Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Hidden120;3036580]Was offered FS for $$ from Tuesday dayshift. Nice to know that extras can be had here. Didn't have enough time today, but the girls here were much better looking than PH, PTs Classic, Roxy's or CRC that I've seen lately. I think I've found a new favorite club.[/QUOTE]That's pretty good news. That used to be the going rate at some of the better wash park clubs back in the day. Guess the bigger clubs are hurting too. This might be a great time to score some premium pussy at lower gas prices. Of course, I'm sure YMMV depending on who you talk to in that club.

Can you give us any clue as to the actual quality of the chick who offered, without actually diming my her out?

[QUOTE=DeadDead22;3037239]That's pretty good news. That used to be the going rate at some of the better wash park clubs back in the day. Guess the bigger clubs are hurting too. This might be a great time to score some premium pussy at lower gas prices. Of course, I'm sure YMMV depending on who you talk to in that club.

Can you give us any clue as to the actual quality of the chick who offered, without actually diming my her out?[/QUOTE]At least a 7, less than 30, wonderful body with maybe 5 to ten extra pounds. Of the 6 girls working she was a solid second place, and it was a damn good looking crew.

About 9 girls. All sitting by bar. Four guys all by them selves.

9 girls and the guys are not pursuing? I am headed there tomorrow to see what the choices are and go for one or two.

A thing to remember about Dollies is that along with being a strip club it is a bit of a "hang out" joint for long term club regulars and others. If a guy is sitting by himself at Dollies its most likely because he either wants to or that the girls know he's not going to spend any money with them.

My last visit to Dollies the place was slow and the girls weren't spending much time on the stages but I didn't have any difficulty finding some pleasant company. You may need be a little proactive and go up to the bar, make good eye contact with the one your interested in while you're ordering a drink, maybe say "hello" and then take it from there.

A few weeks ago, I basically said I didn't even know if Washington Park was worth the time. But I'm in the area on business, so I thought I'did take a peek. In case someone besides me didn't know, Cmowes was closed. I went to Dollies. This was late Saturday night. There was a $3 cover. There were probably 8 or 9 guys sitting at the bar. There was one black girl on stage- well, partially, since she was leaning back against a guy sitting at the stage, getting her tits rubbed. There were probably 6 more guys at tables. There were no other girls visible. Finally a girl came out one door, crossed the room and went in the dressing room. Then several other girls crisscrossed the room like that. No one stopped by a table. Finally, one of the guys said something to the manager. He went and yelled at the girls to get out of the dressing room and mingle with the customers. By that time I was disgusted and decided I didn't need to spend my money on that attitude and left. 2 other places weren't much better. An earlier commenter thought Washington Park was dying. Based on my experience, I can't argue with that. I first came here 30 years ago when a guy could barely get in the door before a girl was grabbing him and asking what she could do for him. Now I'm wondering why the girls work in Washington Park if they don't want money from the guys. An earlier commenter suggested that maybe girls wouldn't bother with single guys because they knew they couldn't make any money. But these girls tonight weren't mixing with anyone and weren't even in the bar most of the time.

I drove into WP before 10 last night. CMowes was open but not one car in the lot. Dollies had 8 girls dancing and they were working the stage but only one blonde had any takers for time behind the beads. After 2 beers I headed out for MK's. How this place has changed. 5 or 6 guys in there, 8 or 9 girls and one extremely annoying dj. Only one of the girls held my interest (Star) but not one girls was offering dances. All they wanted was drinks. Gone are the days of the WP hand shake as well. Of the 5 stage dances I had not one of them even got close to my package. 3 to 5 years ago that place was great to go to day or night but now?. Much of the girls are forgettable and nothing offered at all.

These reports are so true. A few years ago you could go into Washington Park and spend a day hitting clubs and they were all packed. What is it going to take to make Washington Park fun again. Are there any clubs left on the East Side that are interested in providing fun? If anyone has any stories that are worth while about Washington Park I will start going there with some money, report back and then we can all go there.

I've always went when day shift is working. But always left happy. Maybe the evening shift is different will have to go sometime and see.

My experience at Dollies during night shift has been hit or miss. The other night I went in there and had a good time with Unique, not the blonde hottie one but a different girl using that name now. There were several other girls who I could've had fun with as well such as Beauty, Bunny and Ashley though Ashley seemed preoccupied with some other things so I just took a chance on Unique. The girls were all out at the bar and one was on stage. There have been other nights were it was as someone else described with the girls spending all their time in the back. Part of it I think could be timing, I'm thinking some of these girls make some money earlier in the shift and then they just hangout till its time to go home.

Actually I've hardly ever struck out at Dollies its just that some times you have to have some patience and others you have to be more proactive to get what you want.

Like my screen name indicates, I used to enjoy this place. But, the last couple of trips down, stopping by at 3-4 in the afternoon (prefer the day shift ladies), there's maybe 2-3 cars in the parking lot.

Too many times over the years I've been the only guy in the place, it's just not enjoyable. Like other have mentioned about the "good old days", what's it going to take to make these places busy again?

MK Fan.

[QUOTE=PeterLong;3042771]These reports are so true. .... Are there any clubs left on the East Side that are interested in providing fun?....[/QUOTE]Yes, the joy of visiting the East Side has been diminishing since sometime in the 1990's.

