Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Stop lying, or A2 will "edit the posts so they say you have crabs. ".

Thanks A2, LOL.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3438617]You think he's me? No hunnie. He is not LOL but I did tell you that you may upset a couple people that I've been or spoke with for a long time. I post on here often amd may have too many opinions BUT that's what this is for basically. TELL your OPINIONS. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy your time woth me Dansk. I apologize you feel as tho I got over on you. Those are not my intentions with anyone EVER. I'm just not that kinda woman. And the reason he is quicker to defend me is because I have be seeing this gentlemen for a VERY long time and we have A GREAT friendship in my opinion. I have more than just this man at bat for me and its because they know me, they respect me as I do them.

Its all love no hate my way! As said prior. I'm truly apologetic towards you for making you feel a certain way but all I can say to that is.

"To each their own."[/QUOTE]

No disrespect intended here. But if you have a phone where you can call customer service to replace anything about it (phone number or otherwise) that likely means you're paying for it with credit card which, therefore, means it is trackable to you in the end. Unless, of course, you paid cash and gave a fake name, address, etc and actually remembered all details after having lost it.

I dunno. Am I incorrect here? It's also why burner apps do not appear secure to me either.

To me a burner is best bought prepaid wearing clothes, a ball cap & glasses you don't normally wear at a Walmart paying cash.

Open to being corrected here.

Cam.

[QUOTE=Talltreeman;3438363]I usually park my car in a garage. And the emergency roadside bag where I keep my burner was missing with the phone inside. I about shit a brick thinking my SO had borrowed the bag and was about to find the burner.

Long story short I left the car unlocked and opportunistic kids stole it and a pair of sunglasses. I have never been so happy to be robbed. I bought a replacement phone and called customer service, using the PIN they were able to assign my old number to the new phone. Good luck!

TTM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CameronB;3439188]No disrespect intended here. But if you have a phone where you can call customer service to replace anything about it (phone number or otherwise) that likely means you're paying for it with credit card which, therefore, means it is trackable to you in the end. Unless, of course, you paid cash and gave a fake name, address, etc and actually remembered all details after having lost it.

I dunno. Am I incorrect here? It's also why burner apps do not appear secure to me either.

To me a burner is best bought prepaid wearing clothes, a ball cap & glasses you don't normally wear at a Walmart paying cash.

Open to being corrected here.

Cam.[/QUOTE]While you are technically correct, I think you are looking for a level of security beyond the needs of most.

I think most guys need something where they don't have to use their real phone number, and don't want to worry about texts and calls appearing on their phone.

The steps you are laying out are more in line for drug dealers or leaking secrets to the press. I think dressing up in a disguise and driving across town is overkill for acquiring a phone to call girls. Are you worried about your SO checking the security footage at Walgreens? If you are worried about LEO, I have serious doubts they would jump through all the legal hoops necessary to track down the owner of a phone number that called a working girl's phone.

If you're doing real dirt, then sure protect yourself, but if all you need your phone for is scheduling with girls and your bills are private, then I really see no need for all the cloak and dagger action.

I have a lot of respect for Steve of EE although his ladies do not share my "love" of the edge. However, STEVE REALLY Melea back again. Her service was mediocre at best before and you must have had her back a couple of times to try and prove she was a good SP SHE WASN'T then. Why would we waste dollars taking her for a spin now? How do we know if she does a couple of good dates she won't revert back to the SHOW ME THE MONEY HONEY and MAYBE I will become what you want me to be. Come on Steve You have and have had some fine ladies past and present. Melea was NOT ONE OF THEM. Do the venue a favor and move her on down the line. Jill, Cherry, Juliette depending on which Juliette shows up, Galina, Laylee when she was with you, Brook / ee? ALL quality "STUFF" Melea BP / SW material at best. "Putting podium away and going back to sleep".

