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I agree with your post SH. I see guys all the time being assholes to the girls, then the same guys turn around and get pissed when the bouncer says something to them. Ridiculous.
Also, nice words about Amie. She gives a heck of a table dance and is alot of fun to chat with.
BTW guys, she's having some computer problems at the moment and probably won't be able to log on for a few more days, but if you are at the club tell her you miss her around here and get yourself a dance from her.
Ladmander:
Excellent first post.
Eloquently stated.
No offense taken by me and I hope no offense taken by others.
Your contribution will, hopefully, benefit the hobby.
After re-reading your post, I have a suspicion you are a club dancer. (You don't need to confirm or deny or identify yourself. I just couldn't help getting that feeling as I was reading. If you're not, no offense is meant.)
I hope you will make further contributions to the forum because you seem to know what you're talking about and it sounds like you have substantial experience in the hobby to share.
Sexhobbyist
Very astute!!
I think i know the girl SH was talking about, she is very loud and annoying telling every guy to go to vip so she can #%^$ there %#$&. Don't fall for it.
Also want to talk about my visit to the boat last week. I talked to a girl for a long time, and only got 1 dance. Seemed strange to me that all she wanted was my personality (witch is kinda boring) and had no interest in $ or D. I noticed it was the same for the other guys she was with, although she spent by far more time with me.
Is this going somewhere or should i just forget it and move to greener pastures?
Any advice would be appreciated.
2007 is over so here are some thoughts on the year about the local clubs.
Candy Store has turned into a local phenomenon. It's sucked the customers from all the other clubs into their doors. When I visit other clubs, it's obvious that the CS juggernaut has taken its toll on business at other establishments. It's difficult to say what one thing has contributed most to the success of CS this past year. The management has been customer-oriented. The dancers have flocked to CS because that's where the customers are thus making the selection customer-friendly and plentiful. It's the best variety of dancers in the state. The prices are right for drinks, dances, VIP admission, and door cover charge. The casual attitude of the club contributes to its welcoming atmosphere. The waitstaff is the best in town. Here's what I consider marginal: the DJs—most of them, but not all. The daytime DJ is about the worst in town. If he ever pronounced a dancer's name clearly I would be shocked. My nickname for him is mumblemouth. The music he selects is questionable 50-percent of the time. The only other thing about the club that bothers me is their policy of calling dancers to the stage if the dancer is in the VIP with a customer. This interrupts the flow of the customers' happiness, so to speak; and it causes premature withdrawal for two songs while the dancer is on stage. Other clubs have a policy of skipping dancers who are making money in the VIP—a much more customer-friendly policy. A blossoming CS factor: the dancers who are tired of performing extras or burnt out by the pressure to perform extras or who don't want to perform extras are leaving and going to other clubs where that expectation is not so common. Many good former CS dancers (strictly dancers) are now performing at other clubs. (Rating: A. Extras can be had easily)
Tens is an enigma. Some customers swear by it, but it's lost its luster for me. Other than an occasional feature dancer, there's not much else going on there. The daytime is dead. Dancer variety is pathetic. In addition to the CS factor contributing to the deadness, there seems to be an attitude problem with the dancers and staff in general. I've never been there in 2007 and gotten treated like a welcome patron. The staff and dancers seem to have a "yeah, so what; you're nothing special" attitude. The prices for drinks are jacked up. The best that Tens has going for it has nothing to do with the dancers, staff, or drinks. The best part of Tens is their video system that plays the corresponding music videos for the music that is being played for the dancers on stage. The music videos are interspersed with club info that tells the customers more about the place and the prices for dances. I like it. (Rating: C. Extras can be had infrequently but don't go there with high expectations)
Curves is still a happening place albeit more expensive. This is probably the most expensive club in town. They've raised the prices of table dances, VIP, and Champagne dances. Curves has probably been the least affected by the CS factor and has managed to maintain their lofty status as Tucson Weekly's best adult club. This is the club where the mainstream guy (Johnny out for a night on the town with his buddies once a month) goes for entertainment, not for mongering action. Lots of dancers to select from and lots of variety. There's something here for just about anyone. If a monger tries hard enough (i.e. spends enough money) they will find a couple (few?) diamonds to perform for you, but it's getting harder. It's believed that management has installed video surveillance in the club's "action areas" to keep things restrained. There are a few dancers who will still provide extras for regular clients. The overall atmosphere of the club is generally acceptable. I have a problem with the bouncer wanting to show you to your seat and expecting a tip for it. Thanks, but I can find my own seat and it will be where I want to sit, not where you want me to sit. The waitstaff is generally acceptable although I've been in there for fifteen minutes without getting my drink order taken. The upside is, the waitstaff will do dances; so if you find one you like, you can take her for a spin tableside. (Rating: B. They have great eye candy, but it's not a monger's best playground)
TDs East and West are as different as jock straps and bras. Yes they are both in the same business, but it's the way they conduct business that is the big difference. In 2007 TDs West tried hard to bring changes to the club that would bring back the customers. This club has been hit hard by the CS factor. It's a good day when six customers show up during the day shift. Even though the club has new decor, tablecloths, and management, it still has a bit of a "thuggish/ghetto" atmosphere. This is due mostly to the management's hiring practices of dancers and the DJ. I keep trying to tell the management that it's not the tablecloths, it's the dancers, stupid! And yet, my advice goes unheeded. They still hire the heifers, the street hustlers, the trailer park trash, the wanna-be hookers. There might (I emphasize the word "might") be ONE dancer among the bunch. The rest are unpalatable pulchritude. To it's credit, the management did import talent from Phoenix for a short while to try to boost business. I went and enjoyed myself tremendously, but when I returned, the talent I went to see had disappeared back to Phoenix. It's easy to get extras at this club because the dancers are so hungry for attention they'll do just about anything. One thing that irritates me is their use of a valet during the day when nobody's there! What's with that? They have an empty parking lot, loads of tarmac to pick your parking place and yet, they think it's necessary to have someone direct you for parking or to valet park your car for a fee and tip. This must be the club's version of a "full employment" policy for all the owner's relatives. (Rating: D. Barely tolerable unless you're into tablecloths, but mongers will find many extras here)
