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[QUOTE=King50;5701669]Them tits turn me off just looking at them.[/QUOTE]And the pterodactyl arms.

[QUOTE=EsGarcea;5702138]I reached out. 150/200/300. But. Requires $10 deposit vis apple pay or cash app. Don't care how small it is. Not doing it. Pass. I'll stick with Parker or Eden for that.[/QUOTE]Damn, to me it's not the small deposit. I can take that loss as I'm sure you can too I get your hesitance. It's just the dumbass in me that makes me want to try her out.

Anyone know if she's GFE? Msog or BBBJ? Thanks.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/biancanoirvip[/URL]

[QUOTE=BillMurray80;5702553]Damn, to me it's not the small deposit. I can take that loss as I'm sure you can too I get your hesitance. It's just the dumbass in me that makes me want to try her out.[/QUOTE]I think small deposits is the new hustle. Ask for $10-25 deposit then ghost them, and it asks up. Especially if you're placing a ad in every major city. I'll give you a depot if you give me your address and room number.

Side Note can someone PM me the details on Eden.

Dear Kelle, Chloe and others.

The StL market needs more and exciting ladies. If you have friends who are just starting, help them out. The market is begging for new and exciting talent.

Recent comments mentions your friends. Help them get started. Make 2022 be much better than 2021.

To a Happy New Year!

[QUOTE=DerDeered;5699979]I don't understand how anyone is OK with this. She should be broke unless people are ok with being blackmailed at some point. Be careful this seem like a very bad idea. If everyone refuses she will change her requirements.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/72580231[/URL][/QUOTE]Well Jess has been in the game for awhile. I met her years ago before she moved out to Las Vegas, then she moved back to St. Louis, and then back to Las Vegas, and then back to St. Louis. Enticing Eva was another girl who moved out there too and eventually moved back.

Not sure why Jess decided to start asking for deposits but maybe it is to cut down on the time wasters and game players. Unless something drastic has changed with her recently, she's not going to rip anyone off and definitely wouldn't be blackmailing anyone. I'm sure if she feels requesting deposits isn't working for her she will change but I suspect she has a pretty good crop of regulars so it is not like she is fishing for all new guys every day she works.

If you play the game right, the chances of getting blackmailed by a provider should be pretty small.

I always use a disposable burner phone for cell contact. An app is one way or another tied to your personal phone information. Now the ordinary person may not be able to tie the app to the personal phone information but if something would really go south bad there are agencies out there that can, have, and will do it. With that said, every disposable phone has its own serial number and every carrier can trace that serial number back to the store and time it was purchased so even burner phones aren't entirely untraceable. There are just more hoops to jump through to do it.

If all you discuss in either email, text, or voice is when the provider is available, when you can match your schedule with her availability, and where either she or you are located there isn't much material around for her to blackmail anyone. Find girls who have positive reviews on multiple sites, who have advertising with rates on multiple sites, and who you are attracted to and can afford to keep company with and have a good time. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

I don't get some of you guys that scrape around the bottom when you are able to see Parker I get if you are seeing the upper tier ladies like Reanne Eden Lilia or upper tier traveling ladies but when you are trying to see if a lady is not going to rob you set you up why are you doing this stuff, I'm on the outs with the beautiful kind Parker and am forced to scrape around but when I was in good standing I saw her 2/3 times a month and let the others go!

I'm just saying variety ok see the top ladies but the lowenders why?

Happy New Years to all of you hope you stay safe and the best way is to go where you know! Not in a hope it might be good but a sure thing it will be! Use your big head!

I hope I get back to the best in town Parker.

Hey all! First want to tell everyone I hope they have a safe and happy new year! I am going to be in the IL Metro East area tonight for the evening. I am from down around Carbondale. I am looking for suggestions from you all on who my best choices would be to have a lady visit me tonight in my hotel! I can go through all the different websites and look through all the ads but with my limited time I am hoping you guys can lead me the direction I can go. Obviously I am looking for someone who is safe and drama free. I would prefer the provider to be open to BBBJ at least. Just give me some names of good reputable ladies so I can weed out the ones who are flakey or possibly scammers. Thank you all and I hope to hear from you! You are welcome to send me a DM with the info.

