Why now? IMHO Dunkin is picking at straws or getting extra vigilant by popping F. O. I'm sure they already knew these ladies were the nicer ones and had left them alone for a long time. Why now? Maybe time for a little extra caution and discretion.
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Why now? IMHO Dunkin is picking at straws or getting extra vigilant by popping F. O. I'm sure they already knew these ladies were the nicer ones and had left them alone for a long time. Why now? Maybe time for a little extra caution and discretion.
[QUOTE=BackJack;1546379]This just makes no fxing sense? Think we have a gentleman not to trust![/QUOTE]LOL! BackJack. You sure you comprehend ehat you read correctly?
And to validate my posting aside from the nonsense. I'm seeking a recommendation on a legit messeuse. My go to girl has abandonded maintsining here pantyline, might have pocketed a little extra coin during on of my last visits and simply creeps me out.
I hate soft touch, prefer deep tissue sports style massage, a girl that makes you feel tenderized by the time you get up from the table. Pro or non pro, open minded preferred but not necessary. Public advice is cool. PM's are better.
If Dunkin has visited a place, It make no sense to "VISIT THEM MORE OFTEN". I would run like hell. What can you help them with? Please explain I am dense at times?
[QUOTE=Gruglok; 1546626]LOL! BackJack. You sure you comprehend ehat you read correctly?
And to validate my posting aside from the nonsense. I'm seeking a recommendation on a legit messeuse. My go to girl has abandonded maintsining here pantyline, might have pocketed a little extra coin during on of my last visits and simply creeps me out.
I hate soft touch, prefer deep tissue sports style massage, a girl that makes you feel tenderized by the time you get up from the table. Pro or non pro, open minded preferred but not necessary. Public advice is cool. PM's are better.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BackJack;1546704]If Dunkin has visited a place, It make no sense to "VISIT THEM MORE OFTEN". I would run like hell. What can you help them with? Please explain I am dense at times?[/QUOTE]In this hobby you need to operate within your comfort zone. If you don't want to support them don't. It's a personal choice that nobody should have a problem with just as you shouldn't have an issue with someone who does want to help them out. I've known the ladies for quite some time. They have treated me well with numerous quality massages and I simply feel compelled to help them out when they need it. I don't see a lot of risk associated with it if you are smart in your approach.
This issue has run its course and we need to move on before the thread gets further off topic.
Happy, and safe, hunting everyone.
Went to my old fav, AMP last week. Its been a while since the last time I went didn't go because lackluster service. But went in, paid the door fee. Was led by the hand to my room told me to undress. TS could have been better seemed to rush because another client came in, but on the flip cleaned the boys nice and slow.
She dried me off. Led me to my room. I laid down while she left and came back. Massage was great hit all the right places.
On the flip she lifted up her shirt and bra, she bent over left me suck on her soft tities, and rub the kitty under shorts over panties. She also left me kiss up and down her
Neck.
I didn't catch her name, but I hope I see her again!
I guess with recent events, I can't see "Kelly" anymore :/damn and I like that Asian kitty.
I was out on that side of town and wanting a massage. The choices were Hong Kong (formally OS) or Royal. I know that for years the reports have said no luck at royal. However, I decided to look at the ads on my phone. Royal said they had a table shower. Even though OS had one Hong Kong's ad said nothing about it. Also Royal had an early bird special for $55 an Hour advertised so I decided to take my chances with Royal.
Went into royal and asked about the $55 special. The girl on the front desk had to go check and whoever it was said yes. Gave her 60, she said she would have to bring change later. OK.
Was taken back to the room and told to get undressed. So I did and got on the table and did not put on the drape (normal method).
When the girl came back in the room she immediately covered me. I thought, Oh well this is just goingto be a normal massage.
Well she rubed me through the towel for about 5-10 minutes. This girl was 90% coverd so it was real hard to do any "accidental" touching. Only the last 8 inches or so of her leg were exposed and finally I did have the chance to lightly rub her. About that time the drape came off and the massage started. A few minutes later, I fell asleep and started dreaming about the really nice massage that Mary was giving me. Too much time on the back for my liking but otherwise nice. Soon I started dreaming about her brushing the boys and it got better from there. When it was time for the flip, I fell into a deep dream state and dreamt that I had one of the best HJ's ever at an AMP. Mary is very skilled. In my dream there were no negotiations.
