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[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7294624]I had a girl off SDM yesterday ask me flat out "are you just trying to to fuck? Why would I do that? If guys just want to fuck they should get escorts".

I told her that most girls on that site are escorts and the reason guys like sugaring is because it is about building some form of trust and I equate it to a FWB that I help financially, whereas escorts don't give 2 shits about me.

She said she wasn't interested in that so I said "fine we can hang out and go on dates to feel each other out but you aren't getting money".

Her response was iconic "I am only doing this for the money". 🤯.[/QUOTE]Yeah, some mothers do have them. I wonder if guys actually give her money for nothing (queue up Dire Straits). Or is she that naive that she thinks just being a woman talking to guys, guys are going to give her money. I agree with your point about building trust and the equation of FWB that is helped financially. Even though it's technically transactional, it's not a grind for them per se, so they're less likely to be jaded like hookers. It's just in that emotional sweet spot where it's not strictly physical, but also not strictly a relationship. It's in the middle, where both can get out when it's not working. At least that's what I imagine it should be like. I hope that makes sense.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7294624]I had a girl off SDM yesterday ask me flat out "are you just trying to to fuck? Why would I do that? If guys just want to fuck they should get escorts".

I told her that most girls on that site are escorts and the reason guys like sugaring is because it is about building some form of trust and I equate it to a FWB that I help financially, whereas escorts don't give 2 shits about me.

She said she wasn't interested in that so I said "fine we can hang out and go on dates to feel each other out but you aren't getting money".

Her response was iconic "I am only doing this for the money"..[/QUOTE]Anytime I get someone who thinks sugaring is about no sex just one way compensation — especially when they request to be paid for icebreakers — I always respond, "you're not that interesting for me to pay you to meet you, hang out with you, or listen to your shit. " And tell them to kick rocks. I cannot think of a worse use of my money. For a group of girls who come to a site geared towards removing the relationship part out of rendezvous, they sure want to rip the rendezvous part out of the relationship. It's like getting a base model Benz / BMW / Audi; you only really came for the AMG / M / RS but only are left with the price tag and the maintenance headache.

So-Crates.

[QUOTE=MrG2J;7294587][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/01ca162c-f0a0-45b1-bd44-a67a40940899[/URL]

Ex raver, supple tits and ass, fantastic deep throat ability with plenty of slobber and tears, tasty kitty, squirts multiple times, is on BC and took many loads. Writing her off as our schedules aren't click.[/QUOTE]She hasn't been active in a few weeks, care to DM me her contact info?

[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7294788]She hasn't been active in a few weeks, care to DM me her contact info?[/QUOTE]She was active 4 hours ago on SA.

Lovely Anna.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Annalove/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7295247]She was active 4 hours ago on SA.[/QUOTE]Profile gone.

[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7295412]Lovely Anna.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Annalove/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen her. She is a stripper in Seattle. Doesn't kiss and only does CFS.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7295430]Profile gone.[/QUOTE]Nope still there.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7295430]Profile gone.[/QUOTE]It says gone for me too. I haven't had so many interactions lately to get blocked. If someone can post a pic it would be awesome.

[QUOTE=Runner2448;7296012]It says gone for me too. I haven't had so many interactions lately to get blocked. If someone can post a pic it would be awesome.[/QUOTE]Still up for me. Says she was active 14 hours ago or w / e. Sent her a message last night but haven't heard back.

I have not renewed my SA since they dumped promo codes, where I got 33%off.

Has anyone seen anything better then the 20% that pops up every time I pop into the site.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7296299]I have not renewed my SA since they dumped promo codes, where I got 33%off.

Has anyone seen anything better then the 20% that pops up every time I pop into the site.[/QUOTE]Bro I've been waiting for something better than 20% to pop up for months. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm also not paying $90 or whatever for that site when I have to spend so much time weeding thru the garbage.