[QUOTE=TimeMaker;5703311]I don't get some of you guys that scrape around the bottom when you are able to see Parker.[/QUOTE]Some of us just want to get a BJ or a quick session and move on without having to spend $300+.

[QUOTE=AceChase;5704138]Some of us just want to get a BJ or a quick session and move on without having to spend $300+.[/QUOTE]I can't swear but I think she offers hh BBBJCIM for $200 but I'm not sure still don't get some of you guys Eden offers hh at $200 for BBBJCIM and so does Reanne I just know why you scrape around to each is own.

Happy new years.

[QUOTE=TimeMaker;5704231]I can't swear but I think she offers hh BBBJCIM for $200 but I'm not sure still don't get some of you guys Eden offers hh at $200 for BBBJCIM and so does Reanne I just know why you scrape around to each is own.

Happy new years.[/QUOTE]For me, 200 for just a BBBJ is absolutely not worth it. I wouldn't even do 150, even if it was one of the top providers. Having some sexy A+ girl do that while you can't see her fully nude nor do anything to her is just a tease.

[QUOTE=AceChase;5704453]For me, 200 for just a BBBJ is absolutely not worth it. I wouldn't even do 150, even if it was one of the top providers. Having some sexy A+ girl do that while you can't see her fully nude nor do anything to her is just a tease.[/QUOTE]Louder please.

[QUOTE=Spellbound728;5704667]Louder please.[/QUOTE]If you got any good ones to share at 150 pass my way I agree it is high but safe these ladies just offering dumpy hotels I just don't get it to save $50 bucks.

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Them titties got me drooling.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/72746454/3144857767[/URL]

I'd love to hear about one of us who rolls off of her, gets dressed tells her she wasn't the best and asks for their money back. LOL.

[URL]https://st-louis.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/let-me-help-you-relaxbest-puss/589314786492[/URL]

Too true. Absolutely ridiculous that so many think that they can get away with this level of overpricing and misleading ads.

Unserious providers are wasting space on websites and our time trying to figure out even if they are real. Another provider has ads in seven MO cities today. Too many like this:

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/72783442[/URL]#.

[QUOTE=AceChase;5704453]For me, 200 for just a BBBJ is absolutely not worth it. I wouldn't even do 150, even if it was one of the top providers. Having some sexy A+ girl do that while you can't see her fully nude nor do anything to her is just a tease.[/QUOTE]

This town is getting extremely dry. All good providers once were now are nowhere to be found. Only a handful is still around. The bottom feeders are now acting like their cooch is made of gold and thus they are worth accordingly. The ones that were used to seen for 100 for a hhr are now asking for 160-200. The ones I saw a few years back are now wanting $120 for just a CBJ. Covid exacerbates this drought even more. We mongers need to stop feeding the bottom feeders to control the inflation rate.

[QUOTE=King50;5705152]This town is getting extremely dry. All good providers once were now are nowhere to be found. Only a handful is still around. The bottom feeders are now acting like their cooch is made of gold and thus they are worth accordingly. The ones that were used to seen for 100 for a hhr are now asking for 160-200. The ones I saw a few years back are now wanting $120 for just a CBJ. Covid exacerbates this drought even more. We mongers need to stop feeding the bottom feeders to control the inflation rate.[/QUOTE]Well said, I mentioned something like this in the AMP section and people responded as if there was no choice. There is a choice and that is to walk ask for donation, tell what the donation should really be, walk away if it is not mwt. It may involve going without for a while but something has to change. I see big ugly I don't do this or that ladies asking for way too much. It shpuld be more like, Ugly=40 qv, 80 hhr, 120 hr, Average=60 qv, 120 hhr, 180 hr Upscale beautiful=100 qv maybe 120 qv, 200 hhr, 300 hr.

[QUOTE=JustMe79;5705041]I'd love to hear about one of us who rolls off of her, gets dressed tells her she wasn't the best and asks for their money back. LOL.

