Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

When I started this hobby there was such great supply and choices of girls, especially in the clubs in Newport and some had incall available rooms like the Mouse Trap and Spotted Calf. But back to my point, it was a buyers market with girls hustling for their share of the guys and no shows did not happen because the girls were seeking every client they could get because of the competition. Well the market has definitely changed. Now with so many clients the girls really do not care if they stand you up or just ignore taking your request and what bothers me is that we guys have come to accept this behavior and willing to put up with it. I am really thinking that it is time to get out of the hobby with things this way, not because I do not enjoy it but because when dealing with the girls anymore they have control of the game.

ST.

[QUOTE=SinsinnatiToy;3485671]When I started this hobby there was such great supply and choices of girls, especially in the clubs in Newport and some had incall available rooms like the Mouse Trap and Spotted Calf. But back to my point, it was a buyers market with girls hustling for their share of the guys and no shows did not happen because the girls were seeking every client they could get because of the competition. Well the market has definitely changed. Now with so many clients the girls really do not care if they stand you up or just ignore taking your request and what bothers me is that we guys have come to accept this behavior and willing to put up with it. I am really thinking that it is time to get out of the hobby with things this way, not because I do not enjoy it but because when dealing with the girls anymore they have control of the game.

ST.[/QUOTE]Its always been that way, you just notice it more the older you get and with the la2 ck of quality providers.

Any info if Busty Red is still around? Last time I saw her she said her ad was going down but she'd still see regulars, but I've heard nothing but crickets. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=SinsinnatiToy;3485671]When I started this hobby there was such great supply and choices of girls, especially in the clubs in Newport and some had incall available rooms like the Mouse Trap and Spotted Calf. But back to my point, it was a buyers market with girls hustling for their share of the guys and no shows did not happen because the girls were seeking every client they could get because of the competition. Well the market has definitely changed. Now with so many clients the girls really do not care if they stand you up or just ignore taking your request and what bothers me is that we guys have come to accept this behavior and willing to put up with it. I am really thinking that it is time to get out of the hobby with things this way, not because I do not enjoy it but because when dealing with the girls anymore they have control of the game.

ST.[/QUOTE]Wow! You must be an old fart like me. Those were the good ol' days of wild and wet Newport. I lost my cherry at the Spotted Calf back in the early 70's. Do you remember the Midwestern which, I think, was about two blocks or so west? You could get laid there for $20, and that was FULL SERVICE. The girls there were probably a step below the Spotted Calf, the Pink Pussycat and some others, but they were certainly "do-able". I loved when you got to the room and the girl gave you a bucket of warm water that you hung you cock over so she could wash it. It's hilarious to think of that now but as a young, horny guy back then it was fantastic.

[QUOTE=BluegrassBoy;3483591]On this same subject I have always wondered why some women / girls insist on showing themselves smoking or holding cigarettes in their ads. Does this turn some guys on? It doesn't work for me but to each their own.[/QUOTE]I keep a heavy plastic bag in my car and if I'm with a smoker I strip down right away and wrap my clothes up in it. Then, if possible, I put them in a dresser drawer. It works well but you still have to worry about your hair picking up some of the smell. The plastic bag also adds a layer of safety if you need to use the bathroom, for example, and your personal items are "alone" with the girl. I've never had a problem with any girls trying to get into my pockets or anything, but one never knows.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3486069]Wow! You must be an old fart like me. Those were the good ol' days of wild and wet Newport. I lost my cherry at the Spotted Calf back in the early 70's. Do you remember the Midwestern which, I think, was about two blocks or so west? You could get laid there for $20, and that was FULL SERVICE. The girls there were probably a step below the Spotted Calf, the Pink Pussycat and some others, but they were certainly "do-able". I loved when you got to the room and the girl gave you a bucket of warm water that you hung you cock over so she could wash it. It's hilarious to think of that now but as a young, horny guy back then it was fantastic.[/QUOTE]Ers.

All the great choices in the world and when the girl arranged a date for the next day or when she got off work, they always came through, now the girls could care less if they stand you up. Too many mongers and the girls are very comfortable taking advantage of the situation.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;3486069] I loved when you got to the room and the girl gave you a bucket of warm water that you hung you cock over so she could wash it.[/QUOTE]Wasn't that called a "Peter Pan"?

LuvnLivn.

[QUOTE=EyesGuy;3486028]Any info if Busty Red is still around? Last time I saw her she said her ad was going down but she'd still see regulars, but I've heard nothing but crickets. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I contacted her a while ago and she was still in business, but then a week or so ago I texted her at the same number and crickets.