One of our retired favorites has been diagnosed with stage two cervical and ovarian cancer. She is currently going through six months of chemotherapy and radiation. She is two months into it and had to take a medical leave of absence from a job she has been at for less than a year.

She doesn't receive FMLA and isn't eligible for vacation so this has caused her hardships and delinquencies in her efforts to meet her financial obligations.

I have personally been in contact with her and helping when I have the extra funds. This is in no way scam but rather a temporary hand up until she is through this and back on her feet.

If you are in a position of unselfishness and able to help in any way, please contact me and I will give you the necessary information.

DGD.

[QUOTE=CameronB;3439188]No disrespect intended here. But if you have a phone where you can call customer service to replace anything about it (phone number or otherwise) that likely means you're paying for it with credit card which, therefore, means it is trackable to you in the end. Unless, of course, you paid cash and gave a fake name, address, etc and actually remembered all details after having lost it.

I dunno. Am I incorrect here? It's also why burner apps do not appear secure to me either.

To me a burner is best bought prepaid wearing clothes, a ball cap & glasses you don't normally wear at a Walmart paying cash.

Open to being corrected here.

Cam.[/QUOTE]You are almost correct. The phone was purchased with cash from Walmart. Only my favorite PIN was needed to set up the phone. I buy refillable cards from the dollar store with cash. Calling Verizon prepay customer service is a pain in the ass, but persistence pays off. They asked for a name, I gave them a name. They wanted the PIN and the phone number, that was it short and sweet.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Dansk;3439063]Stop lying, or A2 will "edit the posts so they say you have crabs. ".

Thanks A2, LOL.[/QUOTE]Sad when a grown man can't fight his own battles with a single Mom of two kids.

[blue]When I can't fight my battles? Do you mean when I have to, or what the fuck are you trying to say? Obviously it's some passive aggressive bullshit aimed at me, but what the fuck are you saying?

Are you actually saying that you think I should allow chicks to put up shill posts?

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;3438988]How are you with a straight razor?

LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh HELL no. I used a beard and moustache trimmer as someone here suggested and STILL managed to draw blood. Delayed my first-ever dream by a week.

Why did you jump out and defend her again and again?

Just because she is single mom of two kids, she has the right to rip people off? What kind of logic is that?

The fact is, crissylynn ripped me off, I told her I will post a honest review, she got nervous, and told me she would make it up to me, then she lied and lied and did not follow through, she even tried preemptive strike to post here that I was abusive, A2 stopped that, then she used a fake I'd to post how great she is and how evil I am, A2 did a great job detecting that and deleted her post.

You may had great experience with her, I am ok if you just say that, but it is not ok to keep mocking me. She ripped me off, she deserves my bad review.

[QUOTE=BoxsterS;3440275]Sad when a grown man can't fight his own battles with a single Mom of two kids.

[blue]When I can't fight my battles? Do you mean when I have to, or what the fuck are you trying to say? Obviously it's some passive aggressive bullshit aimed at me, but what the fuck are you saying?

Are you actually saying that you think I should allow chicks to put up shill posts?

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dansk;3440597]Why did you jump out and defend her again and again?

Just because she is single mom of two kids, she has the right to rip people off? What kind of logic is that?

The fact is, crissylynn ripped me off, I told her I will post a honest review, she got nervous, and told me she would make it up to me, then she lied and lied and did not follow through, she even tried preemptive strike to post here that I was abusive, A2 stopped that, then she used a fake I'd to post how great she is and how evil I am, A2 did a great job detecting that and deleted her post.

You may had great experience with her, I am ok if you just say that, but it is not ok to keep mocking me. She ripped me off, she deserves my bad review.[/QUOTE]It is interesting your story vs. Hers. This shit happens every once in awhile with providers and a monger. When one of us posts a black mark review of a provider that has a hostory of good reviews it makes me wonder if you told it the way it actually happened. The truth lies between both sides. If it happened the way you said, great. If not, don't f'ing tell us a version of the truth that makes you look good and her bad.

