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Saw this one in Griffin. She was easy to set up and really cool. Everything is covered. CBJ was good and she let me hit it doggy. She's really nice also and absolutely zero drama! Here is her link.
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[QUOTE=BabyV12;4352673]Saw this one in Griffin. She was easy to set up and really cool. Everything is covered. CBJ was good and she let me hit it doggy. She's really nice also and absolutely zero drama! Here is her link.
[URL]https://independent.com.atlanta.listcrawler.com/post/34138859/[/URL]# I hope I did that right. If not PM me for her number.[/QUOTE]What was the damage on this one?
[QUOTE=Tkenn78;4352484]Hello gents, first off thanks for having me. I have frequented this forum for years, just never posted.
I have a big pussy lip fetish and am trying to find a provider with really big pussy lips. I have seen a few but do not want to keep rolling the dice trying to find the one. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Can't help, but.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/LabiaGW/[/URL]
Saw her very recently. She's legit. Easy going and a lot of fun.
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DM.
Met up with her at hotel she paid for. Made me nervous since I had not met her yet, but everything went fine. Slim, 30-something girl, nice personality. Easy to work with and discrete. Got comfy, went down on her. Nice tight pussy. She gave me BBBJ then covered FS. Cowgirl, mish, then doggy. Full 60 minutes. I will repeat. Tits - 5 (small, big nips) Ass - 7 Face - 6 Performance - 8 Personality - 9 damage was 3. 5.
[QUOTE=Tkenn78;4352484]Hello gents, first off thanks for having me. I have frequented this forum for years, just never posted.
I have a big pussy lip fetish and am trying to find a provider with really big pussy lips. I have seen a few but do not want to keep rolling the dice trying to find the one. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE][URL]https://escortindex.com/ad/atlanta/470-815-8245/1/3398168[/URL]
That big?
Hello hello,
I'm headed to your great city for the first time ever for work and was wondering if play girls is true GFE as advertised. Any intel would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
I'm a long time lurker with my first real post.
So I meant a provider at a party. She told me she was in a hotel and to look her up. I'm not into escorts but I wanted her in particular, so I find her and text her. I remind her who I am and its a easy setup.
So I arrive in this dream and she's in a little Notel. She greets me in nothing but a long shirt and we chit chat for a second. She asks for a slab. Now I didn't have one so I went to the closet gas station for one.
So I get back with the slab and the dream starts. Standard service but since we've been talking she's into it. Stars mish then doggy, during doggy things got intense with her getting really into it. I feel that familiar feeling and blows a LARGE saved up load.
I pull out and see the rubber had broke, I'm panicking. We get dressed and rush to get a plan b. She rides with me and oddly acts turned on by the cum dropping out of her in this dream. After a couple of stressful weeks her papers come back negative. No baby or std.
This is my first report and will be the last after this stress. I don't want to post her ad nor see her again in life.
[QUOTE=Tkenn78;4352484]Hello gents, first off thanks for having me. I have frequented this forum for years, just never posted.
I have a big pussy lip fetish and am trying to find a provider with really big pussy lips. I have seen a few but do not want to keep rolling the dice trying to find the one. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4352865]Can't help, but.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/LabiaGW/[/URL][/QUOTE]Must see for any pussy lip lover, LOL.
I had a dream with Sunny's Lena 2 weeks ago in a 3 stars hotel! I have not dreamt about her since last November, and she is always my go-to for petite in ATL. In my dream when I opened the door, I was shocked, because she is super thin, more like under 80 lbs, and I like the way she was when she was around 95-100 lbs. She is still very friendly, and aim to please. True GFE, and still very sensitive, which turns me on all the time. Not sure I want to repeat because she is seriously under weight right now, which felt like crashing bones.
[QUOTE=PhilC111;4352662]Hey fellow hobbyists,
Long time lurker but haven't been in the game in a while. I used to be a member of TER till it got shutdown by the government so I don't feel that there's a reliable source of information for providers. I'm looking at them premium membership and was wondering if this is a decent site for good info?
