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I have an opportunity to try out a chinese condo girl, and have never done this. Was wondering what the rate for this is? Is it DC rate with $60 at the door or N.Virginia rates of $80 at the door...or is it less because it sa condo?
I can guess what the rest of the rate will be (maybe). Not looking for locations or names, just what I should expect to pay.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]Good job on holding your ground!![/QUOTE]
As she was smug enough to ask for a tip for the 4-5 rated massage. I shoulda gave her a Jackson and then I woulda felt .85 worse off rather than .8. She wont be there long I do think. Coco needs to move to Marina del Rey with the $$.5 ladies in CA since her services are so good.
PC out
[QUOTE=Anon Busi]When you guys say Upsell (I couldn't find this under the Abbreviation link), does that mean providers asking for more tip or offering higher level of service for more tip?[/QUOTE]provider asking for more tip. I do not want to sound like I'm ridiculing the providers but there are too many out there that are just like used car salesmen, trying to sell you a car for $10k, when in fact the true value of the car is only $2k LOL
[QUOTE=Allgdag]
Everyone on here should read Virginia's "Morals and Decency":
[url]https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+TOC18020000008000000000000[/url]
Especially read 18.2-361 -- oral sex is a felony in Virginia, even with your wife...[/QUOTE]
Well, trechnically, yes, although I am certain that in light of the Supreme Court's ruling in [i]Lawrence v. Texas[/i], this is no longer enforceable.
However, keeping a bawdy place, or frequenting a bawdy place, is most definitely still enforceable as a criminal offense. But the mere presence of nudity does not complete the elements of "keepuing a bawdy place," so I don't agree with the claim that the moment nipples or cock are exposed, the law has been violated.
However, I do agree that such exposure would be probable cause for arrest. Probable cause is a standard much lower than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" required for conviction. To convict, the Commonwealt must prove to a jury (or a judge in a bench trial) that each and every element of the crime happened, beyond a reasonable doubt. But to arrest, they only need to show a set of facts which would cause a reasonable man of prudent caution to believe that it's probable that a crime is being committed.
I went to ATMB last week.
I got an excellent massage.
As usual.
Anyone else been there recently?
In the area on Saturday and decided to try a new place for the 1st time. Not many previous reports so thought I would TOFTT.
Little traffic on Saturday so waiting outside while the door was answered wasn't too offensive. Second ring produces a young lady which I immediately assumed was not the mamason.
She directed me to the back, room #3, and asked if I wanted a shower. I said sure and handed over the $80 house fee. She returned in 5 min. And directed me to a self serv stand up shower.
Showered myself and returned to room #3 with no Kim in sight. Dried off, laid down and then waited 10 minutes for her return.
Tried to initiate conversation. None although her Engrish was ok.
Massage. Fair to poor.
Looks. 7
Body. 7. Not that it mattered.
Roaming. None. She pulled away on my one attempt.
On the flip she asked if I wanted anything else massaged. So I had to direct her to the spot she had covered with a towel.
After a very mechanical and uninspiring finale she did clean things up and said I was done.
Done I was! This was one of the least interesting, least satisfying and almost insulting visits I have ever had. Her attitude and service sucked and to top it off, it was 45 minutes, 10 of which, I was laying there waiting for her. Will not return and unless they have other more engaging ladies I don't know how they stay in business.
Left. 2 which she looked at and didn't say a word. Thankfully.
Really a sorry visit!
It's hard to be "Nice to the Ladies" when you experience this kind of indifference to a customer.
This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from October 2009 to December 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 12/24/09 - Wayward One (Apr to Sep 2009)
Unknown location
================
Cheri - 12/29/09 - Jojo565 (+)
Coco - 12/29/09 - Serpico (+)
??? - 12/24/09 - Smart Phone (+)
Tina - 12/10/09 - Funkey (-)
??? - 12/9/09 - Free Mickey (?)
??? - 11/13/09 - Mongeryid (+)
??? - 11/11/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Candy - 10/31/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (?)
??? - 10/6/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
Jenny - 10/5/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
112 Maple
=========
MImi - 10/12/09 - Max Beelyun (+)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (+)
Judy - 10/7/09 - Cranberries (+)
Judy - 10/3/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Backlick
========
Suzie - 11/28/09 - FWDisaster (+)
Kim - 11/25/09 - The Nub (?)
