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Htcoi
Checked it tonight with some buddies. Ended up having vip with an ok blonde, payton (sp? ). I regret it. Asked for fs and was told she normally charged $5. But since eco was bad she'd do it for $2. 20. Tried haggling to $2 but she wouldn't budge. Buddies wanted to leave so I went ahead with her anyway. She wanted cash first, but I told her after. She kept insisting it first and then she wanted it on the seat where she could see it so I said fine. 1st song starts and she takes forever to take her shoes off. That annoyed me and I knew it was gonna be trouble. Gives me a dance all through to the mid of the 2nd song where she finally gets ready. Pulls out a jimmy and tells me to put it on. Didn't start the deed till the third song when before I knew it the song was over. She wanted. 5 for another song but I refused. Damn be opened the curtain before I could get my joe boxers back on, said, "sorry song is over I have no choice but to open the curtain. " f'n b. Stay away from her. Hope you guys have had better exp.
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Payton "Outing"
That really sucks! I know exactly how you feel and it ruins the day. Thanks for "outing" Payton. I wonder if she's the same Payton that works at DVCOI sometimes. I'd heard she was a ROB as well.
It sounds like you did everything right but just chose the wrong horse. About the only other thing I could say is when it seems too difficult. Just move on. I know that's easier said than done when you've already committed to a dance.
My theory is when a dancer is overly paranoid about getting paid it's because she's going to rip you off. The deal is they perform THEN get paid. Any other arrangement puts the PL at a big disadvantage and one should just walk out.
I don't know if you're familiar with zbone.com. It would be great to have your story posted on that board as well. Many more seem to read that board than the usasex forum.
Hobbyguy
[QUOTE=Jack Slater]Checked it tonight with some buddies. Ended up having vip with an ok blonde, payton (sp? ). I regret it. Asked for fs and was told she normally charged $5. But since eco was bad she'd do it for $2. 20. Tried haggling to $2 but she wouldn't budge. Buddies wanted to leave so I went ahead with her anyway. She wanted cash first, but I told her after. She kept insisting it first and then she wanted it on the seat where she could see it so I said fine. 1st song starts and she takes forever to take her shoes off. That annoyed me and I knew it was gonna be trouble. Gives me a dance all through to the mid of the 2nd song where she finally gets ready. Pulls out a jimmy and tells me to put it on. Didn't start the deed till the third song when before I knew it the song was over. She wanted. 5 for another song but I refused. Damn be opened the curtain before I could get my joe boxers back on, said, "sorry song is over I have no choice but to open the curtain. " f'n b. Stay away from her. Hope you guys have had better exp.
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Need to haggle more
[QUOTE=Jack Slater]Checked it tonight with some buddies. Ended up having vip with an ok blonde, payton (sp? ). I regret it. Asked for fs and was told she normally charged $5. But since eco was bad she'd do it for $2. 20. Tried haggling to $2 but she wouldn't budge. Buddies wanted to leave so I went ahead with her anyway. She wanted cash first, but I told her after. She kept insisting it first and then she wanted it on the seat where she could see it so I said fine. 1st song starts and she takes forever to take her shoes off. That annoyed me and I knew it was gonna be trouble. Gives me a dance all through to the mid of the 2nd song where she finally gets ready. Pulls out a jimmy and tells me to put it on. Didn't start the deed till the third song when before I knew it the song was over. She wanted. 5 for another song but I refused. Damn be opened the curtain before I could get my joe boxers back on, said, "sorry song is over I have no choice but to open the curtain. " f'n b. Stay away from her. Hope you guys have had better exp.
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I know the feeling but I had an OK experience not great. I talked this chick down to $1.5. But she got into it pretty fast with CBJ and then K9 because she had a nice ass. She told me to keep the jimmy on until I went to the bathroom. Just the whole set up stinks.