Happy mongering!
Phil.[/QUOTE]Not worth it to me.
[QUOTE=DiscreetMeet;4353053]Saw her very recently. She's legit. Easy going and a lot of fun.
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DM.[/QUOTE]BBBJ? CFS? Greek? $damage?
Thanks.
Hey guys. I met with this chick a couple of weeks ago in Norcross one late evening. Got to a shitty motel with potholes everywhere and almost fucked up my whip. Parked my car and called her and she came out of her room to meet me. Once I'm laid the bones on the table and got to talking. The room was somewhat tidy with a pile of clothes on the corner of the room on the floor and the room was hazy with a cloud of cigarette smoke. We both washed our hands and I checked the bathroom for LE. Stripped down on the bed and I could see her pasty tatted body. She's definitely got a decent bod with slightly sagging breast a couple of stretch marks but nothing off putting. Started with a BBBJ that was nice and proceeded to put the cover on and went in to her backdoor I'm k9. She didn't use any line so it was a little difficult to enter. But once in, I got to work. After a couple of minutes I popped. Got a few seconds to rest and then had her givin me too to get my little man back to action. Put another cover and and went into the kitty in k9. Once done I cleaned up and we said our goodbyes.
All in all it was a good experience. 80 bones for 20 minutes and 2 tickets.
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Happy mongering!
[QUOTE=Audipwr;4353680]I had a dream with Sunny's Lena 2 weeks ago in a 3 stars hotel! I have not dreamt about her since last November, and she is always my go-to for petite in ATL. In my dream when I opened the door, I was shocked, because she is super thin, more like under 80 lbs, and I like the way she was when she was around 95-100 lbs. She is still very friendly, and aim to please. True GFE, and still very sensitive, which turns me on all the time. Not sure I want to repeat because she is seriously under weight right now, which felt like crashing bones.[/QUOTE]Totally agree! Saw her two weeks ago and she looked like she just walked out of Auschwitz.
Gave this a shot -.
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I knew it would be a bait and switch, and it was. New to all of this, so I figured I needed to at least try out one of these places. I though there would be 2 to choose from, but only one was there when I got there. It was a decent dream, CBJ CFS She tried to do a little massage, but I was OK with just getting down to it. Room smelled like cigarettes. Total damage was 1. 4. I'll chalk this up to a newbie experience and start focusing more on the suggestions from you fine gents. Not sure if they rotate out and how often, but once in a while there has to be decent one. Right?
[QUOTE=Davilsiii;4354578]Gave this a shot -.
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I knew it would be a bait and switch, and it was. New to all of this, so I figured I needed to at least try out one of these places. I though there would be 2 to choose from, but only one was there when I got there. It was a decent dream, CBJ CFS She tried to do a little massage, but I was OK with just getting down to it. Room smelled like cigarettes. Total damage was 1. 4. I'll chalk this up to a newbie experience and start focusing more on the suggestions from you fine gents. Not sure if they rotate out and how often, but once in a while there has to be decent one. Right?[/QUOTE]They'll be average at best as you probably saw, no 9's or 10's and it's normal to only have 1 or 2 to choose from.
Hey guys.
I hooked up with erika last night, yes she is still preggo 6 mths to be exact. Gave her a text asked how much for the baby fund, she hit bk with 60, I say cool.
I get to her spot near pleasant hill area, she hit me with the rm num. Once and we greeted then proceeded with business. She's a short thing LOL she started with bbj, then doggie, then switched 2 miss. The box was nice & wet of course, she let me hit it pretty decently no complaints. After some good pumps I finished in bag, she creamed pretty good on the noodle also. After, she wiped me off with a warm towel, we got dressed then I bounced.
All and all.
She is a repeat 4 me, if you've got a preggo fetish better get her while it last. LOL.
No drama either from her.
I know someone mentioned that.
Notel, is easy and easy out.
Hope my contribution helped.
Play safe sneeker.
