Escort Reports

One thing that I know works from experience are those chat lines you see advertised on TV. Call one up (most give a free trial for guys 30-60minutes) at the beginning of the month and you ma get extremely lucky as I have a few times. There's always hookers on there looking for "Generous" males, but sometimes there's downright hot young girls that are late on their rent and desperate for money. Personally know of someone who had two girls in their late teens / early 20's for several hours for around $150. Best deal I've ever seen. Most want you to come there, but a few will come to your house if you live in the city.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1093044]The raid of "E" on 10-27-10 caused them to remove information from their review form. They removed the boxes in the upper right hand corner that were checked off to show FS or not, CBJ or BBBJ, DATY or not, etc. Today all text has been removed from the body of the review. So what is left are the boxes on the left side about the girl's appearance, whether her photo and profile are accurate, the presence of tattoos, etc. The redacted form of review now on 'E' is basically worthless. It looks like all the old reviews have been similarly redacted.[/QUOTE]Well, I missed the latest changes until you pointed them out, so thanks for noticing and getting this discussion going. Having watched E deteriorate by one deleterious change after another since the famous raid, I have to agree with you, the site seems on the way out.

I also agree with FF, we will go where the listings are, so in that sense the providers call the shots. Certainly, that's why I wound up posting practically all my revews on the E. 90% of the real escorts around here were listed there. It has been the local "cluster".

However, it's not a one-way street, the ladies are going to use the vehicle which generates the best business. It is the eBay or Amazon effect, one site is going to become the successful business nexus. So I see a potential opportunity to influence events. Looking at the sites which are focused on reviews and / or vouches (in the best case, for both clients and ladies) , I would guess the two strongest candidates would that indypendent group from the east, or else invaders potentially vaulting in from the north.

Personally, I don't like the indy format (cumbersome and clique-ish) so I therefore nominate HoW to form a committee of one to flog his favorite hobby horse. Probably we need to discuss by Email, but if we can agree on a site and get the ladies we know to post there, we have a chance to steer things in the direction we want.

Of course, our USA board, which is already the only local discussion board which is active and useful, also stands to benefit, but I always thought sites like E complemented this site, which is primarily a forum for open discussion.

What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1093177]Hey Guys,

I am visiting Indy for the next week and am looking for something very specific that I couldn't find by reading the forum. I'd like to spend time with an escort with an incall location in the Indy area who is blonde and has unshaved blonde pussy hair. Not easy to find as for some unfathomable reason American girls like to shave. If any of you has any leads I would appreciate it!

Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]Maybe you should find an Asian with Bush and buy a bleach kit at the drug store. Just kidding. Might be fun though.

[QUOTE=Johnny Z; 1093538]Well, I missed the latest changes until you pointed them out, so thanks for noticing and getting this discussion going. Having watched E deteriorate by one deleterious change after another since the famous raid, I have to agree with you, the site seems on the way out.

I also agree with FF, we will go where the listings are, so in that sense the providers call the shots. Certainly, that's why I wound up posting practically all my revews on the E. 90% of the real escorts around here were listed there. It has been the local "cluster".

However, it's not a one-way street, the ladies are going to use the vehicle which generates the best business. It is the eBay or Amazon effect, one site is going to become the successful business nexus. So I see a potential opportunity to influence events. Looking at the sites which are focused on reviews and / or vouches (in the best case, for both clients and ladies) , I would guess the two strongest candidates would that indypendent group from the east, or else invaders potentially vaulting in from the north.

Personally, I don't like the indy format (cumbersome and clique-ish) so I therefore nominate HoW to form a committee of one to flog his favorite hobby horse. Probably we need to discuss by Email, but if we can agree on a site and get the ladies we know to post there, we have a chance to steer things in the direction we want.

Of course, our USA board, which is already the only local discussion board which is active and useful, also stands to benefit, but I always thought sites like E complemented this site, which is primarily a forum for open discussion.

What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]Thanks John, yes I've been using the EV site quite a bit for my travels to Michigan and Cleveland. P411 and D / C are still great sources for advertising AND verification. The EV and I's boards also have some verifications processes, and posting like USA, and discussions like USA, etc. Not so much on photos unless you get into the private rooms and get to see some real photos. (Usually photos taken by hobbyists, not professionally doctored ones.)

This site promotes discussions of things not really discussed or allowed on other sites, and also restricts some discussions that are common on the others. So like you said Johnny, this site complements others.

I'll send out an email to those of you we regularly contact and let you know more about my personal favorite. Johnny, you and Scup can expound more on the one from the east.

I've have always been a lurker and occasional sniper here-going back to before the name change, in fact-largely because my hobbying is sporadic and I've mostly seen well-established providers everyone here already knows. Today I have something to add.

Daydreamer21 at esdotcom. She joined about four months ago. Her profile turned up second or third on my speed searches, but she was never reviewed. No pics save a grainy headshot, no interview, no menu (back in the day!) , no contact except their PM. She checked in regularly, though. So of course you wonder what's up, why no one's taken one for the team; is she a flake or fake or worse.

