The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=Raltime;3388913]I know this girl, I met her when she was 18. I did an I'd check with her, I when out with her and her friend for dinner. Great M / G dinner which was a lot of fun. The next night she messages me needing money for her phone, yeah, right. She was unstable and need money for a fix. She got pissed when I wouldn't sent money that night. A week later she was in rehab. I believe she has been there a few times.

The good part is I when out with her better looking friend, who had another friend which were great dates with both of them.

My advice, move on with this one, she has demons, and not a SB.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the extra perspective. I will PM you with the humorous ending to this story.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3389634]Thanks for the extra perspective. I will PM you with the humorous ending to this story.[/QUOTE]Stormy PM me also as I've had some communication with her as well.

I messaged with her a few months ago but she disappeared after I shared my picture. Nice to know that I have a face even a junkie doesn't want!

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3389634]Thanks for the extra perspective. I will PM you with the humorous ending to this story.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen this girl?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4a382f7b-93da-457d-b7e7-bce438756b39[/URL]

I'm posting this experience here because there is no sugar discussion thread in Oregon or Portland. I wanted to see what other monger daddies thought of what happened to me last night. I've been seeing woman from SA for years, not new to the bowl, and have never been so sketched out.

Red flag 1: Her profile is over 2 years old, yet she is currently 19. [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06feb678-fac5-a515-e22c-b7b521e6f44e[/URL].

A profile with very hot pics 'favorited me' and after a few messages on SA we are texting. Her story is that her car got impounded yesterday and she needs money. She also said that her phone service is cut off and she can only text via a hotspot. She asked about allowance and I told her that I'm good for 200 if we play. She accepted. We agree to meet at 8:30 pm in front of a business that is open late into the evening. I'll pick her up and drive her back to my place.

She kept delaying the meet. Saying that she is doing her makeup, smoking weed, going to the bathroom, yada yada. Finally around 9 pm she is ready and I drive to the location. I arrive and park about 200' from the agreed upon business in an adjacent lot with view of the business entrance and parking lot. More delays from her.

Red flag 2: While waiting for her she continually asked for what my car make / color was, yet I told her to meet on the sidewalk in front of the business. Also, while waiting for her she asked for my photos again. I had shared my private pics with her on SA and I texted her the same pics hours ago. WTF?

Finally at about 10 pm she says that she walking over from the motel that is accross the street.

Reg flag 3: Why is a hot 19 yo in a motel on a Thursday night. I frequent the local provider boards and she is not a local ho, I would know.

I'm watching the lot and business front from my car, no girl has walked up, but a large white van with dark tinted windows pulls into the business' lot, parking across numerous parking spots. The passenger side and sliding doors open up but nobody gets out. 30 seconds after the van parked she texted me saying I'm here. I wait and watch for another minute or two. There is no girl in sight and still nobody has gotten out of the van. Too many negatives where adding up. I bolted.

Is the profile a punk kid fucking with people and the van was coincidence? Was it an LE set up? Is the profile attempting to rob guys in parking lots? Is the profile and girl real, just a super stoned girl? Am I just being paranoid?

Still scratching my head over this.

[QUOTE=HuksAlot;3396137]I'm posting this experience here because there is no sugar discussion thread in Oregon or Portland. I wanted to see what other monger daddies thought of what happened to me last night. I've been seeing woman from SA for years, not new to the bowl, and have never been so sketched out.

Red flag 1: Her profile is over 2 years old, yet she is currently 19. [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06feb678-fac5-a515-e22c-b7b521e6f44e[/URL].

A profile with very hot pics 'favorited me' and after a few messages on SA we are texting. Her story is that her car got impounded yesterday and she needs money. She also said that her phone service is cut off and she can only text via a hotspot. She asked about allowance and I told her that I'm good for 200 if we play. She accepted. We agree to meet at 8:30 pm in front of a business that is open late into the evening. I'll pick her up and drive her back to my place.

She kept delaying the meet. Saying that she is doing her makeup, smoking weed, going to the bathroom, yada yada. Finally around 9 pm she is ready and I drive to the location. I arrive and park about 200' from the agreed upon business in an adjacent lot with view of the business entrance and parking lot. More delays from her.

Red flag 2: While waiting for her she continually asked for what my car make / color was, yet I told her to meet on the sidewalk in front of the business. Also, while waiting for her she asked for my photos again. I had shared my private pics with her on SA and I texted her the same pics hours ago. WTF?