TDs East, on the other hand, gets a rating of B because it has the eye candy appeal of Curves, the welcoming attitude of CS, and the DJ that can be tolerable. This club has a nice stable of dancers that includes a nice variety of white, Latina, and Asians, but no blacks (or, maybe, a token black at night). Where this club needs improvement is in their hiring practices (diversity!), prices (highest in town for drinks and table dances) and their customer-to-waitstaff ratio. They don't need ten weightstaff for six customers. It leads to a lot of hovering of staff over the customer's every sip of their drink in an attempt to be the first to rush in for the refill order. This is another club that calls dancers to the stage even if they are occupied in the VIP with customers. It's irritating to get interrupted while enjoying an intimate moment. Someday I'd like to go to the management's home and wait until they are in a very intimate situation and suddenly call to tell them to take out the trash or something stupid like that. This club gets its rating because of the attitude and appeal of the dancers and because extras can be had with the right dancer.
Raider's Reef in 2007 went from good to bad to worse to getting better to mediocre—all in one year. It's a strange club with strange inhabitants. One day you'll find great entertainment with luscious ladies and the next day it will be the human dregs who won't even take off their tops on stage and with a "fuck you if you don't like it" attitude. I don't understand this club and it's mercurial temperament. This club has the distinction of employing the worst dancer in town as well as the best dancer in town. That should give you an idea of the wide-ranging talent employed there. This is a club that allows the waitstaff to dance for customers. To it's credit, dancers are not called to dance on stage if they are occupied in the Champagne room. This is a good thing...a very good thing and a policy I wish other clubs would adopt. There is a wide variety of dancer types here so customers have a wide selection. The problem is that there aren't enough of them. And, the dancers they do have are mostly in the middle range of appeal. This is not the club to go to for eye candy. These are more of the "housewives working on the side" kind of women. They all remind me of working-class women who are trying to look sexy. I've had a range of attitude here from the terrific, "I'm glad to see you" to "here I am and it's only my good graces that I'll bless you with my appearance" attitudes. Like I said, this club has multiple personalities. (Rating: C+. Extras can be had cautiously with the right dancer. Bouncers watch from little windows above and next to the Champagne room. The "+" is because of their policy of not interrupting dancers in the midst of making money in the Champagne room.)
CWNN (Club With No Name) has been designated as such because it's a great alternative to Candy Store where the attitude by everyone is just right. The reason the club goes without naming is an attempt to keep it from turning into another CS mobbed by the masses and ruining a good thing. Those in the know are aware of where the club is.
All of the clubs mentioned so far have been the venue for fs in 2007 with multiple dancers in each club. This is the biggest change in local club mongering this past year—fs can be found in all of the clubs.
Turbulence and Bunny Ranch are two clubs that I have to wonder, "how in the world are these places still in business?" I suppose they have their place in the hierarchy of strip clubs, but they are not the places to go for fun. Neither of these clubs get a passing grade from me. Don't waste your time or money.
I look forward to participating in the hobby in 2008 and my New Year's resolution is to find even more talent to plunder.
Sexhobbyist
While at a local establishment today I was greeted at my table by a dancer who sat next to me and said that she remembered me. I asked her how she remembered me and she said that I was the guy who tipped her a dollar when she was on stage earlier in the week. She said that she regretted that she got busy and was never able to come to me afterwards so she wanted to stop and say thanks.
I tip dancers on stage in order to get them to come to me to ask for dances. It seems simple, but you'd be surprised how many mongers forget this simple way to meet dancers. It's also an occasion to ask the dancers for dances if you find one that you particularly like.
I asked her if she'd like to dance for me. I had seen her dance for others and my instincts told me that she'd be a good one. Sure enough, her table dance was promising. While giving me the dance she got me excited by stroking my equipment and was cooing about my size when she suggested that we go to the VIP after this song. We did.
In the VIP, when the music started she straddled me, unzipped my trousers, began the dick worship, and asked me what I usually did in the VIP. Since this was a first-time dancer I was experiencing, I told her that I usually get dances from (insert names of willing dancers known to be customer friendly). She said she understood and started to slide her pussy up and down the shaft of my bareback dick. After a minute of this, it's now obvious that she's well-lubricated and getting turned on. She asked if I wanted to take this to the next level and I told her that something like that was her decision. As I was speaking, I pulled a condom out of my shirt pocket for her to see. She didn't hesitate to tear open the package, cover me up, and slide me in. She was seriously getting her rocks off so I just let her ride. Eventually I felt her climax when her pussy began pulsating and she began gasping and moaning. She threw her arms around me and whispered in my ear that she was sorry that she came before I did. I wasn't worried because I knew she'd want a second round and that's when I'd get my jollies. Sure enough she started undulating on my dick and she began to get her second wind. This was my cue to begin some serious fucking so I concentrated on making it happen for me. It turns out that we climaxed together, her for the second time.
