Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=DS080;3647886]Does anyone know what CC 109 is now? I know it used to be Happy's old shop. I was passing by. It looks like legit massage parlor now. But I thought it's odd the open sign is lit 7 in the morning. Is this legit massage only? HE offered? Sorry if this sounds like an obvious question. I been away from the AMP scenes here.[/QUOTE]It's a strictly legit place. I tried them a couple months ago. My usual massage therapist was out of town and I just wanted a good legit massage that was convenient so decided to try them after seeing some positive comments. Standard fees. Two women and a male, all Chinese. I forgot which of the women I got a massage from but I would rate it as fairly good. I would go back.

[QUOTE=PeaceHawaii;3651710]Have you guys ever try to take the girl to dinner before bringing her back for "dessert"?

Can the mama be against it?

(I have seen the girl twice and we clicked very well but I don't have her contact and I have limited opportunity to figure that out before I can see the girl again; my plan is to walk to the "office" and ask the girl and / or the mama if we can meet for the following day. But I don't want to look foolish if mama says absolutely not.).

Thanks for sharing your experience![/QUOTE]Yes, I go out with girls all the time. I usually buy lunch or dinner and they go because we have a relationship. If you don't have her telephone number, you are not even at first base. NEVER ask the mama to take a girl out. If you do, you will be paying for her time. You will pay the hourly rate for the AMP plus the girls hourly rate. Most mama's won't allow you to do that unless you are a VIP and known monger because the risk to the girl is too high.

If you want to go out with an AMP girl, you have to have game, or you are paying a lot for the experience or will get summarily rejected.

When you get good at it, the girl will ask you out.

[QUOTE=OneHarnyFaka;3646005]After reading the reports on this busty little thing, decided to check her out last week and am I sure glad I did. She is tiny, definitely under 5' and stacked with very large naturals. She isn't a spinner which would be odd since she is so stacked up top. She is a freak! If ever someone choose the right profession, it is this little sexpot. Arrived at her spot in CC to a pleasant sight of her in bikini top and cute little shorts. Self showered then a decent massage for about 20 minutes before the teasing began. On the flip I was informed that a monthly visitor would be arriving so FS was off the table. Boy did she more than make up for it. I can't remember ever having my cock worshipped like that before, whether mongering or civilian. It was amazing. I ended up blowing in Russian between those god-given gifts. I can't wait to head back![/QUOTE]Where can I find this sexpot? You can PM me if you want. Mahaloz.

[QUOTE=PeaceHawaii;3651710]Have you guys ever try to take the girl to dinner before bringing her back for "dessert"?

Can the mama be against it?

(I have seen the girl twice and we clicked very well but I don't have her contact and I have limited opportunity to figure that out before I can see the girl again; my plan is to walk to the "office" and ask the girl and / or the mama if we can meet for the following day. But I don't want to look foolish if mama says absolutely not.).

Thanks for sharing your experience![/QUOTE]It happens but these girls are experienced with all sorts of men and have a high degree of intuition as to whom they trust and feel comfortable with. They can tell if there is something strange with a guy and will then just keep it as business. But when a girl offers you her phone number without your asking, then you know you she is interested in maintaining contact and you cleared her initial check of you. It could be just for continued business as a favored customer or it could be that she sees some reason to want to be friends and possibly do things outside of business such as dining out or sightseeing when she can get away from the AMP. You have to figure that out. If she wants to charge you for her time then it's business as a favored customer. And it has to be on her free time or else you would have to pay the house for the time you take her out. From past experience, the new ones in town seem to be more open to gathering contacts and acquaintances. But remember, most of these women can read you like a book.