[QUOTE=WhatAreThose;4352390]I have not seen her in a long time but she did reach out asking for money for rent and baby stuff. She stays hard up for cash (more than the normal) and I think that may be a disaster in the making. She's cool but not worth the hassle for me. As always have better luck than me!
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[QUOTE=Brighton21;4353097]Met up with her at hotel she paid for. Made me nervous since I had not met her yet, but everything went fine. Slim, 30-something girl, nice personality. Easy to work with and discrete. Got comfy, went down on her. Nice tight pussy. She gave me BBBJ then covered FS. Cowgirl, mish, then doggy. Full 60 minutes. I will repeat. Tits - 5 (small, big nips) Ass - 7 Face - 6 Performance - 8 Personality - 9 damage was 3. 5.[/QUOTE]She used to work at a strip club, forgot her name. She has been nothing short of very nice to me. YMMV. Always nice, never rude, professional. I thought she quit though. I always had a good time with her, that was a few years ago though.
Sneeker where does Erika post or how to find contact information.
Hi could you pass on her contact information? And what the danger was?
[QUOTE=Audipwr;4353680]I had a dream with Sunny's Lena 2 weeks ago in a 3 stars hotel! I have not dreamt about her since last November, and she is always my go-to for petite in ATL. In my dream when I opened the door, I was shocked, because she is super thin, more like under 80 lbs, and I like the way she was when she was around 95-100 lbs. She is still very friendly, and aim to please. True GFE, and still very sensitive, which turns me on all the time. Not sure I want to repeat because she is seriously under weight right now, which felt like crashing bones.[/QUOTE]
Looks like baby number two is in the oven Hahahaha man it has been a while since I seen her!
[QUOTE=Sneeker;4354805]Hey guys.
I hooked up with erika last night, yes she is still preggo 6 mths to be exact. Gave her a text asked how much for the baby fund, she hit bk with 60, I say cool.
I get to her spot near pleasant hill area, she hit me with the rm num. Once and we greeted then proceeded with business. She's a short thing LOL she started with bbj, then doggie, then switched 2 miss. The box was nice & wet of course, she let me hit it pretty decently no complaints. After some good pumps I finished in bag, she creamed pretty good on the noodle also. After, she wiped me off with a warm towel, we got dressed then I bounced.
All and all.
She is a repeat 4 me, if you've got a preggo fetish better get her while it last. LOL.
No drama either from her.
I know someone mentioned that.
Notel, is easy and easy out.
Hope my contribution helped.
Play safe sneeker.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Davilsiii;4354578]Gave this a shot -.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/georgia/atlanta/female-escorts/1517759[/URL]
I knew it would be a bait and switch, and it was. New to all of this, so I figured I needed to at least try out one of these places. I though there would be 2 to choose from, but only one was there when I got there. It was a decent dream, CBJ CFS She tried to do a little massage, but I was OK with just getting down to it. Room smelled like cigarettes. Total damage was 1. 4. I'll chalk this up to a newbie experience and start focusing more on the suggestions from you fine gents. Not sure if they rotate out and how often, but once in a while there has to be decent one. Right?[/QUOTE]The apartments have been hit and miss for me. More miss, but the one that hit was great. Over off clairemont and 85,30 ish year old with great tits and a nice personality. Could actually hold a pleasant conversation, though thru translation app. Would allow 2 pops in an hr window for 180, gave good head and was an enthusiastic fuck. Saw her twice before she rotated out. Next chick was a grumpy 50 year old, so you're always rolling the dice. No girl seems to last more than a few weeks.
MJ is a great MILF experience with competitive pricing for anyone near the airport. DFK, BBBJ, CIM are all on the menu, no backdoor passes on this trip. 80/120/200, multiples allowed. Tell her you are a friend of mine.