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[QUOTE=Courtrat]I know the feeling but I had an OK experience not great. I talked this chick down to $1. 5. But she got into it pretty fast with CBJ and then K9 because she had a nice ass. She told me to keep the jimmy on until I went to the bathroom. Just the whole set up stinks.[/QUOTE]Yeah tell me about it. You guys are probably gonna kill me when you hear this but I actually had one of the girls last night offer everything for just $1. 20. I passed because I wanted to check out everyone first. I was in a rush and didn't see her at the end of the night, and since my friends wanted to leave I had just picked the other girl. I knew I should have just gotten more regular dances and used the rest on resident evil 5. LOL
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[QUOTE=Jack Slater]Checked it tonight with some buddies. Ended up having vip with an ok blonde, payton (sp? ). I regret it. Asked for fs and was told she normally charged $5. But since eco was bad she'd do it for $2. 20. Tried haggling to $2 but she wouldn't budge. Buddies wanted to leave so I went ahead with her anyway. She wanted cash first, but I told her after. She kept insisting it first and then she wanted it on the seat where she could see it so I said fine. 1st song starts and she takes forever to take her shoes off. That annoyed me and I knew it was gonna be trouble. Gives me a dance all through to the mid of the 2nd song where she finally gets ready. Pulls out a jimmy and tells me to put it on. Didn't start the deed till the third song when before I knew it the song was over. She wanted. 5 for another song but I refused. Damn be opened the curtain before I could get my joe boxers back on, said, "sorry song is over I have no choice but to open the curtain. " f'n b. Stay away from her. Hope you guys have had better exp.
Later[/QUOTE]Woh. What a bad trip.
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[QUOTE=Courtrat]I know the feeling but I had an OK experience not great. I talked this chick down to $1.5. But she got into it pretty fast with CBJ and then K9 because she had a nice ass. She told me to keep the jimmy on until I went to the bathroom. Just the whole set up stinks.[/QUOTE]Same girl?
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Payton DVCOI = Payton HT
Yep, same Payton. I never tried her out since she was too skinny for me (and sometimes she doesn't shave her legs, eek), thanks for taking one for the team and outing her out.
[QUOTE=Hobbyguy10]That really sucks! I know exactly how you feel and it ruins the day. Thanks for "outing" Payton. I wonder if she's the same Payton that works at DVCOI sometimes. I'd heard she was a ROB as well.
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COI trip
Couple of weeks decided to take a quick Sunday trip to my favorite spot in COI, I usually hit up paradise showgirls, but don't see much postings about the place here. The spot is one of my favorites due to the contact girls allow and in some instances the menu and jobs I've gotten. Well this time for a Sunday (which is usually when the medium to ugly chicks work but really get a good bang for your buck or even get lucky) not a lot of talent. Not a single 8, about 7 girls dancing, bunch of 7's and fat ones. Took a couple dances from the only girl I found hot, and then this other girl sat next to me and kept pushing for me to buy a drink. F off lady! Why spend on drinks when I can invest in a dance and we both have fun, go drink water! So dissapointed I left the spot and decided to look up directions to HT. Thanks for all the ones that have posted! I go in, place is cold as hell! I order a water, sit down. And I guess it was time for the next shift to come in. Got a couple $20 dances, lots of good contact, but was not digging that the couches are up in the open and pretty much everyone can see you. Talent on the floor was way better, quite a bit of 8's. All of the sudden Nadia (blonde, huge tits and ass) approaches me for a dance, I accept a normal topless, but I was really curious about the VIP, so she quotes 120, decide to hold off but since she did a great job on the dance, I decided to go for it. Once inside, she immediately takes out my thing, straps on a jimmy, and whispers in my ear what the menu was: 100jh, 200bj, 300fs. I was like daaaam woman, your prices will break me in this harsh economy! But at this point with all the grinding, I was at a point of no return I haggled the price a little and got it down to $160 for the Cbj, strips down ties the curtain with her paties and goes to work. The best BJ I have ever gotten in my life. And trust me, I lived in asia, europe and s. America, and have really tapped anything that moved, paid and free play. She can really suck like her life depended on it. Cleans me up, chat a bit and then, with a huge pain in my wallet decide to take off, but extemely happy. She gave me a pass to come back for free and said that if I become a regular. I get 50% off the prices. Not bad. Sometimes you have to pay to play, its just a US thing I guess.
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Mileage @ DVCOI
How's the mileage @ the Vu been lately? Anyone have any good TRs?
