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Have seen an ad for this. It is the place on Peoria near 66th. Has anyone tried it out?
I saw a place on Peoria in the same area last year and decided to stop in. Late 30's, kind of tall Asian. My friend told me she was kind of cute, nice body and offered a topless HE for $. Kind of steep if you ask me.
Massage,
I've never been to an AMP near the location you mentioned. You remember the name / address?
It seems like you have a few things to learn about AMP's. Among other things you might have done differently:
A. You NEVER leave your shorts on! Get nekked! :D By leaving your shorts on you were letter her know that you were not necessarily there for a HE. By leaving your shorts on you also can give off a hint that you are LEO. Doing that, in any way, will GREATLY reduce your chances for a HE.
B. When she asked if you had been there before, you should have answered yes but a long time ago. Repeat customers have better chances of HE's.
C. SHE is not going to automatically offer extras. YOU have to make the 1st move to let her know that you are not LEO.
I've posted this before, but I've seen so many newbies lately that maybe it's time for the newbies to learn, and us old farts to refresh:
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need cash. DO NOT pay with a credit card. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.
3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.
Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 25+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.
6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. If there is a shower, go take one, if there isn't then make sure you comment somehow about recently taking one. You want the provider to be comfortable with you that you are clean. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.
8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.
13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.
18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.
19) Look for signs that will help you find the kind of service you want. Any place advertising latina and Asian generally will be FS, the latina's are generally independent providers who find FS joints for money. Thai places are mostly hot young girls probably in college who are looking for a green card or ' daddy', and Thai places do not generally provide FS. HE's and BJ's usually are the most you can expect in Thai spots.
20) If you don't like the provider ask for someone else. Your experience will be much better by having a provider that is to your liking service you.
21) If she comes in dressed like its a Friday night your almost assuredly at a FS spot.
This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.
Enjoy the hobby,
Dirty
[QUOTE=Massage Dream;1725329]Tried the place on W Indian School not far from the 101. I think "Dirty" reported on this one a while back. A full body massage is only $35 / hr so I figured I would give it a try as I love massages not matter what the ending is like. Stripped down to the bday suit and laid down. I think in this place you are supposed to leave your underpants on. But I didn't really know. I just got the feeling it was due to the way the lady said "you never been here?" followed by many giggles. She was old but if she had offered I would have let her play with my toys. After a lot of giggles from her I could tell this place is pretty strict. Plus when the boss walked by the curtains she kept looking and making the motion that she is under close surveillance. Great massage though.[/QUOTE]
I did get naked. That is why she had the giggles. I think at that place you are supposed to leave the shorts on. I kind of wrote that weird. I didn't bother to get the address as it was not worth going to, but I can so you all will not "where not to go". Thanks for all the newbie tips! I always enjoy reading through them!
Stopped at M10, but they were all busy, told to come back later, but I had to get someplace and couldn't go back. Later stopped at Massage One behind the Wendy's. Got a Chinese lady named A*ju, I've seen reports that she was midto late 30's, but I'd put her at mid to late 40's at least, she is still pretty well preserved though.
She asked if I'd been there before and I told her no, I don't live in AZ, just visiting from California and she asked some questions about where in California and I gave a vague enough answer to satisfy her without being specific. Started with a table shower, and that should have been my first warning, she stayed well away from me, but she was wearing some tight pants that she seemed to be trying to keep dry, so I missed the cue. Back in the room she started the massage, and I requested soft because of a legitimate serious back condition and she complied. After a bit more small talk I ran my hand up her leg and caressed her ass and she said what do you want. I said everything and agreed to $.5, which she asked for up front, shouldn't have given it to her. She left and came back in a few minutes, dropped her top, had me spray some antibacterial cleaner on my hands and things went down hill from there. She put my hands on her boons, but when I started playing with her nipples she made me stop and just rub the boob with out focusing on the nipples, probably sensitive, she had implants. She started a CBJ which wasn't bad, then climbed on for CG and not 30 seconds was going you cum yet? She was complaining throughout the rest of the session, when she got too tired for CG I suggested that I get on top, she laid down in an awkward position with her legs elevated and her had between her legs, which she kept down there after supposedly guiding me in, I quickly figured out that she was just gripping me tightly and I was not back inside her pussy, so I stopped and stood up and she suggested a HJ finish. I let her do that, but she was still complaining all through that until I let go a good sized load. She went out for a hot towel and came back to wipe me off, not very effectively and I got dressed and left.
I do not recommend this lady at all, I saw no one else, although she was talking with another lady that didn't see as I was leaving, the other had kind of a gravelly smokers type voice, so do not know what she would look like.
I will not go back there.
AF
[QUOTE=AsianFan; 1726252]Stopped at M10, but they were all busy, told to come back later, but I had to get someplace and couldn't go back. Later stopped at Massage One behind the Wendy's. Got a Chinese lady named A*ju, I've seen reports that she was midto late 30's, but I'd put her at mid to late 40's at least, she is still pretty well preserved though.