On the bright, this all makes for interesting reading! Haha.

I don't know why we even care. If a monger says they got ripped off then maybe they did. But who actually cares? Why do we white knight these women? This is a hobby built on lies. We mongers lie to our SO's if we have one and we all lie to ourselves when we act like these transactions are more than they are. The providers lie to their SO's if they have them, or their families or themselves as well. With all these lies surrounding this hobby of ours, why waste time trying to decifer who's lying the least. Just go out and buy some ass, report if it's good and give us a heads up if you think it's our friend LEO. Everything else just feels like a waste of time and energy. Why put emotion into a hobby where there is no emotion? Just my two cents. Stay safe.

LC79.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3432762]Thanks for the note. I don't know who you are talking about in your first example either, but I'll accept your statement that they don't get that many texts. "Highly reviewed" and "highly sought after" are different. And no, I don't think it's shameful. This isn't Lisa Kline Men's store or even Jeff Ruby's; this is the fast food of pussy. When I go for the high dollar hotties, I do expect a different result.[/QUOTE]If your lucky it's Chick-fil-A.

Those of us who have seen crissylynn aka shloe can vouch that she can be terrific and she can be just ok. It depends on what day you get her. Sometimes in two weeks you get both ends. She has been sincerely sweet and sensual one time with me and then not even into it the next time. She has given me a peck one time and engaged in beautiful lfk the next time. Her reviews and her business will be helped if she showed the full GFE side of herself on a regular basis. She can do it and she has.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;3438988]How are you with a straight razor?

LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes hmmmm. Straight razor hell no. I want to play and sick them not cut them off.

Xoxo.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;3441264]Those of us who have seen crissylynn aka shloe can vouch that she can be terrific and she can be just ok. It depends on what day you get her. Sometimes in two weeks you get both ends. She has been sincerely sweet and sensual one time with me and then not even into it the next time. She has given me a peck one time and engaged in beautiful lfk the next time. Her reviews and her business will be helped if she showed the full GFE side of herself on a regular basis. She can do it and she has.[/QUOTE]Maybe she has multiple personalities.

[QUOTE=LuvinCurves79;3440979]I don't know why we even care. If a monger says they got ripped off then maybe they did. But who actually cares? Why do we white knight these women? This is a hobby built on lies. We mongers lie to our SO's if we have one and we all lie to ourselves when we act like these transactions are more than they are. The providers lie to their SO's if they have them, or their families or themselves as well. With all these lies surrounding this hobby of ours, why waste time trying to decifer who's lying the least. Just go out and buy some ass, report if it's good and give us a heads up if you think it's our friend LEO. Everything else just feels like a waste of time and energy. Why put emotion into a hobby where there is no emotion? Just my two cents. Stay safe.

LC79.[/QUOTE]Because information is power. The more information we have, the more we can use it to our advantage. Obviously when there is a split of information such as this because two parties are diametrically opposed to one another, then that creates a little more confusion when trying to straighten out the information. So why even have a forum like this where people can post information? Because it is valuable. The only question is what you choose to do with it. Having a provider who is well reviewed and has had no complaints is a no-brainer. But if you have a good provider that occasionally has a few bad comments, then maybe you approach with a little more caution. Maybe this is one of those situations where you approach, but do it cautiously with this provider.

I agree dressing in disguise and what not is probably overboard but who knows what other jams you could unwittingly become a part of based on someone being able to trace your phone from a girls call log. E. G. She ODs or is involved in some other crime and they get your number and come calling on you. So, having a separate phone for mongering is one level of security from SOs and the like but still not very secure.

Pre-paid with cash is probably the best option for the average all-around risk.

[QUOTE=OnlyThisTime;3439201]While you are technically correct, I think you are looking for a level of security beyond the needs of most.

I think most guys need something where they don't have to use their real phone number, and don't want to worry about texts and calls appearing on their phone.