The good dr.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;3486442]I contacted her a while ago and she was still in business, but then a week or so ago I texted her at the same number and crickets.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]That's basically my story with her too. She'll respond every now and then, but then silence. That inconsistency make me wonder about what happened, because it was always easy setting up with her.

I've been wondering something for awhile about lady's lingerie. I love a good couch dance or body-to-body or boobs-to-face tease while she's wearing a sexy outfit. But why the hell do they make those garments feel like 60 grit sandpaper? I just hope for her sake that they're a little softer on the inside.

LuvnLivn rantin' a bit.

[QUOTE=LuvnLivn;3488892]I've been wondering something for awhile about lady's lingerie. I love a good couch dance or body-to-body or boobs-to-face tease while she's wearing a sexy outfit. But why the hell do they make those garments feel like 60 grit sandpaper? I just hope for her sake that they're a little softer on the inside.

LuvnLivn rantin' a bit.[/QUOTE]My preference is a nice oufit I can bury my face in. Some ladies I perfer to drop a load and go. But the one's that pride them selves with good hygiene down there. That's a weakness. Just my opinion.

Seriously, the dude beefing with Madison in Norwwod needs to fucking get over it already.

Pal, if you're on here, you need to realize that posting about her twenty times a day on backpage just makes you look like a butthurt loser.

We fucking get it; she pissed you off. But your obsession with her or revenge against her is just truly unmanly, and weird.

She's a fucking junkie and a *****, and totally not worth your time or energy.

Move on, buttercup.

It does seem a little obsessive but you have to admit the rhymes are funny.

[QUOTE=Festellung;3490554]Seriously, the dude beefing with Madison in Norwwod needs to fucking get over it already.

Pal, if you're on here, you need to realize that posting about her twenty times a day on backpage just makes you look like a butthurt loser.

We fucking get it; she pissed you off. But your obsession with her or revenge against her is just truly unmanly, and weird.

She's a fucking junkie and a *****, and totally not worth your time or energy.

Move on, buttercup.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Festellung;3490554]Seriously, the dude beefing with Madison in Norwwod needs to fucking get over it already.

Pal, if you're on here, you need to realize that posting about her twenty times a day on backpage just makes you look like a butthurt loser.

We fucking get it; she pissed you off. But your obsession with her or revenge against her is just truly unmanly, and weird.

She's a fucking junkie and a *****, and totally not worth your time or energy.

Move on, buttercup.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it was funny at first and I got a few laughs out of it, butt it's starting to get disturbing.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;3490661]It does seem a little obsessive but you have to admit the rhymes are funny.[/QUOTE]+1 on that. There's some creative shit there.

Damn but that is the most painful thing I have ever been through. Recently got to spend 5 nights in the hospital due to gall stones. Then a few days later surgery to take the gall bladder out. Fortunately it was an easy surgery and I didn't even need any pain meds.

Unfortunately it has kept me from mongering lately. I hope to be back at it soon. Of course the girls might like the baby smooth and shaved belly! LOL.

[QUOTE=CinciScubaDude;3493779]Damn but that is the most painful thing I have ever been through. Recently got to spend 5 nights in the hospital due to gall stones. Then a few days later surgery to take the gall bladder out. Fortunately it was an easy surgery and I didn't even need any pain meds.

Unfortunately it has kept me from mongering lately. I hope to be back at it soon. Of course the girls might like the baby smooth and shaved belly! LOL.[/QUOTE]Nice to see your priorities are straight LOL.

Glad you're on the mend. I had Kidney stones about 20 years ago and they are fucking brutal.

She decided to cancel today. If anyone interested let me know I try reschedule for another day.

[QUOTE=TommyJohn;3490709]Yeah, it was funny at first and I got a few laughs out of it, butt it's starting to get disturbing.[/QUOTE]The longer it continues, the further it moves away from just bitching and into the realm of something truly worrisome.

Every monger on here should be worried about this fucking idiot, because he might just work himself up enough to go seriously hurt or kill her.

That would be bad news for all of us. Want to see a gigantic police crackdown on mongering region-wide, just have some fucking whack job murder a provider.

Seriously, if someone knows this guy, sit him down and straighten him out, or at least make sure he doesn't take it to the next level thereby endangering all of us.

[QUOTE=Festellung;3495729]The longer it continues, the further it moves away from just bitching and into the realm of something truly worrisome.

Every monger on here should be worried about this fucking idiot, because he might just work himself up enough to go seriously hurt or kill her.

That would be bad news for all of us. Want to see a gigantic police crackdown on mongering region-wide, just have some fucking whack job murder a provider.