[URL]https://st-louis.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/let-me-help-you-relaxbest-puss/589314786492[/URL][/QUOTE]THIS one robbed me with her "pimp" so I would avoid. If you want to know details PM.

[QUOTE=King50;5705152]This town is getting extremely dry. All good providers once were now are nowhere to be found. Only a handful is still around. The bottom feeders are now acting like their cooch is made of gold and thus they are worth accordingly. The ones that were used to seen for 100 for a hhr are now asking for 160-200. The ones I saw a few years back are now wanting $120 for just a CBJ. Covid exacerbates this drought even more. We mongers need to stop feeding the bottom feeders to control the inflation rate.[/QUOTE]Just read the board and you will see we are the biggest contributors to this town becoming as dry as it is. White knights wanting to impress once someone is known to be very good and reasonable. Mongers falling in love, sharing screenshots of what is reported on the board. Heck most of the providers are members of the board. You're not speaking to just mongers, you're talking to the providers. The mongers here need to impress and promote their favorite so much, that this the result. If that's not the case, their mistreating them to point that they quit or go UTR. It is, what it is.

Saw Ginger recently at her house off of Goodfellow (the area is semi-sketch but her end of the street was ok). She looks mostly like her pics, maybe just a little rougher around the edges but still a cute woman. She has a thin, spinner body with a nice ass and small titties with gumdrop nipples. We started with some light kissing and then she gave me a good BBBJ with some 69 action. Her kitty was wet and tasty. Put the cover on and enjoyed her in a variety of positions until I blew in the bag. Got dressed, hug and out the door. 160 for hh. She was friendly and accommodating, and I'll likely repeat at some point.

Her new ad:

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3148066335/1[/URL]

And her old ad, with a few more pictures:

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3146711463/1[/URL]

[QUOTE=DiveMasterStl;5486867]Any one seen her lately?[/QUOTE]Catz car was stolen from her own driveway. Another reason to avoid.

I had seen her tryst ad before I found her EB ad, and she looked like a cute spinner. Set up was easy and met her at her house in a good part of South City. She looked like the pictures where she is wearing the red bra and sitting on a white chair. Got naked, she has some A-cup pancake titties and a cute little bubble ass. We started with some kissing standing by the bed, then she got on her knees and gave me a decent BBBJ with DT and some gagging when I was in her throat. We moved to the bed and I enjoyed some DATY, and she seemed to get into it, using her hand on the back of my head to help me grind against her clit. She squeezed my head pretty hard with her legs, so either she really was enjoying it or just pretending, and either way I don't care. Like many of the lovely aa women that I've seen, her kitty did have a very strong musky scent to it. Put the cover on and hit it a few different ways until the big finish. She was very friendly and had a nice attitude. 150 for hh.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3145290065/1[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/angelicdoll[/URL]

[QUOTE=MikeyD138;5704923]Them titties got me drooling.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/72746454/3144857767[/URL][/QUOTE]Haven't and won't. While I respect every providers rules. Covered BJ is a non starter for me. Just broke up with a Sugar Baby who loved a salty load in her throat. I miss it but the drama was too much.

[QUOTE=DerDeered;5705198]Well said, I mentioned something like this in the AMP section and people responded as if there was no choice. There is a choice and that is to walk ask for donation, tell what the donation should really be, walk away if it is not mwt. It may involve going without for a while but something has to change. I see big ugly I don't do this or that ladies asking for way too much. It shpuld be more like, Ugly=40 qv, 80 hhr, 120 hr, Average=60 qv, 120 hhr, 180 hr Upscale beautiful=100 qv maybe 120 qv, 200 hhr, 300 hr.[/QUOTE]People will pay what is personally worth it for them, and everyone prioritizes things differently. Likewise every provider weighs what it's worth to her to do certain things, or do them at all. This is the purest example of capitalism at work, so guilt tripping mongers to "just hold out" until prices are where you'd like them simply will not work. And for reasons that aren't completely known, covid has fucked up the labor situation everywhere, and our hobby is not exempt.