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[QUOTE=Davilsiii;4354578]Gave this a shot -.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/georgia/atlanta/female-escorts/1517759[/URL]
I knew it would be a bait and switch, and it was. New to all of this, so I figured I needed to at least try out one of these places. I though there would be 2 to choose from, but only one was there when I got there. It was a decent dream, CBJ CFS She tried to do a little massage, but I was OK with just getting down to it. Room smelled like cigarettes. Total damage was 1. 4. I'll chalk this up to a newbie experience and start focusing more on the suggestions from you fine gents. Not sure if they rotate out and how often, but once in a while there has to be decent one. Right?[/QUOTE]Won't ever have 10's, the pics they use are actual models you don't get those LOL. Some that rotate in are decent, as in cute have been using them for quick release due to close proximity. But after seeing them / similar for more than 3 years may have only seen 4-5 that were model petite and very pretty. Trust me when you see one don't expect to get another one on next visit. If you want model type Asians there is only 1 agency that offers what you want and haha good luck getting through, they have been very selective on who they allow in that group, if you get in consider yourself lucky and enjoy!
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Visited for an hour.
The pictures are exact. No filters, no funny angles, what you see is what opens the door. Tiny little spinner and not a mark on her. No sign of abuse of any kind. Lucid and sober. Her body is TIGHT.
Regular notel room but the inside was clean and organized.
Made out, played around, finished with a BBBJCIM. Not the best I ever had, no DT I was pushing her down to get it deeper and she looked and said that is as deep as she can go. Wasn't rude or off putting just letting me know that's all she had. However BJ's are like pizza, some are better than others, sometimes you find some that are amazing but I've never had bad pizza. She would be a solid 6/10.
I do not partake in FS but with her body and petite but healthy frame I imagine the visuals would be amazing. She has piercings, tongue, nipples, belly button and clit if that turns you on.
Probably wouldn't repeat, she was a little high for the area. I have found much better mic skills for less, but you FS guys, about as good of a body I found. There are some bodies among the rub girls in town that are hard to beat but as far as the escort scene, she's the best.
She is sweet and fun so treat her right if you go by.
[QUOTE=TheRonChapman;4356455][URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3059777[/URL]
Visited for an hour.
The pictures are exact. No filters, no funny angles, what you see is what opens the door. Tiny little spinner and not a mark on her. No sign of abuse of any kind. Lucid and sober. Her body is TIGHT.
Regular motel room but the inside was clean and organized.
Made out, played around, finished with a BBBJCIM. Not the best I ever had, no DT I was pushing her down to get it deeper and she looked and said that is as deep as she can go. Wasn't rude or off putting just letting me know that's all she had. However BJ's are like pizza, some are better than others, sometimes you find some that are amazing but I've never had bad pizza. She would be a solid 6/10.
I do not partake in FS but with her body and petite but healthy frame I imagine the visuals would be amazing. She has piercings, tongue, nipples, belly button and clit if that turns you on.
Probably wouldn't repeat, she was a little high for the area. I have found much better mic skills for less, but you FS guys, about as good of a body I found. There are some bodies among the rub girls in town that are hard to beat but as far as the escort scene, she's the best.
She is sweet and fun so treat her right if you go by.[/QUOTE]So, you're saying you paid $300 for a blow job only? Her ad says $300 for the incall hour. Am I reading this correctly?
[QUOTE=BuckOwens;4326858]I have seen her too. Not too bad of an apartment. Sparse on furniture and set up for a two girl incall. Place didn't smell to badly of smoke. She was shower fresh and friendly. I met her girlfriend a BBW and said hello. She seemed pleasant enough. Got down to business and everything was covered. Decent CBJ followed by mish and doggie to finish. Wipes for cleanup. I enjoyed the encounter and will repeat for a qv. She said Greek is off the table but her girlfriend will entertain. No sign of a handler but wouldn't be surprised if one was nearby.[/QUOTE]I saw Misha again today. Similar service, sober, conversant, super clean and friendly in a New York kind of way. My concern with her was that it was evident she had been beaten on. Not so much her face but her back / torso had visible bruising and scrapes. Not sure what is going on with her but it's not good. I gently mentioned it and she said she had an allergic reaction. To her handlers fists? Anywho, I feel bad for her. No sign of the handler in her spot but abuse don't lie.
