Philly Sugar

I see your point.

Getting the number is not that difficult. It's managing those. If you are not able to meet them within say 1-2 weeks, most of them will ghost. And I wonder how you managed seeing 11 new within a month. Given an average 250-300, and meeting someone new every 2-3 days, I am guessing you did shell out about at least 3 k in that month I wonder what age group and type were those?

[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4602511]I use ExpressVPN but many are available. So its not a plug for that company. Remember an IP address is your fingerprint. Regarding SB if you read one of my post in another forum it is my opinion that it is one the biggest rip off sites out there. I have used it twice and will never return. Yes I know everybody hates Wade and his SA / WYP sites but SA is the only game for me. Any credit based site has less girls and never a good value. At least with SA I pay the house 3 bucks a day to message every girl on there if I want. SB is loaded with Fembots that do not really exist. You sit on you hands waiting before you spend credits on someone that might be fake or not work out. With SA you can carpet bomb every girl that you might be interested in with messages. I join for a month, fill up my dial-a-ho directory and take a break. I did my 30 days to catch the girls home on Holiday break and returning to school after. In 30 days I got 48 phone numbers and was able to fuck 11 new ones. I will try to work the rest of the numbers when my membership expires and I take a break for a while.[/QUOTE]

Yes I broke the bank this month. I spend honestly 150-300 (which is normal for the STL area) each with the average about 200-250. Some months when I have an active membership I can go through 2000-2500 a month. I don't pay for M&G, coffee / diner dates or shopping sprees. They all come to my house. So all funds go directly towards the pussy. Of course this tapers off after I just live off the numbers I collected. Many of these girls I decide not to see again so it was just a one time thing. You do have to strike when the iron is hot on many, but some are out of town or at school so I catch them when they return. Sometimes the ones that I wouldn't pay their price will text me weeks / months later when times are tough saying well what are you comfortable with? I cast a wide net so this month the age range was 18-37. The oldest was listed as 32 but I found out her real age after we met. At my age I can't do 2 a day or every day, so when I am active on there probably 3 a week is about my average. I am broke and exhausted, but with a big smile on my face.

[QUOTE=Apothecary;4613666]I see your point.

Getting the number is not that difficult. It's managing those. If you are not able to meet them within say 1-2 weeks, most of them will ghost. And I wonder how you managed seeing 11 new within a month. Given an average 250-300, and meeting someone new every 2-3 days, I am guessing you did shell out about at least 3 k in that month I wonder what age group and type were those?[/QUOTE]

Getting tired of poor experiences in escort scene and thinking of transitioning to SA. Great forum very informative and just had a few questions for more experienced SA users.

Married and in professional world, so hesitant to give pictures or credit card. Are picture necessary for success on site? (Decently attractive, more concerned they get in wrong hands). Looks like some using visa gift cards, can you typically just buy at local target type store and they work internationally as site requires?

Can't host locally, do you find many on SA will host after a positive m&g off-site? Not a huge fan of car dates.

I see Lots of people getting banned. How do you make it clear you do not just want platonic while not going too far and being banned?

She is on the pricier end of the scale at 4. 5 with no travels to Greece, however it appears no translator is required but no cip based on my conversations with her. I have no taken the chance yet, but to those that have is she that thin in real life? The pics she sent me she is awfully thin?

Thanks and Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BuffBill75;4611308]I might see her next week. Can I ask what the damage was?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b39a1554-36a7-42d3-b09a-95a2b4baa1c0[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaveHebner;4614177]Getting tired of poor experiences in escort scene and thinking of transitioning to SA. Great forum very informative and just had a few questions for more experienced SA users.

Married and in professional world, so hesitant to give pictures or credit card. Are picture necessary for success on site? (Decently attractive, more concerned they get in wrong hands). Looks like some using visa gift cards, can you typically just buy at local target type store and they work internationally as site requires?

Can't host locally, do you find many on SA will host after a positive m&g off-site? Not a huge fan of car dates.

I see Lots of people getting banned. How do you make it clear you do not just want platonic while not going too far and being banned?[/QUOTE]I believe you need a picture to be able to do some stuff on the site? I forget, its been a while since I was premium. But I just took a picture of myself, blurred out the face and stripped it of all potentially identifying info, and used that with no problem (I'm in decent shape though, and dress well IMO). Also for the picture make sure its one you're not using anywhere else. Even with blurring and modification, it might be possible for people to reverse image search it and link it to you.

I believe you can use anonymous credit cards to pay for it. There are some out there. I believe the ones you get from like Target and such do require you to register your personal info though, so they aren't completely anon. Not sure though.

Almost NO SBs on SA will host. They're either living w / family or roommates, and doing this for extra money, so they aren't usually in a place financially where they have a private place to host. So factor hotels into your costs. Car dates are not really a good idea, you're going to look stingy or poor, either way not what a SB is looking for, not to mention WTF are you going to do for a several hour date in a car? Also I'm single, and not super old, so discretion isn't as important for me, but if you're meeting up in public places, people you might know might see you around.

Regarding avoiding platonic, you can make it clear in your profile (without being explicit and getting banned) that you're looking for something less platonic, more physical. You can also read people's profiles to see what they're looking for. Some will straight up say platonic, others won't but it will be clear from what they say. Also when you talk to them, you can ask them what they're looking for, why they joined the site to get an idea what they want. You can also make it clear in your messages that you're looking for fwb, nsa, hookup buddy, whatever term that connotes non-platonic. Then try to move them off the site and onto texting where you can speak more openly without getting banned.