The steps you are laying out are more in line for drug dealers or leaking secrets to the press. I think dressing up in a disguise and driving across town is overkill for acquiring a phone to call girls. Are you worried about your SO checking the security footage at Walgreens? If you are worried about LEO, I have serious doubts they would jump through all the legal hoops necessary to track down the owner of a phone number that called a working girl's phone.

If you're doing real dirt, then sure protect yourself, but if all you need your phone for is scheduling with girls and your bills are private, then I really see no need for all the cloak and dagger action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;3438652]But you will find it in the last place you look. Hairy balls are yucky by the way.

Xoxo,

Me.[/QUOTE]Went to go grab a tissue out of the box in my console. Empty! Picked up the box and stuff slide around in the box. Found my burner and a few green backs!

I want to RAVE about the girls that update their recurring ads when their situation changes. For example, I see Cristen Cremes posted that she is out sick for a while:

[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-35/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/34009-OUT-OF-COMMISSION-please-see-below.html[/URL]

On the flip side, I want to RANT about the more numerous girls who put an ad out there that repeats daily for 30 days, and leave it up even when they are not available. I understand if uncle LEO picked them up unexpectedly, but if they're traveling out of town, under the weather for a while, or whatever it would seem to be to their own advantage to either update the ad with their availability if they want to maintain a presence, or simply take it down until they are available again. That way they don't get annoyed by texts and calls coming in, and mongers don't post reviews about getting crickets because they know the deal.

While I am ranting, I really hate the recurring ads that say "today only!" for weeks, or say "this weekend" without any date, so you're not sure if it was really last weekend and just hasn't been updated.

I try to keep my ad updated the best I can since my availability is a bit squirrely. I figure its the least I can do since I can't always be available.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;3441498]I agree dressing in disguise and what not is probably overboard but who knows what other jams you could unwittingly become a part of based on someone being able to trace your phone from a girls call log. E. G. She ODs or is involved in some other crime and they get your number and come calling on you. So, having a separate phone for mongering is one level of security from SOs and the like but still not very secure.

Pre-paid with cash is probably the best option for the average all-around risk.[/QUOTE]Yup. Buy a tracfone and a minutes card for a fraction of a hhr session. Use cash. Don't register it with your personal info if you can avoid it. Buy minute cards when you need to re-up (minutes don't expire even though your service period might). Stash the phone and the charger in a good hiding place at home. It's really all you need to do. I've had mine for four years plus and haven't had a problem. It's less stress than using your "public" smartphone and we all know that's healthier for us.

Sometimes I'll use my "real" smartphone to navigate to a provider address, but I avoid logging in to Google maps. That way there is no obvious history sitting on my phone.

The dumbest thing I ever did had nothing to do with all our fancy technology. I had used a sheet of paper with written directions to a hotel in town and a girlfriend found it sitting in the car door compartment. Luckily I had a professional excuse at the time, but I learned from that mistake! It's easy to slip up in this hobby if you don't keep vigilant.

The NSA and / or other military departments will soon be (if not already) drone-scouting all of our movements, whether you have a mobile phone or not. So if you're worried about getting busted for mongering, stick to civilian life. They've got us all clocked and can pull that trigger anytime they need to. So don't run drugs, commit art theft, or other high-level crimes that invite investigative scrutiny. No one gives a fucking shit if you're paying for a little pussy now and again. It's not important unless you're running for public office and you're to the left of Attila the Hun.

I did not suggest that no one should post. My point was why waste time trying to decide if the monger or provider is telling the truth. This forum is great and I wouldn't change a thing about it. I'm just not one to waste time on BS and I'm definitely not one to white knight someone. That is all.