She put up a new pic a couple weeks ago, and I took the opportunity to ask her why she never got reviewed. (A lot of times this gets your Aunt Leona, or whoever, to put up a couple quick fake reviews. Instead she wrote me that "I haven't had any experience yet!") We messaged a bit; I was leaning toward her being legit, even though that surprised me. She said she'd be willing to meet, and I had to lecture her on getting and checking references. I asked her for her menu, and she asked me what a menu was.

Was convinced, finally, to take a shot. Her first. Got her to see me this AM, but she's generally available evenings and weekend daytimes, for outcall. Twenty-six. 5'3", blonde hair to shoulders, cute, young-mom-next-door, with one of those faces that's different depending on where you're looking at it from. Beautiful hazel eyes. Soft lips. We met for coffee first but she was ready to leave right away, and was no more nervous than I. We did some bed dancing. She's got the moves of a snake. Divested her of her underwear and left the dress on. Very nice body, wonderful B cups and smallish but well-formed ass. We were both turned on."Do you want to talk about what you'd like to do, or shall we just continue?" "Continue". Twice around the globe. She's soft-spoken, sweet, into pleasing. The trip to France is unrestricted but not a final destination, and an island excursion is YMMV. No let-up for two hours. Multiple cups. Had to explain to her what that meant.

Best first visit I've ever had with anyone, from a raw recruit. I got an introductory deal, but as worth $$.5 as anyone in town I've seen. You know the cliche about keeping her to myself? I'd keep her to myself. Since I can't, *bring her along right, boys. Contact through edotcom for now; she's got a new gmail account by I don't have the exact addy.

Oh, and. Freckles.

[QUOTE=Alwaysready30;1093501]One thing that I know works from experience are those chat lines you see advertised on TV. Call one up (most give a free trial for guys 30-60minutes) at the beginning of the month and you ma get extremely lucky as I have a few times. There's always hookers on there looking for "Generous" males, but sometimes there's downright hot young girls that are late on their rent and desperate for money. Personally know of someone who had two girls in their late teens / early 20's for several hours for around $150. Best deal I've ever seen. Most want you to come there, but a few will come to your house if you live in the city.[/QUOTE]Yeah you can find hookers on those chat lines, but with no way to verify anything you are setting yourself up for some major scams. I've tried the lines 3 different times, first time iI did recieve a CBJ by a woman that was apperantly tweaking from the crack she just smoked, the second was probly the nastiest woman I had ever seen, so iI pretended I thought a friend of mine still lives here and I bolted, and finally the third. This is why I no longer use those scam lines. I met up with what I thought was way to good to be true. This girl was an 8 easy, smokin hot turns out it was to good to be true. She led me into her bedroom told me to get comfortable collected my money then she was going to let the dog out. One minute later 2 guys with guns asked me what I was doing in thier house that there was no woman that lived there. It was pretty clear the 3 were working together but I decided not stick around and argue with them so I left. My suggestion is stick with this forum, do some research there are many good leads on here by senior members that have paved the way for me to even concider myself a monger. Or just stick with the lines and maybe some tranny can give you a BJ

[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel;1093614]TP411 and D / C are still great sources for advertising AND verification. The EV and I's boards also have some verifications processes, and posting like USA, and discussions like USA, etc.[/QUOTE]I moved here from Denver about 4 years ago, and was surprised by the lack of useful sites here. T3R and P411 were the most useful of the "national" sites that I had used in Denver, but T3R seems to be minimal for this area. P411 has still remained reliable for me here, and it seems to have grown in the number of folks with ads over the last few years. When I first got here, there were generally less than 20 ladies; now there are about three times that. The information is useful and has been accurate each time I have relied upon it. The verification system also appears functional, and it appears that the ladies rely upon it as well. You can still use E to find interesting profiles and then check to see if the individual is on either T3R or P411 for more in depth information. I have never visited someone from E that I could not verify on either T3R or P411, and my disappointments have been few.

Z

It looks like we're back to the Pre-E. Com days, when two sites were necessary to see good provider ads as well as a good review site. E. Com tried to make for a one-stop-shopping site, and it did well for some time. I agree with the previous poster that said another site and TBD have always been good for reviews and will continue to be. Also of course, there is a lot of such info on this site. Eros, BP, and E. Com can be used for the shopping, while the review sites can be used for the consumer reports portion of the shopping experience. I will miss the "old days" (last week) of E. Com, but multitasking windows will continue to allow for the same results.

Thought he posted daydreamer's email yesterday by, well, posting it instead of elling-spay it out-hay: bholiday53 can be reached at the gmail.

[QUOTE=Marque;1094138]It looks like we're back to the Pre-E. Com days...[/QUOTE]Since the change I've been contacted twice by other (established) hobbyists seeking further info on a review of mine-something which had happened only once or twice in all previous years-and I've written an advertiser who's coming to town and asked her flat out about her menu (while providing my refs) , something I never would have done before. The worst she can do is refuse to speak to me, but under the circumstances, assuming I'm some offensive perv for asking is something ladies will have to get over. And you can still get the quantity of reviews, and the quality scores as if you were a non-VIP member in the good ol' days of last month, so it's not a complete loss.