Stay Safe!
Buck.
This question might sound weird, but I see a lot of posts doing BBBJ. Aren't you guys worried? Or I m just too paranoid.
Had a session with this scammer recently. It was an easy 2 call system. I told her what I was looking for and she actually offered me more. I asked for 2 rounds, 30 minutes at 1 Benjamin and she countered with I can pop as many as I like in the time. So I told her that's nice of her but I can only muster out 2. Off to the location I went and was greeted by a woman who looked nothing like the pics. I don't know if it was because of the lack of make up or various hairstyles in her pics. Might have been a catfish. She was a below average looking woman but had a nice thick body with a bit of gut. Her big breast and butt made up for the face. She handed me a condom to put on but I told her your ad states sloppy bbj so we are going start there for round 1. She said that is fine and proceeded with a decent bbj. It was not sloppy at all or any kind of deep throating. After 5 minutes of the sucky sucky, I unloaded in her mouth to complete round 1. She got up and went to the bathroom to spit it out plus brought me some wipes to clean up. She laid in the bed then started playing with her phone while we had some talk. About 3 minutes in our conversation I told her that I was ready to go again. Of course you all know what came next out of her mouth. "Oh no baby, you probably going to have to go. I have another 'client' that is on the way. Let me call him to see how far away he is. He said that he was just a couple of minutes away. " Me. I paid you for 30 minutes multi pops and told you that 2 rounds is sufficient enough. Her - "I'm sorry baby but I got to make money to pay my rent. " I told her that was dirty, got dressed, and just walked out. Her "client" was just her pimp she was letting know that I was getting the boot. So basically I paid 100 for a 5 minute bbj. I drove almost an hour to see this broad and she was the third choice on my list. Women like this make the hobby so frustrating.
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[QUOTE=PirateSkul;4356759]This question might sound weird, but I see a lot of posts doing BBBJ. Aren't you guys worried? Or I m just too paranoid.[/QUOTE]Not so much from BBBJ. Everything in life is a risk, though.
Anyone have any recommendations on what they would consider a pse?
This girl seems hot. Anybody know anything about her?
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[QUOTE=Atlanta6969;4357507]This girl seems hot. Anybody know anything about her?
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.atlanta.listcrawler.com/post/35147281/[/URL][/QUOTE]She's been around for yrs. Usually stays around Marietta.
Qv for. 6 but sometimes puts specials out. 5 qv BBBJ cfs.
[QUOTE=BuckOwens;4356710]I saw Misha again today. Similar service, sober, conversant, super clean and friendly in a New York kind of way. My concern with her was that it was evident she had been beaten on. Not so much her face but her back / torso had visible bruising and scrapes. Not sure what is going on with her but it's not good. I gently mentioned it and she said she had an allergic reaction. To her handlers fists? Anywho, I feel bad for her. No sign of the handler in her spot but abuse don't lie.
Stay Safe!
Buck.[/QUOTE]The first time spoke with her I did hear a mans voice in the background. When I got to her location he was not insite but there was another girl in the living room. I'm pretty sure they have a pimp / guy friend there LOL.
[QUOTE=PirateSkul;4356759]This question might sound weird, but I see a lot of posts doing BBBJ. Aren't you guys worried? Or I m just too paranoid.[/QUOTE]You should know that it's always a gamble when doing anything bare.
[QUOTE=Aloha807;4357518]She's been around for yrs. Usually stays around Marietta.
Qv for. 6 but sometimes puts specials out. 5 qv BBBJ cfs.[/QUOTE][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/21063753/6785686044[/URL]
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That big?[/QUOTE]Went to check her out at her private apartment off of 92 in Woodstock / Kennesaw. Since it was my first time, her screening process (all communications via text) involved asking me to bring her Newports or a $5 lottery ticket (or any $5 item from the store); talking to her when I got there she said her lawyer had advised her that uncle LEO was not allowed to buy a gift because that would be enticement or entrapment (not sure if that's true but whatever).