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3654612]It happens but these girls are experienced with all sorts of men and have a high degree of intuition as to whom they trust and feel comfortable with. They can tell if there is something strange with a guy and will then just keep it as business. But when a girl offers you her phone number without your asking, then you know you she is interested in maintaining contact and you cleared her initial check of you. It could be just for continued business as a favored customer or it could be that she sees some reason to want to be friends and possibly do things outside of business such as dining out or sightseeing when she can get away from the AMP. You have to figure that out. If she wants to charge you for her time then it's business as a favored customer. And it has to be on her free time or else you would have to pay the house for the time you take her out. From past experience, the new ones in town seem to be more open to gathering contacts and acquaintances. But remember, most of these women can read you like a book.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't do it anymore or just go in with the mentality of a short term fling. A hot girl getting fucked my many guys dealing in such a secretive business is no foundation for a strong relationship. I've gone out with several, done all kinds of things- mall, movies, dinner, play pool, free fucks at home without any charges and here's what I learned. Not worth it if you looking for something serious. But your mind gets fucked with. Then when you go f her at work you are like, do I still have to pay for this? She is fucking all these guys, but she wouldn't want me to fuck anyone else. Too much headache for them and you. I just use them for emergency fuck now days.

As for telling mama, absolutely fucking no. Its secret between you and the girl. But then again, if this is the only way you can get a girl is to find amp girls who are paid to interact with you at work, have fun. I prefer non-working girls anyday.

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3654801]I wouldn't do it anymore or just go in with the mentality of a short term fling. A hot girl getting fucked my many guys dealing in such a secretive business is no foundation for a strong relationship. I've gone out with several, done all kinds of things- mall, movies, dinner, play pool, free fucks at home without any charges and here's what I learned. Not worth it if you looking for something serious. But your mind gets fucked with. Then when you go f her at work you are like, do I still have to pay for this? She is fucking all these guys, but she wouldn't want me to fuck anyone else. Too much headache for them and you. I just use them for emergency fuck now days.

As for telling mama, absolutely fucking no. Its secret between you and the girl. But then again, if this is the only way you can get a girl is to find amp girls who are paid to interact with you at work, have fun. I prefer non-working girls anyday.[/QUOTE]P. venkman is right guys don't get involve or think you can have a relationship in my experience you will get all screwed up eventually crazy things will come to you like who she's with every time who's her clients it's crazy not worth it trust me just get in and get out go to the next don't get involve or you will be sorry just my view.

Oh man, Kelly Ichiban!

At Ichiban, she'd insist on Panda or one of the ramen places before going back and fucking my brains out. At Ginza, it was Budnamujib. At Hula Girl and Golden Spa, it was Ong Dong or Yakiniku Seoul. She was the owner / partner / alpha female, so she could make her own rules with regards to this sort of stuff.

Damn, I miss that woman.

[QUOTE=PeaceHawaii;3651710]Have you guys ever try to take the girl to dinner before bringing her back for "dessert"?

Can the mama be against it?

(I have seen the girl twice and we clicked very well but I don't have her contact and I have limited opportunity to figure that out before I can see the girl again; my plan is to walk to the "office" and ask the girl and / or the mama if we can meet for the following day. But I don't want to look foolish if mama says absolutely not.).

Thanks for sharing your experience![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeaceHawaii;3651710]Have you guys ever try to take the girl to dinner before bringing her back for "dessert"?

Can the mama be against it?

(I have seen the girl twice and we clicked very well but I don't have her contact and I have limited opportunity to figure that out before I can see the girl again; my plan is to walk to the "office" and ask the girl and / or the mama if we can meet for the following day. But I don't want to look foolish if mama says absolutely not.).

Thanks for sharing your experience![/QUOTE]You can ask her out but remember it could cost you if she agrees. If she is a newbee you may have a chance. Just keep in mind that she may also "clicks" with many many guys. These women are pros at what they do and they can read their customers like a book. They know exactly what to do and how to perform for their customers to come back and see them. They put on a very seductive act and knows the weakness of their clients and let them do all the talking. They are very street smart and will milk you for what they can get. Can you imagine how many clients they service in a day, in a week, in a month? They have seen and heard it all. Been in the hobby for a long long time and understand their goals for their future. They perform and buy the things that all women want like nice clothes, jewelry, expensive bags, nice luxury vehicles, properties are just few items on their most wanted needs. These women understand the system, buying real estate and having good legal advice from attorneys. They are in a very lucrative buisness and have shills helping them advertise (no offense to anyone of you out there). Girls are smart, they may only appear uneducated. They earn as much or more than most physicians. One local provider told me she occasionally works when she wants to earn a few thousand dollars in a short time.