She asked if I'd been there before and I told her no, I don't live in AZ, just visiting from California and she asked some questions about where in California and I gave a vague enough answer to satisfy her without being specific. Started with a table shower, and that should have been my first warning, she stayed well away from me, but she was wearing some tight pants that she seemed to be trying to keep dry, so I missed the cue. Back in the room she started the massage, and I requested soft because of a legitimate serious back condition and she complied. After a bit more small talk I ran my hand up her leg and caressed her ass and she said what do you want. I said everything and agreed to $.5, which she asked for up front, shouldn't have given it to her. She left and came back in a few minutes, dropped her top, had me spray some antibacterial cleaner on my hands and things went down hill from there. She put my hands on her boons, but when I started playing with her nipples she made me stop and just rub the boob with out focusing on the nipples, probably sensitive, she had implants. She started a CBJ which wasn't bad, then climbed on for CG and not 30 seconds was going you cum yet? She was complaining throughout the rest of the session, when she got too tired for CG I suggested that I get on top, she laid down in an awkward position with her legs elevated and her had between her legs, which she kept down there after supposedly guiding me in, I quickly figured out that she was just gripping me tightly and I was not back inside her pussy, so I stopped and stood up and she suggested a HJ finish. I let her do that, but she was still complaining all through that until I let go a good sized load. She went out for a hot towel and came back to wipe me off, not very effectively and I got dressed and left.
I do not recommend this lady at all, I saw no one else, although she was talking with another lady that didn't see as I was leaving, the other had kind of a gravelly smokers type voice, so do not know what she would look like.
I will not go back there.
AF[/QUOTE]I had similar experience at Touch in Glendale. After 5 minutes she quit. At least I only lost $.2.
I am down to three go to places and get great service, but as asian fan I like to try the new stuff.
Thanks for your excellent report and heads up.
Massage,
Yea, it's helpful to all of us if you post the name of the establisment in your reports. Whether it is a good or bad experience, it's good to know where, and where not, to go.
Dirty
[QUOTE=Massage Dream;1726219]I did get naked. That is why she had the giggles. I think at that place you are supposed to leave the shorts on. I kind of wrote that weird. I didn't bother to get the address as it was not worth going to, but I can so you all will not "where not to go". Thanks for all the newbie tips! I always enjoy reading through them![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Massage Dream;1725329]Tried the place on W Indian School not far from the 101. I think "Dirty" reported on this one a while back. A full body massage is only $35 / hr so I figured I would give it a try as I love massages not matter what the ending is like. Stripped down to the bday suit and laid down. I think in this place you are supposed to leave your underpants on. But I didn't really know. I just got the feeling it was due to the way the lady said "you never been here?" followed by many giggles. She was old but if she had offered I would have let her play with my toys. After a lot of giggles from her I could tell this place is pretty strict. Plus when the boss walked by the curtains she kept looking and making the motion that she is under close surveillance. Great massage though.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.relaxolgy.com/[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/50-vip-spa-grand-opening-915-your-new-private-euphoria-22/18274368[/url]
I'm hoping this review is not related to the links I posted above I'm still trying to get info on RELAXOLOGY so I can visit with more confidence.
So I had to see Mya again, and I called and made another appointment. You only need to make one an hour or so in advance. I was met by another girl, and was taken back to her room, where I waited face down naked. I waited for about five minutes when I heard the clicking of her heels coming down the hall. She greeted me very friendly, and started caressing my ass. She asked If I wanted oil or lotion, and I asked for lotion, and she said she would go get some. I said we really don't need any, and sat up. She walked between my legs, and it was on. Dress was on the floor in seconds, and she was bbbjing my cock. She complimented my unit several times, and actually got down to the base a couple times. I was just about to blow, when I stopped her and asked her to get on the table. SHe hopped on and laid back. I was going to eat her again, and she said, no, I need that cock inside me. So, we rolled on a jimmy and I was balls deep in seconds. Either she came twice, or sure acted like she did, (don't really care) , and then I asked her to get on top. She straddled me and I sucked on her right breast, then she moved my face over to her left, and started to moan. She leaned back a few times and took me in as deep as it would go, and I was just barely hitting bottom. God I love that feeling. She hopped off unexpectedly, and pulled off the jimmy, and said I have to have this cock again, and started sucking and deep throating as best as she could. I could have blown that way easily, as she was teasing my balls and ass, but her ass is way too spectacular not to hit that from behind. We got down and she hiked one leg up on the table, and I went to pound town. It usually doesn't take long, and I was seeing stars as I filled the cover inside her. She pulled out slowly, and took the jimmy off and disposed of it in a tissue, and the went to get towels, naked. She returned with two, and proceeded to clean up johnny ever so carefully. She excused herself to get dressed, and I dressed as well. She always meets you on the way out, and seems very appreciative of your business. I think I will be a regular.
Are different and only good for an inexpensive but very well done massage.
