Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=kimcheeboy]Where's the aloha? The guy asked a simple question. No need to jump on him.

To answer him, you're best bet is to hit an AMP (lots reviewed here). Expect to pay between $1.6 and $2.0 for FS (.4-.5 for house, 1.2-1.5 for the girl).[/QUOTE]

Kimcheeboy,

Point well taken, although I think he's just looking for a massage with release, since this is the massage thread. Being new in town, the easiest place to find would probably be Island Massage in Century Center. If you do go to an AMP, don't expect much of massage and many of the younger girls will give you some flak when you ask for a hj only. They want the $1.5 for the fs.

AT2

Agreed.

I also think Carol at IM (thought she asks $1.2, where most others are just $1) is one of the best bets for a good legit with release.

Also, you might want to consider Jean, as you've seen here, the opinion on her is that she does an excellent job at both.

Or, you might try Kim/Kimberly or Nana (if you like really deep massage) at Ohana.

[QUOTE=kimcheeboy]Where's the aloha? The guy asked a simple question. No need to jump on him.

To answer him, you're best bet is to hit an AMP (lots reviewed here). Expect to pay between $1.6 and $2.0 for FS (.4-.5 for house, 1.2-1.5 for the girl).[/QUOTE]
I've got a lot of ALOHA!

There is some much info on this thread, I do not think it's asking too much to read the thread if you only have single digit reports. I do not think my report was jumping on him.
But, if you want to reply to everyone that has single digit reports asking where to get a massage, etc... more power to you.

So, where can I get a good massage? How much does the massage cost? Where can I get a cheap beer? How much does the beer cost?

[QUOTE=Tiantain]I've got a lot of ALOHA!

There is some much info on this thread, I do not think it's asking too much to read the thread if you only have single digit reports. I do not think my report was jumping on him.

But, if you want to reply to everyone that has single digit reports asking where to get a massage, etc... more power to you.

So, where can I get a good massage? How much does the massage cost? Where can I get a cheap beer? How much does the beer cost?[/QUOTE]A good massage can be had at many places on Oahu, this site has a wealth of information and being the seasoned vet you are there should not be too much difficulty in researching it. Just put a little effort into it. There's free publications, telephone book etc.

There will be a nominal fee.

You can find cheap beers at any number of kb's between the hours of 4 - 7.

Beer will cost you a couple of bucks.

Should you need a travel guide for the island of Oahu let me know.

[QUOTE=kimcheeboy]Where's the aloha? The guy asked a simple question. No need to jump on him.
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TT just is expressing what a lot of significant contributors and Senior Members feel(including myself). NooB's jumping on the board without contributing and asking questions that have already been answered in prior posts. You have to EARN respect brah. Seems every so often there are a bunch of one-post fools who just post questions without contributing anything of any significance which defeats the purpose of having a forum like this. What pisses me off is that people are too lazy to go back and RTFF expecting other members to hand them info on a silver platter.

Back to the topic at hand, visited Kelly from Pro Massage for the third time but no extras. At least the massage is okay and she takes the full hour. I would really have liked to try her out on that bed though but from all indications and past posts, she is strictly legit.

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]TT just is expressing what a lot of significant contributors and Senior Members feel(including myself). NooB's jumping on the board without contributing and asking questions that have already been answered in prior posts. You have to EARN respect brah. Seems every so often there are a bunch of one-post fools who just post questions without contributing anything of any significance which defeats the purpose of having a forum like this. What pisses me off is that people are too lazy to go back and RTFF expecting other members to hand them info on a silver platter.

Back to the topic at hand, visited Kelly from Pro Massage for the third time but no extras. At least the massage is okay and she takes the full hour. I would really have liked to try her out on that bed though but from all indications and past posts, she is strictly legit.[/QUOTE]General rules of the forum below. There is no dialogue about EARNING respect, braddha. I would welcome noobies to ask questions, as a forum member (senior or newbie), you can a) reply or b) not reply. KCB simply stated, hey why jump on the guy, if your going to reply simply answer his question.

By the way, avoid at costs possible Deja and Lyla, as advertised on CL and Bailee from Volcano girls. Simply a horrible experience.

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Lex would like to weigh in on this issue of FNG's and their silly posts.

Imagine if this were a forum about wine and you had veteran forum members who wanted to raise the level of discussion a bit. Then imagine a new guy comes on and wants to know where they can get a bottle of cheap Italian wine, how much it will cost, what kind of bag it comes in, etc. What kind of reception would he get?

It's analogous to the situation here. A new guy has to take his licks like we did. He has to spend some money learning the hobby, contribute, etc. before he's going to get any respect.

Just my opinion.

Lex

Thought I'd weigh in on the Noob subject. My number of posts may not indicate how often I visit this forum, but I truly appreciate the info garnered here. You guys have not only saved me some $, but guided me towards a much more "fullfilling" experience. If I posted all of those encounters, it would be somewhat repetetive, thus the low # of posts. So perhaps, as fellow hobbyists, give the guy a break! After all we are on the same "team"! Much mahalo to all who post regularly, if I met any of you in a bar, a drink or two on me would certainly be in order. (just not champagne)

[QUOTE=LexLuther]Lex would like to weigh in on this issue of FNG's and their silly posts.

Imagine if this were a forum about wine and you had veteran forum members who wanted to raise the level of discussion a bit. Then imagine a new guy comes on and wants to know where they can get a bottle of cheap Italian wine, how much it will cost, what kind of bag it comes in, etc. What kind of reception would he get?

It's analogous to the situation here. A new guy has to take his licks like we did. He has to spend some money learning the hobby, contribute, etc. before he's going to get any respect.