After we uncoupled, I asked for her name and told her that she was a pleasant surprise. She said that she was horny and that my dick was inspirational. I asked her what I owed her since this was kind of spontaneous. She said that this was awkward because she hadn't intended for me to pay for it because it was her idea and her horniness that drove her. I smiled and asked her if that dollar I gave her on stage a few days ago was enough. She laughed and said that we could do this again and she'd make sure I was ready for it.
While at this club I also nailed one of my waitresses later in the afternoon.
I visited three clubs on this Sunday. At CS I can recommend Foxy, Mary Jane, and Ebony (the latter two are cousins).
Sexhobbyist (doing my best to end the year with my dick in a pussy)
[QUOTE=Ladmander]1. Look like you're having fun.
**If you like to "hole" up in a dark corner with a scowl on your face, then approaching you will be a matter of monetary desperation. Nothing more.**
2. Don't dress like a bum.
**You don't have to be off the cover of GQ, but for God's sake don't look like you threw some shit on that you just dug out from under your bed! It probably doesn't fit you anymore anyway and you'll need an F-16 jet engine on full afterburner to get the wrinkles out.**
3. Smell Nice
**Throw away the Old Spice and quit shopping at Walgreens for your cologne. Hit up the finest looking little thing near the cosmetics dept (Dillards, Macy's etc) to help you if you're challenged in this area. Women can't lie about what smells nice.**
4. If you can help it, don't drink.
**Even though you're in an establishment that serves alcohol, the smell of liquor mixed with the fact that you're dehydrated (the leading cause for bad breath) can create a brew that she will never forget, and will make every effort to avoid. And no..lots of beer does not equal proper hydration. Gum and mints are great, but don't let them see you popping them in your mouth. Makes you look pretentious.**
5. Unless you're an idiot and can't control yourself, bring more money than you intend to spend.
**There are ways to set limits on what you're going to spend w/out appearing cheap to the ladies. Especially if it's evident that you can afford much more if you want to. Nothing wreaks more of "pathetic loser" than the guy who walks in on Friday (popular payday) and walks out completely broke. And guess what fellas, they can tell when this happens.**
6. Make things clear w/out stating it outright.
**This is not really a 101 topic, but know that there are ways to communicate what you want in a way that is neither offensive or shocking to your target. In short, make it their idea. I guess until you can figure out how that works, just know that you don't blurt out that you want to slip them salami! Get my meaning?**
7. The VIP is a time of reckoning. Don't blow it.
**This is where a girl makes her total opinion of you. Don't go straight for all the "parts". Get her worked up by avoiding the parts for awhile. If you're doing it right, she'll take you there herself. Don't sit there like a dead man either. Get to the hair, the neck, the back the shoulders etc. Get real close to the "parts" w/out actually going there. Drives them nuts!**
8. Recognize their state of mind.
**OK, I'm going to get a lot of flack for this one, but it's something that can make a big difference sometimes. If it's clear that your target is on a controlled substance, (look at the eyes! Listen to how she's talking!) you can really get in the express lane with this one. She's prepared herself to deal with some crazy ass shit for the day. Still, all of the above apply. Don't take too many short cuts just because she's high. That shit works in the opposite way too. It can make her flip out on you.**
9. I should have put this near the top, but I forgot until now. Tip them more than a buck on stage if you want them to differentiate between a tip and a request for their company.
**Not a lot more. Maybe 1 or 2 more. Don't be cheap fellas. Besides the quicker she gets to you, the less time and money you spend on other BS while your waiting for your ship to come in. And like SH says in his previous post, ask them to come over. The reason I say 2 or 3 is because maybe some other guy "asked" for them to come over. She's going to have to mentally get it straight in her mind where the payday is. Sometimes a little more makes you the first choice.**
10. Finally. It's not expensive to satisfy other staff. With them, it's a gesture that they don't get enough of because it's not part of the show. Ah, but it is! Make a small gesture. .05 here and there once or twice a visit. Then it's Carte Blanche boys!!!
Have a great New Year.[/QUOTE]
Ladmander,
Do we know you?
I do not think so.
Before you so arrogantly promote your strip club success methods to the local board, perhaps we need to know a little more about you.
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
Just as a starter ...
You made some great points, but the way it works around here is that the board needs to be comfortable with all of the posters and that includes you.
Post some info regarding your club encounters and allow us the time to get to know you.