I paid. 55 house fee left her. 40 and never got my. 05 change so total damage for a full hour $.
After I woke I realized a couple of downsides. 1, no table shower, what I really went in there for. 2, really, really greasy afterwards.
Ukieman out
What really sucks and these girls need to learn how to be more discreet.
The last time I was there and pulled Mimi she took my money and walked me back and showed me the room and with out any sort of LE check or conversation she grabbed my johnson through my shorts. This type of behavior will get you busted every time. I reported the experience and will never go back to her, but if all of them act this way, they are going to get shut down.
Just a thought.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=TRowePrice;1548110]I guess with recent events, I can't see "Kelly" anymore :/damn and I like that Asian kitty.[/QUOTE]
Like others, I enjoyed every appt w jorgette. God rest her soul. So now I need to find a lmt that's just as skilled. Visited her sister once, great appt; does she still do appts. Unfortunately, I lost her phone. If anyone has it, would greatly appreciate sharing. Any other lmt's and Dr Phillips, southwest Orlando?
Thanks for any info.
Yay.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/unforgettable-nikki-blonde-and-gorgeous-25/6280178[/url]
[QUOTE=ViciousCycle;1546264]Always thought Lilly had bolt-ons. I could be wrong though[/QUOTE]I could be mistaken, but I spent a lot of time performing my examination! May need to re-examine again soon.
[QUOTE=Bjceb; 1548689]What really sucks and these girls need to learn how to be more discreet.
The last time I was there and pulled Mimi she took my money and walked me back and showed me the room and with out any sort of LE check or conversation she grabbed my johnson through my shorts. This type of behavior will get you busted every time. I reported the experience and will never go back to her, but if all of them act this way, they are going to get shut down.
Just a thought.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]So much for the reports by some who commented how "cautious" they were. LEO doesn't have to read this board to make a bust, contrary to angry opinions expressed here.
Yeah her rubs have been lackluster in the past but she is really, really fucking hot. May have to try one more time just in case she's loosened up. I've heard she went through a few things that may have helped her mature.
[QUOTE=Gruglok; 1548892]Yay.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/unforgettable-nikki-blonde-and-gorgeous-25/6280178[/url][/QUOTE]
Since I live in Altamonte, I rarely, if ever, get to Kissimmee. I have almost always gone to Island (Magic) and the other AMP's and this area. However, since I will be there tomorrow, which AMP is the best to visit. I am more interested in a varied menu than the quality of the massage. You can PM me with details if you prefer.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Hotrodvfr;1549741]Yeah her rubs have been lackluster in the past but she is really, really fucking hot. May have to try one more time just in case she's loosened up. I've heard she went through a few things that may have helped her mature.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree with this, I wish she was a performer like her former boss Joan. This chick is one of the baddest bitches around, too bad she isn't into it. Also I called her yesterday and she said she is currently only offering 80 for half hour only, not sure if it was just for that day.
[url]http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/sep/20/namaino1-massage-therapist-suspensions-tied-to-hum-ar-506774/[/url]
The human trafficking aspect is worthy of a crack down if it is legitimate but I've watched it used against AMPs in Alabama, Ohio and Rhode Island and it just generally wasn't the case there based on the conversation on this Board in those Forums. Perhaps in larger metro areas. It isn't something found to any degree that I've heard of from the girls I know in Florida. It looks like the licensing scam is being blown out of proportion to include trafficking to score points in an election year.
Let's hope the license issue doesn't impact too many of our Orlando ladies. This type of crack down will make it more difficult for the shops to find girls who are willing to work in Florida due to the harassment factor.
[QUOTE=Overboard; 1550030][url]http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/sep/20/namaino1-massage-therapist-suspensions-tied-to-hum-ar-506774/[/url]
The human trafficking aspect is worthy of a crack down if it is legitimate but I've watched it used against AMPs in Alabama, Ohio and Rhode Island and it just generally wasn't the case there based on the conversation on this Board in those Forums. Perhaps in larger metro areas. It isn't something found to any degree that I've heard of from the girls I know in Florida. It looks like the licensing scam is being blown out of proportion to include trafficking to score points in an election year.