[QUOTE=An349;5706254]I had seen her tryst ad before I found her EB ad, and she looked like a cute spinner. Set up was easy and met her at her house in a good part of South City. She looked like the pictures where she is wearing the red bra and sitting on a white chair. Got naked, she has some A-cup pancake titties and a cute little bubble ass. We started with some kissing standing by the bed, then she got on her knees and gave me a decent BBBJ with DT and some gagging when I was in her throat. We moved to the bed and I enjoyed some DATY, and she seemed to get into it, using her hand on the back of my head to help me grind against her clit. She squeezed my head pretty hard with her legs, so either she really was enjoying it or just pretending, and either way I don't care. Like many of the lovely aa women that I've seen, her kitty did have a very strong musky scent to it. Put the cover on and hit it a few different ways until the big finish. She was very friendly and had a nice attitude. 150 for hh.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3145290065/1[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/angelicdoll[/URL][/QUOTE]Now that is a model review. Details on looks, services, hygiene, and rates and included links. Good reviews brother. Thanks!

I had the pleasure of ringing in the new year with Violetta ([URL]http://www.tallredv.com/[/URL]) and I was quite happy with the experience! A very tall and lovely lady who does a great job at oral which is what works for me. I was reminded of the old Maxwell House coffee ads that said "Good to the last drop" since she definitely stays with it. If you see her because of this post you might mention that John the dog lover recommended her and perhaps I'll score some brownie points although I didn't need any on the last visit!

[QUOTE=Badboy2;5705511]Just read the board and you will see we are the biggest contributors to this town becoming as dry as it is. White knights wanting to impress once someone is known to be very good and reasonable. Mongers falling in love, sharing screenshots of what is reported on the board. Heck most of the providers are members of the board. You're not speaking to just mongers, you're talking to the providers. The mongers here need to impress and promote their favorite so much, that this the result. If that's not the case, their mistreating them to point that they quit or go UTR. It is, what it is.[/QUOTE]Dammit! I'm glad you said it. I've been wanting to say it for the longest. These thirsty lame cucks are going far above and beyond selling out our best interests in establishing a buyers market with the escort community. They are pathetic. I'll save the rest for my own post, but I agree with you 1000%.

[QUOTE=Spellbound728;5706732]Dammit! I'm glad you said it. I've been wanting to say it for the longest. These thirsty lame cucks are going far above and beyond selling out our best interests in establishing a buyers market with the escort community. They are pathetic. I'll save the rest for my own post, but I agree with you 1000%.[/QUOTE]Well I certainly agree, could not have said it better myself, but a bit rougher, the market is out of control due to desparete buyers.

[QUOTE=Badboy2;5705511]Just read the board and you will see we are the biggest contributors to this town becoming as dry as it is. White knights wanting to impress once someone is known to be very good and reasonable. Mongers falling in love, sharing screenshots of what is reported on the board. Heck most of the providers are members of the board. You're not speaking to just mongers, you're talking to the providers. The mongers here need to impress and promote their favorite so much, that this the result. If that's not the case, their mistreating them to point that they quit or go UTR. It is, what it is.[/QUOTE]Before judging don't compare others here. If you are the level headed guy take control and bring everything under control. Don't censor people's opinion.

[QUOTE=RomanBath;5706376]People will pay what is personally worth it for them, and everyone prioritizes things differently. Likewise every provider weighs what it's worth to her to do certain things, or do them at all. This is the purest example of capitalism at work, so guilt tripping mongers to "just hold out" until prices are where you'd like them simply will not work. And for reasons that aren't completely known, covid has fucked up the labor situation everywhere, and our hobby is not exempt.[/QUOTE]A lecture in economics is not necessary we totally understand. The point he is trying to make is where our standards and imperatives should be regarding these escorts. I don't know about the rate scale he proposed, but it would definitely work to reel them in if enough of us had the balls to do it. We are the ones with the jobs bringing the income to them.
Look at 90% of these ads And how desperate they all are trying to outdo each other for our attention and money. Then, go to the pictures and look at the background instead of them. They are usually dirt poor, no furniture, with nothing else going for them. And have the nerve to say don't waste my time. That's because too many guys will crawl to them and treat them better than they treat their own wives. Half of them have an attitude when you contact them And their ads speak more on what they will not do than what they will. Nothing wrong with with capitalism when it is.
properly regulated. Bad manners, bad attitude, lack of lack of skills, Health and emotional issues combined with exorbitant rates should not be in demand. We need to run these skanks out of town or send them back to streetwalking where they normally would be.

