Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2096092]I am a smoker and I get a non smoking room. I go outside and smoke. This is not for my benefit it's for my business. I want my clients to be happy and truly enjoy their time with me and not have to worry about going home smelling like an ashtray, perfume, or anything else. Also a little thing out there called febreeze it works wonders ladies if you really need to smoke inside. Taking a shower before every client, mouthwash, and the age plain respect. This is your business and pleasing everyone is hard but, smoking outside is really not that bad. I don't know I don't like all my things smelling like an ashtray either. Play hard and stay safe.

Xoxox,

Stormy.[/QUOTE]Having seen Stormy very recently I can attest to this. Her room was completely free of any smoke smell whatsoever. I really appreciated that too. I don't have anyone at home to answer to so that isn't the point for me. It's just that cigarette smoke clings to everything and it is nauseating to me. I have seen a few providers that had very smelly rooms from the smoke and it's just not fun. Take it outside and keep your rooms fresh or chance losing repeat business. It's just good business sense IMHO...

Luv.

[QUOTE=Josh88;2096346]That's a very interesting story and goes to show you that "this thing we do" has its own underground counter culture. What I am not clear about is how the provider got your girlfriend's number, unless they knew each other and the provider recognized your #. A second burner phone would take care of that. I have one. It's worth the expense.[/QUOTE]Oh they knew each other, friend of family, I guess girl friend had bragged how she had a older boyfriend from this area. As luck would have it, she must be a part time fucking detective, sees 513 and text girl friend from out of the blue. Hadn't talked in months and sends that random text. Oh, I agree my bad, I have burn phone and got lazy. Live and learn.

[QUOTE=UtrInOhio;2096242]I am a completely miserable asshole!

Well, that's how I've been feeling and acting for months. I was really thinking stress, anxiety etc...I saw my doctor. He sent me for a hearing check of all things.

Turns out...40% hearing loss........ [/QUOTE]True story:

My parents at the dinner table many years ago:

My mother: "Have you considered having your hearing checked?

My dad: "I had it checked last week."

My mother: "What did the test show?

My dad: "I need a hearing aid."

My mother: "Did you order one?

My dad: "No."

My mother: "Why not?

My dad: "Because there's a lot being said I don't want to hear."

[QUOTE=Daddymonger;2096386]I agree that GFE does not include Greek, but every definition of GG3 I have read does include it. There is a number "3" instead of "E" in that third position. You can look it up to see if I am incorrect.[/QUOTE]Greek and bback go with PSE GFE is what your GF would do with bback included otherwise she probably wouldn't be anyones GF for long but usually GRK and BBK are in the PSE realm. JMO.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2096237]GFE does NOT include Greek IMHO. That would be more PSE or GFE with PSE when they state that in their ads. I for one don't list my services except one verified site, so as always if you have any questions in regards to that, once you are verified I am more than happy to answer those for you.[/QUOTE]BP is hit or miss when trying to get clear what the provider offers. NR you have to pay as a guy to get more details and can be weak with intel. USA really helps understand the providers menu and you usually can ask if you don't see what you want. Even the provider who has a individual web site sometimes isn't helpful. I don't know of any fool proof experience checking on providers. Working in the hobby isn't a bad thing. IMHO.

I just had a provider get pissed over reviews of girls in general. She wanted to know why us mongers don't get reviewed by providers. Maybe we should set up a thread for that. Of course, I doubt that the providers care about body type, how long our tongues are, the size of our dick, or how hard we get. Here's what we are supposed to do to hold up our part of the bargain: 1. Show up on time 2. Be clean 3. Pay the required fee without hassle. 4. Be nice to the girl. I doubt that the good providers care about anything else.

[QUOTE=Gatty23;2100281]I just had a provider get pissed over reviews of girls in general. She wanted to know why us mongers don't get reviewed by providers. Maybe we should set up a thread for that. Of course, I doubt that the providers care about body type, how long our tongues are, the size of our dick, or how hard we get. Here's what we are supposed to do to hold up our part of the bargain: 1. Show up on time 2. Be clean 3. Pay the required fee without hassle. 4. Be nice to the girl. I doubt that the good providers care about anything else.[/QUOTE]I know I would enjoy that. Those 4 things are most important to me. #1 Be clean please.

Stormy.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2100220]Sorry but I don't agree. Bare back isn't included in PSE GFE. That is more for Greek or bbbjnqns or maybe a facial or something but not bare.[/QUOTE]Personally I think PSE means chicks that fuck like pornstars (all access pass), dress like pornstars, and take facials, you know kind of how latinas fuck all the time. GFE is just what it says, chicks that fuck you like they like you.

BBBJ for both yes, but BB vag or anal is always a separate deal.

Just how I see it.

[QUOTE=Gatty23;2100281]I just had a provider get pissed over reviews of girls in general. She wanted to know why us mongers don't get reviewed by providers. Maybe we should set up a thread for that. Of course, I doubt that the providers care about body type, how long our tongues are, the size of our dick, or how hard we get. Here's what we are supposed to do to hold up our part of the bargain: 1. Show up on time 2. Be clean 3. Pay the required fee without hassle. 4. Be nice to the girl. I doubt that the good providers care about anything else.[/QUOTE]Does that mean they will be paying us, or at the very least give steep discounts if we are well reviewed. I kind of doubt it.

[QUOTE=Gatty23;2100281]I just had a provider get pissed over reviews of girls in general. She wanted to know why us mongers don't get reviewed by providers. Maybe we should set up a thread for that. Of course, I doubt that the providers care about body type, how long our tongues are, the size of our dick, or how hard we get. Here's what we are supposed to do to hold up our part of the bargain: 1. Show up on time 2. Be clean 3. Pay the required fee without hassle. 4. Be nice to the girl. I doubt that the good providers care about anything else.[/QUOTE]I would agree with these 4 points. Be a gentleman, be clean (IMO it get's you extra mileage) , don't "dicker" about price, it's not Ebay and don't show up late. You don't want your time wasted so don't waste her's.

Luv.

I think PSE means bareback everything. If you watch porn, and if PSE means porn star experience, then you will notice that 90% of porn movies are bareback everything. Vag, anal, oral, one after another. Now, that of course means that one should get tested regularly, and one's partner should be tested regularly, and you should know your partner's real name, so that you can see the paperwork, and you should know your partner well enough to know that they haven't done anyone else without protection since their last test. Furthermore, the level of cleanliness and preparation is exceptional. "Know," not "think I know." Its a lot to know.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=LuvdaLadys14;2100446]I would agree with these 4 points. Be a gentleman, be clean (IMO it get's you extra mileage) , don't "dicker" about price, it's not Ebay and don't show up late. You don't want your time wasted so don't waste her's.

Luv.[/QUOTE]If you look up GFE porn same thing. The starting point is the provider she will give her definition and go from there. Being a gentleman is a great place to start even if your run over by her. Being clean is more fun. You should always discuss donation and be nice it should help make a good connection. Not a perfect hobby yet. A providers situation usually keeps making it better for the next time.