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[QUOTE=ZzzBoy14;6670075]Damn was Yoji always +100 for BB? I thought it was 280 all-in. I was hella excited to book today, then I canceled LOL.[/QUOTE]I think she UTR bb before all the upcharge fees were a thing. YMMV but it I've heard and experienced bb without the upcharge in the past.
Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. Read here:
[URL]https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/three-arrested-operating-high-end-brothel-network[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/politics/high-end-brothel-network-arrests/index.html[/URL]
Some facts from their website, which all appear credible:
The two websites were [URL]bostontopten10.com[/URL] and browneyesgirlsva. Blog, the first of which is already domain seized.
DOJ was tipped off starting last year in the summer of 2022. They noticed these appointments in phones they put under surveillance, and they interviewed 20 customers.
They claim some of the customers were government officials, which is credible, which would also automatically explain why the phones were under surveillance (people were using their government work phone to visit the places). Or it could have been another reason, but there is no reason to doubt this since it is a minor detail.
The three locations in question were Cambridge, Watertown, and Tysons (Virginia).
The most expensive apartment rented was $3,664, and the owners often paid by turning cash into money orders and using the money orders to pay bills and rent (pretty smart actually!
DOJ claims the price ranges from $350 to upwards of $600 per hour (Okay if true that's a bit steep but this place offered doubles so yeah that would do it).
They went out of their way to emphasize this is a high end brothel with high end customers charging (relatively) top dollar. Not sure why but they repeated variations of this many times.
The investigation is ongoing.
Some of my own observations:
Many girls who worked in Socal, when you look up their TER, often have worked in Tysons and East Coast. Often a few weeks or months before working the West Coast. So while there may be no direct affiliation at all (there probably isn't, they are probably just sharing girls between different businesses that refer each other), it means the network is exposed and DOJ has a lead to investigate completely different agencies.
The reason I post this info here is for that reason. No Socal agencies are directly affected, but they have a lead. If the different businesses are isolated like "cells" enough, it can take time and DOJ might just take the lowest hanging fruit and move on. In past investigations, they could not scratch the surface other than take down a few closely linked agencies (ex: Seattle). And here we are today with way more agencies than years ago in the last local bust. It is expensive and time consuming. Of course it helps that some of their own employees were presumably caught with the evidence on government phones. DOJ employees LOVE prostitutes if you follow the news.
By the way, even if and when they investigate other agencies, as you can see it can take a very long time, 6-18 months, to bear fruit. They have not indicted any girls or customers but say they are still investigating. But in past cases, it is not generally a good use of investigation time to indict them unless you are running a sting and can get the evidence quick and easy (I. E. It is ten times as much work to get good evidence without a sting and it is less likely to be good enough for court).
You can read the 60 page affidavit here if you're curious. I've read many in the past and it's always fun because they have to spell all the facts out:
[URL]https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/usa_v._han_lee_et_al_-_complaint_affidavit_redacted.pdf[/URL]
Very little is redacted so you can see actual text messages, addresses. One excerpt from the affidavit <the following are the DOJ officer's words, not mine>:
"As depicted above, women nicknamed "Kara," "Tina" and "Mimi" were offered to.
The Customer A). I am aware that the reference above to "BB" is a term in the prostitution industry.
That refers to sex without a condom, as evidenced by the Boston Brothel Phone clarifying in its.
Subsequent text of "(BB = without CD" I am also aware that "GFE" refers to "GirlFriend.
Experience" which provides a more intimate experience and blurs the boundaries between a.
Financial transaction and a romantic relationship. Generally speaking, when hen the customers.
Arrived at the apartment unit, they did not knock; the door was opened by an Asian female inside.
Who was expecting them. ".
<End transcript>
I was enjoying reading their take on things. It *almost* sounded as if they personally visited several times to get serviced and corroborate the facts, but then again they claim to have interviewed 20 customers (including themselves? Jk).
Please do not be too alarmed. This is normal and happens every few years. It is an inherent risk. Prostitution should be legalized and already is in many countries (and parts of the USA like Nevada) but it is what it is.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;6670384]Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. Read here:[/QUOTE]The only reason the DOJ (feds) could get involved is because of the interstate nature of the crime. The Northeast and MidAtlantic have many small states where people live and work in different jurisdictions. So say if someone in DC were to book a girl in Tysons Corner, that would allow the feds to get involved.
