I counted at least 15 girls out this morning and no LEO in sight.
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I counted at least 15 girls out this morning and no LEO in sight.
Fairly new to the area. I finally found the whereabouts of where the women on the night frequent. I went out about 6:30 Am. Saw about 4 BSW (one of whom advertise on BP) and a nice thick WSW. Didn't scoop up any because the law was starting to come out. I'm thinking about getting a room next weekend in the area to test it out. I have no tints so I don't trust car action.
Something told me to head out there! Ah well, things happen for a reason.
[QUOTE=AllGoat;3229330]I counted at least 15 girls out this morning and no LEO in sight.[/QUOTE]
AOmega0,
Thanks for entertaining my thoughts. You raise some interesting points.
[QUOTE=AOmega0;3221164]A providers idea of negotiation is to take and offer nothing in return as well as not entertain a counter-offer. If they want to upsell, they better have a value proposition to back it up. Overall they should be more business-minded / open, but with the lack of formal education of most (not all) and drug use.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. In fact, my words to her were "I guess you're saying you want free money. " Since we've started having these convos the value has increased, but not an increase in cost. Unfortunately she has put herself in a tough position, unless she can outline the exact value gained by x cost (to your point), I can continue receiving better service at the same cost.
[QUOTE=AOmega0;3221164]I also agree that as a whole, it is a buyers market. However, the elasticity of demand is very interesting the sex industry. When the external forces you mention drive out providers, I believe demand stays relatively the same (since us buyers are still willing and able; the willingness just goes down a bit due to LE presence). If anything, the ones who stay end up with [I]more[/I] pricing power due to the lower availability of substitute providers; less competition. If we go out, we say, "Slim pickens today" so we either have the discipline to wait it out OR we decide to pay for something of less quality (perceived value anyway since each of us can like something different) even to our dissatisfaction of choices. In a situation like that, a provider [I]could[/I] - in theory. Charge more and get away with it due to temporary lack of competition. It'd still be and always will be a buyers market, but would have a higher potential to have to consider alternatives (BP, camgirls, stripclubs, MP's, etc) if we're deadset on a SW right then and there. We all know; scarcity sells.
Now if prices of commodities are rising and service prices are staying the same (even in the face of less competition) as you noted, I'd be [I]less[/I] inclined to entertain an upsell [I]unless[/I] there was commensurate value. Going back to the title of your original post.[/QUOTE]Valid points. As I read your reply I think there is a duality in my original post. One side of it is an objective, economy perspective, and the other, my conclusion, is an underlying emotional perspective. Reading back on it, my comment "considering the rising price of milk and bread, and service prices that haven't changed in ages, I may be inclined to honor the upsell every now and then. " has an emotional underlying. From a logical / economical standpoint, I agree with your statement.
"if prices of commodities are rising and service prices are staying the same (even in the face of less competition) as you noted, I'd be [I]less[/I] inclined to entertain an upsell [I]unless[/I] there was commensurate value".
But if that's true then it contradicts my original statement. Now I'm thinking I must have a soft heart =/.
[QUOTE=Wasntme;3233618]AOmega0,
Thanks for entertaining my thoughts. You raise some interesting points.
I couldn't agree more. In fact, my words to her were "I guess you're saying you want free money. " Since we've started having these convos the value has increased, but not an increase in cost. Unfortunately she has put herself in a tough position, unless she can outline the exact value gained by x cost (to your point), I can continue receiving better service at the same cost.
Valid points. As I read your reply I think there is a duality in my original post. One side of it is an objective, economy perspective, and the other, my conclusion, is an underlying emotional perspective. Reading back on it, my comment "considering the rising price of milk and bread, and service prices that haven't changed in ages, I may be inclined to honor the upsell every now and then. " has an emotional underlying. From a logical / economical standpoint, I agree with your statement.
"if prices of commodities are rising and service prices are staying the same (even in the face of less competition) as you noted, I'd be [I]less[/I] inclined to entertain an upsell [I]unless[/I] there was commensurate value".
But if that's true then it contradicts my original statement. Now I'm thinking I must have a soft heart =/.[/QUOTE]Of course; couldn't help myself. Very engaging.
I see what you mean with the duality; I didn't consider the perspective of the provider. Just mine as buyer. With that, I agree. I certainly try to help out the ones who treat me well in a reciprocal manner.
In fact, you may have inadvertently made another fine point that if she (or any provider) isn't willing to offer more value for an increase in the original x amount of $(her upsell asking price) - then it tells you about the character of the person you've been dealing with. (to provider) [I]"Even after seeing me this many times, you aren't willing to/are stubborn on being more generous yourself, but will ask solely more of ME?"[/I].
Overall, thanks for provoking this type of convo. Need more of them on the board. Who knows; it might start to change consumer behavior for the better.
So, I slept earlier than usual and woke up around 3 am. Couldn't go back to sleep so I kept busy. Read a bit, did some chores then figured "why don't I go try and find this loop that everyone is talking about".