Let's hope the license issue doesn't impact too many of our Orlando ladies. This type of crack down will make it more difficult for the shops to find girls who are willing to work in Florida due to the harassment factor.[/QUOTE]This is the last paragraph of the article. :"If you want to break the law, if you want to prey on the vulnerable, if you are in any way in the business of human trafficking, you do not want to do it in Florida," Scott said."Our justice system here is thorough and swift."
Ah yes "Thorough and swift" 10-12 years ago there were no AMP's in Orlando and I presume Tampa now they are everywhere. The brilliant government blo-hards just discovered NOW, that these Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese women who can't speak English didn't really study and pass a written massage exam. WOW. PBWARDY02 reported the selling of massage licences on this board years ago. Amazing how these things get "discovered" in election years.
I would advise all the "Body rub girls" to read the law because I have a feeling you ladies are next. If you want to rub skin you need a massage license and don't think your "disclaimers" will relieve you of anything. Be very afraid if you don't have a massage license as you have a giant bullseye on your back-VS
[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1550111]This is the last paragraph of the article. :"If you want to break the law, if you want to prey on the vulnerable, if you are in any way in the business of human trafficking, you do not want to do it in Florida," Scott said."Our justice system here is thorough and swift."
Ah yes "Thorough and swift" 10-12 years ago there were no AMP's in Orlando and I presume Tampa now they are everywhere. The brilliant government blo-hards just discovered NOW, that these Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese women who can't speak English didn't really study and pass a written massage exam. WOW. PBWARDY02 reported the selling of massage licences on this board years ago. Amazing how these things get "discovered" in election years.
I would advise all the "Body rub girls" to read the law because I have a feeling you ladies are next. If you want to rub skin you need a massage license and don't think your "disclaimers" will relieve you of anything. Be very afraid if you don't have a massage license as you have a giant bullseye on your back-VS[/QUOTE]Gees! I honor your number of uour posts, but is there a need to tell all the little asian ladies about a bulleye on their backs, reading the law, and getting licensed? Did you calibrate your laser site today? Check a license before your last rub and tug? Too much caffeine today Bro.
Don't waste your time. I used to go there all the time and see a particular girl who let me have great mileage. I stopped and asked for my atf but she wasn't working. I decided I might get the mileage but I will have a good time. Wrong. First the cute girl undresses me and gives me the table shower. Then leads me into room and plants me face down. She leaves and I hear the door open and the girl I think is giving the massage starts out slowly. It isn't till I open my eyes and look down that its a different girl. It's not even a girl. It's an old lady. I was steamed. I didn't even leave a tip. I will never go back there. I guess I will start going to Sunshine like everyone else.
[QUOTE=Awesome Balls;1549602]So much for the reports by some who commented how "cautious" they were. LEO doesn't have to read this board to make a bust, contrary to angry opinions expressed here.[/QUOTE]I have said that several times in the past but they don't listen.
[QUOTE=Overboard; 1550030][url]http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/sep/20/namaino1-massage-therapist-suspensions-tied-to-hum-ar-506774/[/url]
The human trafficking aspect is worthy of a crack down if it is legitimate but I've watched it used against AMPs in Alabama, Ohio and Rhode Island and it just generally wasn't the case there based on the conversation on this Board in those Forums. Perhaps in larger metro areas. It isn't something found to any degree that I've heard of from the girls I know in Florida. It looks like the licensing scam is being blown out of proportion to include trafficking to score points in an election year.
Let's hope the license issue doesn't impact too many of our Orlando ladies. This type of crack down will make it more difficult for the shops to find girls who are willing to work in Florida due to the harassment factor.[/QUOTE]I hate to say I told the board so! Back in May I posted about this new law. This law went into effect 7/1/2012.
[QUOTE=Loving302; 1549758]Since I live in Altamonte, I rarely, if ever, get to Kissimmee. I have almost always gone to Island (Magic) and the other AMP's and this area. However, since I will be there tomorrow, which AMP is the best to visit. I am more interested in a varied menu than the quality of the massage. You can PM me with details if you prefer.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Sunshine.
