You guys are lucky to have a selection of good WSW's. San Diego is lucky to have 1 or 2 good lucking SW's a month.
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You guys are lucky to have a selection of good WSW's. San Diego is lucky to have 1 or 2 good lucking SW's a month.
Very relaxing experience in Switzerland for a late dinner. Hosted by Precious(rhonda), spinner, road worn face, but nice bod. Multiple cups of tea, and although there was a full menu, I limited myself to a few items. hour and a half+ for $. More info to those that have been kind enough to scratch my back in the past.
On a side note apparently has been an increase in LE activity which has accounted for the drought.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]You guys are lucky to have a selection of good WSW's. San Diego is lucky to have 1 or 2 good lucking SW's a month.[/QUOTE]
I was in the Great American Canoe Club at 32nd street in 74-78. There were SWs everywhere, especially downtown.
What happened?
The City decided to redevelop downtown and build Horton Plaza. The city then drove all the SW's from downtown to El Cajon blvd. There was some really great action downtown. About 3 years ago there was a occasional SW, but they have left since all the gaslamp was fixed up.
I don't consider myself a hardcore monger.
I like to prowl, but I very very very rarely if ever participate.
I did spend a good 2 months working long hours in Daytona. I will admit it was sort of better in ways.
TONS more WSW, lots of cuties, I didn't evne know about the spots, just found them cruising a little while getting paid overtime. (don't tell the boss)
Also stopped in the Pink Pony and was propositioned.
I mongor ObT pretty often all hours of the day, worked near there awhile ago and even just cruise for fun. Its been dead recently very few WSW, even fuew WSW, I probably know more of the back roads then some.
I have hit it form 3-9am, noon-4pm, and 10pm-2am
As for Dean, and old cheney, I hae cruised them numerous times and never see anything, just twice on dean, and once on Cheney, but it seems there are always police patroling Cheney, and its hard to cruise that area (its small)
Dean, never any LEO, but then agian, no reason because almost never any SW
I cruised, 50, and some toehr spots, including Old Cheney, and Dean, didn't see shit tonight.
Friday night. Didn't feel like making the long drive over to the Daytona Ho Buffet, so I cruised around OBT a bit. Quantity was high, but quality was low. A lot of familiar faces. Don't get me wrong, a lot of the SW's look good, but I recognize most of them as girls that I or others have had a bad time with. After you eliminate the known bad apples, there aren't many left to choose from.
I finally picked up a BSW called "Babydoll" near Oak Ridge. She looked familiar to me, but I didn't find out why until we got to her room. It turns out "Babydoll" is the half-sister of "Kitty", A BSW that I dated before and wasn't too impressed with. Luckily for me, Babydoll turned out to be a lot better than her sister. Better looking and better attitude. CBJ + DATY + FS for $60.
Wasn't done yet, so I picked up HSW "Diana" near the Jordan 7/11. The pic is her, but she has kinky blonde hair now. Went back to her room. CBJ + FS for $50. She doesn't do DATY. Nice body, average service and attitude.
There was a pimp from out-of-town hanging around the Park Inn (the motel next to Best Buy) and the Sunoco station next door. He was handing out his business card and trying to recruit girls to join his crew.
Be careful in the Safar Inn parking lot. There is an asshole in a red hatchback car pretending to be a cop. His license plate # is GOO 1JX. He is a tall, stocky white guy with spiked blonde hair. He has a foreign accent, sounds Eastern European to me. He cut me off with his car, jumped out, and said he is an undercover officer and he was arresting me for trespassing. He wasn't acting like a real cop, and I've been around long enough to smell bullshit, so I immediately asked to see his badge. He didn't have a badge, so he changed his story and said he is hotel security and that gives him the authority to arrest me. More bullshit. He got so mad that I wasn't falling for his lies that his face turned bright red and there was practically steam coming out his ears. He finally threatened me, "Just get out of here or I'll fuck you up!" He looked mad enough to make good on his threat, so I left the area.
I considered filing a complaint about this asshole to the real cops. Impersonating a police officer is a serious crime. However, after thinking it over, I decided to file my complaint with the hotel manager. My goal is to get this idiot fired, not to send him to jail. If anyone out there has had a similar experience to mine, I encourage you to call the hotel manager and complain.
Over and out.
[QUOTE=Mathers]Hit BSW Laina a few weeks back. CBJ & FS for a Benjamin. She seemed really into it the first time. Was able to put my hands anywhere without restrictions. I saw her a few days later and just went for the CBJ for a Grant. She asked me if I could feel how wet she was so when I reached down to feel she says "No fingers". I'm thinking WTF? Didn't say anything and when I had finished pressed me for a tip. I don't think I would repeat with her.
I ran into Heaven the BSW Monday morning on OBT & Sand Lake @ around 2AM. Said she would do BBBJ for a Benjamin. I tried to get her down to 2 Jacksons or a Grant but she wouldn't go for it so I let her out soon afterwards.
Saw a BSW on Edgewater by Lee Rd. almost across from the Race Trak gas station between 2nd St. & Annandale Ave. at around 1AM Friday morning. Nice body but she disappeared before I could get a look at her face. Saw 3 guys keeping an eye out on Aloha St. which I thought was excessive for one girl. Used to be some hot Puerto Rican girl working the same area back in 2003 who did BBBJCIMWS for a Jackson. Wore a blonde wig. Nice spinner.
Anyways I'm posting a couple pics of BSW Honey from California below. Saw her a few times last year. Her skin isn't tight on her body but she isn't flabby. She does have a great set of tits. She quoted me two Benjamins for anal but that was last year.[/QUOTE]She is a beauty!