Seriously, if someone knows this guy, sit him down and straighten him out, or at least make sure he doesn't take it to the next level thereby endangering all of us.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this Madison thing, I'll say this I saw her and she was so far from a good date that I'll never see her again. But to me that's just her I wrote my review and moved on just like the young lady that did the cash and dash on me write the review and move on. Life is way to short I don't want to meet anybody that I have to put that much energy into disliking. I hope this clown reads this and sees how many people think he is a childish asshole and give his game up. HL29.

[URL]http://www.bolde.com/how-to-date-like-guy-12-easy-steps/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;3496554][URL]http://www.bolde.com/how-to-date-like-guy-12-easy-steps/[/URL][/QUOTE]The article you link to attempts to create humor by swapping genders and applying stereotypes. A valid method if it was written for the targeted men to view. Holding up a mirror is a good tactic to make a point.

But that's not the intent of [URL]bolde.com[/URL]'s content. The site seems to be written for women to circle jerk about being amazing and shitting on all the men. The horrible despicable men that aren't good enough, but also the same men these idiot women have chosen to chase after. Consider swapping the gender specifics on the other articles and you'll see that almost every sentence on the site drips man-hating contempt. And while a site with men hating women in such a manner would be condemned and loathed by a large majority of modern men and women, this is the kind of content that sees wide-spread support. As with nearly all extreme feminist rhetoric currently.

Considering that I am posting this criticism on a site which many outsiders could view as woman-hating or abusive to women, or full of men who encourage or revel in such attitudes, I feel that saying the article is shitty sexist nonsense isn't enough.

So: You posted the link here. A site full of men. Most of whom are probably not even the kind of man who would have done these things. Some long married thus demonstrating their willingness to commit regardless of the costs to them.

And yet it is a forum about paying for sex with mostly (I maintain) drug addicts and unfortunate women. To be sure, there are lots of horrible men here. But there are also men who actually love women and love making women happy. Who are ignorant of reality, or knowingly striving against the dismal tide.

This is why the alluring "escort ideal" of a woman who loves sex and sees no harm in making a lot of money having sex it is so pervasive here and everywhere that men discuss hookers, escorts, companions, sugarbabies, etc.

It's why GFE is a very sought after part of the deal for a large number of the guys. Many won't see a provider who doesn't offer it.

This is why most common issues with providers who are otherwise deemed attractive, safe, etc. Are things like: Mechanical. Stand-offish. Not into it. Clock-watcher. All of these things are symptoms and indications of not enjoying the "date". In other words, she is not into it and therefore the sex is no fun. Because what most guys want is for her to be into it. Men who hate and have contempt for women would not regularly seek out intimate companionship like GFE. Or care if she was into it or not.

Even the desire for CIM is largely a psychological issue. Because being denied CIM is a kind of shitty disgust for a guy's come. It would be like going down on a girl and being disgusted by her taste. Complete rejection of her most intimate self. While it also feels good to not wear a condom and to have her mouth around your cock while you get off, part of that too is psychological.

Half the married guys here would be happy to fuck their wives, but their wives (who are no doubt born amazing by virtue of having vaginas and because "women are best") reportedly aren't interested. Rather than seek out a mistress with all the problems that could lead to, hookers seem the better option. Single guys find themselves here for various reasons. And too many are looking to rescue a girl because it is in their upbringing to help and protect and support women, even women they don't really know. I say "too many" because it is mostly an unrealistic expectation. Better to focus on finding someone outside the hobby and stop making yourself miserable.

In the end, I can only guess why you thought the article was worth posting. Or why you would even be on that shitshow of a site reading any of it to begin with. But it's a really shitty attempt at being funny, and probably not something that could apply to most guys here.

I agree with Pro Vid. Man hating, or misandy has been chic in the US for the last couple of decades, definitely an out growth of feminism and the belief that females can do anything males can. This attitude has led to more competition of the genders than cooperation. It has also resulted in a marked decline in the femininity of the American female. Which is why I am an AMP man. Many of these Far Eastern honeys were raised in cultures where the males are considered equal if not actually superior to women and retain their femininity when they come to this country to work. After awhile, some do become jaded just because of the pervasive misandry in this country, but they are a lot of fun until that happens.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;3496554][URL]http://www.bolde.com/how-to-date-like-guy-12-easy-steps/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hostility disguised as humor.

Have to agree with Provid.

This is Manda. Been out for a while due to work, but I just got two new cameras. A Nikon D500 and a Nikon D7500. These of Manda were taken Friday at her house with the D7500.

That women would take this seriously! I found it on a dating site, women seeking boyfriends and was surprised to see it. I don't have a lot of experience with what was written as none of that has happened to me. But I did tell them on the dating site that guys in the hobby treat me better than the one's I've gone on dates with.

