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[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7307455]I've used virtual cards but what is amex trade shift?[/QUOTE]It's a service generally targeted to business credit card accounts. V-numbers is the way to go though there is additional overhead for something like seeking as virtual numbers are usually one-use only and you'll have to input a new one each time you want to renew.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7307304]Use a different / new card that has never been associated with the site but don't use the name related to that card in the information field. You can use a fictitious name and it will still go through.[/QUOTE]I tried that and was still suspended.
[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7307927]I tried that and was still suspended.[/QUOTE]Are you using a VPN? Try different nodes every time.
They might be IP logging or even browser fingerprinting (pure speculation). Brave and Firefox browsers have decent protecting for browser fingerprinting. Worth a look and it can't hurt to protect yourself against it anyway.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7307958]Are you using a VPN? Try different nodes every time.
They might be IP logging or even browser fingerprinting (pure speculation). Brave and Firefox browsers have decent protecting for browser fingerprinting. Worth a look and it can't hurt to protect yourself against it anyway.[/QUOTE]I even tried with a VPN on my desktop running AND a VPN running Firefox, both different nodes. Same thing. They have some PII of mine that I am not sure of.
[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7308052]I even tried with a VPN on my desktop running AND a VPN running Firefox, both different nodes. Same thing. They have some PII of mine that I am not sure of.[/QUOTE]Use different devices with different cards and info. Could be fingerprinting or persistent cookies.
Anybody test this one?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6109b9ba-a0aa-4b5d-a6e7-004b67adf0b8[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrG2J;7309035]Anybody test this one?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6109b9ba-a0aa-4b5d-a6e7-004b67adf0b8[/URL][/QUOTE]She sends a lot of outbound. So that feels accurate.
Any tech bros here over 50 and interested in helping me 3-/4-some some non-pros? I've been breaking two chicks one Brazilian and one Latin one both mid-20's. I've talked both into trying a 3-some with a "friend" LOL. Must be over 50, and tech bros preferred. Don't message me complaining or asking why tech bros / why over 50/ whatever. I've done this a few times and have had some great wingmen before. DM if you're interested and meet the criteria. If you're too broke, don't bother DMing either.
[QUOTE=MrG2J;7309035]Anybody test this one?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6109b9ba-a0aa-4b5d-a6e7-004b67adf0b8[/URL][/QUOTE]She has a civilian job as a hair stylist in the Central District. I never got pro vibes from her; more that she's just really expensive and eager to land a wealthy daddy.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7308603]Use different devices with different cards and info. Could be fingerprinting or persistent cookies.[/QUOTE]That is correct they use fingerprinting to identify you. You can read up on fingerprinting. It is harder to circumvent, as you need to know the combination of things their fingerprinting software uses to I'd you. Fingerprinting can be simple combination of your (e. G. IP+browser+OS) or it can be a extremely complex set of things.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;7309890]That is correct they use fingerprinting to identify you. You can read up on fingerprinting. It is harder to circumvent, as you need to know the combination of things their fingerprinting software uses to I'd you. Fingerprinting can be simple combination of your (e. G. IP+browser+OS) or it can be a extremely complex set of things.[/QUOTE]Yeah. So, in that case LonelyMan718, you're going to have to be aggressive.
Easy-.
Use Brave or Tor browser. Tor is iffy as a lot of sites break in it. Brave definitely works with Seeking and blocks most fingerprinting scripts without breaking sites. Firefox has some good privacy extensions as well.
Install uBlockOrigin browser extension. I've also heard good things about PrivacyBadger but not used it.
VPN doesn't really help with fingerprinting but use one anyway for everything.
I've also heard that Visa eGift cards work on the site so that won't have your PII on it.
Harder-.
Set up a virtual machine. Linux can be significantly more lightweight than Windows depending on the flavor you choose. You can constantly change the hardware of a VM- ram, CPU, GPU, etc. , though there is a limit to how effective this might be as your processors will all be of the same type even though you can change the number and size. But you can set up a VM that doesn't save state when you shut it down do there is no record of any activity on that machine, that's a bonus.
If you get back in, say nothing explicit to anyone on the site. Always move off-site before discussing 'dates', activity, PPM / allowance, etc. Pretty much use the site messaging to say hi, establish a quick rapport, and then move to text on your burner.
[QUOTE=Markro3000;7309090]She sends a lot of outbound. So that feels accurate.[/QUOTE]She really does.
Got an unsolicited message from her on my regular account and for the first time ever I got my first message on my second account, that I only use to see if people have blocked me or just left the site. That first message on the mostly empty account was from her.