California is a big state, so that is not likely to happen. The agencies all would be wise not to advertise affiliations with out of state operations. Though NorCal / SoCal is still just a state matter. I wouldn't worry about feds poking around in LA / OC.
[QUOTE=MisterO;6670337]I think she UTR bb before all the upcharge fees were a thing. YMMV but it I've heard and experienced bb without the upcharge in the past.[/QUOTE]Yup I got BB service for 280. Didn't even bring a tip. Not a bad experience to try once. But, my desire to fuk older women is quickly disappearing.
[QUOTE=NutritionFacts;6665322]Booker asked for a selfie and a piece of paper with time and date on it. Is this legit? Am I going to be in a blackmail file somewhere?[/QUOTE]Its normal different bookers ask for different stuff. Some just want a couple refs, some want a selfie, some want paystub or I'd. Some are pickier than other but once you get in with a couple it should open up more for you.
[QUOTE=ZzzBoy14;6670075]Damn was Yoji always +100 for BB? I thought it was 280 all-in. I was hella excited to book today, then I canceled LOL.[/QUOTE]It depends how she clicked with you, some got it and some did not.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;6670384]Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. Read here:
[URL]https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/three-arrested-operating-high-end-brothel-network[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/politics/high-end-brothel-network-arrests/index.html[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I found it amusing that the old look through the trash tactic was both still employed and useful.
I posted in the LA kbb but I think it belongs in the OC section. Just looking for feedback on Mira. Booker told me she is back and was shocked I didn't know her. Is she that good? I probably will go see her but would like some encouragement haha! Appreciate it!
I have never seen a provider in the LA region but I think I read somewhere on the LA forum that some providers / agency are offering outcall? Has anyone experienced this in OC? If not, have you experienced it in LA? Gamechanger haha.
[QUOTE=RickySteamboat;6671176]I posted in the LA kbb but I think it belongs in the OC section. Just looking for feedback on Mira. Booker told me she is back and was shocked I didn't know her. Is she that good? I probably will go see her but would like some encouragement haha! Appreciate it![/QUOTE]Find Tons of reviews here Mila (TER: 363942). She has fantastic gorilla grip and may bite you when she cums hard. You've been warned.
Hey why'all. Do you usually recommend doing 30 m or hour appointments? Hope I'm posting in the right spot, pretty new to the K-game. Could use some guidance or general advice, DMs are welcome haha.
[QUOTE=MrSanta;6673566]Hey why'all. Do you usually recommend doing 30 m or hour appointments? Hope I'm posting in the right spot, pretty new to the K-game. Could use some guidance or general advice, DMs are welcome haha.[/QUOTE]It's personal preference but I have read / heard the hour is the way to go, still not sure why but maybe they aren't as rushed?
[QUOTE=MrSanta;6673566]Hey why'all. Do you usually recommend doing 30 m or hour appointments? Hope I'm posting in the right spot, pretty new to the K-game. Could use some guidance or general advice, DMs are welcome haha.[/QUOTE]MSOG sessions are best booked for at least an hour.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;6670384]Hi, I hate to to bring bad news but felt it responsible to bring some awareness to this. This morning (Nov 8) 3 brothel owners were arrested (2 in Boston, 1 in Torrance) and while the CNN article doesn't talk about it, the DOJ website confirms this is an Asian agency operating in Massachusetts and Tysons Virginia. Read here:
[URL]https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/three-arrested-operating-high-end-brothel-network[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/politics/high-end-brothel-network-arrests/index.html[/URL]
Some facts from their website, which all appear credible:
The two websites were [URL]bostontopten10.com[/URL] and browneyesgirlsva. Blog, the first of which is already domain seized.
DOJ was tipped off starting last year in the summer of 2022. They noticed these appointments in phones they put under surveillance, and they interviewed 20 customers.
They claim some of the customers were government officials, which is credible, which would also automatically explain why the phones were under surveillance (people were using their government work phone to visit the places). Or it could have been another reason, but there is no reason to doubt this since it is a minor detail.