I spent some time with Babydoll and Kitty (Kitten) as well back in May. First it was Babydoll - very nice unrushed date with all the activities I wanted except greek (did not request)...
On the way to drop her off, she told me about her sister and got me kinda interested... Called her and told her where to meet us - I was game; so, made the deal and took her back to my room for test out lil sister. She was actually a better fuck when she got into it, but a bit more rushed than Babydoll... Overall good time but Babydoll was time better spent.
FYI
Happy Hunting and Play Safe!
Went out Saturday morning around 10:30 and most areas were void of any action. Cruised all the way down to the mall and nada. On the way back up I spot this 5'4" skinny brunette around 11:30 that was walking just north of Oakridge. Had the typical WSW walk, looking around for pickups. Had her jeans rolled up over her calfs. Anyway, I pulled into a parking lot just ahead of her and she looks over and I give her a nod and she hops in. Says her name is Shelly and she's from Tennessee and just got into town. I find a spot to park and get the pipes cleaned for a Jack and a Ham. Good skills, no spills, does spit. This one's a repeater. Had me drop her at the Sleep Well. Hope to find her out next week.
PHFJ Out!
Thanks VS for your pm. I have some girl-friends taking care of me.
It's good to see T69 is back. We miss your [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/fileslist.php?sortby=3&fid=&page=1207]pictures[/url].
J
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A good friend of mine was going to the Florida Mall last Saturday but arrived in the area before the stores opened so he drove around the area to kill time. He had no intentions of mongering but he drove through the parking lot at the Days Inn and was pulled over by Sheriff's Deputies. He said the had 4 cars around him when he pulled over and they all different makes and models. He was questioned, had his vehicle and cell phone gone through and let go after about 15 minutes.
He told me next time, he's going to the Seminole Mall.
I was interested in a Murphy bed so I took a cruise down OBT to check out the store. On the way it started blasting rain as soon as I got onto OBT at the 408. Believe it or not, I saw two white girls walking between the 408 and I4. One of them had this really bright short red hair. I couldn't believe it so I looped around to have a look. I could barely see for the rain. They were just walking along talking. It didn't look like they were working so I went on down the road.
I checked out the bed store, too expensive, and started cruising up and down OBT. I did not see much. I saw one blonde BSW just standing on the corner by Cleos. She was giving the high sign to every car that went by. I saw the old bat by Lancaster you guys were talking about. Yuk. One really chubby HSW down by the bowling alley.
After about two hours of driving I decided that OBT was dead. I haven't had any fun down there in over a year. Right when I was giving up I spy a smoking hot blonde in the parking lot of the Sunoco by the Park Inn. I didn't know if she was working but I wanted another look. I went on down a ways and turned around.coming back I see the red hot HSW spinner with these white pants that looked like they were spray painted on. She was walking towards the Sunoco also.
I wanted to see what was going on so I pulled into the coat place. The HSW did not appear to be paying any attention to anyone so I went into the Sunoco parking lot to check out the blonde. I got a close look at both of them and they were nines on any scale. The bloinde looked like she was approaching people in the parking lot. Right then the blonde hops into a guys car. I figure she might be working after all. I swing around looking for the HSW. The blonde hops out of the guys car before they even get out of the parking lot and crosses the street. I guess he didn't like the price. The HSW was back on the street talking on a cell phone not paying attention to any cars. I had already made my turn south so I turned around for another pass.
I still couldn't figure out what the deal was. LEO? What are the odds that two hot girls would pop up out of nowhere at the same time? I made another pass and they were both gone. I may miss out a lot of times but I am not going to swoop in of a girl the second I see her no matter how good it looks. If they are legit, they will be back later or tomorrow. Oh and the blonde had really long hair past her a$$. Sorry I keep forgetting the camera.
I am back headed north going home. I just passed I4 and I spy a couple of girls going into a side street. I get up to them and it's the rain girls! They were walking into a swarm of mongers so I just went on. I saw this tall blonde giving me the eye at 17th. There was something odd about her. I kept thinking that she might be a refugee from the PH. I made one more pass and she was gone.
I bagged it for the day. Another dry run. The way things have been going down there lately, any day you can get home safe without being scammed, robbed, arrested, or killed is a good day.
[QUOTE=BankShot]Right then the blonde hops into a guys car. I figure she might be working after all. I swing around looking for the HSW. The blonde hops out of the guys car before they even get out of the parking lot and crosses the street. I guess he didn't like the price. The HSW was back on the street talking on a cell phone not paying attention to any cars. I had already made my turn south so I turned around for another pass.
I still couldn't figure out what the deal was. LEO? What are the odds that two hot girls would pop up out of nowhere at the same time?[/QUOTE]Sounds like Devin and Kat. They are not LEO. They ask for $200. That is the reason they get in and out of cars so quickly. They have been working that part of OBT for a long time now, so someone must be paying them. You can look Devin up on TER and see that she has extremely poor reviews. In this hobby, 9 times out of 10, the more you pay the less you get.
[QUOTE=Headhunter2000]Sounds like Devin and Kat. They are not LEO. They ask for $200. That is the reason they get in and out of cars so quickly. They have been working that part of OBT for a long time now, so someone must be paying them. You can look Devin up on TER and see that she has extremely poor reviews.[/QUOTE]
When I first read bankshot report I said this is one of [Post=539897]the upseller teams[/post] [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39702]Candy[/url], Devin and recent addition Kat.
