I fear the little head is taking control here and could get me in trouble.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5065784]

Izzybabiii she is pretty cute she was in the 200's for meeting but not BB as she doesn't take birth control and her cycle is not consistent, she is also not really one to get into sex, there is something going on there, but if you are looking to stick your dick into a young cute girl she could be the one. I would like to see her again just to see if I could get her to open up more.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/046ae1c2-964d-4d7b-82a5-cf9b5fca214f[/URL][/QUOTE]Izzybabii was discussed in this post. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10145-Non-Pro-s&p=5052045&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5052045.

[QUOTE=Twister100;5065800]Izzybabii was discussed in this post. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10145-Non-Pro-s&p=5052045&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5052045.[/QUOTE]I thought I had mentioned her before, given a text I rec'd from yet another SA girl she is now off my list.

Hey all, new to the hobby and would love some advice in setting up the SA profile. Is it wise to use photos of my face? Once I have established contact should I immediately suggest we move the conversation to another platform? Thanks in advance for any helpful advice. Please feel free to offer any other advice that has been successful for you. Once I get some contacts going I will hopefully be able to provide information to our community.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5065797]In addition to what I mentioned before I have had yet another girl from SA contact me, the concern is that she has moved less than 10 miles from me and she frequents several of the same stores as I do, she wants to start up again but I have tried to keep at least 20+ miles between me an any girl to reduce issues of accidental meetings, I feel she is wanting to start up as her marriage is probably ending but damn she has a great body.

Then there is another who is 15 miles from me and we are supposed to meet this weekend, she is down to do anything for 150 per meet and also has a cute tiny body, problem is she actually works at a place I go to, but she doesn't realize that.

Then there is another that contacted me that I have decided not to meet, she had confused me with the guy that she started seeing after me, she was trying to reach him to see about a DNA test as the last guy she was seeing from SA ended up getting her pregnant, she had hoped it was her BF's that she was screwing at the same time, but I know basic genetics and it cannot be his, the kid is very cute looking from the pictures she sent me.

I guess the question I have is how close is too close for your comfort? I fear the little head is taking control here and could get me in trouble.[/QUOTE]I used to worry about the same thing, but when I thought about it I realized the 99% of the time I am out and about I'm by myself. Most of my close friends don't live real close and I don't spend a lot of time in public with my sugar babies, so I don't worry about that too much. I did have a close call once, was having a drink with a sugar baby and ran into an old work acquaintance, but was able to play it off and it wasn't like it was a close friend. That happened probably 30 miles from where I live. I did run into a girl that I was seeing in Home Depot near my house, she was early 20's, and she was with her dad (who was probably younger than me). She saw me and winked at me as she walked past. We had a date already set up for a couple of days later and laughed about it, but it seemed to turn her on that we had seen each other at the store. Took her ass for the first time that date.

So to answer your question, I don't worry too much about it.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;5065433]Defiantly an improvement since before I got banned from there (still haven't figured out a way to work around it) 95% of all the women wanted thousands of dollars per meet up and online only junk. I'd go back but the ban thing. I believe I got banned discussing money amounts inside E-mails to these women and they would get insulted at $300 per meet up and report when they expect thousands and new cars, trips to the moon, a swimming pool of only fresh Crisp $100 bills every morning.[/QUOTE]Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt. If there is too much back and forth I just leave her a message that I don't think we are a good fit and ban her ass. That has worked pretty well for me. I actually have 2-3 different canned opening statements that are to the point but do not give any direct details. Just imply that I am not going to take them shopping or wine or dine them. That sets the stage. A lot of them ignore this initial messge. The ones that make it past this phase. Almost all convert over to texting knowing that I am only there to fuck for money. I have no interest in doing the shit they would expect their husbands or boyfrineds to. Sorry you got banned. I am sure you have tried the onion browser (TOR) or a VPN. Neither of those allowed you to create another profile?

