Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

Speaking of lousy experience and high donations for time. I asked Diamond_Doit about her menu and was told all covered and no skin to skin which includes no kissing. Her hour donation is 600 !

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/sexy-smart-talented%F0%9F%A5%B0your-dream-girl-awaits%F0%9F%91%91360-518-1792%F0%9F%92%8Esensual-company%E2%9C%A8.2978921/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BackInSea;7175571]These h**s are not just lazy with an over-inflated sense of entitlement, but it's the simps that allow them to be this way. They don't need to provide return specials because the simps will always return. You also have to remember that a lot of these h**es can rely on their simp customers to continue to pay $500 for a semi-attractive girl giving them the time of day but with lousy service.

The hoflation is based mainly on 2 things: 1) simps continuing to supply the demand for lousy service for exorbitant prices and 2) reviews not being reliable anymore aka the mods taking away credibility and accountability. Because providers can get negative reviews removed and can get their band of simps to give bad rep points, I think a lot of legit hobbyists don't find it worth it anymore to provide REAL reviews. If the mods actually were unbiased, hoflation would decrease because the actual, reliable hobbyists would provide real reviews that would make the simps have no credibility and these lazy-ass h**s would have to up their game, make their rate actually on par with their services, and / or make them get out of TNA and go to a site like STG or listcrawler where they belong.

The mods have essentially ruined the hobby.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7176082]Speaking of lousy experience and high donations for time. I asked Diamond_Doit about her menu and was told all covered and no skin to skin which includes no kissing. Her hour donation is 600 !

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/sexy-smart-talented%F0%9F%A5%B0your-dream-girl-awaits%F0%9F%91%91360-518-1792%F0%9F%92%8Esensual-company%E2%9C%A8.2978921/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've found that most pros under 25 are just hard to deal with and limit service. To many "no's" for me to waste time and currency. IMO.

Just a silly observation but For those of us who have been around for a while, isn't it interesting to watch some of these providers gained weight over the years?

I know it can be just a natural process of aging for women, but but sometimes when I see these girls getting bigger and clearly not living a healthy lifestyle, I just want to scream at them "Stop eating!

I saw liliththevixen years ago and she was a tiny spinner with ads. Look at her latest ad.

I followed brandybaby253 on Snapchat and she just keeps getting bigger, post kid. Look at her early photos. She was an absolute stunner at one time.

Anyway, which hookers do you wish would have stayed in shape?

[QUOTE=BackInSea;7175571]These h**s are not just lazy with an over-inflated sense of entitlement, but it's the simps that allow them to be this way. They don't need to provide return specials because the simps will always return. You also have to remember that a lot of these h**es can rely on their simp customers to continue to pay $500 for a semi-attractive girl giving them the time of day but with lousy service.

The hoflation is based mainly on 2 things: 1) simps continuing to supply the demand for lousy service for exorbitant prices and 2) reviews not being reliable anymore aka the mods taking away credibility and accountability. Because providers can get negative reviews removed and can get their band of simps to give bad rep points, I think a lot of legit hobbyists don't find it worth it anymore to provide REAL reviews. If the mods actually were unbiased, hoflation would decrease because the actual, reliable hobbyists would provide real reviews that would make the simps have no credibility and these lazy-ass h**s would have to up their game, make their rate actually on par with their services, and / or make them get out of TNA and go to a site like STG or listcrawler where they belong.

The mods have essentially ruined the hobby.[/QUOTE]It's a problem from both sides. There are certainly some women on TER and other places asking for way too much considering their quality of service, age, and level of attractiveness but hobbyists are the biggest factor for "hoeflation," not simps. According to basically every provider board I have seen and the women I have spoke to, the rates were raised to keep hobbyists away for a slew of problematic behaviors and attitudes.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7176082]Speaking of lousy experience and high donations for time. I asked Diamond_Doit about her menu and was told all covered and no skin to skin which includes no kissing. Her hour donation is 600 !

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/sexy-smart-talented%F0%9F%A5%B0your-dream-girl-awaits%F0%9F%91%91360-518-1792%F0%9F%92%8Esensual-company%E2%9C%A8.2978921/[/URL][/QUOTE]Sad to say, that's the Seattle standard these days. My dream girl? My ass.

And yet, she probably has customers lining up to pay her, plus upcharges of course.

Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.

[QUOTE=Massaji;7179812]Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.[/QUOTE]Who? So I can avoid. One named here lately with that bs is Ashley Rae.

[QUOTE=Massaji;7179812]Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.[/QUOTE]I'm not getting begged for money, but I am getting "come see me" "come fuck me".

I'm pretty sure the females that ask for prepayments get off on the thought of getting free money knowing they won't honor their word.

Also, I don't understand. If they are not getting business then why they are not making it easier for guys to see them? They could have less draconian screening rules (come on, they ask to send them a photo of your id) Or they could do specials or they could do outcalls just to give some examples.
I just got my appointment canceled without even an attempt to reschedule.