- The internet provides more free images and videos of women with no clothes, no need to go out or pay money to see them.

- Women often use the internet to contact guys with money, not as much need to do that in person.

- People are becoming more risk-averse. The news media love to sell their product by scaring people and it makes the area less attractive for both dancers and customers.

- People of all sexes are fatter and less active. We see that in clubs as well as elsewhere.

- Strip clubs are given a politically incorrect and unsavory image on TV. They are featured in TV episodes every night, usually with gorgeous women writhing about, gangsters lurking nearby, and crime or desperation almost always the theme. Truth is the women are not usually gorgeous, the guys you see don't often look like thugs, and crime, if present, is seldom readily visible. I don't know how drug use or selling compares to similar ordinary bars without stripping, but I doubt it's all that different. Complaints here say that the "dancers" don't dance and are bored, not desperate at all.

- Even more so than in the past, it's fashionable and politically correct for women to show off their bodies almost anyplace (I found myself following a pair of spike heels and an extremely short, swishing skirt through the kitchen section of a big box store last week) but not politically correct for guys to want to go someplace just to ogle. For both, it reduces the incentive to be in strip clubs.

- This is mostly a matter of personal taste. Used to be when a dancer took off her clothes you saw a dancer with few or no clothes. Now you may see purple dyed hair, hardware in tender places, and "art" almost anywhere. Point is that few guys will fail to tip a very attractive dancer stageside because she doesn't have tattoos or nipple rings, but some will object to such "decorations" and fail to come up and tip, and it diminishes the customer's desire to come back and see more "decorations". But try and tell the dancer that you are not tipping because of such things and your rep in the dressing room and mileage for the rest of the visit will hit bottom instantly, I suspect.

I have some extremely fond memories of experiences in East Side clubs but those kind of experiences have tapered way off in recent years. (Also have some memories of dumb mistakes and poorly invested cash and time; that's called live, learn, and Read The Friendly Boards.).

John.

[QUOTE=Hidden120;3036580]Was offered FS for $$ from Tuesday dayshift. Nice to know that extras can be had here. Didn't have enough time today, but the girls here were much better looking than PH, PTs Classic, Roxy's or CRC that I've seen lately. I think I've found a new favorite club.[/QUOTE]Did your dancer offer you the FS for $$ in the regular lap dance / bed dance rooms, or in the so-called "Millionaire's Suites," which are those small cubicles with frosted glass doors located across from the bar.

[QUOTE=JohnBTipton;3049766]Yes, the joy of visiting the East Side has been diminishing since sometime in the 1990's.

- The internet provides more free images and videos of women with no clothes, no need to go out or pay money to see them.

- Women often use the internet to contact guys with money, not as much need to do that in person.

- People are becoming more risk-averse. The news media love to sell their product by scaring people and it makes the area less attractive for both dancers and customers.

- People of all sexes are fatter and less active. We see that in clubs as well as elsewhere.

- Strip clubs are given a politically incorrect and unsavory image on TV. They are featured in TV episodes every night, usually with gorgeous women writhing about, gangsters lurking nearby, and crime or desperation almost always the theme. Truth is the women are not usually gorgeous, the guys you see don't often look like thugs, and crime, if present, is seldom readily visible. I don't know how drug use or selling compares to similar ordinary bars without stripping, but I doubt it's all that different. Complaints here say that the "dancers" don't dance and are bored, not desperate at all.

- Even more so than in the past, it's fashionable and politically correct for women to show off their bodies almost anyplace (I found myself following a pair of spike heels and an extremely short, swishing skirt through the kitchen section of a big box store last week) but not politically correct for guys to want to go someplace just to ogle. For both, it reduces the incentive to be in strip clubs.

- This is mostly a matter of personal taste. Used to be when a dancer took off her clothes you saw a dancer with few or no clothes. Now you may see purple dyed hair, hardware in tender places, and "art" almost anywhere. Point is that few guys will fail to tip a very attractive dancer stageside because she doesn't have tattoos or nipple rings, but some will object to such "decorations" and fail to come up and tip, and it diminishes the customer's desire to come back and see more "decorations". But try and tell the dancer that you are not tipping because of such things and your rep in the dressing room and mileage for the rest of the visit will hit bottom instantly, I suspect.

I have some extremely fond memories of experiences in East Side clubs but those kind of experiences have tapered way off in recent years. (Also have some memories of dumb mistakes and poorly invested cash and time; that's called live, learn, and Read The Friendly Boards.).

John.[/QUOTE]Great post.

Add to that the pathetic state of the economy. Missouri is ranked I think 47th in terms of economic growth. And the clubs are after $100 for 5-15 minutes on a filthy couch in a nasty back room most would prefer to not be in + whatever the girl wants for her effort. In most cases this puts the cost as high or higher than a half hour to an hour in a nice hotel room.

Times are changing. If the clubs hope to survive they're going to have to adapt. High covers, stupid expensive drinks, and exorbitant VIP back room private prices will need to change to a volume price. It's become far easier to research and set up a $200-300 premium escort than it used to be. The price point for a club quickie has to change for them to survive. Volume will need to make up for it. Otherwise, BP and other venues will put them out of the fleecing the customer (and dancer) biz.

Sorry, posted to Wash Park, having forgotten about Brooklyn page.

O314.