Thanks
DN
Ok, spent a little time with J (name of the week) at CS. Nice girl. We had some dances and I could not remember how many. Not drunk, just distracted. Well, she calculated it up, seemed right and I handed her a wad. She then tells me, no shit, "hey you gave me too much. " I had in fact, handed her an extra twenty. She then gave it back. When was the last time you had a nice girl who actually helped you pay her what you negotiated and didn't just take it as a big tip? First time for me. I also had a few from T. Not bad at all. MILF with a 30 yr old body. Really sweet. And another first. This was the first time that a dancer kissed me in the VIP. Not the little brushes up against the lips, but with tongue. For several songs. I will definitely see her again and see if she wants to spend some time in other ways. So, a couple of unexpected firsts for me. Again, such a damn rookie but a good way to spend the afternoon. Seniors can PM for J's name. She might not take it to the level you're used to but a nice, honest dancer who keeps what she negotitates.
Went to CS last Saturday and was only there a few when a blond MILF with bolt ons asked for a floor dance. Dance was ok. I am not a bolt on liking guy, but near the end she asked if I was there for a good time or a really good time. Great question, she then asked if I had an $+- and took me to the VIP. She must have had rent due because she showed no hesitation about getting down to business. The room was rather full and she was so obvious one of the other dancers told her to "be sure not to swallow". She told me to hurry because she was on stage next, no pressure, but this was not her 1st rodeo and things came off well. I had been visiting clubs for 20 years and was unaware of the great service to be had until I started reading this forum. Thanks all.
I try to lurk when I am not in town, but too much good stuff has been posted not to make comment.
Grant, Great first post! Welcome!
LadMan, What the fuck can I say? I am impressed by your writing ability your insight into the mind of the stripper and the points you have made that ring true. Like SH, I read your initial post and felt you must be female because your message and insight is similar to Aimee's early posts. I can accept at face value your claim to be male. That being the case, you too have invested a serious amount of time and cash to have learned from the dancers many of the tips you have put out for us. Any attempt to disguise your stratospheric intelligence quotient in the future will certainly be doomed to failure.
My basic premise on this board is that when another man has helped me find sex with a beautiful woman or women, he has shown one of the greatest kindnesses. The logical conclusion to that line of reasoning is that some guys are going to become really great friends; and that is the case in my personal situation. It is true that I have nothing but good things to say about SH, that is not hero worship, he is my friend.
I thank you for your contributions to this board thus far. I look forward in hopes that you will continue to grace us with more of your insight (Lesson #201?). Yes, raising your head above the crowd sometimes makes you a target, sometimes a hero, sometimes a villain, but it is all good somehow. I hope that incident with DN will not dissuade you from continuing to post.
Dick, You have probably seen the beer commercial. It goes something like this...
[center][b][size=3]"Dude..."[/size][/b][/center]
I mean, there is nothing in his posts but opinion and common sense insight gained from time in a lap chair, even if you choose not to believe he is who he says he is. Not everybody likes to post their deeds or mis-deeds for fear of cross-referencing by the spousal units and others. Ever wonder why you have never read a post by the infamous BB of Nogales fame? Recall that Lad Man came here just to make a comment with no intention to add anything further. It was SH and PS who essentially and effectively invited his further input, just as I have done above. My friend, I understand you are the pillar of caution, but I believe your concerns are misplaced. I further have to agree with Lad that nobody really needs anybody but Jackson's approval to post their opinion, including yourself. I write this publicly to ask you to bury the hatchet with Ladmander.
SH, Nuff said I guess, except that 31 seems like a huge number right now, and 9 will seem like a tiny number in a month...
Happy Nude Year Strip Club Fans!
LoveLOS
Well, guys. I'll be flying into town Wed, Jan 9th. Looking forward to popping that afternoon and spending some time with my new friends at CS. I know I need to go check out some of the other clubs mentioned here, but I just have so much fun at CS, and my time is usually so limited, I just find myself sticking with what I know.
Looking forward to it.
Dick,
Thank you for handling your comments to me by PM. I should have used the same wisdom. As you know, I hold to my position that you were too hard on Ladman and that my "welcome" to him is sincere.
OTOH,[center][b][size=3]"I apologize for my disrespect toward you!" [/size][/b][/center]My teasing was wrong and I was not only out of line, but I was too hard on you. I know the motivation for your caution is the security and health of this board--it always has been. It teaches me that whether you are a newbie, a respected senior, or someone who really really should know by now how to behave on a board; that you still have to watch what you type and how you phrase things every time you hit post. I concur that we all three phrased things too strongly. I hope you will forgive me.
Peace.
LL
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]Dick,
Thank you for handling your comments to me by PM. I should have used the same wisdom. As you know, I hold to my position that you were too hard on Ladman and that my "welcome" to him is sincere. ...
LL[/QUOTE]
LoveLOS, I have expressed my admiration of you many times on the AZ forum and the DC forum. Nothing in that regard has changed ... with the exception that after your last post, you now stand about 12 feet tall. You are indeed one of the USG's most significant and respected members.
Ladmander, thank you for your response. This process has given us all an opportunity to know one another better. Many of us also share similar anonymity concerns. It's apparent that you have a wealth of information to share and I look forward to future exchanges on the USG.
Take care all
DN
Wow. These last few posts have just left me all teary-eyed. Let's all have a group hug and sing kumbaya.
LOL.. Seriously, it's nice to have a forum to go to where people can be civil to each other. It's not like that on most forums I visit. Glad to see we actually have some real grown-ups here.
kUMBAYA HARD
KUMBAYA SAFE
[QUOTE=Merlin Magician]kUMBAYA HARD
Kumbaya SAFE[/QUOTE]Hi again folks. Last time here was oct-06 right before I stupidly got married and now divorced. Ah well, it was a happy 3. 5 months, her service was GFE with DFK BBBJTCWSW BBFS but didn't speak greek, she gave a wicked 2 fingered mexican oil change though.