New SLN girl, Pretty 27.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Prettybrowneyes/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7296528]Bro I've been waiting for something better than 20% to pop up for months. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm also not paying $90 or whatever for that site when I have to spend so much time weeding thru the garbage.[/QUOTE]I got offered 25% but before I realized what I was looking at, I closed it out thinking it was the 20%. Haven't seen it since.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c5f1d901-94c1-4366-8599-ad6c0a32302e[/URL]

Anybody play with this hottie yet?

[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7296553]New SLN girl, Pretty 27.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Prettybrowneyes/[/URL][/QUOTE]Bros trying real hard to make SLN a thing LOL.

[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7296553]New SLN girl, Pretty 27.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Prettybrowneyes/[/URL][/QUOTE]I looked at SLN, 80 bucks for 3 months, but not a whole lot of ladies on there, have you been having good luck with it?

That was a weird month on SA. Below is my list. Need to keep it fairly ambiguous since some of the simps on this forum report back to these women.

Cassandra. Sick relative. Wants money for help.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b69f42c0-1cad-4940-917a-fbf4320065ff[/URL]

Jessica. MILF but flaked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ed8ef9e-fffe-4ac5-a758-53519cd1720f[/URL]

Ari. Real. GPS. Expen $I've.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/86204111-b395-423b-9eba-2b47cafba5e4[/URL]

Emily. Wants two bills for meet and greet. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c5f1d901-94c1-4366-8599-ad6c0a32302e[/URL]

Vivian. Wants $1 K for video call to prove you're real. SMH. Hard pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a7e322e3-7c43-4e90-9337-ef0a6cb59354[/URL]

Jadoreme. Heavier than advertised.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e715d9c-4020-472f-b9bc-bcdb9815623c[/URL]

Blondeabroad. GPS and boring.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7c65696-605c-405e-b506-6a8051101a98[/URL]

Bella. Pic seller. Scammer vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce6bbb7b-8884-412f-950b-878b180e5b9e[/URL]

Sweetie. GPS. Wants money for meet and greet. Has a ton of rules and the most expensive of the lot.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb8860b2-f52b-4fbc-a0fc-bcf792cbcf42[/URL]

Kitty. Real but hubby wants to watch you rail his big busted wife.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e84c7127-8e1d-47e0-ab70-120358f8c395[/URL]

Jessica. Real. Kinda spendy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eba733e5-f17f-4cc0-9cd4-cac16ff0fe87[/URL]

Kerri. Pro vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bd7d491e-10dc-4198-a70e-c5f27999a3f3[/URL]

Stephanie. Pro vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34767e99-194b-4d2c-b60c-a4cab4ae70d3[/URL]

Elle. Real. Cool. Spendy but lives far from here.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/87dc79b6-e6d0-4ec9-839c-6ac309e07620[/URL]

[QUOTE=FlashLidar;7298120]Jadoreme. Heavier than advertised.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e715d9c-4020-472f-b9bc-bcdb9815623c[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Uhhh. How much heavier?

[QUOTE=CuttingEdge;7298650]Uhhh. How much heavier?[/QUOTE]At least 4 stone.

[QUOTE=FlashLidar;7299396]At least 4 stone.[/QUOTE]Ah well, it looks like she's taken down her profile anyway. Thanks.

Anyone have a report on this one?

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/a540d2832b68bbb9[/URL]

Sadly I ditched my seeking account. Love to have a hubby watch. LOL.

[QUOTE=FlashLidar;7298120]That was a weird month on SA. Below is my list. Need to keep it fairly ambiguous since some of the simps on this forum report back to these women.