Someone is using silks pictures on backpage claiming her name is brittni or something. How disrespectful:/ smh. Just bothers me. Rant over LOL.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3502601]Someone is using silks pictures on backpage claiming her name is brittni or something. How disrespectful:/ smh. Just bothers me. Rant over LOL.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link? Thanks.

So I was getting pretty frustrated this morning. I sent out texts last night and again this morning to a number of girls. I got a big zippo for reply. And these are more reliable providers. I finally realize that my phone went inactive and needed more airtime. My texts weren't being sent! I got to walmart and bought some more airtime and finally got some responses! Had a great afternoon with a provider.

Moral of the story is to make sure your phone is working!

[QUOTE=Glockman;3501231]This is Manda. Been out for a while due to work, but I just got two new cameras. A Nikon D500 and a Nikon D7500. These of Manda were taken Friday at her house with the D7500.[/QUOTE]Glock.

Manda is so damn hot. Nice work.

Cheers.

TM.

Hope this posting finds all the great mongers on USASG and the Admins well and in good health. Little late on some of these updates but yes EE ladies Tracee, April and Jill are no longer with me. Anna is still active and I will post more on her when she is available. Of course Lady J and me are now in a partnership. I will try to post more updates and other tidbits more often in.

The Octagon to develop a better line of communication. Thanks again for any monger who has seen a EE lady. You can text me at anytime about concerns or questions or just general info. I do check and verify new clients but the process is painless. If you are a prior client then everything is easy and quick. I am always looking for new talent for you great mongers and conversely.

If any monger knows a lady wanting some assistance or trying to get into the industry I be very receptive to helping her out. And of course I would be very appreciative of such of a referral. As many know EE ladies and some of my proteges (Brookee, Laylee, Cassee etc) are some the more popular USASG Ladies. Again thank you again everyone and Happy Mongering! EE.

She let me know she is fine being on her own.

[QUOTE=EloquentEven;3504549]Hope this posting finds all the great mongers on USASG and the Admins well and in good health. Little late on some of these updates but yes EE ladies Tracee, April and Jill are no longer with me. Anna is still active and I will post more on her when she is available. Of course Lady J and me are now in a partnership. I will try to post more updates and other tidbits more often in.

The Octagon to develop a better line of communication. Thanks again for any monger who has seen a EE lady. You can text me at anytime about concerns or questions or just general info. I do check and verify new clients but the process is painless. If you are a prior client then everything is easy and quick. I am always looking for new talent for you great mongers and conversely.

If any monger knows a lady wanting some assistance or trying to get into the industry I be very receptive to helping her out. And of course I would be very appreciative of such of a referral. As many know EE ladies and some of my proteges (Brookee, Laylee, Cassee etc) are some the more popular USASG Ladies. Again thank you again everyone and Happy Mongering! EE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EloquentEven;3504549]Not repeating your post[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Steve. Seems pretty pimpy to me.

Sounds more like a Hallmark newsletter. LOL.

But Steve would look terrific in some fur and a purple Fedora with a feather.

That image cracked me up for like 20 minutes. Hahahaha. I'm hilarious.

Anyone ever deeam of her? I wasn't sure if she was Grave May.

With that recent post of the cassie video, made me wonder if any other current or former providers had videos out there? Would sure love to see some if they exist, especially of any of the former EE providers.

This ad on USA Classified smells fishy.

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/37708-18yrs-hot-hispanic-maria-sexy-latino-5ft-2in-110lbs-34c-outcalls-in-cincy-nky-cvg-airport.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3513168]This ad on USA Classified smells fishy.

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/37708-18yrs-hot-hispanic-maria-sexy-latino-5ft-2in-110lbs-34c-outcalls-in-cincy-nky-cvg-airport.html[/URL][/QUOTE]There are several review for that number from 2015 on The othER site. They are all bad. I would recommend you avoid.

Bam.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3513168]This ad on USA Classified smells fishy.

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/37708-18yrs-hot-hispanic-maria-sexy-latino-5ft-2in-110lbs-34c-outcalls-in-cincy-nky-cvg-airport.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't know but these are the pics she sent. I told her no thanks because she looked younger than 18. She said at 5'0", she hears that all the time.

SP.

[QUOTE=LewisLewis1984;3512657]With that recent post of the cassie video, made me wonder if any other current or former providers had videos out there? Would sure love to see some if they exist, especially of any of the former EE providers.[/QUOTE]There have been a couple posted here. One was of Alicia aka Allie, the other one I can remember was of a deceased provider; it was PG-13 and I won't say her name out of respect. If you hit up pornhub there is some dude that posts vids of his streetwalker escapades in the Baltimore area, and plenty more if you search for 'Backpage escort'. Or so someone told me.