Went there last week, all I had was the chance to get a few dances from some nameless girls. One of the girls I danced with was named Entice. She was stoned out of her mind and hence, didn't notice/mind my hand treating her like a bowling ball in the .10 timed booths. Didn't take anyone to the VIP and I was wondering if Mileage can still be had.
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HT Nadia
[QUOTE=Caaznlvr]Couple of weeks decided to take a quick Sunday trip to my favorite spot in COI, I usually hit up paradise showgirls, but don't see much postings about the place here. The spot is one of my favorites due to the contact girls allow and in some instances the menu and jobs I've gotten. Well this time for a Sunday (which is usually when the medium to ugly chicks work but really get a good bang for your buck or even get lucky) not a lot of talent. Not a single 8, about 7 girls dancing, bunch of 7's and fat ones. Took a couple dances from the only girl I found hot, and then this other girl sat next to me and kept pushing for me to buy a drink. F off lady! Why spend on drinks when I can invest in a dance and we both have fun, go drink water! So dissapointed I left the spot and decided to look up directions to HT. Thanks for all the ones that have posted! I go in, place is cold as hell! I order a water, sit down. And I guess it was time for the next shift to come in. Got a couple $20 dances, lots of good contact, but was not digging that the couches are up in the open and pretty much everyone can see you. Talent on the floor was way better, quite a bit of 8's. All of the sudden Nadia (blonde, huge tits and ass) approaches me for a dance, I accept a normal topless, but I was really curious about the VIP, so she quotes 120, decide to hold off but since she did a great job on the dance, I decided to go for it. Once inside, she immediately takes out my thing, straps on a jimmy, and whispers in my ear what the menu was: 100jh, 200bj, 300fs. I was like daaaam woman, your prices will break me in this harsh economy! But at this point with all the grinding, I was at a point of no return I haggled the price a little and got it down to $160 for the Cbj, strips down ties the curtain with her paties and goes to work. The best BJ I have ever gotten in my life. And trust me, I lived in asia, europe and s. America, and have really tapped anything that moved, paid and free play. She can really suck like her life depended on it. Cleans me up, chat a bit and then, with a huge pain in my wallet decide to take off, but extemely happy. She gave me a pass to come back for free and said that if I become a regular. I get 50% off the prices. Not bad. Sometimes you have to pay to play, its just a US thing I guess.[/QUOTE]Those prices are standard for her, just make sure it's not on top of the house fee!
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Dude. Glad you had fun but.
Make sure you get them to give you the rate before they close the curtains.
We all have gotten hosed once in our lives.
[QUOTE=Caaznlvr]Couple of weeks decided to take a quick Sunday trip to my favorite spot in COI, I usually hit up paradise showgirls, but don't see much postings about the place here. The spot is one of my favorites due to the contact girls allow and in some instances the menu and jobs I've gotten. Well this time for a Sunday (which is usually when the medium to ugly chicks work but really get a good bang for your buck or even get lucky) not a lot of talent. Not a single 8, about 7 girls dancing, bunch of 7's and fat ones. Took a couple dances from the only girl I found hot, and then this other girl sat next to me and kept pushing for me to buy a drink. F off lady! Why spend on drinks when I can invest in a dance and we both have fun, go drink water! So dissapointed I left the spot and decided to look up directions to HT. Thanks for all the ones that have posted! I go in, place is cold as hell! I order a water, sit down. And I guess it was time for the next shift to come in. Got a couple $20 dances, lots of good contact, but was not digging that the couches are up in the open and pretty much everyone can see you. Talent on the floor was way better, quite a bit of 8's. All of the sudden Nadia (blonde, huge tits and ass) approaches me for a dance, I accept a normal topless, but I was really curious about the VIP, so she quotes 120, decide to hold off but since she did a great job on the dance, I decided to go for it. Once inside, she immediately takes out my thing, straps on a jimmy, and whispers in my ear what the menu was: 100jh, 200bj, 300fs. I was like daaaam woman, your prices will break me in this harsh economy! But at this point with all the grinding, I was at a point of no return I haggled the price a little and got it down to $160 for the Cbj, strips down ties the curtain with her paties and goes to work. The best BJ I have ever gotten in my life. And trust me, I lived in asia, europe and s. America, and have really tapped anything that moved, paid and free play. She can really suck like her life depended on it. Cleans me up, chat a bit and then, with a huge pain in my wallet decide to take off, but extemely happy. She gave me a pass to come back for free and said that if I become a regular. I get 50% off the prices. Not bad. Sometimes you have to pay to play, its just a US thing I guess.[/QUOTE]
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Wet Blanket Alert
I love reports as much as anyone, but let's just throw down a few facts here.