Be safe.
[QUOTE=TheeeGentleman;1550138]Gees! I honor your number of uour posts, but is there a need to tell all the little asian ladies about a bulleye on their backs, reading the law, and getting licensed? Did you calibrate your laser site today? Check a license before your last rub and tug? Too much caffeine today Bro.[/QUOTE]You might be the one with too much caffeine. VS was referring to the providers that advertise they provide body rubs and not massages in the hope that the language used (I. E. Bodyrub) will keep them out of trouble for not having a massage license. I thought his point was very clear and it wasn't directed at the asian ladies. This is a tactic more commonly used by other ethnicities.
[QUOTE=Barolo;1550221]I have said that several times in the past but they don't listen.[/QUOTE]They read it.
It is a useful tool for them.
It its not used as "evidence," but as an indicator to where they may direct their attention with the most impact.
[QUOTE=Overboard;1550404]You might be the one with too much caffeine. VS was referring to the providers that advertise they provide body rubs and not massages in the hope that the language used (I. E. Bodyrub) will keep them out of trouble for not having a massage license. I thought his point was very clear and it wasn't directed at the asian ladies. This is a tactic more commonly used by other ethnicities.[/QUOTE]You are correct, he was directing it to body rub girls, and they are generally not asian. The bullseye on back drama is still unneeded, and doesn't help anyone here. For every one arrested there are 50 not arrested. For every one that leaves the business there are 5 to take their place. It's the oldest profession, and creating fear of arrest with "bullseye on your back" bullshit is Dunkins job. Generating drama is not a good attribute for a man. Should the bodyrub girls get licensed? If they get caught playing "yanky the wanky" their license is gone, along with the time and money it took to obtain it."Practice common sense, not senseless drama".
[QUOTE=TheeeGentleman;1550498]You are correct, he was directing it to body rub girls, and they are generally not asian. The bullseye on back drama is still unneeded, and doesn't help anyone here. For every one arrested there are 50 not arrested. For every one that leaves the business there are 5 to take their place. It's the oldest profession, and creating fear of arrest with "bullseye on your back" bullshit is Dunkins job. Generating drama is not a good attribute for a man. Should the bodyrub girls get licensed? If they get caught playing "yanky the wanky" their license is gone, along with the time and money it took to obtain it."Practice common sense, not senseless drama".[/QUOTE]I just post the facts pal, how you perceive them is strictly up to you. You have no idea how many of my "predictions" have come true. I didn't post that information for you. You get caught posting something stupid so you try and turn it back on me. Put me on your ignore list if you don't like what I say. Blather is blather. E. O. S.
Here is the number one truth in this game and you nor anyone else can dispute it: If anyone who plays this game learns and practices all and I mean all of the fairly simple rules at all times, the chance of getting caught are literally zero. The really smart girls use the same routines every time, no exceptions. The referees and umpires know the rules A. K. A, LEO, so the boys and girls need to know all the rules as well.
The desperate and the addicted increase their odds exponentially, I'm not talking to them, I'm reminding the good and decent women to extra careful at the present time and use every tool available to you.
If any of you ladies are unsure of yourself, pm me and I'll teach you surefire ways to avoid getting arrested that I guarantee you don't know. I might even train you over lunch if you're lucky. LOL-VS
Serious guys you remind me of the girls on junior high that would argue who bra size is bigger. This is a BOARD FOR PEOPLE THAT want to GIVE OR READ REVIEWS.
All said and done.
I went to the old Golden Dragon on OBT and Deerfeild yesterday for the special they have. 6 for a hour and free TS. When I went in the lady who greeted me asked for. 9 when I mentioned to her about the special she said let me see if that is still going on. She goes in for about 10 min and comes back and takes me. 6.
Once in the room some older female name mia or mya (not the same MIA who used to be there) comes in wearing Tennis outfit she tried to go st8 to the massage but I asked about the TS where her facial expression was like FML. TS was not the good and did not even get close to the boys.
Once in the room she gave me a good massage although she put a little 2 much oil which I do not like. On the flip worked my uper shoulders and thighs then when I tried to roam she would push my hands away thats when I said FML.