I'm not into the SW scene (at least here in the US, overseas is a different convo) so I was never too pressed about it. I had tried finding the Loop/SW Scene before simply to know where it was and to know the full 'range' of the hobby in the DMV. I had been down Eastern Ave before but what I saw there should never be spoken about again. I had been down K St before, but more so around 5th aka Tranny Land, again, never to be spoken about.
Well I figured since today was a tad bit warm, why don't I try to find the proper 'Loop'. So I did just that. Got to the Loop around 5:30 and lo and behold the first BSW (I saw 5 today). She had an extremely phat ass and looked up to par. Saw 2 others by L and 11th, one was in a thong and getting a bit showy while the other walked around. I later saw a 4th one that I actually would have liked to have but seeing as it was nearing 6 am and the early DC morning workers would soon start coming in I decided to bounce. I did want to try and wave one down, but I like to keep the hobbying lowkey. You never know what car is behind you.
A couple observations:
1. The Loop is HOT! Because this is downtown, there's a lot of one way traffic and congestion. Once the early commuters started rolling in it was tough to make pit stops and you-Turns. You had to keep it moving. I'll definitely check out the loop tomorrow between 3:30 - 5:00 am. Too late for clubs but a tad too early for early DC workers.
2. Seemed like the ladies had 'protection' as I saw a Chrysler 300 park some yards from them with its hazard lights on.
3. Didn't notice too much LEO activity, that was a good touch.
4. I'm surprised the loop is in such a well lit area. I would think the ladies would like a bit more of a lowkey area e. G. K & 5th heading towards MD.
5. I liked SW activity, at least overseas, particularly Ghana and Nigeria, because on some streets you'd have like 20-30 women on a slow moving street with little traffic. They also tended to come out much earlier, usually by 11 pm they are out in full force. Over there it's moreso you pick them up, take them to the club, have fun then take them back to smash.
6. Quality of the women was far far better than I expected. There was one in a thong and some crop top that was dancing, busting it wide open and just getting wild. Would have liked to scoop her but there was too much car activity and traffic in the area.
I'll try again and see what I find. I'll still stick to online activities just because of discretion and ease, but it was nice to finally see the loop, at least what's left of it. I'm sure years back the loop was intense and filled with top talent.
[QUOTE=Mozam;3246474]So, I slept earlier than usual and woke up around 3 am. Couldn't go back to sleep so I kept busy. Read a bit, did some chores then figured "why don't I go try and find this loop that everyone is talking about".
I'm not into the SW scene (at least here in the US, overseas is a different convo) so I was never too pressed about it. I had tried finding the Loop/SW Scene before simply to know where it was and to know the full 'range' of the hobby in the DMV. I had been down Eastern Ave before but what I saw there should never be spoken about again. I had been down K St before, but more so around 5th aka Tranny Land, again, never to be spoken about.
Well I figured since today was a tad bit warm, why don't I try to find the proper 'Loop'. So I did just that. Got to the Loop around 5:30 and lo and behold the first BSW (I saw 5 today). She had an extremely phat ass and looked up to par. Saw 2 others by L and 11th, one was in a thong and getting a bit showy while the other walked around. I later saw a 4th one that I actually would have liked to have but seeing as it was nearing 6 am and the early DC morning workers would soon start coming in I decided to bounce. I did want to try and wave one down, but I like to keep the hobbying lowkey. You never know what car is behind you.
A couple observations:
1. The Loop is HOT! Because this is downtown, there's a lot of one way traffic and congestion. Once the early commuters started rolling in it was tough to make pit stops and you-Turns. You had to keep it moving. I'll definitely check out the loop tomorrow between 3:30 - 5:00 am. Too late for clubs but a tad too early for early DC workers.
2. Seemed like the ladies had 'protection' as I saw a Chrysler 300 park some yards from them with its hazard lights on.
3. Didn't notice too much LEO activity, that was a good touch.
4. I'm surprised the loop is in such a well lit area. I would think the ladies would like a bit more of a lowkey area e. G. K & 5th heading towards MD.
5. I liked SW activity, at least overseas, particularly Ghana and Nigeria, because on some streets you'd have like 20-30 women on a slow moving street with little traffic. They also tended to come out much earlier, usually by 11 pm they are out in full force. Over there it's moreso you pick them up, take them to the club, have fun then take them back to smash.
6. Quality of the women was far far better than I expected. There was one in a thong and some crop top that was dancing, busting it wide open and just getting wild. Would have liked to scoop her but there was too much car activity and traffic in the area.
I'll try again and see what I find. I'll still stick to online activities just because of discretion and ease, but it was nice to finally see the loop, at least what's left of it. I'm sure years back the loop was intense and filled with top talent.[/QUOTE]Try not to be so paranoid. Just keep your wits about you and have some fun at this! The girls are out there for your pleasure and entertainment and they stay out until 7 am. The people on their way to work in the area know what they have to put up with if they come in before 7. Yes, LE may be out but just know where the bike cops are and always check your six. They are more worried about keeping the flow of traffic moving and positioning the action in the right place to keep the spectacle to a bare minimum. After you've dipped your wick a few times I'm sure you'll be more relaxed at this. It may feel like all the civvies are watching you. But they know to be tolerant of the game. It has been this way down there for at least 40 years on the stroll, and really goes farther back that. I can only vouch for the years I've been hobbying the area. Cheers!