[QUOTE=Spellbound728;5708055]A lecture in economics is not necessary we totally understand. The point he is trying to make is where our standards and imperatives should be regarding these escorts. I don't know about the rate scale he proposed, but it would definitely work to reel them in if enough of us had the balls to do it. We are the ones with the jobs bringing the income to them.
Look at 90% of these ads And how desperate they all are trying to outdo each other for our attention and money. Then, go to the pictures and look at the background instead of them. They are usually dirt poor, no furniture, with nothing else going for them. And have the nerve to say don't waste my time. That's because too many guys will crawl to them and treat them better than they treat their own wives. Half of them have an attitude when you contact them And their ads speak more on what they will not do than what they will. Nothing wrong with with capitalism when it is.
properly regulated. Bad manners, bad attitude, lack of lack of skills, Health and emotional issues combined with exorbitant rates should not be in demand. We need to run these skanks out of town or send them back to streetwalking where they normally would be.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct, in my book anyway.

Hey all. Last night I contacted 4 different girls off LC and we worked out times, rates etc. Then without fail in all 4 instances they last thing I heard was: "I need a deposit to book the appointment".

Well guess what? 4 girls didn't make any money at all. I guess most the girls off that site are getting in on the scam.

[QUOTE=Spellbound728;5708055]A lecture in economics is not necessary we totally understand. The point he is trying to make is where our standards and imperatives should be regarding these escorts. I don't know about the rate scale he proposed, but it would definitely work to reel them in if enough of us had the balls to do it. We are the ones with the jobs bringing the income to them.
Look at 90% of these ads And how desperate they all are trying to outdo each other for our attention and money. Then, go to the pictures and look at the background instead of them. They are usually dirt poor, no furniture, with nothing else going for them. And have the nerve to say don't waste my time. That's because too many guys will crawl to them and treat them better than they treat their own wives. Half of them have an attitude when you contact them And their ads speak more on what they will not do than what they will. Nothing wrong with with capitalism when it is.
properly regulated. Bad manners, bad attitude, lack of lack of skills, Health and emotional issues combined with exorbitant rates should not be in demand. We need to run these skanks out of town or send them back to streetwalking where they normally would be.[/QUOTE]But the understanding of economics is what allows you to understand why things are the way they are. It's always about supply and demand. But the more salient point is that no one is forcing anybody to visit these girls. They visit and pay more than usual because the supply is down (caused by regulation) and the demand is either the same or higher. That's why the economics lesson (albeit brief) is so important. There isn't a large enough block of men that can bad together and force prices down. The price has been forced up by regulation. It always is. The fallacy is thinking that capitalism is responsible for inflation and overpricing. It never is. It's always the regulation that causes it.

So not to pontificate, but I don't condemn people for their tastes or kinks. I don't detest people or "overpaying". That's on them. I have no problem with girl "A" charging $300 for sniffing her asshole and pegging some dude in a motel 6. Why? Not my money. I don't use list crawler. Doesn't mean I rail against it's existence. Let people have their things. As long as they don't use my money to do it. Is supply shitty now? Yes. But you can't blame "the market" The market is an organism outside of human control, driven by the collective activity of a society. Blame the regulation that always precedes it. FOSTA-SESTA drove a lot of the low hanging fruit higher up the tree, including the hotter ones. It created artificial scarcity, because it became less profitable to advertise and see anybody and everybody. But it's also St Louis politics. St Louis sucks for the sex trade and the reason is the billboards you see upon crossing the river. "Sin drags you down to hell" and whatnot. And don't forget about inflation driving up costs. These are all things you can blame for the St Louis scene. But none of it is organic. It was all created by some internal force seeking to makes things better.