Hope I can start contributing again, I am finally rising above the financial rut that I am in due to her. Almost like a ROB sheez.
Anyway, Happy New Year Bros!
Visited CS Sunday (5pm-8pm). I arrived late, perfering the early shift (11-4). However, still there were several girls that wanted to play (four different VIP tours), with numerious (3 of 4) willing to take uncovered gland-in-hand, but none seemed interested in going the full distance.
It must have been the post holiday blues, or maybe that most of the girls had enough monies to hold them for a while.
I keep getting PMs asking how I'm able to sample so much talent in the clubs. Here's a typical day (yesterday):
I'm at work at 5 am. I can get more done in the early hours than I can the rest of the day.
9:15 my Female Pimp (FP) stops by. It's her job to find me fresh talent every day or else serve it up herself. She tells me about a dancer at a club she wants me to meet. We make arrangements to meet up later in the day at the club. She gave me a ten-minute tug and suck with a little salad tossing thrown in to get me in the mood for the rest of the day.
The next two hours I receive twelve phone calls from dancers wanting to know if I'm going to see them today. I selectively pick and choose giving priority to the freebies I like followed by the pay-to-play I really want to train. I make tentative arrangements with a couple of them to meet at their club, CWNN, in the afternoon.
I finish my work and am sitting in CS at noon. A dancer I have known for six years sits next to me and squeezes my crotch. I fuck her about once a year just to remind myself of her charms, but since she fucks almost every customer, I try not to make her a habit. She knows how I feel, but we're friends anyway. She tells me that her and another dancer I get dances from (and from whom I get fs regularly) want to do me together outside the club. We make arrangements for next week for the threesome.
Other than Amie, there's nothing to excite me at CS so I leave and head over to meet up with my FP who introduces me to a stunning sweet young thing (SYT). The three of us get to talking and the SYT starts dancing for me. I can tell she's got promise so we go to the VIP. It doesn't take long before she's whipped out my dick and is doing her dick worshipping. She proves she has no gag factor and that she's willing to take it in any orifice. We leave the VIP and rejoin FP who takes SYT to the dressing room. After about ten minutes they emerge and everyone agrees that SYT and I will be coupling tomorrow outside the club. FP has done her job for the day.
We split up and I drive to CWNN where I found two of my favorites that I talked to earlier in the day and was able to get free fs x 2.
Done at the clubs, I headed home, showered and got a call from one of my ATFs (a club dancer) who invited me over to her house for dinner. I arrived and was delighted to see her since she's always been a favorite and can always satisfy me. Most importantly, she knows I enjoy her cooking and can't resist a dinner invitation. She had a female friend who is a cute, hot MILF (mid-30s) wearing a nice top showcasing her amazing perky naturals and who is helping make dinner. The conversation got suggestive and fun. At one point the female friend brushed past me in the kitchen doorway and her hand lingered on my crotch for a fleeting moment. I looked at my ATF with a shocked expression and she gave me a smile and a wink. Over dinner I had to listen to the female friend's life story which basically boils down to she's married to a loser and has nothing going for her. She's a neighbor of my ATF and they get together almost daily for gossip. After dinner, I helped clear the table and my ATF cornered me in the kitchen and whispered that she had told her female friend about me and the friend wanted to fuck me. I nodded my agreement. To make a long story short, I did the female friend, just the two of us, for about an hour then my ATF joined in for a nice, cozy party.
After I got home, my FP called to confirm the get-together with the SYT in the morning.
Total cost for the day was a few drinks. FP gets a regular paycheck. The SYT will be taken care of by FP and it will show up on her expense report later in the month.
That was a typical day in the life of Sexhobbyist.
And it starts over again tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]I keep getting PMs asking how I'm able to sample so much talent in the clubs. Here's a typical day (yesterday):
I'm at work at 5 am. I can get more done in the early hours than I can the rest of the day.
9:15 my Female Pimp (FP) stops by. It's her job to find me fresh talent every day or else serve it up herself. She tells me about a dancer at a club she wants me to meet. We make arrangements to meet up later in the day at the club. She gave me a ten-minute tug and suck with a little salad tossing thrown in to get me in the mood for the rest of the day.
The next two hours I receive twelve phone calls from dancers wanting to know if I'm going to see them today. I selectively pick and choose giving priority to the freebies I like followed by the pay-to-play I really want to train. I make tentative arrangements with a couple of them to meet at their club, CWNN, in the afternoon.
I finish my work and am sitting in CS at noon. A dancer I have known for six years sits next to me and squeezes my crotch. I fuck her about once a year just to remind myself of her charms, but since she fucks almost every customer, I try not to make her a habit. She knows how I feel, but we're friends anyway. She tells me that her and another dancer I get dances from (and from whom I get fs regularly) want to do me together outside the club. We make arrangements for next week for the threesome.