[QUOTE=INTravelingMan;3441495]Because information is power. The more information we have, the more we can use it to our advantage. Obviously when there is a split of information such as this because two parties are diametrically opposed to one another, then that creates a little more confusion when trying to straighten out the information. So why even have a forum like this where people can post information? Because it is valuable. The only question is what you choose to do with it. Having a provider who is well reviewed and has had no complaints is a no-brainer. But if you have a good provider that occasionally has a few bad comments, then maybe you approach with a little more caution. Maybe this is one of those situations where you approach, but do it cautiously with this provider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrBnode73;3442435]Yup. Buy a tracfone and a minutes card for a fraction of a hhr session. Use cash. Don't register it with your personal info if you can avoid it. Buy minute cards when you need to re-up (minutes don't expire even though your service period might). Stash the phone and the charger in a good hiding place at home. It's really all you need to do. I've had mine for four years plus and haven't had a problem. It's less stress than using your "public" smartphone and we all know that's healthier for us.

Sometimes I'll use my "real" smartphone to navigate to a provider address, but I avoid logging in to Google maps. That way there is no obvious history sitting on my phone.

The dumbest thing I ever did had nothing to do with all our fancy technology. I had used a sheet of paper with written directions to a hotel in town and a girlfriend found it sitting in the car door compartment. Luckily I had a professional excuse at the time, but I learned from that mistake! It's easy to slip up in this hobby if you don't keep vigilant.

The NSA and / or other military departments will soon be (if not already) drone-scouting all of our movements, whether you have a mobile phone or not. So if you're worried about getting busted for mongering, stick to civilian life. They've got us all clocked and can pull that trigger anytime they need to. So don't run drugs, commit art theft, or other high-level crimes that invite investigative scrutiny. No one gives a fucking shit if you're paying for a little pussy now and again. It's not important unless you're running for public office and you're to the left of Attila the Hun.[/QUOTE]My SO has no interest in sex anymore and thinks I don't either. One day she was riding in my truck, which she never does, and dumb ass me left my pill box with my Viagra on the seat from my last visit. Of course she found the box. Luckily I have some normal meds in an identical case. I thanked her for finding it and she didn't open it. Dodged a bullet.

I also recommend a Trac phone paid for with cash. I keep mine at my office and it NEVER goes into my house. Four years and no issues. Stay Sfae. And smart.

[QUOTE=DrBnode73;3442435]Yup. Buy a tracfone and a minutes card for a fraction of a hhr session. Use cash. Don't register it with your personal info if you can avoid it. Buy minute cards when you need to re-up (minutes don't expire even though your service period might). Stash the phone and the charger in a good hiding place at home. It's really all you need to do. I've had mine for four years plus and haven't had a problem. It's less stress than using your "public" smartphone and we all know that's healthier for us.

Sometimes I'll use my "real" smartphone to navigate to a provider address, but I avoid logging in to Google maps. That way there is no obvious history sitting on my phone.

The dumbest thing I ever did had nothing to do with all our fancy technology. I had used a sheet of paper with written directions to a hotel in town and a girlfriend found it sitting in the car door compartment. Luckily I had a professional excuse at the time, but I learned from that mistake! It's easy to slip up in this hobby if you don't keep vigilant.

The NSA and / or other military departments will soon be (if not already) drone-scouting all of our movements, whether you have a mobile phone or not. So if you're worried about getting busted for mongering, stick to civilian life. They've got us all clocked and can pull that trigger anytime they need to. So don't run drugs, commit art theft, or other high-level crimes that invite investigative scrutiny. No one gives a fucking shit if you're paying for a little pussy now and again. It's not important unless you're running for public office and you're to the left of Attila the Hun.[/QUOTE]Use a computer that can't be traced back to you to register and activate the burner. Choose an area code that is not close to you.

Get the 99 dollar plan, it's good for a year and you can add 1000 texts for 5 bucks.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;3442781]Use a computer that can't be traced back to you to register and activate the burner. Choose an area code that is not close to you.[/QUOTE]It easier and less hassle just to use a pay phone to register the burner phone.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3443050]It easier and less hassle just to use a pay phone to register the burner phone.[/QUOTE]How many pay phones do you see these days? How is someone going to call you back on a pay phone? (I often have the experience that the provider doesn't answer the phone, but, in a good case, she calls back in a few minutes.).