Bamboo
======
new in PWC - 10/14/09 - Vahotguy
Bay Therapy
===========
Coco - 12/30/09 - MoonView (+)
Lily - 12/9/09 - Hofi35 (+)
Coco - 11/19/09 - Mason37 (-)
Anna - 11/18/09 - Skyn Deep69 (-)
Coco - 11/9/09 - Mason 37 (+)
Coco - 10/6/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Blue Ocean
==========
??? - 11/21/09 - Classy Mike (+)
??? - 10/30/09 - Ampamp72 (?)
addy - 10/26/09 - Badboycik
Bodywork
========
Mickey - 11/21/09 - Fun Cowboy (?)
Cosmos
======
Kay - 11/22/09 - Free Mickey (+)
CTM
===
Judy - 12/22/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
Sarah - 11/28/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Sarah - 11/20/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Sarah - 11/19/09 - Mongeroose (+)
Mona - 11/07/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Mona - 10/6/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Day Spa
=======
Tina - 10/27/09 - Yakblat (+)
Eden Day Spa
============
??? - 12/10/09 - Gus1000 (-)
??? - 11/11/09 - Andrewsted (?)
Enliven (tyco)
==============
Coco - 12/30/09 - Norm Leone (+)
May - 12/18/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Amy - 12/17/09 - Sleazebum (+)
??? - 12/12/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 11/19/09 - Norm leone (-)
Candy - 11/4/09 - Max Beelyun (?)
Evergreen
==========
Bonnie - 11/21/09 - Freedomfighter (+)
Far East
========
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/12/09 - Volvos40 (-)
G Accupressure (legit)
======================
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (+) legit
Golden
======
??? - 12/29/09 - Crazy Spartan (+)
??? - 12/28/09 - Yakblat (?)
Coco - 11/17/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Garden (Shiatsu)
================
Jae - 12/2/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Good Day Spa
============
??? - 12/6/09 - Computer Luvvv (+)
??? - 12/4/09 - Fatpig (-)
??? - 11/9/09 - Bob Bobman (+)
Green
=====
Holly - 12/26/09 - Andrewsted (+)
Micheele - 10/31/09 - Volvos40 (?)
Kay - 10/26/09 - Hofi35 (+)
??? - 10/23/09 - Justforme (?)
Suzi - 10/23/09 - Fatpig (-)
Holiday (K Accupressure)
==============
Yo-yo - 10/13/09 - Banker Boy (+)
Honto
=====
Tina - 12/25/09 - Fatpig (-)
IVY
===
Happy - 12/8/09 - Notronmexico (?)
Kim's Therapy
=============
Ruby - 12/30/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Ruby - 12/22/09 - Randytomcatt (+)
Connie - 12/15/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Loo - 12/1/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
p***a - 11/27/09 - Amp Bum (-)
Angie/mms - 11/7/09 - Dadwantsit (+)
Cindy - 10/14/09 - Dadwantsit (?)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
King Therapy
============
Yunji - 12/20/09 - Nona Khan (+)
Candy - 12/11/09 - Hondo17 (+)
Nicole - 12/9/09 - Jack Bones (?)
??? - 11/8/09 - Somlik (-)
Bebe - 11/8/09 - Computer Luvvv (?)
??? - 11/01/09 - Sleeping Bag (-)
Bebe - 10/31/09 - Tapas (+)
Sunny - 10/24/09 - Choboman (+)
Michelle - 10/24/09 - TheKing (+)
Michelle - 10/9/09 - noideaaa2 (?)
Little River
============
Coco - 11/16/09 - Yakblat (-)
Coco - 10/28/09 - Yakblat (+)
Massage Therapy
================
Suni - 10/26/09 - Rudy Vroom (?)
Suni - 10/25/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/6/09 - Ycwinva (?)
Magical Touch (MT)
==================
Suzie-Q - 11/12/09 - Mspearsva (?)
??? - 10/21/09 - Mspearsva (-)
Magic relax oriental massage
=====================
Chloe - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Sherry - 12/13/09 - Oldtar (+)(legit)
addy - 11/22/09 - Kamen (legit)
NSP
===
Kelly - 12/28/09 - Alpha D (+)
Lana - 12/18/09 - Funkey (?)