Other than Amie, there's nothing to excite me at CS so I leave and head over to meet up with my FP who introduces me to a stunning sweet young thing (SYT). The three of us get to talking and the SYT starts dancing for me. I can tell she's got promise so we go to the VIP. It doesn't take long before she's whipped out my dick and is doing her dick worshipping. She proves she has no gag factor and that she's willing to take it in any orifice. We leave the VIP and rejoin FP who takes SYT to the dressing room. After about ten minutes they emerge and everyone agrees that SYT and I will be coupling tomorrow outside the club. FP has done her job for the day.
We split up and I drive to CWNN where I found two of my favorites that I talked to earlier in the day and was able to get free fs x 2.
Done at the clubs, I headed home, showered and got a call from one of my ATFs who invited me over to her house for dinner. I arrived and was delighted to see her since she's always been a favorite and can always satisfy me. Most importantly, she knows I enjoy her cooking and can't resist a dinner invitation. She had a female friend who is a cute, hot MILF (mid-30s) wearing a nice top showcasing her amazing perky naturals and who is helping make dinner. The conversation got suggestive and fun. At one point the female friend brushed past me in the kitchen doorway and her hand lingered on my crotch for a fleeting moment. I looked at my ATF with a shocked expression and she gave me a smile and a wink. Over dinner I had to listen to the female friend's life story which basically boils down to she's married to a loser and has nothing going for her. She's a neighbor of my ATF and they get together almost daily for gossip. After dinner, I helped clear the table and my ATF cornered me in the kitchen and whispered that she had told her female friend about me and the friend wanted to fuck me. I nodded my agreement. To make a long story short, I did the female friend, just the two of us, for about an hour then my ATF joined in for a nice, cozy party.
After I got home, my FP called to confirm the get-together with the SYT in the morning.
Total cost for the day was a few drinks. FP gets a regular paycheck. The SYT will be taken care of by FP and it will show up on her expense report later in the month.
That was a typical day in the life of Sexhobbyist.
And it starts over again tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Certainly makes my lousy day pale in comparison...I've never had that day even on my BEST day! All this time I thought I was haveing a good day when I visited CS and rec'd dances from 5 young ladies culminating in a terrific bbbj and left only $$ lighter in my wallet. Go figure!
Looks like I need to find a FP, SYT, and ATF to help take care of me. It's clear that I'm not doing good enough on my own!
I need help!
my computer has been down for quit some time, but is now back up. You guys sure had a lot to say while I was gone. I also see that we have a few new members, Hello to you.
[QUOTE=Juicy Amie]my computer has been down for quit some time, but is now back up. You guys sure had a lot to say while I was gone. I also see that we have a few new members, Hello to you.[/QUOTE]
Welcome back. Sorry we didn't get some time during my visit to CS yesterday. I really wanted to but I got distracted, lol. It's been far too long since I've had your pleasant company...
True, true K! But look at it this way, SH is simply showing the rest of us just how much further we might be able to go!
But then.. I don't know if I could keep up with SH for a day.. let alone a week!
Just to throw an "Howdy" there also. Well and to mention that your *know* what kind of responses you'll get around here about getting things back 'up'.
Sorry. Couldn't resist!
[QUOTE=Amorist1]True, true K! But look at it this way, SH is simply showing the rest of us just how much further we might be able to go!
But then.. I don't know if I could keep up with SH for a day.. let alone a week![/QUOTE]
Just curious if you guys understand that the SC hobby support funds for SH are a major factor ... not to mention 'dick size' and other unique physiological traits that offer him advantages that most of us have never experienced.
We all admire SH ... but 99.9% of us will never occupy a position similar to his in the monger world.
My advice is to learn from his teachings, but please don't delude yourselves into a belief that you can mimic his accomplishments.
DN
[QUOTE=Dick North]My advice is to learn from his teachings, but please don't delude yourselves into a belief that you can mimic his accomplishments.
DN[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Amorist. I agree that considerable funds are allocated for the care and tending of "little SH" (Despite the "reports" the tool, by definition, is smaller than the mechanic); SH has given us a viable road map that can be followed. We can live the dream, which is why many of us hobby in the first place! The mission, should you choose to accept it, is to make a shitpot full of cash so that your mongering budget is sufficient to do any thing you want. I realize that is a tall order, but budget and targeted, wisely-invested time is the ONLY thing separates SH from anybody else.
I have to admit that when SH ran the FP idea by me on PM, I never thought it would work more than a few weeks. That it is still in place almost a year later is both humbling to me and a fucking tribute to the man's genius.
Others have said they can't fuck as much as SH. I used to think that way, but I found that is is short sighted. If you get used to fucking three or four times a day, your unit will rise to the occasion, trust me. And there are daddy's little helpers if needed.
SH, I would not presume to request the services of your personal FP, but it occurred to me that among your acquaintances may be a wonderful female comfortable with that type of position for a few days next month? Just like me to ask for a lady comfortable with multiple positions.
Speaking of next month, most of you know I am coming to town soon. I would not mind having a roundtable with the more respected members here if any are open to that. I would also love to party with any of you in Nogales.
PM for more info
LoveLOS
Aime, I look forward to making your acquaintance IRL!
Well, I never even tried to *imply* that anyone here might equal SH's accomplishments. Some due to funding, some due to time. However, let's keep in mind that prior to May 6, 1954, no one thought a 4 minute mile was possible. Roger Bannister changed the thinking and since then bunches of folks have met the time. Heck, John Walker beat the 4 minute clock 129 times!