[QUOTE=Headhunter2000]In this hobby, 9 times out of 10, the more you pay the less you get.[/QUOTE]
HH well said
J
In O-town on business as I am about twice a week. Cruised up the trail about 10am. Nothing, nada, ziltch. So I went on about my business. Return trip about 3pm. Spied a very skinny, but not chicken-head, short haired brunette WSW walking on the east side over by Chick-fil-A. She was a cutie, wearing a white top and tight denim shorts. I turned into the 7-11 just up the street to get some gas. I had done a quick you-turn by the chick-fil-a to get a better view of the WSW. I guess that got the attention of a unmarked white LE cruiser that followed me into the 7-11. While pumping my gas I caught the eye of the WSW when she walked by. I pulled out of the gas station and the LE was close behind. I just kept on going. Up to I-4 and got outta there.
The unmarked white LE crusier appeared out of no-where.
Be careful boys.
Good to see you back!
I'm glad the rumor isn't true that you and Executive Talent moved to Cape Cod and opened up an Antique shop!!!
Just kidding J, I know you don't swing both ways---VS
[QUOTE=Dmasters]A good friend of mine was going to the Florida Mall last Saturday but arrived in the area before the stores opened so he drove around the area to kill time. He had no intentions of mongering but he drove through the parking lot at the Days Inn and was pulled over by Sheriff's Deputies. He said the had 4 cars around him when he pulled over and they all different makes and models. He was questioned, had his vehicle and cell phone gone through and let go after about 15 minutes.
He told me next time, he's going to the Seminole Mall.[/QUOTE]
None of this could happen or would happen if you had said "Officer, I would like to invoke my right to have an attorney present during any and all questioning" if they push for the search simply say," I do not give permission to search my car without a warrant signed by a judge" and then shut up and stop trying to explain yourself". They will try all kinds of horseshit and intimidation and sometimes provocation to rattle you---just shut up.
If they searched your car and your cell phone it's because you gave them permission, you had too, with 4 cars with different cops. Because none of them would want to break the law in front of the others.
They intimidated you. Probably by saying things like "If you have nothing to hide whats the problem with searching your car, let us do it and you'll be on your way." The "problem" is that you gave up your right not to incriminate yourself. If they had found any reason to arrest you they would have! And you would have done it to yourself.
Frankly they thought you were a drug dealer or mule, they may have had the motel staked out, rarely will they go to that much trouble for a monger with no girl in the car, for a misdemeanor bust.--VS
I was out Tuesday evening and checked out the trail before going home. It was about 7:30pm when I headed north from Sand Lake. Went all the way up to Cowboys and didn't see anyone who looked like they were working. On the way back down the trail saw a BSW about half way between Cowboy's and I4. She was slim with nice boobs, but I prefer the white meat. So didn't check her out. Didn't see anyone else that I thought was working until I was past Sand Lake. There was a nice looking slim WSW, reddish-blonde hair walking north by the Sunoco. I turned around at Best Buy and she was still walking. Pulled into the parking lot north of the Pizza Hut and she turned around just before that. I went back down to the Burlington parking lot and she came over and hopped in. She said her name is Snow. Wanted a see note for full service or a Grant for a French lesson. I said I didn't want to spend that much, so she left. No negotiating. She was cute and had a good attitude, a little quiet; I may check her out if I see her when I'm really out to find someone. Sorry I don't have any pictures. Didn't have a camera.
I had a friend that did a u-turn then a KPD car pulled him over he asked if he could search his car my freind told him NOoooo the KPD called a OCS K-9 unit over the OSC LEO took the K-9 around the car and said the dog reacted to it (all bull shit) then a State Trooper big hat and all at this time both OSC & KPD LEOs where in the car my freid was sitting on the hood of the KPD car the ST asked what was going on? my freind said just a little civil rights violation thats all. the ST went over to the other LEOs talked a little then they told my freind that when the dog reacted to the car that gave them probable cause but they didn't find anything and that he could go so my frend said KPD LEO you never told me why you pulled me over the LEO replied you have a bald tire get it fixed. my freind said in that case could you tell the rest of the LEOs not to pull me over again because you already told me but then my freind told the KPD LEO to forget it because all the LEOs were already here. the KPD LEO then replied Oooo beleave me there are more of us now go home to and said my freinds address like it was burned in his mind.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]None of this could happen or would happen if you had said "Officer, I would like to invoke my right to have an attorney present during any and all questioning" if they push for the search simply say," I do not give permission to search my car without a warrant signed by a judge" and then shut up and stop trying to explain yourself". They will try all kinds of horseshit and intimidation and sometimes provocation to rattle you---just shut up.
If they searched your car and your cell phone it's because you gave them permission, you had too, with 4 cars with different cops. Because none of them would want to break the law in front of the others.
They intimidated you. Probably by saying things like "If you have nothing to hide whats the problem with searching your car, let us do it and you'll be on your way." The "problem" is that you gave up your right not to incriminate yourself. If they had found any reason to arrest you they would have! And you would have done it to yourself.
Frankly they thought you were a drug dealer or mule, they may have had the motel staked out, rarely will they go to that much trouble for a monger with no girl in the car, for a misdemeanor bust.--VS[/QUOTE]But I'm curious as to how far your approach can be taken before you might be taken in for "questioning". If you ask for a lawyer can you be taken in without formally being arrested? Can they arrest you on some minor deal like trespsassing? In other words, if you have nothing to hide and my friend didn't, why not cooperate to a point and avoid the possibility. He told them it was OK to search his phone and vehicle because he had nothing to hide. Now, if it was me and I had pics in the cell phone or something or ads laying in the vehicle, your way is obviously best.