Monica - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Krissy - 12/14/09 - S2568 (+)
??? - 12/13/09 - Alpha D (+)
??? - 12/6/09 - Member #2204 (+)
Gini - 12/6/09 - Alpha D (+)
Jenny - 12/6/09 - Yakblat (+)
Sara - 11/25/09 - VAmongerman (+)
C**** - 11/13/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (+)
Cindy - 11/10/09 - Loader401 (?)
Christina - 11/9/09 - Alpha D (+)
Christina - 1/9/09 - Member#2204 (+)
Cher - 11/6/09 - Vahotguy (+)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
Sony - 10/1/09 - Loader401 (+)
Sony - 10/01/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Papaya (Tea Tree Therapy)
====================
Nana - 11/01/09 - Nice 499 (?)
switched names- 10/29/09 - Vamasage Fan (?)
Candi - 10/7/09 - Entourage (?)
Pine Tree (Lotus)
=============
Lucky - 11/26/09 - WebDog (+)
Prince massage therapy (Fairco)
========================
name change - 12/8/09 - Pilot Aviator
Rainbow
=======
Suzi - 10/22/09 - Olgnome (?)
Soft Touch Therapy
==================
Hanna - 12/2/09 - Harleyguyva (+)
Suki - 10/30/09 - Badboycik (?)
Swan
====
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (+)
??? - 11/13/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Tao
===
??? - 11/7/09 - Choboman (-)
VA M&B
======
Apple - 12/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Jenny - 11/16/09 - The Nub (-)
??? - 10/17/09 - Phaik Naim (+)
Genie - 10/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Venus (body wellness)
=====
Kim - 12/29/09 - Jack Bones (+)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fiction
[QUOTE=Wayward One]This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from October 2009 to December 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 12/24/09 - Wayward One (Apr to Sep 2009)
Unknown location
================
Cheri - 12/29/09 - Jojo565 (+)
Coco - 12/29/09 - Serpico (+)
??? - 12/24/09 - Smart Phone (+)
Tina - 12/10/09 - Funkey (-)
??? - 12/9/09 - Free Mickey (?)
??? - 11/13/09 - Mongeryid (+)
??? - 11/11/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Candy - 10/31/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (?)
??? - 10/6/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
Jenny - 10/5/09 - Roamin Roman (+)
112 Maple
=========
MImi - 10/12/09 - Max Beelyun (+)
??? - 10/8/09 - Mes0623 (+)
Judy - 10/7/09 - Cranberries (+)
Judy - 10/3/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Backlick
========
Suzie - 11/28/09 - FWDisaster (+)
Kim - 11/25/09 - The Nub (?)
Bamboo
======
new in PWC - 10/14/09 - Vahotguy
Bay Therapy
===========
Coco - 12/30/09 - MoonView (+)
Lily - 12/9/09 - Hofi35 (+)
Coco - 11/19/09 - Mason37 (-)
Anna - 11/18/09 - Skyn Deep69 (-)
Coco - 11/9/09 - Mason 37 (+)
Coco - 10/6/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Blue Ocean
==========
??? - 11/21/09 - Classy Mike (+)
??? - 10/30/09 - Ampamp72 (?)
addy - 10/26/09 - Badboycik
Bodywork
========
Mickey - 11/21/09 - Fun Cowboy (?)
Cosmos
======
Kay - 11/22/09 - Free Mickey (+)
CTM
===
Judy - 12/22/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
Sarah - 11/28/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Sarah - 11/20/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Sarah - 11/19/09 - Mongeroose (+)
Mona - 11/07/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Mona - 10/6/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Day Spa
=======
Tina - 10/27/09 - Yakblat (+)
Eden Day Spa
============
??? - 12/10/09 - Gus1000 (-)
??? - 11/11/09 - Andrewsted (?)
Enliven (tyco)
==============
Coco - 12/30/09 - Norm Leone (+)
May - 12/18/09 - Nice 499 (+)
Amy - 12/17/09 - Sleazebum (+)
??? - 12/12/09 - Norm Leone (-)
??? - 11/19/09 - Norm leone (-)
Candy - 11/4/09 - Max Beelyun (?)