[QUOTE=RealFlya;3247505]Try not to be so paranoid. Just keep your wits about you and have some fun at this! The girls are out there for your pleasure and entertainment and they stay out until 7 am. The people on their way to work in the area know what they have to put up with if they come in before 7. Yes, LE may be out but just know where the bike cops are and always check your six. They are more worried about keeping the flow of traffic moving and positioning the action in the right place to keep the spectacle to a bare minimum. After you've dipped your wick a few times I'm sure you'll be more relaxed at this. It may feel like all the civvies are watching you. But they know to be tolerant of the game. It has been this way down there for at least 40 years on the stroll, and really goes farther back that. I can only vouch for the years I've been hobbying the area. Cheers![/QUOTE]So I went back again early this morning. Around 4:30 this time. Much better on my part. Was a bit more relaxed, traffic was slower and I was far more calm. Picked up a girl by the name of Trixie, great body, relatively enthusiastic, but really, the SW scene is not for me, at least her in DC. The funny thing is the same girls that are on the stroll are on BP and I never made that connection until Trixie told me I could have just made an appointment with her online during the day.
Today there were like 7-8 SWs. I saw 2 I liked (including Trixie) but the one I really wanted is this WSW with a phat ass, but by the time I came around the loop she had disappeared only to appear once I finished my session with Trixie.
I've mongered overseas (Nigeria, Ghana, Malaysia). The SW scene is far better in those aforementioned countries so I guess I based my assumptions on that. Overseas usually the girls will rent out a small room nearby, or get one of those hourly rooms. Sometimes there are people that open their guest rooms to them. Usually the girls aren't on the main road I. E. K street, but will usually be 2 or 3 straights from the main action. Traffic is very slow and you never have to worry about doing anything in your car. That's the type of SW action I like, but different strokes for different blokes. Obviously, there's something about just cruising and seeing the options in front of you and knowing you can take your pic for the right donation.
I'll do what Trixie suggested and simply pick up a girl and grab her number, then plan to meet up at a later date. The moment Trixie gave me her number I searched the number, saw various ads on BP and such and realized I had seen the ad before but never pulled the trigger.
All in all, good activity. I can imagine like 20 years ago the talent must have been ridiculous.
After the superbowl decided to take a trip around what I thought was the loop since it was my first time in this area and mainly stayed on the main roads. Drove around several times on the main street and saw no one other than two SWs. One had a phat ass poking out. Decided to pick her up. After s (he) got in the car my spider senses starting going off that she may have beans and a frank. Decided not to do anything and just gave he (r) $10 and asked to intel for where other ladies are. Other than that, I guess I was out the wrong time cause no one was out. LEO definitely was probably for all the potential drunk drivers after the game.
Saw 5 BSWs and Courtney out this morning. Courtney was wearing a fishnet bodysuit and high boots. Everything on display. I couldn't resist. She came through as always with a splendid CBJ. She takes her time and has amazing patience. It was well worth the standard fee (she always shows consistent performance). As always. Can't wait til next time. She keeps me coming back. She asked me to give her a ride so she could meet up with her supplier. I enjoyed the extra time with her in the fishnets. Courtney. Always the pleaser!
In town for a few anyone have any information on where I can find a BIG butt white girl or black I'm talk pornstar ass that street walking. Need help new to area. Thanks and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=HighFlying;3285058]In town for a few anyone have any information on where I can find a BIG butt white girl or black I'm talk pornstar ass that street walking. Need help new to area. Thanks and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Go to 12th Street between Mass. And and Nstreet between 4 am and 7 am. There you'll find Courtney and several other that will fit that description. Happy hunting!
Scooped Blu this morning. She is one of my favorites and we have dated many times in the past. Blu can be found on BP and also hits the DC stroll somewhat frequently. She is real friendly; I'd call it GFE treatment. I'd also say she's one of the best BJ artists out there and does it any way you like with trills, lots of action and sound to go with it. She's from Baltimore and definitely has the distinct accent. I've seen her working the casinos and local racetracks and she tells me works as far south as Fredericksburg, so she gets around. Her digits are posted on BP and her ad says Dupont Circle but you'll see her on the street in as well. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=RealFlya;3285420]Go to 12th Street between Mass. And and Nstreet between 4 am and 7 am. There you'll find Courtney and several other that will fit that description. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]By any chance would you have Courtney's contact? I've seen her on the stroll but I was slow to pick her up, also, the stroll is just not for me. I've heard a lot about her and I'd like to test her out, especially since she's a PAWG. PM me if you got some intel. Thanks in advance.
Was a frosty morning so a lot of the ladies stayed in bed. Candy and another BSW dared it but LEO on bike and marked car posted themselves on 12th, everyone's go to street. Will try again tomorrow.