USASG as a whole is mostly for street girls and escorts. Those girls can hide, move, walk away, change their names.
When you talk about strip clubs, it's not the same thing. You're endangering everyone's future fun, because the brick and mortar can't get up and walk away.
Worse, when you name a girl by dancer name, you're endangering everyone's fun that much more, not to mention endangering her much more than you endanger some girl on a corner or on Craig's List.
The girls mentioned on this page provide good experiences for all of us, even the girl who's been complained about. When you name them by name, sure, you provide a little voyeuristic thrill, woohoo. But you're also shooting all of us in the foot by putting the heat on them by name. For those of us who want to do this next year, the year after, and right up until the stadium comes and they finally clean out the COI, it's really best to back off on the details so that things don't go all paddy wagon on us.
No, it's no secret to LE what goes on. But actions against the SC world might drop to being less of a priority than other LE tasks if it isn't talked about as much. And yes, they read this board. There are vice guys who have it as a small, boring part of their job descriptions. (Hey there Leo, how you doin'?)
I've tried to say this as respectfully as possible.
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Wet blanket
Hey Velcro, can you please pm me any recommendations for dvcoi since you don't wanna be overt? Thanks.
I tend to agree with you for the most part, but reading this forum is what gave me just enough info to get started in this hobby. I understand we need to be discriminating and that's why I try to only out the robs. But info on good dancers is always appreciated.
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Velcro, sir.
I appreciate your caution but I think it's a little misplaced. Or maybe it's just an argument for shutting down this board entirely. I don't buy the distinction between someone saying they got a great blow job from a lady on the street or a lady in a club. Yes, the club can't move as easily to a new location but it's a LOT easier for law enforcement to bust a street girl or to at least hassle her into moving on than it is to build a case against a club.
If I'm LE and I read on a board that the hooker in the green dress at a certain street corner gives great head, I can call a squad car to go out there right now, find her and make her life miserable. The mere fact that she's out there proves half the case against her. I can certainly find a reason to bust her or to tell her that if she's ever seen around there again, I will bust her.
By contrast, if I read here that someone went to a certain club and got laid, I have to first of all decide if I want to get into a pissing war with that club and its lawyers. One of the reasons some ladies prefer to turn tricks in a strip club instead of on the street is they figure (sometimes wrongly) that the club can afford lawyers and the club will protect them. Then if I still decide to act on what I read, I probably have to send an undercover guy in to get solicited and those kinds of busts usually get tossed out of court as entrapment plus they bring a lot of grief from the community. Most "decent citizens" don't give a shit if someone gets a blow job in the back room of a strip club but they do care, as you might, if someone was turning tricks on their front lawn or where they shop.
My experience is that law enforcement is hundreds of times more interested in those street girls than they are in strippers. As you admit, they know that some guys get laid in strip clubs and they don't do a thing about it. They also know that some guys come on forums like this and lie their asses off about what happens in the V. I. P. Lounges.
We've had guys on this board post photos of themselves getting sucked off by street girls. Have any of those girls been busted? Have those photos been entered into evidence? Until that happens, I suggest that some anonymous guy claiming he fucked Jasmine in the V. I. P. Is a pretty minor tip-off to the cops that that kind of thing happens.
By the way, a stripper I used to know used to go on boards like this under another name and post messages under a guy's name saying that he went to a certain strip club and a certain stripper fucked him for free in the back room. The stripper she named was herself. She really wasn't screwing around in the back room. The club wouldn't allow it. But it got her a lot of business. And no hassle from the law.
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Still not such a convincing argument for going against the wisdom of 'when in doubt leave it out.'