He said they were aggressive in saying he was a liar, asking questions such as who had he talked to, who was he there to meet, etc. Because he wasn't mongering, he just kept repeating his same story.
It's not an experience I'm familiar with but having dealt with LEO in a couple of instances, I've felt comfortable not being antagonistic, being cooperative and trying to determine the point of no return.
I respect your views and ultimately, your way may be the best in most cases.
By the way, you kept referring to "you" instead of "your friend".
Here are my thoughts (from experience):
Cooperate be nice but know your rights and ask for them politely without an attitude and do not ever incriminate yourself even if they charge you with obstruction of justice. It will be dropped. It saved me a lot.
Know your rights. Cops are allowed to lie to suspects. Watch this:
[url]http://iwantmylawyer.org/busted.html[/url]
[Post=530772]Another good thing to have a bust card![/post] Read Nemodc reports [Post=530738]Something EVERYONE should read, download, print, keep with them[/post] and [Post=530754]bust card[/post]
I recommend reading [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3280]the whole thread[/url].
Good readings if you got arrested:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=530727&postcount=64[/url]
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=535324&postcount=9[/url]
J
[QUOTE=Dmasters]
By the way, you kept referring to "you" instead of "your friend".[/QUOTE]
Because in most cases when people talk about what happened to a friend or a buddy at work or a guy they know or a dream they had-----they are usually talking about themselves.
In answer to the Questioning Question. They can't take you in for questioning unless there is a lawyer present if you request that a lawyer be present during all questioning. All Questioning, even seemingly innocent questions.
They CAN detain you for a reasonable amount of time if there is reason to believe you may have committed a crime(i.e. you car fits the description in a liquor store robbery 3 miles away) after a reasonable amt. of time ( enough to investigate the circumstances) they have to arrest you or let you go.
You described your friend as driving through a Day's Inn parking lot so...the reasonable cause for stopping and searching him is....what?
None...but they asked him for the search and he agreed....a fishing expedition. They found nothing and they cut him loose...what if they had found an ounce of Pot under the seat because he had loaned the car to his teenage son the night before or some syringes because his wife is a diabetic.... your friend did nothing but he is going to jail for posession. All because he "knew he wasn't doing anything wrong so why not let them search the car". All because he gave them permission, so they didn't need a warrant.
Just remember that Law enforcement does not have your best interest at heart in this situation, they are looking for an arrest. You can do anything you want in this situation, in your scenario they were "yelling, calling him a liar, asking him all kinds of questions etc----all classic intimidation to get him to submit to a search.....and it worked, if you want to "co-operate, go for it, but if your bagged everything you say "can and will be used against you in a court of law" and the more you run your mouth...the harder your attorneys job is----VS
[QUOTE=Headhunter2000]Orlando is in the shitter right now. There is nothing worthwhile on CL and the current crop of SW's on OBT are as useless as tits on a boar-hog. Daytona, on the other hand, has more freaky ho's than a trailer park has cockroaches. [/QUOTE]I agree that the SW situation in Orlando is the bleakest I've seen it.
What's the current SW situation in Daytona?
Is is it still good?
Tasha still around?
Is daytime a good time to cruize?
Thx
Date: Sep 13, 2007 6:53 AM
Missouri: Police Threaten, Detain Motorist for Parking After Hours
A St. George, Missouri police officer is caught on tape threatening to invent charges to arrest a motorist for parking after hours.
A motorist who refused to discuss his personal business with a St. George, Missouri police officer was threatened with arrest last Friday. Brett Darrow, 20, no stranger to unconventional encounters with police, caught a St. George Police Sergeant James Kuehnlein stating that he had the power to invent charges that would put Darrow behind bars. Update: Sergeant Kuehnlein was placed on unpaid leave Monday pending an investigation.
"Try and talk back... to me again," yelled Sergeant Kuehnlein. "I bet I could say you resisted arrest or something. You want to come up with something? I come up with nine things."
The incident began at around 2am. Darrow was to meet a friend who was working late and was going to pick him up. Darrow headed toward a 24-hour commuter parking lot in an unincorporated part of Saint Louis County in his 1997 Nissan Maxima. He put on his turn signal and entered the lot which, aside from Kuehnlein's cruiser, was essentially vacant. After stopping the car, the police officer approached and began questioning Darrow about what he was doing. When Darrow declined to discuss his personal business, the police sergeant exploded. Although the video clearly shows Darrow driving properly and using his turn signal, the police officer insisted that Darrow had broken the law.
"Oh, while you were coming towards me you were swerving back and forth within the roadway," Sergeant Kuehnlein said. "I might give you a ticket for that. You want me to come up with some more? When you turned in, you failed to use your turn signal, your right turn signal."
Without the video, Darrow tells TheNewspaper that he would have stood no chance disproving the officer's word in court. Twenty-eight percent of the St. George municipal budget comes from traffic citations. Darrow wonders how many of the tickets were legitimate.
"Looking into this guys eyes, he was crazy," Darrow said. "I was really scared he was going to assault me. I just wonder how many other people have been arrested on these charges."
After ordering Darrow against the car and searching him, Sergeant Kuehnlein released the motorist.
Article Excerpt:
Transcript of audio made by Brett Darrow:
1:07
Officer #1: How we doin? What's going on?
Brett: Nothing.
Officer #1: Why you parkin here?
Brett: Can't I park here? It's a commuter lot right?
Officer #1: Yeah, but we have problems after midnight time. People break into cars. You got any ID on you?
Brett: Yeah, I do.
Officer #1: Can I see it please?
Brett: Did I do something wrong?
Officer #1: Yeah you're a suspicious vehicle right now.
Brett: I'm what?