I've been having really good luck there recently. There don't seem to be as many scams and scammers there and the ladies are all down to meet and DTF.
There was one on there who was getting a little bit of cold feet about meeting and I texted her a photo of $400 in 20's and told her it was all for her. Ninety minutes later she was kneeling in front of me at a Holiday Inn Express.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7310956]I've been having really good luck there recently. There don't seem to be as many scams and scammers there and the ladies are all down to meet and DTF.
There was one on there who was getting a little bit of cold feet about meeting and I texted her a photo of $400 in 20's and told her it was all for her. Ninety minutes later she was kneeling in front of me at a Holiday Inn Express.[/QUOTE]Hmmm 400 is more than I am paying fwiw on sdm. Most girls will take 250.
Who was it?
[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7310969]Hmmm 400 is more than I am paying fwiw on sdm. Most girls will take 250.
Who was it?[/QUOTE]I had minimal luck with SDM and let my subscription lapse. You guys are making me think it's time to re-up.
Curious about your tactics and any good prospects too!
[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7310969]Hmmm 400 is more than I am paying fwiw on sdm. Most girls will take 250.[/QUOTE]
I consider 400 reasonable for a girl who is in shape and attractive, shows up on time, and allows all activities raw.
If they can't show up on time they aren't worth it at any price.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7310956]I've been having really good luck there recently. There don't seem to be as many scams and scammers there and the ladies are all down to meet and DTF.
There was one on there who was getting a little bit of cold feet about meeting and I texted her a photo of $400 in 20's and told her it was all for her. Ninety minutes later she was kneeling in front of me at a Holiday Inn Express.[/QUOTE]What's the fees like for us?
Speaking of alternatives to SA, how's Secret Benefits these days? I tried it a while back and wasted $60 worth of credits on 10 girls who didn't respond. Though now with the video verifications I feel helps prove legitimacy of the girls. Considering 80% of women look absolutely horrendous in those videos, I assume they don't know the site is showing them to us men LOL.
For anyone who doesn't know. SugarDaddyMeet and SecretBenefits is the same website (same database, content, interface) - but targeted to the two sides through different marketing sources.
[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7311705]Speaking of alternatives to SA, how's Secret Benefits these days? I tried it a while back and wasted $60 worth of credits on 10 girls who didn't respond. Though now with the video verifications I feel helps prove legitimacy of the girls. Considering 80% of women look absolutely horrendous in those videos, I assume they don't know the site is showing them to us men LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7311705]Speaking of alternatives to SA, how's Secret Benefits these days? I tried it a while back and wasted $60 worth of credits on 10 girls who didn't respond. [/QUOTE]Same. It's a very suspicious site with lots of online indicators and tons of messages waiting to be unlocked. I got 1 response that went nowhere. I liked the verification videos but the whole site is designed around micro transactions to an insane degree. I gave up on it.
[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7311414]What's the fees like for us?[/QUOTE]90 for 3 months, unlimited messages.
[QUOTE=SwordMightier;7312163]For anyone who doesn't know. SugarDaddyMeet and SecretBenefits is the same website (same database, content, interface) - but targeted to the two sides through different marketing sources.[/QUOTE]Huh?? SugarDaddyMeet doesn't use credits, and it's been around since 2007. SecretBenefits uses credits, which began around 2015.
I think you're getting it mixed up with [URL]SugarDaddy.com[/URL], which does seem to be using the same database. Even the verification videos on SecretBenefits/SugarDaddy have the girls saying the same "let me be your secret" line.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7310956]I've been having really good luck there recently. There don't seem to be as many scams and scammers there and the ladies are all down to meet and DTF.
There was one on there who was getting a little bit of cold feet about meeting and I texted her a photo of $400 in 20's and told her it was all for her. Ninety minutes later she was kneeling in front of me at a Holiday Inn Express.[/QUOTE]Nice, I've had good luck on that site too. There's definaltey a lot scammers on all these sites, but it's good to hear some good news stories too.
[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7312505]Huh?? SugarDaddyMeet doesn't use credits, and it's been around since 2007. SecretBenefits uses credits, which began around 2015.
I think you're getting it mixed up with [URL]SugarDaddy.com[/URL], which does seem to be using the same database. Even the verification videos on SecretBenefits/SugarDaddy have the girls saying the same "let me be your secret" line.[/QUOTE]Yeah, he's mistaken. Sugardaddymeet is not affiliated with Secretbenefits. SB does have mirror sites though, [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL] being one of them.