Finally at about 10 pm she says that she walking over from the motel that is accross the street.

Reg flag 3: Why is a hot 19 yo in a motel on a Thursday night. I frequent the local provider boards and she is not a local ho, I would know.

I'm watching the lot and business front from my car, no girl has walked up, but a large white van with dark tinted windows pulls into the business' lot, parking across numerous parking spots. The passenger side and sliding doors open up but nobody gets out. 30 seconds after the van parked she texted me saying I'm here. I wait and watch for another minute or two. There is no girl in sight and still nobody has gotten out of the van. Too many negatives where adding up. I bolted.

Is the profile a punk kid fucking with people and the van was coincidence? Was it an LE set up? Is the profile attempting to rob guys in parking lots? Is the profile and girl real, just a super stoned girl? Am I just being paranoid?

Still scratching my head over this.[/QUOTE]Don't offer her money "if we play" don't offer money off SA for anything other then their company. When you meet, then you can decide if you play or what takes place. They can't touch you unless you offer money for sex. Second, don' t go for girls so young. I know 18 is legal, but come on man. You're playing with fire. Girls look older and act older these days. No need to potentially ruin your life over an underage girl. I stick with 25 on up. That is plenty young enough and most 25 year olds have had more sexual encounters than I have, so there is no issues there. If you do decide to date that young, you best be making them bring a state ID and verify with absolutely certainty that it's real. And underage girl cannot give consent, so it don't matter if she lied, met you in a bar, or had a fake I'd. You're still going down if mom and dad find out, or she decided she didn't like you.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3396377]Don't offer her money "if we play" don't offer money off SA for anything other then their company. When you meet, then you can decide if you play or what takes place. They can't touch you unless you offer money for sex. Second, don' t go for girls so young. I know 18 is legal, but come on man. You're playing with fire. Girls look older and act older these days. No need to potentially ruin your life over an underage girl. I stick with 25 on up. That is plenty young enough and most 25 year olds have had more sexual encounters than I have, so there is no issues there. If you do decide to date that young, you best be making them bring a state ID and verify with absolutely certainty that it's real. And underage girl cannot give consent, so it don't matter if she lied, met you in a bar, or had a fake I'd. You're still going down if mom and dad find out, or she decided she didn't like you.[/QUOTE]I agree with DirtyDeeds. My only difference is age; my cutoff is 22 and when in doubt I do request state picture ID. I tell them they can redact their full name and address but I want to see everything else, especially DOB and expiration date. If they balk at supplying it, I just move on. I met a 24 y/o today and "carded" her before we left to go to the FC just to be safe. She laughed and told me I wasn't the first SD in the last few months.

That is something sketchy about your POT's age and length of time she's been on SA! I get the feeling you were being catfished and set up to be ripped off.

I recently learned that Hotwire is my new friend, especially in the Sugar Bowl arena. I've booked two rooms in the past couple of weeks using the red flame deal (Hot Rate) via the app on my iPad. Both time I paid approximately half price for two great rooms. This past week I selected a 3-star hotel near the airport for $72.00 plus taxes. Once I booked the room, I learned that it was Hilton Garden Inn Greensboro Airport and the room usually goes for $139.00 plus taxes per night. I have used other apps like [URL]Hotel.com[/URL], [URL]Priceline.com[/URL], Expedia, etc. But have seen the best deals with Hotwire. The Hilton Garden Inn Greensboro Airport room was as cheap as a lower scale rate near the airport. This may not work as well on the spur of the moment but will when prior planning is available.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Historically I have elected not to take a MILF (married but looking or open marriage) to the FC, primarily due to the vision of the SB's husband finding me in the sheets with his lovely spouse. However I would like to find a married POT and simply do a one and done to get it off my bucket list. Preferably white, slim or athletic and in the 25 to 32 age range. Post any opinions on why you also feel it is or is not a risky profile, meanwhile PM me if you have a suggested POT for me to check out. Thanks!