With about 20 min to go she asked if I wanted Mini Me touched where I said YES she said ok. 8 I said go fuck your self she said ok. 6 we went back and forth and till I drop her to. 4 if her attitude was better I would have no problem giving her. 5 or. 6 but she had a shitty attitude.
Worst HJ ever. I miss the old MIA who was a lot younger and YES she used to be hard to bargain with but she used to be the best when it came to HJ.
Total the massage was a 8.
And the SERVICE was a 4
I agree TopGun, this board has wayyyy too much infighting. Lets just stick with reviews, instead of filling it up with BS.
On that note, I just saw Rachael [url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ravishing-rachaels-rubs-36/7027441[/url], not sure if those pics are her but it's a somewhat accurate view, problem is she looks a tad older. She did make up for the subpar looks with a great performance, minus a very small amount of upsale.
A while ago I asked if all the Kissimme AMPs around vineland and irlo bronson had similar service to Sunshine (Congo). I didn't get a response, but I've been doing my own research.
T & C Spa 2932 Vineland road.
I've driven by this place several times lately. It's right next to a Hookah bar and there are tons of men sitting on the sidewalks at all hours of the day, or so it seems. I really didn't want to walk by the guys. During my last drive through the parking lot, it was raining cats and dogs, and there were 10-15 guys sitting on the sidewalk. I figure if they are still there in broad daylight in a rain storm, they are always going to be there. I just went on in, and it sounds like they were yelling stuff at me in a foreign language as I walked in.
On the inside, the girl was young (probably 25) ugly and quite overweight. I opted for the 30 minute session and just TOFTT. I did not want any extras from this girl and was trying to mentally keep track of time during the session. It could not be over fast enough. During the session, it felt like she was driving her elbows into my back as hard as she could-it was really bad. She also massaged my inner thighs and I was wondering where it was going. On the flip absolutely no extras (even HJ) were offered. I was fine with that and left. As I changed, I did leave a $10 tip on the table just because I thought it was polite. As I left, she was bugging me for a tip. I told her there was one on the table and I left.
AGG Spa 5299 W Irlo Bronson.
This place was a little better. The girl was very cute, but a bit older. I would guess she was around 40, but very cute and fit. She wore one of those tennis-style outfits. She asked me if I had been there before. I opted for the 30 minute session here and asked that the table shower come at the end. The session was good. She gave a nice, firm massage, with some teasing. On the flip she offered a HJ with roaming. Nothing else seemed to be on the menu, but I would think more could be available in the future. The table shower was nice and thorough. The girl had a really fantastic attitude.
So I haven't found any service around that area as good as Sunshine. Bodyworks and T&C were both jokes-a total waste of money. AGG was OK.
Stay Safe
Had a good time at the 5 Star Massage place in Fern Park. Kind of an oddball place inside, but awesome service from the lady I was given.
I was actually on my way to try out Shen Spa after driving by FO and seeing the place was packed. Spotted the little place and decided what the hell. 30/60 Prices are higher than average 70/90, but I left calm as a buddhist monk.
Saw an ad for a new spa called Ichiban at Kirkman and I-drive. Looking at the map, it appears to be in the same location as ASSA. Not sure if it's a new spot or just changed names. I've had good times and mediocre times as ASSA through the years, but haven't been there in quite awhile. Anyone have any intel?
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/and9608-and9733-we-are-the-best-ichiban-young-new407-730-3259/7007651[/url]
Saw this Kissimmee-based lady last week based on recomm here. Advertises under BP Massage. Pics are accurate. She is a good-looking latina, not too talkative and gives a very good massage. The oil was a bit too much for my liking but the rest was great, including the end. Neighborhood is a bit sketchy but her place was clean and comfortable with a dedicated masssage room. .9 / hr with a. 3 grat.
[QUOTE=EndGame;1552945]Saw this Kissimmee-based lady last week based on recomm here. Advertises under BP Massage. Pics are accurate. She is a good-looking latina, not too talkative and gives a very good massage. The oil was a bit too much for my liking but the rest was great, including the end. Neighborhood is a bit sketchy but her place was clean and comfortable with a dedicated masssage room. .9 / hr with a. 3 grat.[/QUOTE]Just wondering. Was a shower available to get the oils off afterwards or did you get tio drive home with greased up socks?