I've had success on SB too. A lot of people hate the "credits" system but I found in practice it spends about the same as an SA membership. Yes, it is scammy and yes there are some goofy incentives for girls to contact you just once and ghost. But on the average I get about the same number of girls without a lot of the obvious corruption that SA has.
The only thing that I see that is weird about SB is that in spite of the really explicit ads a lot of the girls, especially a lot of the younger ones, have zero clue about what they actually signed up for. Which if there is some other site feeding their profiles might actually make sense.
When I talk about "obvious corruption" on SA my big pet peeve (and why I am banned and will never go back) is that a lot of girls get their premium membership by working for SA. Which lets them read your emails and stalk and harass you if they want to.
Personally, I've grown to prefer SB. You definitely want to be selective with the credits you spend. ONLY open messages from girls you know you want to see. DON'T unlock photo albums unless you need more pics to make a judgment. DON'T message every girl but instead go for profiles that show high effort at engagement. Once you learn those ropes your success rate goes up.
If you go for every sweet in the candy shop you'll find yourself broke, but personally I feel like by exercising a little restraint I get more value that way than Seeking's flat fee. The quality of girls and number of scammer / bots / pic sellers / TikTokers etc. is about the same between the sites as far I can tell.
I got straight up robbed at gunpoint by this girl and her boyfriend / dirt bag.
This happened like one month ago, I am finally over it.
After arranging a meet up for like 2 months (she is very flaky), we finally met to have a date for 3 benjis. We agreed to meet at Juanita Beach at 11 pm and then rent a room at the motel 6 nearby in Kirkland. She didn't show up until after midnight (first red flag). Once she arrived, I could tell she is from the pics but she doesn't look like her profile pics at all (second red flag). Pictures are probably from some years ago, now she is a little overweight, crackhead face, mentally ill (you can tell by the way she talks and looks at you), I am not a neurologist but I can see there's some brain damage there, probably hard drugs. She looked very wasted away. I should've just stopped it right there, but at that moment I just wanted to nut, I didn't think straight up.
Once she got into my car, she immediately demanded the money up front (another red flag), which I foolishly gave it to her. At that moment, she immediately changed her tone and version of the agreement, saying that 3 is not what we agreed and started to yell at me and get aggressive, we started to argue back and forth. This must've been her strategy to distract me and not realize that someone was approaching from my side. It was too late by the time I realized a guy already open my door (it wasn't locked for some reason), and point a gun to me (I couldn't tell if it was an actual gun, but I could tell it was a white blondish guy with baggy clothes, some variant of trailer trash crackhead looking guy. He was also very aggressive demanding my wallet and the car keys. Without the gun, I could easily take him down since he was slinky and no more than 5'9, but I didn't how to react at that moment since I have never been in similar situation before. Before I knew it, the girl was long gone.
I proceed to hand him all the money I have (another 300 ish dollars) ("luckily" when I meet someone new, I never take with me my whole wallet, personal phone and credit cards, I use a burner with no money apps, to be safe. I was already accepting the fact of losing my car, but it occurred to me to tell the guy that this is a rental and has GPS and they will find it quickly the same night (my car is fairly new, 2 years old, loos like a rental cause I keep it clean LOL). He stopped for a second and just ran away with the money and burner, I could tell there was a third person (or it was the girl?) waiting on a car (old gray sadan, couldn't tell the make / model) like a block away. He quickly hopped in the car and they drove away. I am just glad I drove back home, couldn't sleep that night.
After long thinking, I think this was a group of crackheads playing gangsters, but I didn't want to take any risks that night. Also I'm surprise they pulled this one in Kirkland, it is a very safe area for this type of games.
Anyways, be aware fellas.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3cd4c07b-277c-4be3-9c6e-23e06a421c9a[/URL]
[QUOTE=Papicho;7312898]I got straight up robbed at gunpoint by this girl and her boyfriend / dirt bag.[/QUOTE]That sucks balls. Good call on not bringing all the other stuff. I do the same, only have what's been discussed for the appointment.
Anyone talked to this pair? Blonde is a little over the weight line for me but a good duo can change my standards.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/927d2f52-3305-4ac0-8206-dacf1ed5d1a3[/URL]
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7312995]Anyone talked to this pair? Blonde is a little over the weight line for me but a good duo can change my standards.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/927d2f52-3305-4ac0-8206-dacf1ed5d1a3[/URL][/QUOTE]Uhhh something is off about the dark haired one. Either she has a birth defect which puts her head below her shoulders or that pick is altered. I would say avoid or shoot for the blonde. Nope, I'm sure of it, it's altered. You can see the bad photoshop around the hair. Avoid or you'll end up like our brethren below.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7310567]Yeah. So, in that case LonelyMan718, you're going to have to be aggressive.