So, with that in mind, perhaps SH has simply shown us where the 4 minute mark IS and now so many others will set the bar higher for ourselves! As for me. Heck. 8 minutes?
Ok. I'll. Ahh. Just set the soap box over here.
First, allow me to confess to a deception in my previous post about my typical day. I do not get homecooked meals on a typical day. But, I am usually in the company of a woman most evenings.
Second, I admit to having certain advantages that allow me to enjoy the hobby on my terms. What I experience and write about (it's all fiction, LEO!) is meant only as an example of local knowledge that others can take advantage of, if they desire. I think this is a terrific hobby and I want everyone so inclined to enjoy it with the passion and dedication I do. I hope others can learn from my experiences. Those of you I have come to know, realize that I'm willing to share in an effort to make the hobby fun for all.
My typical day; the next day.
I was working at 5 am, as is my usual routine. At 9:30 my FP arrived with the SYT. Since this was the SYT's first time with me, my FP accompanied her to make her feel more comfortable and secure. Three hours later, nobody was moving. Three bodies were barely breathing. I'm pretty jaded and it's rare that I get surprised by something a woman does to get me excited, but I have to admit this SYT surprised the heck out of me. And it just kept coming. I'd write about it, but nobody would believe it. I plan to keep her in my rotation.
Speaking of rotation, while all this was going on, my voicemail was in overdrive with messages from dancers who wanted to get with me that day. FP screened the messages and gave me the list of who I should be seeing later that day. I got cleaned up and headed out.
At CWNN, one of my regular fs honeys was busy with a customer so I diddled around getting table dances from others while I waited. One of them was good enough to take to the VIP and I wasn't disappointed. She's perfect for LoveLOS and I hope to bring the two of them together when he arrives. Of course, I will have broken her in by then.
It looked as if my honey was going to be busy for a while longer so I left and went to another club where my voicemail told me a rendezvous with one of my fs regulars would be waiting for me. She's a waitress who has been having an affair with me for years and about whom I've written before on this forum. I got the signal from her to do a "hit and run" in the VIP so we did.
I went back to CWNN and my honey was now available, but I was kinda spent from the day's activities so we had a terrific make-out session and I fingered her to a squirting climax.
I went home and collapsed for the day. My FP came over and snuggled with me and gave me my schedule for the following day. The next thing I knew, it was morning—this morning.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Amorist1]Just to throw an "Howdy" there also. Well and to mention that your *know* what kind of responses you'll get around here about getting things back 'up'.
Sorry. Couldn't resist![/QUOTE]
Hey I've never had a problem with that before, but I guess theres a first time for everything.
[QUOTE=Amorist1]Just to throw an "Howdy" there also.
Hello to you too. I hope you are having fun in here, if not then hopefully you have learned a few things you can use elsewhere.
Aime, I look forward to making your acquaintance IRL![/QUOTE]
Hi swettie, I already have the dates down and am looking forward to meeting you in a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]I was at CS yesterday enjoying the relaxing atmosphere. Lots of dancers were stopping by to say hi and sit on my lap including Amie. It's always a pleasure to see her. She always has a pretty smile and friendly word.
After some opening round sex from my ex in the VIP, I was sitting at the table stage-side with my newbie buddy teaching him the ropes when Amie introduced me to one of her friends. After a couple of table dances, I can see that she's VIP-worthy so we head up and claim a couch. This first-time dancer who had been working at the club for a while was getting her freak on with my dick when she asks if I have a condom. Being the Boy Scout that I am, I whipped out the protective device and she put it on me and rode me good and hard until she came. Senior members can PM me for the name.
Amie was also instrumental in helping to preserve my reputation. Apparently while I was in the VIP, the newbie I was training was making an obnoxious pig of himself and irritating the dancers. Amie came into the VIP while I was fucking my ex for the second time that day and told me about his behavior. The bouncer also said something about controlling my guest or "he would be invited to leave." After finishing up with my ex, I went out to sit with the newbie and I could see for myself the mess he was making of the situation. I had to lecture him about proper respect and protocol, again. After seeing him get dances from another dancer and doing the same obnoxious thing while ignoring my admonition, I told him we had to leave. He was embarrassing me and himself by being disrespectful to the dancers.
Here's the deal, guys. Be respectful of the dancers and the rules. Behave yourselves. The dancers will let you know when it's okay to touch and play. And don't get caught playing tableside. Save it for the VIP. Don't piss off the talent or you'll not be getting any more dances. And, don't piss me off, either. Don't be putting my reputation in jeopardy. I've spent years building up rapport with dancers and club management and I won't have a newbie spoil it all just because he's an idiot who doesn't know how to treat women.
Thanks, Amie, for helping me through a difficult situation. Also, thanks for introducing me to your friendly dancer who I've added to my list of fs sweeties.
Today's lesson: Be nice to the dancers and they'll be nice to you. Don't be a pig and all good things will land in your lap.
As for Amie...she is a valued member of this forum who is, herself, a classic beauty and a talented dancer. She is worth patronizing with business and, if she's not your type, she'll make sure you have a good time with one of her friends. Just treat her respectfully and you will be grateful for her advice and talents—guaranteed.
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the kind words. Also thank you for taking care of your friend, he was getting to be a little too much. As for the dancer I am sorry that happened she is not on my top list anymore.