[QUOTE=Golden3;3443214]How many pay phones do you see these days? How is someone going to call you back on a pay phone? (I often have the experience that the provider doesn't answer the phone, but, in a good case, she calls back in a few minutes.).[/QUOTE]Reading comprehension, has long been an issue with some folks here.

[QUOTE=Golden3;3443214]How many pay phones do you see these days? How is someone going to call you back on a pay phone? (I often have the experience that the provider doesn't answer the phone, but, in a good case, she calls back in a few minutes.).[/QUOTE]LOL, he's suggesting you use a pay phone to register your burner phone instead of using a computer, not to use a payphone for mongering.

It's been a few years since I did it, but as I recall, Tracfone gives you a way to register the phone using the phone itself.

[QUOTE=Scup1958;3443480]It's been a few years since I did it, but as I recall, Tracfone gives you a way to register the phone using the phone itself.[/QUOTE]When I got mine I did not register it, it gave me an option to do it later, that was a couple years ago and never ask again, so there is no info on me. Except a fake name. I have the type you buy the mins card to add mins. No plan.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3443050]It easier and less hassle just to use a pay phone to register the burner phone.[/QUOTE]1st pay phone that I saw in the last 5 years was this weekend at a campground in the hills. But if that is an option and you know where a pay phone is. Go for it!

[QUOTE=Scup1958;3443480]It's been a few years since I did it, but as I recall, Tracfone gives you a way to register the phone using the phone itself.[/QUOTE]Not to beat a dead horse but you are correct. I just got mine last month. Registered on the phone itself using the minutes card and no name needed. Just follow the directions in the phone package.

Any reviews on this AMP house on ohio pike. I'm thinking about trying it out, just thought I'd ask, here first.

How about use the pinger text free app instead and when don't need it delete.

[QUOTE=SmlqqKing;3452312]How about use the pinger text free app instead and when don't need it delete.[/QUOTE]I use TextNow. I delete when I don't need it, and I have multiple accounts, so if I cross a line in questioning the girl, I can hit her up from a different number and start over. You can change your number every 15 days, so that prevents unwanted texts down the road.

Try a body armor before your next dream.

Maybe not the best place to post this but putting it out there to maybe help others.

I don't know if others have this issue but I often couldn't log in to this site because I'd get a "wrong username or password" message. And damnit I know I entered it right. I tried most of the help solutions suggested but they didn't work. I'm in a rural area with painfully slow internet (0. 3 - 0. 7 Mbps on a good day). I finally realized that after entering my password, if I waited a few seconds before hitting the Login button I no longer had problems. It seems like the last letter of my password is slower to make the journey to the servers than the Login button. Maybe it's my Kindle browser but it's easy to blame my POS slow internet for everything. "Fiber is coming" they keep telling me, for TWO years now. They say it's part of Obama's "No Hillbilly Left Behind" program. I'll believe it when I'm streaming HD porn LOL. Rant over.

I'm LovnLivn.

[QUOTE=RustyShaq;3452381]I use TextNow. I delete when I don't need it, and I have multiple accounts, so if I cross a line in questioning the girl, I can hit her up from a different number and start over. You can change your number every 15 days, so that prevents unwanted texts down the road.[/QUOTE]Very smooth and helpful some of the girls have these too smart way to go.

[QUOTE=RustyShaq;3452381]I use TextNow. I delete when I don't need it, and I have multiple accounts, so if I cross a line in questioning the girl, I can hit her up from a different number and start over. You can change your number every 15 days, so that prevents unwanted texts down the road.[/QUOTE]A side note to newbies-- if you don't have a couple of references or reviews under your belt. There are a LOT of ladies who will not see you if you're obviously using a texting app (Textnow TELLS us that you're using it).

These apps are fabulous for guys who are established. But for the newer set, it can result in a lot of closed doors.