We are both to blame and also have no control over what happens. It's a dual edge blade unfortunately. The best bet is to travel elsewhere for the talent, or adjust to the new reality.

[QUOTE=DeadDead22;5708202]But the understanding of economics is what allows you to understand why things are the way they are. It's always about supply and demand. But the more salient point is that no one is forcing anybody to visit these girls. They visit and pay more than usual because the supply is down (caused by regulation) and the demand is either the same or higher. That's why the economics lesson (albeit brief) is so important. There isn't a large enough block of men that can bad together and force prices down. The price has been forced up by regulation. It always is. The fallacy is thinking that capitalism is responsible for inflation and overpricing. It never is. It's always the regulation that causes it.

So not to pontificate, but I don't condemn people for their tastes or kinks. I don't detest people or "overpaying". That's on them. I have no problem with girl "A" charging $300 for sniffing her asshole and pegging some dude in a motel 6. Why? Not my money. I don't use list crawler. Doesn't mean I rail against it's existence. Let people have their things. As long as they don't use my money to do it. Is supply shitty now? Yes. But you can't blame "the market" The market is an organism outside of human control, driven by the collective activity of a society. Blame the regulation that always precedes it. FOSTA-SESTA drove a lot of the low hanging fruit higher up the tree, including the hotter ones. It created artificial scarcity, because it became less profitable to advertise and see anybody and everybody. But it's also St Louis politics. St Louis sucks for the sex trade and the reason is the billboards you see upon crossing the river. "Sin drags you down to hell" and whatnot. And don't forget about inflation driving up costs. These are all things you can blame for the St Louis scene. But none of it is organic. It was all created by some internal force seeking to makes things better.

We are both to blame and also have no control over what happens. It's a dual edge blade unfortunately. The best bet is to travel elsewhere for the talent, or adjust to the new reality.[/QUOTE]Also lets not forget the nature of something like the pandemic. Other outlets such as * and sites similar weren't really mainstream until the past year or so. A lot of the workers decided they could make easy money without even touching a client which has caused scarecty in the market. Even the average / cute ones you would see on the regular are all but gone. Things were drastically different before Covid on all fronts. Its less about the people who are paying and more about the drastic shift that society has gone through. Which is really out of our control. Still, at the end of the day you are correct. There is only a market if men are willing to spend money.

[QUOTE=DeadDead22;5708202]But the understanding of economics is what allows you to understand why things are the way they are. It's always about supply and demand. But the more salient point is that no one is forcing anybody to visit these girls. They visit and pay more than usual because the supply is down (caused by regulation) and the demand is either the same or higher. That's why the economics lesson (albeit brief) is so important. There isn't a large enough block of men that can bad together and force prices down. The price has been forced up by regulation. It always is. The fallacy is thinking that capitalism is responsible for inflation and overpricing. It never is. It's always the regulation that causes it.

So not to pontificate, but I don't condemn people for their tastes or kinks. I don't detest people or "overpaying". That's on them. I have no problem with girl "A" charging $300 for sniffing her asshole and pegging some dude in a motel 6. Why? Not my money. I don't use list crawler. Doesn't mean I rail against it's existence. Let people have their things. As long as they don't use my money to do it. Is supply shitty now? Yes. But you can't blame "the market" The market is an organism outside of human control, driven by the collective activity of a society. Blame the regulation that always precedes it. FOSTA-SESTA drove a lot of the low hanging fruit higher up the tree, including the hotter ones. It created artificial scarcity, because it became less profitable to advertise and see anybody and everybody. But it's also St Louis politics. St Louis sucks for the sex trade and the reason is the billboards you see upon crossing the river. "Sin drags you down to hell" and whatnot. And don't forget about inflation driving up costs. These are all things you can blame for the St Louis scene. But none of it is organic. It was all created by some internal force seeking to makes things better.