They also like to read this forum as I have been told.

I've taken a few out in my days but its not worth it even if the sex is free. Loose money in the long haul. IMHO, just go out and have fun don't expect any type of relationship. However, during the outing I have learned from the girls how the massage business works, their goals in life and how the business thrives.

The above statements are only opinions so hopefully I did not offend anyone out there. Sorry if I did.

Hello, business traveler will be in Waikiki for 5 nights and not used to the AMP scene here. I've read the forums but hoping for some help. If you has one girl to pick for the following, who would it be.

Good therapeutic but sensual massage; cute youngish Asian (20's), athletic build (smallish), allows some roaming, near Waikiki. Just looking for full hour massage and HE. Bonuses would be showering with me and allows DATY, LFK also would be nice. Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=DrGyno;3656399]You can ask her out but remember it could cost you if she agrees. If she is a newbee you may have a chance. Just keep in mind that she may also "clicks" with many many guys. These women are pros at what they do and they can read their customers like a book. They know exactly what to do and how to perform for their customers to come back and see them. They put on a very seductive act and knows the weakness of their clients and let them do all the talking. They are very street smart and will milk you for what they can get. Can you imagine how many clients they service in a day, in a week, in a month? They have seen and heard it all. Been in the hobby for a long long time and understand their goals for their future. They perform and buy the things that all women want like nice clothes, jewelry, expensive bags, nice luxury vehicles, properties are just few items on their most wanted needs. These women understand the system, buying real estate and having good legal advice from attorneys. They are in a very lucrative buisness and have shills helping them advertise (no offense to anyone of you out there). Girls are smart, they may only appear uneducated. They earn as much or more than most physicians. One local provider told me she occasionally works when she wants to earn a few thousand dollars in a short time.

They also like to read this forum as I have been told.

I've taken a few out in my days but its not worth it even if the sex is free. Loose money in the long haul. IMHO, just go out and have fun don't expect any type of relationship. However, during the outing I have learned from the girls how the massage business works, their goals in life and how the business thrives.

The above statements are only opinions so hopefully I did not offend anyone out there. Sorry if I did.[/QUOTE]I concur. BUT if you have the money to burn, why not? These playas must understand its all fun and games until someone gets their feelings crushed. TEHO.

[QUOTE=Inamona;3656579]I concur. BUT if you have the money to burn, why not? These playas must understand its all fun and games until someone gets their feelings crushed. TEHO.[/QUOTE]Have to remind everyone about the old joke that says "you don't pay a hooker for sex, you pay her to go away afterwards. ". LOL.

[QUOTE=DrGyno;3656399]You can ask her out but remember it could cost you if she agrees. If she is a newbee you may have a chance. Just keep in mind that she may also "clicks" with many many guys. These women are pros at what they do and they can read their customers like a book. They know exactly what to do and how to perform for their customers to come back and see them. They put on a very seductive act and knows the weakness of their clients and let them do all the talking. They are very street smart and will milk you for what they can get. Can you imagine how many clients they service in a day, in a week, in a month? They have seen and heard it all. Been in the hobby for a long long time and understand their goals for their future. They perform and buy the things that all women want like nice clothes, jewelry, expensive bags, nice luxury vehicles, properties are just few items on their most wanted needs. These women understand the system, buying real estate and having good legal advice from attorneys. They are in a very lucrative buisness and have shills helping them advertise (no offense to anyone of you out there). Girls are smart, they may only appear uneducated. They earn as much or more than most physicians. One local provider told me she occasionally works when she wants to earn a few thousand dollars in a short time.