Cassandra. Sick relative. Wants money for help.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b69f42c0-1cad-4940-917a-fbf4320065ff[/URL]

Jessica. MILF but flaked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ed8ef9e-fffe-4ac5-a758-53519cd1720f[/URL]

Ari. Real. GPS. Expen $I've.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/86204111-b395-423b-9eba-2b47cafba5e4[/URL]

Emily. Wants two bills for meet and greet. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c5f1d901-94c1-4366-8599-ad6c0a32302e[/URL]

Vivian. Wants $1 K for video call to prove you're real. SMH. Hard pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a7e322e3-7c43-4e90-9337-ef0a6cb59354[/URL]

Jadoreme. Heavier than advertised.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e715d9c-4020-472f-b9bc-bcdb9815623c[/URL]

Blondeabroad. GPS and boring.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7c65696-605c-405e-b506-6a8051101a98[/URL]

Bella. Pic seller. Scammer vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce6bbb7b-8884-412f-950b-878b180e5b9e[/URL]

Sweetie. GPS. Wants money for meet and greet. Has a ton of rules and the most expensive of the lot.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb8860b2-f52b-4fbc-a0fc-bcf792cbcf42[/URL]

Kitty. Real but hubby wants to watch you rail his big busted wife.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e84c7127-8e1d-47e0-ab70-120358f8c395[/URL]

Jessica. Real. Kinda spendy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eba733e5-f17f-4cc0-9cd4-cac16ff0fe87[/URL]

Kerri. Pro vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bd7d491e-10dc-4198-a70e-c5f27999a3f3[/URL]

Stephanie. Pro vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34767e99-194b-4d2c-b60c-a4cab4ae70d3[/URL]

Elle. Real. Cool. Spendy but lives far from here.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/87dc79b6-e6d0-4ec9-839c-6ac309e07620[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7296553]New SLN girl, Pretty 27.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Prettybrowneyes/[/URL][/QUOTE]No smoke but she's cute, not pretty, yes there are beauty standards. Her pics are filtered so shell not be close to that IRL. At 27 those look like serious mommy tittes. If you like go for it. Just my opinion. We should call these girls like they really are. She's just ok. Not ugly at all. Diddy's ex is pretty.

[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7297560]Bros trying real hard to make SLN a thing LOL.[/QUOTE]Got to get on the blade. Ohhhh LOL.

This one wants $700 ppm. She hit me up and I thought I would see where it goes. Bit of a butter face but decent body. Thought it might be fun for $300 or so, especially if she's a good fuck. Moped out when she said $700, not even worth negotiating.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/171d93e0-47ef-4ffa-9952-ca4c9b865486[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7301054]This one wants $700 ppm. She hit me up and I thought I would see where it goes. Bit of a butter face but decent body. Thought it might be fun for $300 or so, especially if she's a good fuck. Moped out when she said $700, not even worth negotiating.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/171d93e0-47ef-4ffa-9952-ca4c9b865486[/URL][/QUOTE]Must be one that I did the same because I can't open the profile.

[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;7300928]No smoke but she's cute, not pretty, yes there are beauty standards. Her pics are filtered so shell not be close to that IRL. At 27 those look like serious mommy tittes. If you like go for it. Just my opinion. We should call these girls like they really are. She's just ok. Not ugly at all. Diddy's ex is pretty.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7294675]Yeah, some mothers do have them. I wonder if guys actually give her money for nothing (queue up Dire Straits). Or is she that naive that she thinks just being a woman talking to guys, guys are going to give her money. I agree with your point about building trust and the equation of FWB that is helped financially. Even though it's technically transactional, it's not a grind for them per se, so they're less likely to be jaded like hookers. It's just in that emotional sweet spot where it's not strictly physical, but also not strictly a relationship. It's in the middle, where both can get out when it's not working. At least that's what I imagine it should be like. I hope that makes sense.[/QUOTE]Great point and that how it should have or used to be. I will ask you to go on Reddit in the sugar lifestyle forum. I got kicked out for expressly telling every average women in there that their profile was ok but not special. Anyway, if you want to know what you're up against (simp aramada) and why this is increasingly hard to pull off, take a blind stroll through there. Bring a barf bag LOL. There are tons of thirsty lonely men that are throwing money at these women with only a txt in return. Yes, it's worse than we think sometimes! Most men have a lack mindset carving any chance at a females attention. How else does one explain the outlandish demands of below average women on SA and SB LOL. If you meet a new one that doesn't know the game, she'll lat until thirsty guy starts cashapping her money before a meet. It's competition I suppose and I'm losing. Haha. This has effectively become normal dating but the cash gives you access to younger girls maybe?. My current says she picked me because she likes my type of guy. She gets heaps of offers I actually can't beilyhow much she leaves, or says she leaves on the table. If I'm to believe her these are men with negative chances in the dating market, creeps she calls them. Unwashed, obese, crazy request and willing shell out serious cash. I get the impression that most of the fellas here could put a suit on andi mingle in the wild. I keep saying the games in its current form is dead, maybe not, but it's on a ventilator! You have to know who you're battling out here for these girls attention. Also, many of them are pimped by a BF or a mom (yes) don't kid yourself. I dunno hold your principals, and dry dick, till the simps go broke? I'm open to have my mind changed.