One thing I did notice: there's no longer any way for a provider to respond to a bad review. These guys are going to have to come up with some answers, or a new business model, pretty soon.

Lots of good commentary on the other board subject. I've only been on my E account a couple times since the raid, and both times from a computer that was not my own. I'm kind of paranoid about that with what went down.

P411 had very little traction until a few years go. I always told providers about it and suggested they join, something JohnnyZ and I both did. I think that has helped grow their local presence. D-C was the other one I recommended but I don't see too many joining that lately and their process is less professional and kind of wacky. I tried to help MM get on there, and it was so frustrating for her that she said "forget it".

This board had some issues before posting photos, etc. Maybe with the new software more gals can start advertising.

[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel; 1094333]Lots of good commentary on the other board subject. I've only been on my E account a couple times since the raid, and both times from a computer that was not my own. I'm kind of paranoid about that with what went down.

P411 had very little traction until a few years go. I always told providers about it and suggested they join, something JohnnyZ and I both did. I think that has helped grow their local presence. QUOTE]

I've been on E several times lately to see what's happening. I even posted a new review to see if it would extend my VIP membership days. It didn't. I guess I'd better gather contact info before my VIP runs out. I find it hard to believe that they have CC info on all of the girls who are still listed.

It is good to see that many of the girls are going to P411. It's a pay site for the guys but a very reasonable fee. And the vouch system helps keep it safe. Another the good thing is that, being located in Canada, they are insulated from the LE crap that plagues us in the US.

[quote=scup1958; 1094516]i've been on e several times lately to see what's happening. i even posted a new review to see if it would extend my vip membership days. it didn't. i guess i'd better gather contact info before my vip runs out. i find it hard to believe that they have cc info on all of the girls who are still listed.

it is good to see that many of the girls are going to p411. it's a pay site for the guys but a very reasonable fee. and the vouch system helps keep it safe. another the good thing is that, being located in canada, they are insulated from the le crap that plagues us in the us. [/quote]whether $90 / year is reasonable depends on your perspective. i don't hobby much, i'm blessed with regulars who take good care of me, and i rarely travel or see travelers. and i have discretion issues with my credit card. to me it's a fee to view advertising, with no guarantee the advertiser will want to see me, though she'll have the vouch and know i was willing to pay for info i could get elsewhere for free. i can't say not being a member has ever prevented my seeing someone, and if it did life still go on. i've got to think that somebody will move into the void that's been created, charge advertisers for the advertising, and secure the info outside the insanity of the bluenoses and hypocrites in and out of le in this country.

as for the credit card info, my new friend has never been a member, had her profile taken down briefly, and was asked only for a simple age verification click to put it back up. i have no idea whether they stored numbers they were given, but they are simply trying to avoid complications from **** posting, not using credit cards to track ids.

[QUOTE=Scup1958;1094516]I've been on E several times lately to see what's happening. I even posted a new review to see if it would extend my VIP membership days. It didn't. I guess I'd better gather contact info before my VIP runs out. I find it hard to believe that they have CC info on all of the girls who are still listed.[/QUOTE]Scup's experience indicates writing a review no longer "buys" a free 30-day VIP membership. My bet is E needs documentation of age on the reviewers also, which they did not have when all they had was a review we wrote.

Scup, better check the list of reviews you have written. I bet you'll find many of them are gone. Mine are. In my case I think it is because their profiles were removed for lack of documentation of their age.

[quote=b beall; 1094558]whether $90 / year is reasonable depends on your perspective. i don't hobby much, i'm blessed with regulars who take good care of me, and i rarely travel or see travelers. and i have discretion issues with my credit card. to me it's a fee to view advertising, with no guarantee the advertiser will want to see me, though she'll have the vouch and know i was willing to pay for info i could get elsewhere for free. i can't say not being a member has ever prevented my seeing someone, and if it did life still go on. i've got to think that somebody will move into the void that's been created, charge advertisers for the advertising, and secure the info outside the insanity of the bluenoses and hypocrites in and out of le in this country.

as for the credit card info, my new friend has never been a member, had her profile taken down briefly, and was asked only for a simple age verification click to put it back up. i have no idea whether they stored numbers they were given, but they are simply trying to avoid complications from **** posting, not using credit cards to track ids. [/quote]i used to travel quite a bit for biz and had trouble getting appointments with sp's in the towns i travelled because i didn't have any local ref's. so i got on date check, then later got on p411, both solely for the verification as many of the same gals were on both and / or e. com. when my travel diminished i found that i had trouble getting appointments locally because i didn't have enough ref's. i was able to see touring gals though, and the p411 verifications made that easy as well, and saved time in the process. some even give discounts which paid for the fee in short time.

as for payment, i just stick cash in an envelope and mail it from an unfamiliar location. never had a problem, and besides, i spend more than the fee at a strip club.