Officer #1: [Leans into the car and yells] You are a suspicious vehicle right now.
Brett: In a commuter parking lot?
Officer #1: Yeah you are cause we have car thieves in here. Yeah you're right.
Brett: Cause I can park right here.
Officer #1: You want me -- You wanna come out of the car? Come on out. Come on out.
1:32
[I exit the vehicle]
Officer #1: Let me see your ID.
[I give him my valid Missouri License]
Officer #1: Let me see your insurance card for the vehicle.
Brett: Did I commit a moving violation?
Officer #1: Yeah you did, when you were coming in here.
Brett: Really? What was that?
Officer #1: Yeah, you wanna try me? You wanna try me tonight? You think you've had a bad night? I will ruin your ****ing night.
[Officer starts to get close up to my face]
Officer #1 You want to try me?
[Officer is inches away from my face, screaming as I'm pinned between him and my vehicle]
Officer #1 Do you wanna try me young boy? Do you want to try me tonight young boy?
Brett: No I don't.
Officer #1: Do you want to go to jail for some ****ing reason I come up with?
Brett: No I don't.
Officer #1: Do you wanna see who knows the law better, me or you. My experience compared to your young ass. Huh? Don't ever get smart mouthed with a cop again. I show you what a cop does. Do you understand me?
Brett: Yes sir.
Officer #1: Try and talk back -- Talk back to me again. I bet I could say you resisted arrest or something. You want to come up with something? I come up with nine things. Do you wanna try something?
Brett: No I don't.
Officer #1: Wait here.
2:52
Officer #1 Oh, while you were coming towards me you were swerving back and forth within the roadway. Okay? I might give you a ticket for that. You want me to come up with some more? When you turned in, you failed to use your turn signal, your right turn signal [Turn signal was used, see video at 0:06]. You wanna try me some more? Huh? Come on smart ass. Gimmie an attitude a little bit more. I bet -- I guarantee I can tow this car by the time I'm done with you. You wanna try me now? Gimmie a little more lip. [officer gets back up in my face] Come on boy. Come on boy give me some more lip. You're done?
Brett: I don't want any problems officer.
Officer #1: You're about ready to get it. You already start your ****ing problems with your attitude. Did we have a bad night boy? Huh? Answer me or I'll lock you up for failure to imply with a police officer's commands.
Brett: Cause I'm not answering your questions about my personal business?
Officer #1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to show you? You want me to show you? You want me to lock you up to show you I'm right and you're wrong?
Brett: No I don't officer.
Officer #1: You want me to show you the ****ing law.
Brett: No, I mean I know Sean who used to work here. [A new neighbor of mine that used to work in the St. George police department]
Officer #1: Sean who? You mean my buddy, my best friend?
Brett: Yeah. He's me neighbor.
Officer #1 Okay, he's my best friend. Oh good. Why don't you go call him and tell him you came in front of Kuehnlein and see what he says If you got lucky you'll walk away from me.
Brett: I really don't want any trouble officer.
Officer #1: What are you doin' with a camera hooked to your car seat?
Brett: I have lots of cameras in my car.
Officer #1: Why is that?
Brett: And they upload to secure sources
Officer #1: Okay. I don't really care about your secure sources. I've got one in my car. See that?
Brett: Okay.
Officer #1: It's a secure source.
Brett: Okay.
Officer #1: I really don't care about your camera system cause I'm about ready to tow your car. Then we can tear them all apart...
Brett: Oh well, it doesn't matter. The videos not even in here.
Officer #1: Okay, it doesn't matter, I really don't care about your video
Brett: I'm sure the news will like it.
Officer #1: I don't really care cause you're about ready to go to jail.
Brett: I don't want to go to jail officer.
Officer #1: I'm gonna show you you're about ready to.
Brett: You're right officer
Officer #1: Okay.
Brett: I'm sorry.
Officer #1: You think these security cameras -- I guarantee ya, mine and my boy mic is gonna tell a little different and your attitude.
Brett: I don't want any problems.
Officer #1: You started it. Why do you have an attitude? As a matter of fact, I was gonna come in here, see if you're okay. First of all we have people try to commit suicide in here. We have car thieves come in here. We have people break into cars here. I have enough probable cause to stop you. Okay?
Brett: Okay officer, I'm sorry. I don't want any problems.
Officer #1: What is your problem tonight?
Brett: I just had a bad night officer.
Officer #1: You know what? You don't take it out on me. You don't never take it out on a cop cause we will ruin your career and life and everything else you have coming before you. Okay?
Brett: Okay.
Officer #1: What is your problem tonight?
Brett: I had problems earlier, I just came in here to sit.
Officer #1: You know what, that's all you tell me. You don't give me no problem with -- what did I do wrong cause I guarantee I come up with nine things. If you know Sean, why don't you ask Sean about me. Okay?
Brett: What's your name?
Officer #1 Sergeant Kuehnlein.
5:31
Officer #1: Do me a favor. When you do turn in here next time, use your turn signal.
Brett: Okay.
Officer #1: Okay. And seriously if you are pissed off, you're impairing your driving. Okay? I don't know if you were talking on the phone or just not paying attention, you were honestly coming down the roadway not staying within your roadway. You were honestly going back and forth. I don't know what you were doing, but I go it all on tape. Okay?
Brett: Okay.
Officer #1: I don't know if you were playing with something else, or paying attention to something else, I don't know.
Brett: Alright.
Officer #1: You need to be more aware. And when people pull you over, my job ain't to be P-ed off. Okay? My job is to conduct my career and my job. Okay?
Brett: Okay.