BTW going rate in Miami for a hottie under 25 is 5-1.5 k. LOL the older ones ask for more!! I kid you fucking not. They try believe their pussy is better with age and use. Haha and tell me social media is not a mind virus. Got a 6'0" Slim Athlete on deck in a couple of weeks in FL. That's light year in SB time so it's not a sure thing. Oh, lots of wealthy simps in Miami. Again the last one I had down there said she felt " attracted " to me. Well, fuck I could just go to the club then. Haha.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7301054]This one wants $700 ppm. She hit me up and I thought I would see where it goes. Bit of a butter face but decent body. Thought it might be fun for $300 or so, especially if she's a good fuck. Moped out when she said $700, not even worth negotiating.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/171d93e0-47ef-4ffa-9952-ca4c9b865486[/URL][/QUOTE]She quoted me $800 a month ago plus required monthly testing. Next.

New SLN Girl Jay777 25 Seattle.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Jay777/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7295431]I've seen her. She is a stripper in Seattle. Doesn't kiss and only does CFS.[/QUOTE]Where does she dance?

[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7305656]New SLN Girl Jay777 25 Seattle.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Jay777/[/URL][/QUOTE]Quit trying to make fetch happen.

Anyone been successful getting around a seeking ban? Seems that my name or something else related to payment method is stored so trying new cards hasn't worked.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7307300]Anyone been successful getting around a seeking ban? Seems that my name or something else related to payment method is stored so trying new cards hasn't worked.[/QUOTE]Use a different / new card that has never been associated with the site but don't use the name related to that card in the information field. You can use a fictitious name and it will still go through.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7307300]Anyone been successful getting around a seeking ban? Seems that my name or something else related to payment method is stored so trying new cards hasn't worked.[/QUOTE]Paying through google play store subscriptions worked for me.

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7307300]Anyone been successful getting around a seeking ban? Seems that my name or something else related to payment method is stored so trying new cards hasn't worked.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you're not using real physical (hard) cards. Always use virtual cards (cap one eno, Amex trade shift / extend, etc.) then you can use complement made up billing info.

[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7307348]Hopefully you're not using real physical (hard) cards. Always use virtual cards (cap one eno, Amex trade shift / extend, etc.) then you can use complement made up billing info.[/QUOTE]That works with physical cards too. I know because that's what I'm using now and fictitious billing info.

[QUOTE=PopItFank69;7307348]Hopefully you're not using real physical (hard) cards. Always use virtual cards (cap one eno, Amex trade shift / extend, etc.) then you can use complement made up billing info.[/QUOTE]I've used virtual cards but what is amex trade shift?

SLN Gril, Shea 19.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Shealuvs/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;7307455]I've used virtual cards but what is amex trade shift?[/QUOTE]Virtual cards for Amex business account but I think it's by invite only, however you can access the same thing using extend ([URL]paywithextend.com[/URL]). Just need an Amex business card.