Evergreen
==========
Bonnie - 11/21/09 - Freedomfighter (+)
Far East
========
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/12/09 - Volvos40 (-)
G Accupressure (legit)
======================
??? - 10/10/09 - Norm Leone (+) legit
Golden
======
??? - 12/29/09 - Crazy Spartan (+)
??? - 12/28/09 - Yakblat (?)
Coco - 11/17/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Garden (Shiatsu)
================
Jae - 12/2/09 - Harley Dude 29 (?)
Good Day Spa
============
??? - 12/6/09 - Computer Luvvv (+)
??? - 12/4/09 - Fatpig (-)
??? - 11/9/09 - Bob Bobman (+)
Green
=====
Holly - 12/26/09 - Andrewsted (+)
Micheele - 10/31/09 - Volvos40 (?)
Kay - 10/26/09 - Hofi35 (+)
??? - 10/23/09 - Justforme (?)
Suzi - 10/23/09 - Fatpig (-)
Holiday (K Accupressure)
==============
Yo-yo - 10/13/09 - Banker Boy (+)
Honto
=====
Tina - 12/25/09 - Fatpig (-)
IVY
===
Happy - 12/8/09 - Notronmexico (?)
Kim's Therapy
=============
Ruby - 12/30/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Ruby - 12/22/09 - Randytomcatt (+)
Connie - 12/15/09 - Pilot Aviator (+)
Loo - 12/1/09 - Pilot Aviator (?)
p***a - 11/27/09 - Amp Bum (-)
Angie/mms - 11/7/09 - Dadwantsit (+)
Cindy - 10/14/09 - Dadwantsit (?)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
King Therapy
============
Yunji - 12/20/09 - Nona Khan (+)
Candy - 12/11/09 - Hondo17 (+)
Nicole - 12/9/09 - Jack Bones (?)
??? - 11/8/09 - Somlik (-)
Bebe - 11/8/09 - Computer Luvvv (?)
??? - 11/01/09 - Sleeping Bag (-)
Bebe - 10/31/09 - Tapas (+)
Sunny - 10/24/09 - Choboman (+)
Michelle - 10/24/09 - TheKing (+)
Michelle - 10/9/09 - noideaaa2 (?)
Little River
============
Coco - 11/16/09 - Yakblat (-)
Coco - 10/28/09 - Yakblat (+)
Massage Therapy
================
Suni - 10/26/09 - Rudy Vroom (?)
Suni - 10/25/09 - Volvos40 (-)
??? - 10/6/09 - Ycwinva (?)
Magical Touch (MT)
==================
Suzie-Q - 11/12/09 - Mspearsva (?)
??? - 10/21/09 - Mspearsva (-)
Magic relax oriental massage
=====================
Chloe - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Sherry - 12/13/09 - Oldtar (+)(legit)
addy - 11/22/09 - Kamen (legit)
NSP
===
Kelly - 12/28/09 - Alpha D (+)
Lana - 12/18/09 - Funkey (?)
Monica - 12/16/09 - Alpha D (+)
Krissy - 12/14/09 - S2568 (+)
??? - 12/13/09 - Alpha D (+)
??? - 12/6/09 - Member #2204 (+)
Gini - 12/6/09 - Alpha D (+)
Jenny - 12/6/09 - Yakblat (+)
Sara - 11/25/09 - VAmongerman (+)
C**** - 11/13/09 - Sculleyjohn6 (+)
Cindy - 11/10/09 - Loader401 (?)
Christina - 11/9/09 - Alpha D (+)
Christina - 1/9/09 - Member#2204 (+)
Cher - 11/6/09 - Vahotguy (+)
??? - 10/11/09 - Guitarman1 (?)
Sony - 10/1/09 - Loader401 (+)
Sony - 10/01/09 - Any Mouse (+)
Papaya (Tea Tree Therapy)
====================
Nana - 11/01/09 - Nice 499 (?)
switched names- 10/29/09 - Vamasage Fan (?)
Candi - 10/7/09 - Entourage (?)
Pine Tree (Lotus)
=============
Lucky - 11/26/09 - WebDog (+)
Prince massage therapy (Fairco)
========================
name change - 12/8/09 - Pilot Aviator
Rainbow
=======
Suzi - 10/22/09 - Olgnome (?)
Soft Touch Therapy
==================
Hanna - 12/2/09 - Harleyguyva (+)
Suki - 10/30/09 - Badboycik (?)