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3399797]Historically I have elected not to take a MILF (married but looking or open marriage) to the FC, primarily due to the vision of the SB's husband finding me in the sheets with his lovely spouse. However I would like to find a married POT and simply do a one and done to get it off my bucket list. Preferably white, slim or athletic and in the 25 to 32 age range. Post any opinions on why you also feel it is or is not a risky profile, meanwhile PM me if you have a suggested POT for me to check out. Thanks![/QUOTE]There are a lot of 32 -45 MILFs out there that are hot and a good time, don't cut yourself short.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3399797]Historically I have elected not to take a MILF (married but looking or open marriage) to the FC, primarily due to the vision of the SB's husband finding me in the sheets with his lovely spouse. However I would like to find a married POT and simply do a one and done to get it off my bucket list. Preferably white, slim or athletic and in the 25 to 32 age range. Post any opinions on why you also feel it is or is not a risky profile, meanwhile PM me if you have a suggested POT for me to check out. Thanks![/QUOTE]There are several hot married or separated women on that site right now (two of whom I'm trying to meet myself). Check them out and choose one to your liking, and don't let the girl know your room number if you're paranoid about that. Good luck!

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3399797]Historically I have elected not to take a MILF (married but looking or open marriage) to the FC, primarily due to the vision of the SB's husband finding me in the sheets with his lovely spouse. However I would like to find a married POT and simply do a one and done to get it off my bucket list. Preferably white, slim or athletic and in the 25 to 32 age range. Post any opinions on why you also feel it is or is not a risky profile, meanwhile PM me if you have a suggested POT for me to check out. Thanks![/QUOTE]I've done a few marrieds in my time, IDK that it's any different. My main problem is I have a SO, and so I had to figure out a way to book the room as UTR as possible. With single babies, I ask them to do it and then reimburse. What's the kink your looking for? Is it the married, or the MILF. The M just stands for mom. One of mine says her hubb works in security, and it became apparent that's for the Feds. If he gets wind, of course he can track down her emails, so I was very worried. Indeed, I never gave her the room # via electronic means, I just met her in the lobby. I didn't worry about her, just him.

[QUOTE=PigSpoon41;3371152]I was wondering the same thing.

I'm brand new to this game and feel like using WYP might be worth it. I've set up my profile to pretty much explain exactly what I'm looking for and expecting as opposed to just meeting together or a lunch or meal. I didn't spell out specifically what I want, but I worded it so that I'm basically looking for some fun between two consenting adults over a glass a of wine that might result in a pillow fight. I've received two offers so far, but I've never used the site, so I'm a little unsure of how it works. If anyone could PM me and fill me in with suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. How does it all work? If they send me an offer and I accept it, do I then have to pay credits to be able to chat?

Another question I wondered about was that I read where the WYP site advises to give 50% of the date donation in the beginning and the remainder at the end of the date. Are the ladies typically ok with that? I guess I just need some pointers on how to approach using that site. Does Uncle LEO use that site? Any help would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]With my experience of more than a year in SB, I would recommend it. But as in any other channel in this hobby, there are great, good, bad and ugly ones here too. We need to filter it out. I would say, you need to let our big head do a lot of work before small guy can enjoy it.

If the SB explicitly says "non sexual" in their profile, they might not be what you are looking for. But that is just a small % of the people there and you can just ignore them or if you are really interested, just reconfirm it in a non explicit way. I normally meet for a coffee after some private message. I try to meet them at a place closer to them. In most cases you will be able to filter out the scammers if you ask them for a coffee. Some won't even agree and some will ask for allowance for the M & G too. I normally block them. I don't discuss $$ in chat, but will do it at the end of M&G if I think I will proceed. 50% of the girls I met in person (M&G) was good to proceed. That is a very good count. I filter by an age group and ethnicity first and then look at the profile before agreeing to meet. That was more than I could affort. They were young, smart chicks giving real GFE experience.

Coming back to your question. I am not sure what you mean when you say you received offers. Did the agree to meet you or did they give you a $$ number for real date? I do not recommend going directly for a real date without a M&G as most legit SBs would prefer a M&G. Be careful about the ones who ask to meet in expensive restaurants for M & G. Starbucks is normally good place for a quick M & G.

Uncle LEO can be anywhere. Never forget your basics. No explicit discussion before you do M & G. No discussion on what you will do in relation to money. All of that should be after you get comfortable with the person. If it appears TGTT, it is not true. Move on. If you do it right and do your homework, it is a great place to find what you are looking for.

Has any of the seasoned SA members met Miss Stephanie. Made a contact. Sounded legit, but somehow I was not getting a good vibe.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed0c7b91-125f-14a4-783f-1819eddd3e78[/URL]

[QUOTE=MatinCary;3406552]Has any of the seasoned SA members met Miss Stephanie. Made a contact. Sounded legit, but somehow I was not getting a good vibe.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed0c7b91-125f-14a4-783f-1819eddd3e78[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, she is.