We are both to blame and also have no control over what happens. It's a dual edge blade unfortunately. The best bet is to travel elsewhere for the talent, or adjust to the new reality.[/QUOTE]However, every market has its fluctuations. The more that a provider can make, the greater number of providers there will be until the demand cannot support and then prices decrease. Where the top or bottom of the market exists can't be predicted or contolled. But I hope the high end of the price graph has been reached. However. I appreciate the comments back and forth on this board to expect higher standards from people we are paying. Who's going to hold them accountable for bad behavior if we don't? Cheers.

[QUOTE=CarJamm1;5708160]Hey all. Last night I contacted 4 different girls off LC and we worked out times, rates etc. Then without fail in all 4 instances they last thing I heard was: "I need a deposit to book the appointment".

Well guess what? 4 girls didn't make any money at all. I guess most the girls off that site are getting in on the scam.[/QUOTE]This is the weird conversations I have with like 75% of Tinder girls. They want a deposit and when I call them out for being scammer they say "why would I scam you out of $200 when I am going to get $400 if we meet? I always respond with "because if I pay you a $200 deposit, you get $200 for doing nothing. Why would you then take $200 for sex when you just got $200 for nothing? Inevitably the conversation ends there because they can't keep the scam after that. I have had 4 different girls send me the same 'verification' picture when I tell them I want them to prove they are actually in STL. I got the first one, a random picture of the arch from a car on PSB, and saved it. Two days later, a different account sent me the exact same picture and when I sent it back to her with a 'funny, I got that same pic two days ago' comment, she called me a scammer and blocked me.

[QUOTE=Apache77;5706460]I had the pleasure of ringing in the new year with Violetta ([URL]http://www.tallredv.com/[/URL]) and I was quite happy with the experience! A very tall and lovely lady who does a great job at oral which is what works for me. I was reminded of the old Maxwell House coffee ads that said "Good to the last drop" since she definitely stays with it. If you see her because of this post you might mention that John the dog lover recommended her and perhaps I'll score some brownie points although I didn't need any on the last visit![/QUOTE]At that price point, I better be able to but whatever I want, wherever I want, however I want.

[QUOTE=DeadDead22;5708202]But the understanding of economics is what allows you to understand why things are the way they are. It's always about supply and demand. But the more salient point is that no one is forcing anybody to visit these girls. They visit and pay more than usual because the supply is down (caused by regulation) and the demand is either the same or higher. That's why the economics lesson (albeit brief) is so important. There isn't a large enough block of men that can bad together and force prices down. The price has been forced up by regulation. It always is. The fallacy is thinking that capitalism is responsible for inflation and overpricing. It never is. It's always the regulation that causes it.

So not to pontificate, but I don't condemn people for their tastes or kinks. I don't detest people or "overpaying". That's on them. I have no problem with girl "A" charging $300 for sniffing her asshole and pegging some dude in a motel 6. Why? Not my money. I don't use list crawler. Doesn't mean I rail against it's existence. Let people have their things. As long as they don't use my money to do it. Is supply shitty now? Yes. But you can't blame "the market" The market is an organism outside of human control, driven by the collective activity of a society. Blame the regulation that always precedes it. FOSTA-SESTA drove a lot of the low hanging fruit higher up the tree, including the hotter ones. It created artificial scarcity, because it became less profitable to advertise and see anybody and everybody. But it's also St Louis politics. St Louis sucks for the sex trade and the reason is the billboards you see upon crossing the river. "Sin drags you down to hell" and whatnot. And don't forget about inflation driving up costs. These are all things you can blame for the St Louis scene. But none of it is organic. It was all created by some internal force seeking to makes things better.

We are both to blame and also have no control over what happens. It's a dual edge blade unfortunately. The best bet is to travel elsewhere for the talent, or adjust to the new reality.[/QUOTE]Why does it always boil down to someone thinking they understand economics more than someone else? I say do not fall for the okie doke. Any woman posting an ad putting her body and sexual favors for sale is in a state of serious desperation. You can mull around all the economic theorems you like but if we all started taking a pass on these substandard women posing as professional escorts the market would change. Not by rationalization and acceptance.

There is no workable ratio between supply and demand if the supply is lousy. Let them keep their supply. As I stated, we are the ones with jobs, we have the money. They are the ones who have to do this for a living.