[QUOTE=SaltyMeat;5066453]Hey all, new to the hobby and would love some advice in setting up the SA profile. Is it wise to use photos of my face? Once I have established contact should I immediately suggest we move the conversation to another platform? Thanks in advance for any helpful advice. Please feel free to offer any other advice that has been successful for you. Once I get some contacts going I will hopefully be able to provide information to our community.[/QUOTE]The photos I use include my face, but they are mostly whole upper body shots with the face not being the focus. Unlike actual escorts, some of these women wouldn't fuck every dude who reaches out to them. In common parlance, you got to work them. I would recommend putting a decently detailed Bio and "What you are looking for". Hint at wanting sex, but try to come of classy and don't mention PPM.

A lot of the really good girls don't like to do just 1 date. So if you bring up PPM in the conversation they may stop responding. I try to keep it respectful and spin a story about long term crap. If it is any consolation if the sex is good, you can keep them around for a few months which is long term. Make sure not to tell each girl about the other girls you are seeing. There was a time I was seeing three girls simultaneously and barebacking all of them in every hole before the pandemic. Right now I am working at least 5 of them and expect to bed three of them next week. Takes some effort. Make sure to be a gentleman in your conversation. Reserve the dirty talk and the nasty stuff for once you get them into a bed.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5067417]Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt. If there is too much back and forth I just leave her a message that I don't think we are a good fit and ban her ass. That has worked pretty well for me. I actually have 2-3 different canned opening statements that are to the point but do not give any direct details. Just imply that I am not going to take them shopping or wine or dine them. That sets the stage. A lot of them ignore this initial messge. The ones that make it past this phase. Almost all convert over to texting knowing that I am only there to fuck for money. I have no interest in doing the shit they would expect their husbands or boyfrineds to. Sorry you got banned. I am sure you have tried the onion browser (TOR) or a VPN. Neither of those allowed you to create another profile?[/QUOTE]TOR or a VPN don't always work to get back on SA. I have moved on to SB and it works fine.

Yes, you need to get them over to text before you actually start negotiating, especially on SA. My usual approach is to let them talk about their problems and what and why they need money for, both because it makes me seem sympathetic and because its lets me gauge how deep a hole they are in. If they sound too generic or the hole sounds too deep or too weird I usually bail at that point. Otherwise I put an offer on the table, as it were.

I usually prefer to meet them face-to-face someplace public (e. G. Starbuck's) for a short meet-and-greet before getting to the sticky stuff. That lets me screen out ones that are too weird or too unlike their pictures (I met two who appeared pleasantly thick on their profile but were in fact enormously obese -- one at a half-dozen pastries in the fifteen minutes we met before I could escape). Usually about two thirds convert.

For me, repeatedly emphasizing that you are extremely busy (that is the truth) and have very little spare time also is an effective screen. That lets me keep the initial M&Gs very short (fifteen minutes unless I decide I am *very* interested). Once I've kind of scoped out the girl and patiently listened to her troubles I usually just lay it out there:

Me: Okay, it sounds like I can help you out.

Her: Yes!

Me: So I am staying at the Hilton Garden Inn in _XXXXX_ tonight. You can come by this evening and we can spend some private time together and get acquainted. I think $X00 is fair, although if you want to spend more time together a higher number is acceptable.

Her: Sounds good! What time?

Me: 8 pm is fine.

Depending on the girl and what conversations have gone on before I might get a lot more explicit. Especially if the girl is older and has been on SB for a while I am a lot more likely to be very explicit.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5067417]Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt. If there is too much back and forth I just leave her a message that I don't think we are a good fit and ban her ass. That has worked pretty well for me. I actually have 2-3 different canned opening statements that are to the point but do not give any direct details. Just imply that I am not going to take them shopping or wine or dine them. That sets the stage. A lot of them ignore this initial messge. The ones that make it past this phase. Almost all convert over to texting knowing that I am only there to fuck for money. I have no interest in doing the shit they would expect their husbands or boyfrineds to. Sorry you got banned. I am sure you have tried the onion browser (TOR) or a VPN. Neither of those allowed you to create another profile?[/QUOTE]The Site has gotten clever, I have hidden my VPN but you cannot change it to another country the site auto blocks you. I made a virtual Credit card where you can put any name and address you want on it, and made new e-mail addresses, the only thing I have not done is change my phone number which I think is the last part of the puzzle. For a site that charges $90 they are really hardcore on this crap.