Lex[/QUOTE]You have a point, Lex. Keep in mind, though, that this is a public forum, open to anyone. Also, the original poster stated he was visiting...I think he should be cut a little slack. If you read the first couple of pages in this thread there really isn't that much information about what the guy was seeking.

Now, you or any other senior member can lay into me because I don't post much here, but that doesn't mean I have any less experience or knowledge about the hobby scene than you do. Fact is, I rarely read this forum because the level of information is pretty low (sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone). I would guess that I probably know as much about the hobby scene as anyone who posts here.

Anyway, this is just my opinon, but if you're rude to new posters, they are not very likely to post again and contribute. Happy hobbying.

Earning respect is hardly ever stated in any dialogue of rules. It should be unspoken and is part of any society or community. This virtual community is no exception. Nothing is ever "free" even if it does not cost any money. I would say that most members post because they want to help others who help others. They want a return on their investment too, not just a free lunch. Speaking of free lunch, just imagine a pot luck where everyone brings something to the table. There may be times where some of the participants don't bring any food, and that is OK; they brought stuff before. There are other times when invited guests also do not bring food, and that is OK too; they are welcome due to some affiliation with the group, but when someone off the street comes by and just tries to take food and ask why there is no more steak, that is not OK. Now, just imagine this guy coming to all your potlucks without bringing anything to the table. I know I get pissed at that.

$.02

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Here is my take.

When you first join a board, you are for all intents and purposes, a guest. As such, you are also under scrutiny by longtime members. One of the cardinal sins of any newbie is to ask a question that has been answered time and time again. The answers are readily available if they do a search and if they say something like, "I searched and have narrowed it down to ..." it wouldn't be so bad. However, when they just ask "where's the best place for ..." they will get reamed on 9 out of 10 boards.

The problem is not lack of Aloha or respect, it is that people are tired of being asked the same questions over and over.

[QUOTE=kimcheeboy]
Now, you or any other senior member can lay into me because I don't post much here, but that doesn't mean I have any less experience or knowledge about the hobby scene than you do. Fact is, I rarely read this forum because the level of information is pretty low (sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone). I would guess that I probably know as much about the hobby scene as anyone who posts here.
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The reason for the lack of content is not lack of knowledge, but lack of any real sharing. Most members tend to throw a bone, when they are seeking info, but do not give out their real gems. They have far more knowledge than they generally share due to selfish reasons. Not trying to slam members. It's human nature to share a bit and hide what you treasure. Especially when the supply is limited. Compare that to the BKK threads, where supply exceeds demand and there are thousands of posts.

Then there are the leeches who just want, want, want and never give. Or lurkers, who sit in the background just reading, but never contributing. That turns off other members who know alot, but just can't stand feeding them when they don't give back, so they keep the info and just PM those they like.

There's also the fact that Hawaii is also fairly simple to learn. There are only so many KB's, VB's, escorts, AMP's before you find yourself doing the same old thing.

Then you get off the rock!

AT2

[QUOTE=John Ross]Here is my take.

When you first join a board, you are for all intents and purposes, a guest. As such, you are also under scrutiny by longtime members. One of the cardinal sins of any newbie is to ask a question that has been answered time and time again. The answers are readily available if they do a search and if they say something like, "I searched and have narrowed it down to ..." it wouldn't be so bad. However, when they just ask "where's the best place for ..." they will get reamed on 9 out of 10 boards.

The problem is not lack of Aloha or respect, it is that people are tired of being asked the same questions over and over.[/QUOTE]I think you and some others need to get laid more often. ;-)

The question the guy originally asked is not one I've seen in this particular thread (I only went back 5 pages or so). Most of the info in this thread is at least a few months old. As you know, old information about the hobby is unreliable. IM has a pretty high turnover rate, so does JJ spa.

As someone said earlier, if you don't want to share the info with a newbie, you can just ignore him. No need to rip into the guy. Make him feel welcome into the brotherhood of hobbyists. If he gets treated right, he may become a regular poster. If he isn't, no way is he going to share info and post anything.
And if you think he deserved to be reamed, then you have no idea what "aloha" is about.

And for the record, I am a longtime member of this board (probably longer than all of the senior members who don't like the idea of a newbie asking questions, at least a year longer than you, John). I used to be an active poster under a different handle. I stopped posting not because I no longer wanted to share the information I had, but rather because I got tired of the lack of respect people showed for each other. It wasn't any fun to read the board.

If you want to continue to berate new members who show up, you can choose to do so, I suppose (I know that you didn't do that in this case). But you can also ask yourself, is the board as good a source of information as I would like?

I've been around a lot longer than John Ross has, too. I did not berate anyone, just explaining the reasoning behind some of the curt replies. I think newbies should try and do a search on this board before posting where can I find ... Another reason why people are curt is that this sort of post is rather overt and lots of hobbyists prefer to be covert to stay away from LEOs.

As for getting laid, I do that quite frequently as I do have a girlfriend. That is why I haven't been hanging at KBs and VBs too much these days. Loose lips sinks ships and those bar girls talk alot!

[QUOTE=John Ross]I've been around a lot longer than John Ross has, too. I did not berate anyone, just explaining the reasoning behind some of the curt replies. I think newbies should try and do a search on this board before posting where can I find ... Another reason why people are curt is that this sort of post is rather overt and lots of hobbyists prefer to be covert to stay away from LEOs.

As for getting laid, I do that quite frequently as I do have a girlfriend. That is why I haven't been hanging at KBs and VBs too much these days. Loose lips sinks ships and those bar girls talk alot![/QUOTE]
Huh? Aren't you John Ross? Or is there another John Ross thats a member? I'm confused.