Note that most SBs do NOT want to think of themselves as sex workers. They think what they're doing is something different, more elegant, enhanced dating, whatever, even though it really isn't. If you treat them like that (cut too much to the chase, make it too direct about $$ for intimacy, whatever) many will reject you. This is another reason why the whole car date thing is a terrible idea, its going to make them think you think of them as just a random streetwalker, and that won't work. The exception are pros and semipros on the site, but those are the people you said you're trying to avoid by going into sugaring anyways.

Lots of questions. But lots of answers in these forums. Start reading them in all cities. Thats how I learned a lot. The more you have to lose / risk in your lyfe the less SA makes the best sense as an option. Your going to have to take more risks and exposure (to make it really pay off and get your moneys worth out of it) than meeting a high end pro discretely at a 5 star hotel for an hour.

[QUOTE=DaveHebner;4614177]Getting tired of poor experiences in escort scene and thinking of transitioning to SA. Great forum very informative and just had a few questions for more experienced SA users.

Married and in professional world, so hesitant to give pictures or credit card. Are picture necessary for success on site? (Decently attractive, more concerned they get in wrong hands). Looks like some using visa gift cards, can you typically just buy at local target type store and they work internationally as site requires?

Can't host locally, do you find many on SA will host after a positive m&g off-site? Not a huge fan of car dates.

I see Lots of people getting banned. How do you make it clear you do not just want platonic while not going too far and being banned?[/QUOTE]

I'm married and been on seeking for about six years. I would add never give these women any personal info about yourself. I always use a fake name, and I use a texting app. TextFree is one. There are some sugar babies that can host, they are just hard to find. One was a college student in Gettysburg and she was cool with using her dorm. When I find these chicks it is such a bonus because I generally hate hotel rooms.

Anyway, don't be lazy on your profile. Fill it out because I think they do read them. Good advice on the photo. Not a bad idea to have some private photos, but most women will at least want to see your face.

Be genuine. And if you're cool, you may just get some free pussy. This past weekend I banged a 21 year old Romanian chick from the site, and all I bought her was gelato. That does happen if you have some game.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;4614777]I believe you need a picture to be able to do some stuff on the site? I forget, its been a while since I was premium. But I just took a picture of myself, blurred out the face and stripped it of all potentially identifying info, and used that with no problem (I'm in decent shape though, and dress well IMO). Also for the picture make sure its one you're not using anywhere else. Even with blurring and modification, it might be possible for people to reverse image search it and link it to you.

I believe you can use anonymous credit cards to pay for it. There are some out there. I believe the ones you get from like Target and such do require you to register your personal info though, so they aren't completely anon. Not sure though.

Almost NO SBs on SA will host. They're either living w / family or roommates, and doing this for extra money, so they aren't usually in a place financially where they have a private place to host. So factor hotels into your costs. Car dates are not really a good idea, you're going to look stingy or poor, either way not what a SB is looking for, not to mention WTF are you going to do for a several hour date in a car? Also I'm single, and not super old, so discretion isn't as important for me, but if you're meeting up in public places, people you might know might see you around.[/QUOTE]

Guys, thanks for all the great advice and answers to my questions. Appreciate you taking the time to pass on lessons learned and saving me from making similar mistakes. I'll dig in to other state forums as suggested and get to work on figuring out how to blur my personal pictures!

[QUOTE=DaveHebner;4615690]Guys, thanks for all the great advice and answers to my questions. Appreciate you taking the time to pass on lessons learned and saving me from making similar mistakes. I'll dig in to other state forums as suggested and get to work on figuring out how to blur my personal pictures![/QUOTE]Its not that hard to blur. You can legit just go to microsoft paint and scribble over your face with the paintbrush tool. I think there's straight up a blur feature in there too, not sure. Also strip exif data, and also make sure to scan the picture to make sure nothing identifying is showing (name tags, mirror showing reflection of your face, street signs and addresses, things that might make your profession obvious, etc.).

Regarding fake info, yeah definitely give fake names I think if you want to be discreet. Otherwise a simple google search will tell them who you are. Also same w/ phone numbers - use a burner phone app, or at least google voice or something.

The problem w/ hosting in a dorm is, do ya really want to be doing the walk of shame in front of a bunch of 18-22 year old kids as a 30-60+ year old man?

Gingersnapp23 about 3 hours ago.

"Hey, I want to be honest about what I want and need. I want it to be honest and loyal. I'm putting myself through college which isn't cheap so I am needy with money, I do ask for a $5 Venmo payment to show your good faith. My Venmo is at redacted. My last arrangement was a man that wanted pictures and eroctica stories. He would pay me $250 a week for endless pictures and stories and flirting with the occasional date night. He would also send me new toys and lingerie to try out and show off to him in videos. But, I'm up for anything but I wouldn't be able to meet up for a couple weeks because of my schooling. I am a 23 year old that loves going on trips to the mountains, drinking wine and enjoying each other's company".

Blocked, LOL.

Has anyone has the pleasure?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2f2cd2c5-a4e7-4205-bfad-97014fe864ac[/URL]

I will be curious.

[QUOTE=BuffBill75;4619084]Has anyone has the pleasure?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2f2cd2c5-a4e7-4205-bfad-97014fe864ac[/URL][/QUOTE]

Has anyone taken the plunge.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0c284e08-4d7d-4129-8104-405a21479946?[/URL]

[QUOTE=BuffBill75;4620894]Has anyone taken the plunge.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0c284e08-4d7d-4129-8104-405a21479946?[/URL][/QUOTE]Her profile says she's looking for platonic. Doesn't necessarily mean you can't convince her otherwise, but I usually don't bother in those situations to make the effort.

I had conversations with her but she indicated she wants to start off platonic yada yada yada so I didn't pursue any further or push her.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BuffBill75;4620894]Has anyone taken the plunge.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0c284e08-4d7d-4129-8104-405a21479946?[/URL][/QUOTE]