Swan
====
??? - 11/20/09 - Volvos40 (+)
??? - 11/13/09 - Serpico99 (+)
Tao
===
??? - 11/7/09 - Choboman (-)
VA M&B
======
Apple - 12/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Jenny - 11/16/09 - The Nub (-)
??? - 10/17/09 - Phaik Naim (+)
Genie - 10/5/09 - The Nub (+)
Venus (body wellness)
=====
Kim - 12/29/09 - Jack Bones (+)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fiction[/QUOTE]Now that is valuable info. More postings need to be like this. Great research!
Thanks!
Perhaps a stupid question but can someone tell me what the +, - , and ? mean in the amp index post?
My first assumption is "positive experience" and "negative experience".
Is that correct?
Wayward One,
Thanks again for the countless hours and time you invest for us!
[QUOTE=Wayward One]This index covers reports of Nova AMPS as found here on the board from October 2009 to December 2009.
Any review over a few days old may already be out of date, and the providers may have moved on.
Listings follow the format:
Provider - date of report - reviewers handle (*)
* subjective qualification on my behalf as to whether it was a positive, negative, or other/mixed review.
Previous Update - 12/24/09 - Wayward One (Apr to Sep 2009)
Wayward One
All described acts should be read as interactive fiction[/QUOTE]
In regards to you newbies RTFF he's only been doing this for almost 5 years.
" [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=348303#post348303[/url] "
It would be beneficial to yourself and other newbies for you to get familiar with this forum hence stopping the stupid questions and comments!
[QUOTE=Nicc 70]More postings need to be like this.[/QUOTE]
Nic,
Did you notice that A John cut your post to quote only what he needed to? Please use this method and refrain from reposting every single word of a quoted post. It will save time for scrolling and it won't push relevant posts to the next page so quickly.
Thanks.
AD
Twice in my past - both a long time back, Southern California. First time was heaven. They were really slow - gal asked if her friend could come help. "no extra charge - we like you". Next thing you know I have a --ssy in my face and a mouth on my ---- and well, let's just say I was not sure what to tip (that was in the day of $20 for an hour, $40 tip for fs).
Second time, too much upsell. Not my cup of tea now. Given my finances, would rather have 2 events spread out a bit to a 4 hand.
[QUOTE=Jack Bones]Dropped by this well-reported-off-the-beltway establishment one evening this past week. etc. etc. etc.
Standard NoVa experience w/no up-sell. I appreciate that. She did introduce me to Susie; the other girl on staff that evening and suggested I try a four-hand massage next time. I've never tried that. If anyone has and want's to express an opinion, I'd love to hear it.
etc etc etc![/QUOTE]
I am a newbie here. I was wondering about the place on Westfields and Walney in Centreville. Live down the street and wondering if it is worth it. I know I am a newbie, but would appreciate any information. You can PM if you don't want to post to the board.
About two years ago with an agency.... Rose & Pam 1-house fee + 2-tips. They were not into each other as I would have liked. Good time however will not partake again unless the two are lovers.
[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills]Twice in my past - both a long time back,
(that was in the day of $20 for an hour, $40 tip for fs).
Second time, too much upsell. Not my cup of tea now. Given my finances, would rather have 2 events spread out a bit to a 4 hand.[/QUOTE]
Decided to stop in at Herndon Therapy.
It's been a long time since I was last there and actually wasn't even really sure they were still open.
It was an odd mix of good and bad.
All the right elements of a classic AMP experience but some parts were poorly executed.
Yumi, 40+ Korean, very short, small natural, tight body with long dark curled hair.
Strong cigarette smell everywhere and unoccupied staff were puffing away while watching TV.
Great TS.
Then I was left way too long in the Sauna while loud discussions occurred in Korean outside.
She put a lot of effort into the massage and gave the best hand and foot massage I've ever received. But, it was very spotty otherwise. I don't think she touched anywhere on the upper half of my back.
When she massaged my head, she dug her nails hard into my scalp. It hurt and she actually drew blood at the hairline. I had to sterilize and bandage when I got home.
That was followed immediately by a nice gentle tongue bath, teasing, and flip.
Unencumbered external roaming and standard NoVA.
Then a luke-warm towel for clean-up.
Good English. Great conversation.
She dressed me 100% not just an assist.
In summary, I liked her as a person a lot but won't be back for that service or environment.