Easy-.
Use Brave or Tor browser. Tor is iffy as a lot of sites break in it. Brave definitely works with Seeking and blocks most fingerprinting scripts without breaking sites. Firefox has some good privacy extensions as well.
Install uBlockOrigin browser extension. I've also heard good things about PrivacyBadger but not used it.
VPN doesn't really help with fingerprinting but use one anyway for everything.
I've also heard that Visa eGift cards work on the site so that won't have your PII on it.
Harder-.
Set up a virtual machine. Linux can be significantly more lightweight than Windows depending on the flavor you choose. You can constantly change the hardware of a VM- ram, CPU, GPU, etc. , though there is a limit to how effective this might be as your processors will all be of the same type even though you can change the number and size. But you can set up a VM that doesn't save state when you shut it down do there is no record of any activity on that machine, that's a bonus.
If you get back in, say nothing explicit to anyone on the site. Always move off-site before discussing 'dates', activity, PPM / allowance, etc. Pretty much use the site messaging to say hi, establish a quick rapport, and then move to text on your burner.[/QUOTE]Has anyone tried a Visa Gift Card recently? I have heard it no longer works.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7312995]Anyone talked to this pair? Blonde is a little over the weight line for me but a good duo can change my standards.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/927d2f52-3305-4ac0-8206-dacf1ed5d1a3[/URL][/QUOTE]Chatted with them a couple years ago. Had a date set up and they got cold feet and later ghosted. They are on cuddle comfort as SpringplusLynn, that's the name they used on seeking in the past. I do remember that they agreed to a very reasonable rate.
[QUOTE=Bronco62;7313192]Chatted with them a couple years ago. Had a date set up and they got cold feet and later ghosted. They are on cuddle comfort as SpringplusLynn, that's the name they used on seeking in the past. I do remember that they agreed to a very reasonable rate.[/QUOTE]They each have individual accounts. Based on your experience here's an ironic quote from Spring's- "Who has time for games or getting ghosted?" LOL.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7312995]Anyone talked to this pair? Blonde is a little over the weight line for me but a good duo can change my standards.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/927d2f52-3305-4ac0-8206-dacf1ed5d1a3[/URL][/QUOTE]I fucked both of them a while ago. Would not repeat. Just too ugly and fat.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7313201]They each have individual accounts. Based on your experience here's an ironic quote from Spring's- "Who has time for games or getting ghosted?" LOL.[/QUOTE]They have a limited presence on TNA too.
[QUOTE=Jjzih;7313346]I fucked both of them a while ago. Would not repeat. Just too ugly and fat.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zuBV_7tJt5k[/URL]
Any of you guys check this one out? Isn't she the fitness chick that posts on the GPS board? Any difference between her sugar rate and hoe rate?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f138142e-9cf4-442f-abab-9c5e254e822e[/URL]
[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;7313836]Any of you guys check this one out? Isn't she the fitness chick that posts on the GPS board? Any difference between her sugar rate and hoe rate?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f138142e-9cf4-442f-abab-9c5e254e822e[/URL][/QUOTE]IME experience fitness chicks are super high maintenance and huge PITA. Never met one in the hobby because of my experiences in the real world. I'd bet they're all GPS.
[QUOTE=Papicho;7312898]I got straight up robbed at gunpoint by this girl and her boyfriend / dirt bag.
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Anyways, be aware fellas.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3cd4c07b-277c-4be3-9c6e-23e06a421c9a[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that, that really sucks, but glad you are ok. Smart move not taking your regular wallet along too. Attaching profile picture in case she resurfaces.
[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7312531]Yeah, he's mistaken. Sugardaddymeet is not affiliated with Secretbenefits. SB does have mirror sites though, [URL]sugardaddy.com[/URL] being one of them.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was wondering what he was talking about LOL.
[url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10145-Non-Pro-s&p=7312716&viewfull=1#post7312716]Marko Ramius[/url] makes a good point about these sites like SugarDaddy linked to Secret Benefits and how you get these young girls signing up for them. The SB ads aimed at guys are pretty explicit (guy in a suit standing behind a women's bare ass and so on. Maybe they're seeing ads for SugarDaddy and they're tamer?