Officer #1: I don't have to have a reason to pull you over. First of all you're a suspicious vehicle in the commuter lot that's pretty much vacant and the commuter lot hours is after dusk, after 12 o'clock. Okay? You understand what I'm getting at? I know the law a little bit... How old are you by the way? 18?
Brett: I'm 20.
Officer #1: Okay, I was close. Okay. I think I've been around, as a matter of fact, I've been a cop almost as long as you've been alive. Okay?
Officer #1: Do you understand what I'm getting at?
Brett: I really don't want any problems officer.
Officer #1: Do you understand what I'm getting at? I'm trying not be ignorant, but when you give me lip, I'm gonna give it right back to you ten times harder. Okay? You give me an attitude, I'm gonna give you attitude a lot harder. Okay?
Brett: Alright.
Officer #1: You understand what I'm getting at? I'm trying to honestly see what's wrong, why, with your attitude. You understand?
Brett: Yeah.
Officer #1: Okay. You seem... You ever been in trouble before?
Brett: Yes.
Officer #1: For what?
Brett: Assault.
Officer #1: To who?
Brett: An off-duty police officer.
Officer #1: A cop?
Brett: I was assaulted by a police officer and a grand jury dismissed all the charges and the City of St. Louis paid me not to sue.
Officer #1: Okay. You have a problem then. Is it, was it your attitude that night, probably? Or he just had...
Brett: No.
Officer #1: Or he just had...
Brett: No, it was an intoxicated off-duty police officer that attacked me.
Officer #1: Oh, it didn't happen while he was on-duty?
Brett: No, He was off-duty.
Officer #1: You need to honestly lose... Okay, where do you work at?
Brett: I own my own company.
Officer #1: What do you do?
Brett: I'm a painter. I'm a paint contractor and I go to school.
Officer #1: Okay. Let's say you're a painter. Okay. You were going to sit there a few minutes right?
Brett: Yeah.
Officer #1: We're gonna talk for a few seconds. Okay, then I'll let you go. If you don't have no warrants against you, I'm gonna run your name real quick. You don't have no warrants do you?
Brett: No.
Officer #1: Okay, lets say I come to your job or you come to my house, wherever you're painting and I start giving you attitude. What would you do? Would you get a little irritated about that? And probably not do a great job of painting or something? Am I right or wrong?
Brett: You're right officer.
Officer #1: No. Don't agree with me cause you want to agree with me now. Agree with me because, if I'm right, tell me if I'm wrong.
Brett: I don't want any trouble.
Officer #1: Here's my back-up you don't think I'm gonna do anything. We've got cameras and body mics.
Brett: Well I don't know. You said you were going to charge me with resisting arrest and whatever else.
Officer #1: Well yeah. I can come up with more stuff than you can.
Brett: I'm just standing here.
Officer #1: No, cause you kept flinging your hands. [My hands were held at my beltline the whole time]
Brett: My hands were down here.
Officer #1: At toward me. Nah, you were swinging up and down.
8:30
[Officer #2 walks up and #1 starts talking to him]
Officer #1: He comes by me, coming down the road going in and out of the roadway within, within the lane. Failure to use a right-turn signal.
Brett: Was I speeding too?
Officer #1: Speeding. Do you understand I don't have to pull you over for speeding. Okay, It's your driving.
Officer #2 He's got a camera in the car.
Officer #1: It's to a secret link. I told him about our cameras too and our body mics. But anyway, the first thing he does is give me attitude about why I'm pulling him over. First of all, he's in the commuter lot after dark. I told him a lot of people try to commit suicide. Uh, people steal cars. People break into cars. He tried giving me lip and uh, he tried telling me all this stuff.
Officer #2 Why does he have the camera?
Officer #1: Cause he was assault right, but an off-duty drunk city cop so he put cameras in his car. I don't understand it. Anyway, that's him. But, now he's just agreeing with me just for the fun of it cause he had a bad day so he thinks he's gonna tell me the law why I can't pull him over.
Officer #1: It's called... When you go home and you want to tell everybody, first thing you tell em, you were pulled over because you were a suspicious vehicle. In the State of Missouri, we have the right to stop anybody walking for a pat check, or stop a suspicious vehicle anytime. Okay? That was my probable cause. And this parking lot, as a matter of fact, what's this parking lot called? Officer #1: What did you just call it?
Brett: It's a parking lot.
Officer #1: What kind?
Brett: A commuter parking lot
Officer #1: Are you commuting somewhere? Are you commuting somewhere?
Brett: How would you know that?
Officer #1: Are you commuting somewhere?
Brett: How would you know that?
Officer #1: That's why I was coming to inquire about that, but you just told me you were going to sit here.
Brett: You don't know if I was going to wait here for somebody to come pick me up.
Officer #1: I asked you that, did I not.
Brett: I don't have to say anything. I have the 5th Amendment right.
Officer #1: Do you really?
Brett: Do you know what the 5th Amendment right is?
Officer #1 Do you know what impeding the flow of a police officers duties are?
Brett: What's that? Go ahead, tell me.
Officer #1: Whenever I ask you... If I'm conducting an investigat... This is called a field investigation, if you're impeding it, you're impeding it.
Brett: You're saying, I can't refuse to answer your questions?
Officer #1: They're not incriminating are they?
Brett: You don't know that.
Officer #1: Are they incriminating?
Brett: Yes they are.
Officer #1: They are?
Brett: They could be.
Officer #1: Then are you doing something illegal here?
Brett: No I'm not.
Officer #1: Then they are not incriminating.
Brett: Yes, they could be incriminating. I have the right to privacy.