Anyway got her a scratch off and headed out to her place which were some nice apartments. Parked and let her know I had arrived at which point she sent me the apartment number. Left my wallet and phone in the car and went to the apartment. She let me in and she was the girl in the pics. She took me straight through to her bedroom (shared with someone else but did not see them) and locked the door. She smokes so there was a light smoke smell but it was barely there; she had a mattress on the floor. Left the donation and scratch off on her dresser and got undressed.
Laid down while she set up the music and got undressed as well. She barely has A cups but some eraser tip nipples, and a little pooch. Played with her eraser tips a bit before she gave me a CBJ which had some medium suction to it. When I was ready, had her get into doggy and slipped in after she lubed up. There was some medium friction to her walls and even better, she kept throwing it back to the point I just stayed still and enjoyed the ride. Had her move into prone bone position (laid down on her stomach and legs together while I come in from behind) which I find tightens her up even more. Finally put her in mish with her legs by my shoulders so I could get in deep and blew a load in the bag! Rate is usually 75 but because it was slow she had a 60 special. She had no smells, looked pretty good, and did not seem to be clock watching. Definitely going to repeat!
[QUOTE=Aloha807;4357543][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/21063753/6785686044[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a heavy smoker so her room tends to have that overpowering smoke smell. Something to keep in mind if you have a SO.
[QUOTE=Aloha807;4357518]She's been around for yrs. Usually stays around Marietta.
Qv for. 6 but sometimes puts specials out. 5 qv BBBJ cfs.[/QUOTE]Yep. Agree. She's in the Marietta / Kennesaw area. I've seen her a few times. Gets better once she knows you. I'd consider her one of my regulars.
[QUOTE=PirateSkul;4356759]This question might sound weird, but I see a lot of posts doing BBBJ. Aren't you guys worried? Or I m just too paranoid.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if I should talk about this in this forum, but since you mentioned it and your post is still there, I'll give my. 02.
I assume you are talking about the three letter acronym that starts with H.
Unless there has been new research in the past couple of years. Everything I found says there is a less than 1% chance of getting it from receiving a BBBJ and around a 3% chance of getting it if you give one (not that I'm going to find out). They said that the couples they studied, the givers that seroconverted had done it after having recent dental surgery. Something about saliva kills it, as does exposure to air. - shrug- The CDC says the chances are much higher. They also say the chances of getting some of the more common afflictions, are equally as dangerous.
I can only speak for myself. But I have been in this hobby for over 30 years and have gotten thousands of BBBJ. Some of which were from pretty seedy people and locations. I went to a place in Spain one time where a woman was giving $5 BBJ to guy after guy night after night. Hey, it was the 80's what can I say? I took my turn too, almost every night, hell I was young and there were a couple of times I got back in line with another fiver in my hand. In all those years I have never gotten anything worse than a tooth scrape from a BBBJ. That's not to say in my early days when protection was less common, I caught the green fire a couple of times. I don't do BFS any more, mostly because too many of you yahoos will do BFS and I don't trust ya'all sick mother fuckers. But I almost insist on BBBJ, and if it's not on the menu, I pass, if she tricks me after I'm there, she gets one shot irrespective of how attractive she is.
Having said that, remember the risks in this hobby are subjective. One guy may be fine and dandy poking a SW beside a dumpster bare, but won't do anal with her, while the next guy will do both. Then you have the ones that wear a body condom if they get a hand job.
I recommend doing your own research and using that information to determine your comfort level. Don't just Google it. Use Google Scholar, or if you are a college alumnus you probably have access to their online library. It's been 25 years and I can use my Alma Mater's online library. Take anything you read here, including this post with a grain of salt. Unless someone is speaking directly from experience chances are they are full of shit or they heard someone that heard someone that read somewhere. Fill in the blank.