[QUOTE=Massaji;7179812]Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.[/QUOTE]

I've had this happen quite a bit. The worst was about three years ago when I met a hot young tiny spinner and she did everything I wanted but for a little extra $$$ (I like it bare). Was actually a good no-rushed date. The second time she hit me up and I agreed to meet, when I got to her room she literally said, "you got 10 minutes". 10 minutes, what the hell? We had a pretty serious argument over that one. Wasn't even worth the drive over. Then she started contacting me and asking for Uber rides, groceries, all that stuff. I got pissed and really let her have it. I asked her why her pimp wasn't taking care of that stuff, LOL. So, I started contacting her and asking if she'd see me for our usual date for less than $100. I told her that I saw her just standing there on the street, if she weren't doing anything she might as well make even just [I]some[/I] money, right? Money is money afterall. And hey, If she could ask me to just buy her stuff for nothing in return then I could certainly ask her for a deep discount whenever I wanted. Fair is fair. She did stop contacting me pretty quickly.

A couple of other gals contact me and do the "I need your help. Are you around?". Unless there is a discount offered I don't usually respond to those.

[QUOTE=Massaji;7179812]Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7180185]I'm pretty sure the females that ask for prepayments get off on the thought of getting free money knowing they won't honor their word.

Also, I don't understand. If they are not getting business then why they are not making it easier for guys to see them? They could have less draconian screening rules (come on, they ask to send them a photo of your id) Or they could do specials or they could do outcalls just to give some examples.
I just got my appointment canceled without even an attempt to reschedule.[/QUOTE]There are many, many things they could do to improve both service and client retention.

Unfortunately, they are not about to do anything but less. For more. How some of them have any customers at all is completely beyond me. The classically defined prostitute is all but extinct it seems.

Bit of read but on the first page CompanionEstella tries to explain how it so hard to be profitable in Seattle as an independent. Then there is some back and forth on pricing is too high for hobbyists.

But as for CE, did you think that the reason your not getting as many clients is because your asking 600 an hr!

I still would not see her, not my type but 600 is an auto pass for me. Not to mention, way hotter girls in town are asking 500. Read the room! Lower your prices.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/what-happened-to-local-girls.2979334/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RocketMan3;7180853]Bit of read but on the first page CompanionEstella tries to explain how it so hard to be profitable in Seattle as an independent. Then there is some back and forth on pricing is too high for hobbyists.

But as for CE, did you think that the reason your not getting as many clients is because your asking 600 an hr!

I still would not see her, not my type but 600 is an auto pass for me. Not to mention, way hotter girls in town are asking 500. Read the room! Lower your prices.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/what-happened-to-local-girls.2979334/[/URL][/QUOTE]She has been around quite a while and has always been like this. Always provided minimal service. Always pricing herself 100-300 above the rest. Always complaining about hobbyists and lack of business. I don't know how she has ever had any business at all.

[QUOTE=RocketMan3;7180853]Bit of read but on the first page CompanionEstella tries to explain how it so hard to be profitable in Seattle as an independent. Then there is some back and forth on pricing is too high for hobbyists.

But as for CE, did you think that the reason your not getting as many clients is because your asking 600 an hr!

I still would not see her, not my type but 600 is an auto pass for me. Not to mention, way hotter girls in town are asking 500. Read the room! Lower your prices.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/what-happened-to-local-girls.2979334/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wanker23;7181384]She has been around quite a while and has always been like this. Always provided minimal service. Always pricing herself 100-300 above the rest. Always complaining about hobbyists and lack of business. I don't know how she has ever had any business at all.[/QUOTE]Estella is a prime example of not-good-at-anything-except-being-a-wh**e. Estella has been around for a very long time and, like Clara Turing, they act like they know everything about the hobby and are very "upscale," but they fail in life and can't do anything except get turned out. For someone who prides herself on being educated and having such a high opinion about herself, she will always end up being a wh**e. You would think that someone like her would've snagged a sugar daddy by now, but who the fuck would want to spend time with a stuck up wh**e like her? Sure, she'll claim how she's independent and doesn't need a man to take care of her, but I think everyone on the board who has ever interacted with her will agree that no one would want to be around her for over an hour.

Jeez, even AMP girls eventually get out of the hobby.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;7181565]Estella is a prime example of not-good-at-anything-except-being-a-wh**e. Estella has been around for a very long time and, like Clara Turing, they act like they know everything about the hobby and are very "upscale," but they fail in life and can't do anything except get turned out. For someone who prides herself on being educated and having such a high opinion about herself, she will always end up being a wh**e. You would think that someone like her would've snagged a sugar daddy by now, but who the fuck would want to spend time with a stuck up wh**e like her? Sure, she'll claim how she's independent and doesn't need a man to take care of her, but I think everyone on the board who has ever interacted with her will agree that no one would want to be around her for over an hour.

Jeez, even AMP girls eventually get out of the hobby.[/QUOTE]Estella is essentially the somewhat easier to tolerate kid-sister version of Lauren Riley, who thankfully unfurled her leathery wings and flew away from the Pacific Northwest years ago.