Officer #1: What privacy? Not when you're out in public, you don't have the right to privacy.
Brett: Yes, I do have a right to not tell you where I'm going or what I'm doing.
Officer #1: Really?
Brett: It's the 4th Amendment right.
Officer #1: Really?
Brett: Yes it is. Violation of my rights...
Officer #1: I like this. You want me to tell you the law.
Brett: Go ahead and tell me the law.
Officer #1: If you fail to comply with my orders, my lawful orders, you have the right to go to jail. Failure to comply with a police officer.
Brett: Your lawful orders to answer your questions...
Officer #1: Yes, my field.
Brett: Personal questions?
Officer #1: What's personal questions? You're sitting here in a commuter parking lot at 2 o'clock in the morning, you understand.
Brett: Okay, that's fine.
Officer #1: You know what, I think I'm gonna bring you with me. Come on.
Brett: Officer please.
Officer #1: I think you're gonna come with me. Then you can try and sue me in grand jury and I bet you I win. Then I'll sue you.
Brett: Officer I really... I just had a bad night.
Officer #1: Well let's ruin your night. You want to show me attitude.
Brett: No, no I don't.
Officer #1: I want to show you the law. I want to show you the law. I'm gonna show you my law is right yours is wrong.
Brett: Officer, I'm sorry. Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I've had problems with everybody tonight and I didn't mean to give you attitude. It's just one of those nights.
11:46
Officer #1: [Officer #1 looks at Officer #2] He's getting sorry now.
I'm sure you've had the same nights.
Officer #1: I don't take it out of people.
Brett: I know, and I shouldn't either.
Officer #2- [speaking to officer #1] He's got a scanner in his car.
Brett: I've always got a scanner in my car.
Officer #1: And by the way, that is technically a burglary tool cause you're scanning us while you're driving around. You're trying to see if you're gonna be detected. [The scanner was off]
Officer #1: What do you do? Do you go look for trouble?
Officers #2- [speaking to officer #1 while looking through my back window at a small hidden camera] That is a camera.
Brett: I have multiple cameras all over the car.
Officer #1: You have issues man. Okay?
Brett: Alright, I'm sorry.
Officer #1: I think I want to take you to jail just to prove you wrong. Do you have any weapons or anything on you I need to know about?
Brett: No.
Officer #1: If you would, turn around and place your hands on the car real quick. I'm gonna pat you down.
[At this point the officer finds nothing and I am finally released.]
My two cents:
Know your rights, but don't act like a smart-ass. Understanding your rights is good, but understanding the psychological profile of an uneducated trigger-happy redneck vice-cop is more important. If a cop pulls me over and asks me what I am doing, I openly admit that I am looking at the women who are walking around. I choose my words carefully so that I am being honest but not incriminating myself. The officer gives me a brief lecture on the dangers of prostitution. I don't get cocky or argue. I just play dumb and pretend he is telling me things I don't already know. This lets the cop save face and feel like he did something. Five minutes later, I am on my way, and I go look for SW's somewhere else.
On the other hand, if I act cocky and lie about what I am doing, the cop wants to show me that he has power over me, so he makes me wait on the side of the road thirty minutes for a K-9 unit to show up. It just isn't worth the added time and hassle to bruise a cop's ego and make him look stupid. Sounds simple, but it took me a lot of trial-and-error to figure that out.
P.S. OBT still sucks. I haven't had time for a Daytona Run, so no idea how things are on Ridgewood now.
Saw the same wsw on Edgewater as I posted on last Fri. about noon. Guess this makes her a regular but still know nothing about her.
Early 4:30amish this morning saw a tall curly hair blond on Edgewater near the Racetrack in the shadows of the unlit streets close by. By the time I gulped my coffee down and got turned around someone else got her.
Lee was dead so headed off to NOBT to see no one stirring then headed off to the coast. No one spotted all the way to Titusville. Did a Brevard report if interested.
I saw a couple of really tasty options on OBT in the early evening, but I am a bit spooked about doing the parking lot thing in that area. I am getting to old of for that and have had too many scares lately -- the thrill of public sex with anonymous women is gone. Sex in a hotel room with the same is still a good time. Anyone have any suggestion on hotels or perhaps where *not* to go in the OBT area? I am thinking about the Holiday Inn Express or La Quinta, but want avoid anyplace with a reputation for busting guests, cooperating with LE, etc. Basically I am looking for a place where I can stay one night (then move on in the same area) and can get away with bringing in street pick-ups. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Welcome to O town. Here are my thoughts;
I'd say stay away from Quality Inn. I-dr hotels are better alternative and most have backdoors. I am away these days.
J
[QUOTE=WebDog]I saw a couple of really tasty options on OBT in the early evening, but I am a bit spooked about doing the parking lot thing in that area. I am getting to old of for that and have had too many scares lately -- the thrill of public sex with anonymous women is gone. Sex in a hotel room with the same is still a good time. Anyone have any suggestion on hotels or perhaps where *not* to go in the OBT area? I am thinking about the Holiday Inn Express or La Quinta, but want avoid anyplace with a reputation for busting guests, cooperating with LE, etc. Basically I am looking for a place where I can stay one night (then move on in the same area) and can get away with bringing in street pick-ups. Any thoughts would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Saw a possible WSW, dean/50.
Was at the 7/11, she asked for some change, dirty blonde hair, low 20s, seemed out of it. Small baby a-cup.
Brown outfit and brown skirt, looked clean though.