Don't waste your time with this one. This report is late, sorry. Since then she has changed her name on her posts. I am sure she is offerring the same "crappy" serivice.
She is not the one in the pictures. The only was to describe her is fugly.
She is staying in a crappy hotel by UCF with her boyfriend.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/incall-and-outcall-specials-full-nude-sensual-erotic-bodyrubs-by-kylee-25/7050661[/url]
[QUOTE=Gruglok;1552987]Just wondering. Was a shower available to get the oils off afterwards or did you get tio drive home with greased up socks?[/QUOTE]She said I could use the bathroom adj to the massage room and it did have a shower. There was just a hand towel but I suppose if I asked nice, I could have wrangled a towel. As it was, I squeegeed myself with the hand towel and slid on down the road.
Anyone try out the new asian place in Winter park? I tried to go there last week, but there was no one there and massage light was off.
49 special makes it worth trying out.
Stay safe.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/gorgeous-and-very-hot-_waiting-for-you-23/7072681[/url]
Has anyone tried either of these new ones out?
Micha in Sanford area, says she has 10 years experience. Never seen her before. Charges $100, seems steep to me but could be worth it if tip is included and services are great.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/bts/3278234441.html[/url]
The couple doing services in Apopka. The girl looks hot. They told me they would do it together or seperate. I am more of the girl by herself kind of guy. Let me know anybody has had the pleasure?
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-of-both-worlds-body-rubs-by-upscale-male-female-and9608/6984174[/url]
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Bjceb; 1553240]Has anyone tried either of these new ones out?
Micha in Sanford area, says she has 10 years experience. Never seen her before. Charges $100, seems steep to me but could be worth it if tip is included and services are great.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/bts/3278234441.html[/url]
The couple doing services in Apopka. The girl looks hot. They told me they would do it together or seperate. I am more of the girl by herself kind of guy. Let me know anybody has had the pleasure?
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-of-both-worlds-body-rubs-by-upscale-male-female-and9608/6984174[/url]
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Micha looks great and I am sure many of us would like to have more information on her. Her posting is straight forward:
Hello, My Name is Micha and I have been practicing Massage for 10 years.
If you try her out let us know as she is a real honey, or feel free to PM.
Thanks
She's a real person.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/evs/3280916271.html[/url]
[url]http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/1297349/viewall#/13545699[/url]
[quote]Hello Everyone! I am looking to expand my clientel so Please only respond if you #1 Have $$$ #2 Actually want / need a REAL Massage from a REAL Therapist!
I have been practicing Massage for 10 years now and know almost every Modality. I specialize in Deep Tissue and Healing (getting to the root of the problem / pain).
Please call for more information and we can set up an APT.
Micha Court-James.
Licenced Massage Therapist.
MA # 44748.
(407) 600-3274.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY![/QUOTE]If she's this pretty and can actually give a massage, I might have actually found what I'm looking for. I will definitely be calling this one up once I get some time / cash.
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[QUOTE=Bjceb; 1553240]Has anyone tried either of these new ones out?
Micha in Sanford area, says she has 10 years experience. Never seen her before. Charges $100, seems steep to me but could be worth it if tip is included and services are great.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/bts/3278234441.html[/url]
The couple doing services in Apopka. The girl looks hot. They told me they would do it together or seperate. I am more of the girl by herself kind of guy. Let me know anybody has had the pleasure?
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-of-both-worlds-body-rubs-by-upscale-male-female-and9608/6984174[/url]
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I went to go see the girl in Apopka (made an appointment without the dude of course).
They are in a white trash neighborhood in what does not seem a good area. I got to the address and there was a kid playing out front with an older lady on the phone. The lady looked to be in her 50's and had some bad tattoos. Now I don't know if they were doing a bait and switch or if that lady was the actual lady massaging you but I was totally creeped out. I left immediately. Not so much by the fugly lady, but by the kid playing in the front yard of the house where the massage was going to be. I am down with a freaky scene and am an open minded dude, but I draw the line with children. If children are in the same building I am mongering in, I want no part of that scene whatsoever.