They also like to read this forum as I have been told.

I've taken a few out in my days but its not worth it even if the sex is free. Loose money in the long haul. IMHO, just go out and have fun don't expect any type of relationship. However, during the outing I have learned from the girls how the massage business works, their goals in life and how the business thrives.

The above statements are only opinions so hopefully I did not offend anyone out there. Sorry if I did.[/QUOTE]"I have learned from the girls how the massage business works,. And how the business thrives. " I'd be most interested in hearing you unpack this. Sounds like it might be some great info. I don't know whether this particular thread is the most appropriate place, but somewhere on this board?

[QUOTE=DrMajikLuv69;3657142]Sorry to hear you got short changed on time. Perhaps this Question is for the Pine Tree Thread so if you feel like moving this question to PT to provide the answer then it would be cool. Question: did PT have a management change? If so did the new management require the girls to step up their service? I went there once about 6 months ago and had mediocre service thus never went back to PT since. However I would like to try the PT girls but the concept of YMMV TOFTT always makes me go back to the guaranteed exceptional service (FOR ME) at Happiness. So the questions still remain was a push from Pine tree management that the girls recently step up their game?[/QUOTE]Moved this here instead of Pinetree, cause it applies to any provider. It's up to the provider with service. Pine tree used to have the moniker, pine trash after some bad reviews. There was always one or two to show up that had a following, but the last 4 years or so has been rather negative. Then, Honey showed up there, now gone, but was a winner BBFS spinner. Miki was at top spa for a long time and I saw her 3 times. I enjoyed her spinner body, gave positive reviews, but she wasnt BBFS then. Now, she at Pinetree doing BBFS and she's a star. Well, improved service begets improved client base. Now you got 2 others there in the same category. Me thinks there's a lot of competition on this Island, let's face it we got so many awsome choices. Some providers realize they got to step up their game. Pine tree got the Kison providers just like Happiness got some. Not everyone into it, but obviously plenty are. My 2 ¢.

Talking about past raids with one girl and stated she would be arrested for prostitution if ever happened. She went off saying she was no prostitute and don't ever call her that. Even explaining that I did not call her a prostitute still pissed off. So in their world, what do they call themselves or consider their line of work? Should I have used hooker, *****, **** or escort and etc. She and all the others will deny they are prostitutes even though they will fuck anyone for $150 and work in a brothel. WTF.

[QUOTE=HiPickle;3657171]Moved this here instead of Pinetree, cause it applies to any provider. It's up to the provider with service. Pine tree used to have the moniker, pine trash after some bad reviews. There was always one or two to show up that had a following, but the last 4 years or so has been rather negative. Then, Honey showed up there, now gone, but was a winner BBFS spinner. Miki was at top spa for a long time and I saw her 3 times. I enjoyed her spinner body, gave positive reviews, but she wasnt BBFS then. Now, she at Pinetree doing BBFS and she's a star. Well, improved service begets improved client base. Now you got 2 others there in the same category. Me thinks there's a lot of competition on this Island, let's face it we got so many awsome choices. Some providers realize they got to step up their game. Pine tree got the Kison providers just like Happiness got some. Not everyone into it, but obviously plenty are. My 2 .[/QUOTE]Thank you Hinode! Yes agree with you so many beautiful girls at differences AMP and competition is tough. In order to have repeat customers girls need to increase their services. Younger and prettier now doing the BB. And you're correct again regarding the higher service standards; Kison, Happiness and PT. Note: there are a dozen or so 8. 5, 9. 0 or 10's by considerations of some mongers at the various other AMPs not mentioned that are also BBFS. I'm going definitely try PT now. You sir are one of the very few; less than a handful of senior members I trust. Appreciate it. Now I'm Going to need to try those PT girls. IMHO young, pretty, spinners that have excellent service will always be very popular. Service and attitude can trump looks sometimes.