[QUOTE=WebDog]I saw a couple of really tasty options on OBT in the early evening, but I am a bit spooked about doing the parking lot thing in that area. I am getting to old of for that and have had too many scares lately -- the thrill of public sex with anonymous women is gone. Sex in a hotel room with the same is still a good time. Anyone have any suggestion on hotels or perhaps where *not* to go in the OBT area? I am thinking about the Holiday Inn Express or La Quinta, but want avoid anyplace with a reputation for busting guests, cooperating with LE, etc. Basically I am looking for a place where I can stay one night (then move on in the same area) and can get away with bringing in street pick-ups. Any thoughts would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Days Inn by I-4 and the Safar. From wht I have read here, the Safar may not be good anymore. Both have decent rooms in the sixties range. The ones futher south are in the high eighties and up. I even got a room at the Sands once. I think it was $40. I would rather blow the extra $20 and have a cleaner room.
I used to do this every other weekend and it was fun. The girls liked it better too. The trouble with this plan now days is that you can go get a room and cruise all day and not see anything. Then you have just wasted money on a room. I haven't done it in over a year. I may give Daytona a try before VS gets them all. :.)
[QUOTE=GoofyGoober]Saw a possible WSW, dean/50.
Was at the 7/11, she asked for some change, dirty blonde hair, low 20s, seemed out of it. Small baby a-cup.
Brown outfit and brown skirt, looked clean though.[/QUOTE]What Time of day Did you see her?
[QUOTE=BankShot]I have stayed at the Days Inn by I-4 and the Safar. From wht I have read here, the Safar may not be good anymore. Both have decent rooms in the sixties range. The ones futher south are in the high eighties and up. I even got a room at the Sands once. I think it was $40. I would rather blow the extra $20 and have a cleaner room.
I used to do this every other weekend and it was fun. The girls liked it better too. The trouble with this plan now days is that you can go get a room and cruise all day and not see anything. Then you have just wasted money on a room. I haven't done it in over a year. I may give Daytona a try before VS gets them all. :.)[/QUOTE]Rather than get a room a look for SWs and not find any. Why don't you call up an agency to have them send you some companionship?
I saw this girl cruising OBT yesterday. I know it was the same one in this picture -- I am 100% sure of it. Didn't pick her up, but will be cruising tonight and will be curious what the price delta is. No way I am paying $100 for a street pick-up, even with those DSLs!
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/422554001.html[/url].
[QUOTE=Badboy69]What Time of day Did you see her?[/QUOTE]Night time, probably a good 30 min prior to the actual post.
Tanya (of Tuscany Village fame) is now a star!
She can be seen at:
www(dot)crackw****confessions(dot)com/tour/index(dot)htm
This was done before she got pregnant and moved out of the Tuscany Crack Den. I dont think the pregnancy has been very good for her career as a provider.
I would recognize those missing teeth anywhere !!
[QUOTE=True Critic69]Rather than get a room a look for SWs and not find any. Why don't you call up an agency to have them send you some companionship?[/QUOTE]Have your home address in the hands of an "agency"? Around here all of the agencies are ripoffs. On top of that you pay three times the price for the same hos.
Shopping is half the fun.
Sounds like a craigslist sting you call the number and then drive to this hotel, and if you have that number in your phone they will bust sounds more like entrapment but sounds like a sting to me!
[QUOTE=Dmasters]A good friend of mine was going to the Florida Mall last Saturday but arrived in the area before the stores opened so he drove around the area to kill time. He had no intentions of mongering but he drove through the parking lot at the Days Inn and was pulled over by Sheriff's Deputies. He said the had 4 cars around him when he pulled over and they all different makes and models. He was questioned, had his vehicle and cell phone gone through and let go after about 15 minutes.
He told me next time, he's going to the Seminole Mall.[/QUOTE]
I was just checking the site and found Christine (uses different name on OBT I believe Shery or Shelly ...etc.). Also Sheila wow
J
[QUOTE=Badboy69]Tanya (of Tuscany Village fame) is now a star!
She can be seen at:
www(dot)crackw****confessions(dot)com/tour/index(dot)htm
This was done before she got pregnant and moved out of the Tuscany Crack Den. I dont think the pregnancy has been very good for her career as a provider.
I would recognize those missing teeth anywhere !![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Badboy69]Tanya (of Tuscany Village fame) is now a star!
She can be seen at:
www(dot)crackw****confessions(dot)com/tour/index(dot)htm
This was done before she got pregnant and moved out of the Tuscany Crack Den. I dont think the pregnancy has been very good for her career as a provider.
I would recognize those missing teeth anywhere !![/QUOTE]
Wow man! That is her! And she does give a mean clean. Haven't seen her around in a couple months.
PHFJ Out!
[QUOTE=BankShot]Have your home address in the hands of an "agency"? Around here all of the agencies are ripoffs. On top of that you pay three times the price for the same hos.
Shopping is half the fun.[/QUOTE]Have you tried Florida Executive Service? Over on TER they are highly rated. I'm from NYC and there the SWs were really bad looking while the agencies had model material. So coming here I prefer getting an agency as for price to each his own. I mean how can you put a price on a person. I know escorts that make a killing in this business some that make a grand an hour they are exclusive to upper class men. In NY there was a bar called The Oak Room, all Wall Street executives went there I mean a glass of coke was like 10 dollars, anyway some of the ladies there that looked like they came right out of a men's magazine would charge 1k per hour and get it.
I love this hobby but I do respect the TRUE ladies out there. As for ripoffs that happens with SWs too. Get your cash and give you half ass service
Anyone here remember an old agency that recently shut down called Girls Next Door? I heard they had good quality girls. So if I find a good agency that has excellent girls I rather choose them. I save on gas. LOL. And no LEOs so it works for me.