The three locations in question were Cambridge, Watertown, and Tysons (Virginia).
The most expensive apartment rented was $3,664, and the owners often paid by turning cash into money orders and using the money orders to pay bills and rent (pretty smart actually!
DOJ claims the price ranges from $350 to upwards of $600 per hour (Okay if true that's a bit steep but this place offered doubles so yeah that would do it).
They went out of their way to emphasize this is a high end brothel with high end customers charging (relatively) top dollar. Not sure why but they repeated variations of this many times.
The investigation is ongoing.
Some of my own observations:
Many girls who worked in Socal, when you look up their TER, often have worked in Tysons and East Coast. Often a few weeks or months before working the West Coast. So while there may be no direct affiliation at all (there probably isn't, they are probably just sharing girls between different businesses that refer each other), it means the network is exposed and DOJ has a lead to investigate completely different agencies.
The reason I post this info here is for that reason. No Socal agencies are directly affected, but they have a lead. If the different businesses are isolated like "cells" enough, it can take time and DOJ might just take the lowest hanging fruit and move on. In past investigations, they could not scratch the surface other than take down a few closely linked agencies (ex: Seattle). And here we are today with way more agencies than years ago in the last local bust. It is expensive and time consuming. Of course it helps that some of their own employees were presumably caught with the evidence on government phones. DOJ employees LOVE prostitutes if you follow the news.
By the way, even if and when they investigate other agencies, as you can see it can take a very long time, 6-18 months, to bear fruit. They have not indicted any girls or customers but say they are still investigating. But in past cases, it is not generally a good use of investigation time to indict them unless you are running a sting and can get the evidence quick and easy (I. E. It is ten times as much work to get good evidence without a sting and it is less likely to be good enough for court).
You can read the 60 page affidavit here if you're curious. I've read many in the past and it's always fun because they have to spell all the facts out:
[URL]https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/usa_v._han_lee_et_al_-_complaint_affidavit_redacted.pdf[/URL]
Very little is redacted so you can see actual text messages, addresses. One excerpt from the affidavit <the following are the DOJ officer's words, not mine>:
"As depicted above, women nicknamed "Kara," "Tina" and "Mimi" were offered to.
The Customer A). I am aware that the reference above to "BB" is a term in the prostitution industry.
That refers to sex without a condom, as evidenced by the Boston Brothel Phone clarifying in its.
Subsequent text of "(BB = without CD" I am also aware that "GFE" refers to "GirlFriend.
Experience" which provides a more intimate experience and blurs the boundaries between a.
Financial transaction and a romantic relationship. Generally speaking, when hen the customers.
Arrived at the apartment unit, they did not knock; the door was opened by an Asian female inside.
Who was expecting them. ".
<End transcript>
I was enjoying reading their take on things. It *almost* sounded as if they personally visited several times to get serviced and corroborate the facts, but then again they claim to have interviewed 20 customers (including themselves? Jk).
Please do not be too alarmed. This is normal and happens every few years. It is an inherent risk. Prostitution should be legalized and already is in many countries (and parts of the USA like Nevada) but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Ok this might be a sign for me to hit the brakes before I even get the ball rolling. Maybe some good can come out of this like dropping their prices if people get scared of going due to this news. How long would you recommend to lay low for?
[QUOTE=MrSanta;6673566]Hey why'all. Do you usually recommend doing 30 m or hour appointments? Hope I'm posting in the right spot, pretty new to the K-game. Could use some guidance or general advice, DMs are welcome haha.[/QUOTE]As with a lot of things: it depends.
Are you planning to build rapport or just satisfying an intermittent sexual urge? One hour is better value but half an hour is economically superior. If you can fill the hour with things that you want or like to do, then the choice is clear. In addition, how you conduct yourself plays a important part too: are you a wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am kind of guy or a marathoner looking to savor the moment as long as possible?
Answers to these question should help clear up which time frame best suits your need. However, worst comes to worst, just try both and see which you like best. Ideally with the same provider as attraction and service are variables that need to controlled to arrive at a conclusion that is valid and significant.