Hey guys. No longer on sa but this girl keeps texting me (I assume off sa or maybe a previous escort). I only have the phone number and she has sent a few photos and a video clip but I don't know if she's legit. Unsure the best way to ask for intel so apologies if I over share details.

Her number is 206*6352.

[QUOTE=Pooner05;5068330]Hey guys. No longer on sa but this girl keeps texting me (I assume off sa or maybe a previous escort). I only have the phone number and she has sent a few photos and a video clip but I don't know if she's legit. Unsure the best way to ask for intel so apologies if I over share details.

Her number is 206*6352.[/QUOTE]Yes. She's also texting me wanting to meet right away. She's not legit, but I've been playing along. Yesterday, I told her let's meet some place and go to a hotel. She couldn't give me her approximate location and then eventually said that she'd rather just drive out to see me. She also sent me photos of two obviously different people. I'll keep on her and let you know if something happens. If she is legit (I doubt it), the pictures of girls that she is texting me are really cute.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;5067997]The Site has gotten clever, I have hidden my VPN but you cannot change it to another country the site auto blocks you. I made a virtual Credit card where you can put any name and address you want on it, and made new e-mail addresses, the only thing I have not done is change my phone number which I think is the last part of the puzzle. For a site that charges $90 they are really hardcore on this crap[/QUOTE]I have tried using the grocery store prepaid MasterCards and Visas, but they did not work for me. Apparently, SA uses a foreign payment processor. Can you tell us how to create a virtual card? Which website do you use?

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5068406]Yes. She's also texting me wanting to meet right away. She's not legit, but I've been playing along. Yesterday, I told her let's meet some place and go to a hotel. She couldn't give me her approximate location and then eventually said that she'd rather just drive out to see me. She also sent me photos of two obviously different people. I'll keep on her and let you know if something happens. If she is legit (I doubt it), the pictures of girls that she is texting me are really cute.[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree the girls hot. Seems super fake and aggro but part of me wishes it's real LOL.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5067417]Yeah I actually stay away from discussing any monetary arrangements until I get them on txt. [/QUOTE]I try to not even do that. For most of my past arrangements, I try to meet the person first. I am a bit older, so I don't need to play right away, I can wait a day or two to arrange a proper play date after the meet-and-greet. 1. That way, I can see that the person is someone that I would actually want a play date with. And 2. There is no paper or electronic trail of me offering anything.

The exception is if the lady in question initiates the monetary conversation, then I will carry on, but even then try to stay away from what I want to do during a play date, much less even negotiations around BB anything.

The meet-and-greet, if it goes well, and we seem to dig each other, will usually end with me saying, "Well, this is great, and I would love to see you again in a more intimate setting. What are you looking for from a transactional arrangement?" That's when we get into the discussion on dollars and hosting arrangements. Just seem simpler and cleaner that way.

I learned the hard way to try to do a meet-and-greet first to see about mutual attraction. One of my first encounter in the SB world had good looking pictures, but artistically shot. When she walked into my hotel room, yes, it's the same woman, but who ever said the cameral ADDED 10 pounds lied. Her camera SUBTRACTED at least 30 pounds. But she was there, so I completed the deed. Her sob story convinced me to give her a more than generous allowance for the meet. But after that, I try to meet every SB personally before the play date.

There are other exceptions, like when I would meet someone while on business travel. In those cases, some of the details will need to be hammered out beforehand. But even then, we would meet either for drinks or dinner before play. That way, either party could back out, and worst case, she gets a nice meal out of the M&G.