[url]http://www.cocoreflexology.com/Contact.asp[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/thp/3726863025.html[/url]
I have seen the "Relaxology" ads as well and it sure looks tempting for .5.
[QUOTE=Quick Love; 1726932][url]Http://www.relaxolgy.com/[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/50-vip-spa-grand-opening-915-your-new-private-euphoria-22/18274368[/url]
I'm hoping this review is not related to the links I posted above I'm still trying to get info on RELAXOLOGY so I can visit with more confidence.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Quick Love; 1726932][url]Http://www.relaxolgy.com/[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/50-vip-spa-grand-opening-915-your-new-private-euphoria-22/18274368[/url]
I'm hoping this review is not related to the links I posted above I'm still trying to get info on RELAXOLOGY so I can visit with more confidence.[/QUOTE]I've posted about this place awhile back in July 2012, when I thought it was a new place. Back then I didn't even know what they were called, now it's Relaxology. Turns out they're still advertising as grand opening. I haven't been back since so I'm not sure if things changed. I had the flat rate which was limited. I did upgrade but entire service was rushed and why I haven't been back.
Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.
Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.
In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a .4 charge for massage and .6 for tip.
Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.
Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.
Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.
I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.
Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.
A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.
I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.
A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.
[QUOTE=NumberOnePerve; 1731476]Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.
Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.
In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a. 4 charge for massage and. 6 for tip.
Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.
Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.
Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.
I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.
Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.
A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.
I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.
A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be shocked if this actually happened. Regardless, this is yet another reason why anyone involved in "hobbying" should be using CASH ONLY. Whether it be at a massage parlor or anywhere else.
You can buy a Visa Debit Pre-paid card and load up to $200. $500 in cash at the store register (amount limit is dependent on the card brand bought) Once the funds are used up on that card. THROW IT AWAY. If you register the card so that you can do reloads, that card will now be associated with your personal information and therefore traceable. If you buy / load a new card each time with cash at the store, that's not the case. The ability to track you only happens once you want to reload funds and "register" the card so that you can do so. It' will cost you $5 to $10 to buy a NEW card each time, but there will be no traceable information if you use pre-paid cards this way. Just letting you all know of options if you don't like carrying cash.
[QUOTE=Matrix Neo;1731804]I wouldn't be shocked if this actually happened. Regardless, this is yet another reason why anyone involved in "hobbying" should be using CASH ONLY. Whether it be at a massage parlor or anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
#1,
Good info, thanks.
It always amazes me when I hear about mongers using credit cards at a massage parlor. Ninety nine percent of us don't want family or friends to know that we do this, but then go and pay MMS with a payment method that is traceable back to "the real you".
If you are going to use plastic for MP's and other purchases, then Papa's suggestion is a very good one. But, the best one is Neo's,"CASH ONLY". Don't leave a back-trail. Think with the big one for a change! :D
Watch your ass!
Dirty
[QUOTE=NumberOnePerve; 1731476]Warning to all my other monger friends. Trust me this comes from a very good source inside LE.
Scottdale PD and Phx PD have been working together for several years and I guess due to budget restrictions or maybe they get spotted too easy because the only talk and don't expose themselves because of entrapment laws, they have now started an active credit card search of massage parlors.
In the one I know about, Massage Body Works on Shoen in Scottsdale, they pulled the credit card reciepts and found a. 4 charge for massage and. 6 for tip.
Long and short, they went to guys house, he fessed up and now girl got arrested and he is forced to testify or gets charged. Don't know about you but I don't want LE knocking on my door and asking the little woman if they can talk to me.
Some of these guys are just doing a job, others get their nut jamming you up. Most vice cops thinks this is funny shit and enjoy telling stories of how stupid some of the girls and we are.
Several reasons not to use a credit card.) the girls learn your real name. 2.) If you tip more than massage or equal to the cops are not stupid.
I am not new to this game, and am sure most of you don't need to read this message. Just an FYI what Scottsdale and Phx have teamed up to do.
Hey I'm not paranoid, but I don't park infront either.
A few people know me on this board even though I am new to posting.
I hope I have contributed something worth while other than another good place to hit.
A better name for me would be Torpedodude, has surfaced again.[/QUOTE]
This is no harder for LE to do on a registered pre-paid card than with a normal credit card. After all these are still co-branded Visa, Mastercard and AMEX cards. Very easy to grab personal info (if it's there, because you registered it so you can do reloads). And then LE drops by your home or office. The card / account gives up the reloads AND also ALL of the transactions: Where, When, How much. Same as a credit card. The ONLY way to avoid this data trail is to toss a pre-paid after it's initial load is used up and buy a new one. More expensive? Yes. Untraceable? Ditto. I have had conversations with D E A, F B I and H o m e l a n d S e c u r i t y and trust me: They HATE pre-paid cards for a reason.
[QUOTE=Matrix Neo;1731804]I wouldn't be shocked if this actually happened. Regardless, this is yet another reason why anyone involved in "hobbying" should be using CASH ONLY. Whether it be at a massage parlor or anywhere else.[/QUOTE]