Good thing in here for everyone to know, a couple of you that I have met from here have been a little rude just like SH friend (I think you know who you are) try and be a little more respectful when you go into the clubs and you might begin to have a little more fun with the available toys. Sorry I had to make quick posts today I woke up late and am off to work. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Juicy Amie][QUOTE=Amorist1]Just to throw an "Howdy" there also.
Hello to you too. I hope you are having fun in here, if not then hopefully you have learned a few things you can use elsewhere.[/QUOTE]It's always fun learning new things! I've had the opportunity from time to time to apply a little bit of knowledge at CS but, alas, it seems I've never been there when you were. Well. Then again. Most of the time I can't understand the DJ so it's possible you *were* there and he *did* announce you but I just couldn't understand!
Hmm. Maybe I'll need to try to set something. Um. 'up'.
(ok. Ok. I'll stop.)
I went in to see you today Aime, but while i was waiting i decided to give Tracy a try. Only took 2 songs and i had to leave. My fault i guess since i had not released in 36 hrs or so. (thats way to long) Nevertheless i shall see you another time.
Not sure if Tracy will go for the vip treatment but she certainly does some naughty floor work.
[QUOTE=LoveLOS].
I have to admit that when SH ran the FP idea by me on PM, I never thought it would work more than a few weeks. That it is still in place almost a year later is both humbling to me and a fucking tribute to the man's genius.
Others have said they can't fuck as much as SH. I used to think that way, but I found that is is short sighted. If you get used to fucking three or four times a day, your unit will rise to the occasion, trust me. And there are daddy's little helpers if needed.
SH, I would not presume to request the services of your personal FP, but it occurred to me that among your acquaintances may be a wonderful female comfortable with that type of position for a few days next month? Just like me to ask for a lady comfortable with multiple positions.
Speaking of next month, most of you know I am coming to town soon. I would not mind having a roundtable with the more respected members here if any are open to that. I would also love to party with any of you in Nogales.
PM for more info
LoveLOS
[/QUOTE]
It's true. The old expression, "use it or lose it" is especially valid when it comes to mongering. I keep my tool in shape by exercising it daily. I've found that when I let a day or two go by without giving it attention, it takes a while to get back into the regular routine when opportunity presents itself. If, on the other hand, it's used two, three, or four times a day, every day, it seems to be always ready and willing.
FP has been a valuable investment. It was her idea. Picking the right person for the job has been key. She has the willingness and aptitude to want to do a good job. She enjoys what she does. I've never been disappointed by her performance and I look forward to a continuing relationship. While my FP is my own special assistant, I can suggest one or two others for the job when you arrive.
Sexhobbyist
I can happily report that the CS was alive and well this past weekend. Visits on Fri, Sat, and Sun kept me well occupied this weekend. Saturday's visit was one of the best ever to date (even if it was the shortest in time). I think others have mentioned (SH for sure) that if you catch one of the dancers when they are already horny - watch out. That was my experience on Saturday. One of my 'regular' dancers surprised even me with just how hot things turned out.
Suffice it to say it was a great end to last week (or a super start to this week depending on how you look at things)!
Happy mongering to all...
K4me
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]Others have said they can't fuck as much as SH. I used to think that way, but I found that is is short sighted. If you get used to fucking three or four times a day, your unit will rise to the occasion, trust me. And there are daddy's little helpers if needed.[/QUOTE]I don't have a problem in the world getting my unit to rise to the occasion just minutes after a good session. My problem is that I can't get it to release. And if it does, it takes a LOOONGG time. Anyone else experience this issue? In this case I don't think the little blue pill is going to be of much assistance. Am I wrong in thinking this?
Advice anyone?
[QUOTE=Missing Sonora]I don't think the little blue pill is going to be of much assistance.
Advice anyone?[/QUOTE]
The little blue pill will definitely NOT help you out with this..it actually can make your problem WORSE (from personal experience).
[QUOTE=Monger X]The little blue pill will definitely NOT help you out with this..it actually can make your problem WORSE (from personal experience).[/QUOTE]
I can confirm that as well. It can come in handy if you're "lining them up" thru the evening but...
[QUOTE=Missing Sonora]I don't have a problem in the world getting my unit to rise to the occasion just minutes after a good session. My problem is that I can't get it to release. And if it does, it takes a LOOONGG time. Anyone else experience this issue? In this case I don't think the little blue pill is going to be of much assistance. Am I wrong in thinking this?
Advice anyone?[/QUOTE]
I can tell you your not the only one, many people go through this. You should try different teqnics and eventually you will find one that works for you. You could try masterbating for a little before hand it might help.
[QUOTE=Juicy Amie]my computer has been down for quit some time, but is now back up. You guys sure had a lot to say while I was gone. I also see that we have a few new members, Hello to you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]Welcome back. Sorry we didn't get some time during my visit to CS yesterday. I really wanted to but I got distracted, lol. It's been far too long since I've had your pleasant company...[/QUOTE]
Guys, learn from my 'mistakes.' On several visits to the CS recently I'd had every intention of spending time with Amie (I even asked her to come see me when tipping her on stage only to be otherwise engaged when she got off stage). Well, yesterday Amie found me and we got a chance to visit. Do yourselves a favor and don't wait as long as I did to see Amie. She's a sweetheart!
Thank you again for our time together yesterday Amie!