Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

Toftt in a different sense. I won't mention the provider name because she learnered her lesson. You ever have that bad odor kick in and wonder why she didn't shower before she saw you. I did and I had enough. After fucking her I took my cock out and told her to suck my dick. She started to take the cover off and I stopped her not because I enjoy CBJ but becaause I wanted her to taste her disgusting pussy smell. She was cringing and I asked how it tasted. She confessed not great so I told her to stop and made her take a shower with me. I told her that's what guys smell when you don't shower in between. Promised it would never happen again. Came back out bed her over in k9 and pounded her took off cover and sprayed her ass. She was getting in shower as I was leaving getting ready for the next one.

[QUOTE=Dsrtp1;3178076]Toftt in a different sense. I won't mention the provider name because she learnered her lesson. You ever have that bad odor kick in and wonder why she didn't shower before she saw you. I did and I had enough. After fucking her I took my cock out and told her to suck my dick. She started to take the cover off and I stopped her not because I enjoy CBJ but becaause I wanted her to taste her disgusting pussy smell. She was cringing and I asked how it tasted. She confessed not great so I told her to stop and made her take a shower with me. I told her that's what guys smell when you don't shower in between. Promised it would never happen again. Came back out bed her over in k9 and pounded her took off cover and sprayed her ass. She was getting in shower as I was leaving getting ready for the next one.[/QUOTE]New sheriff is in town and thanks for making folks fall in line.

It makes me sad to hear of a brutal murder like this. And I can fully understand why her former clients feel an even more intense sense of loss, I've had that same feeling with every one I've ever known that passed away, even if I didn't know them well.

What bothers me about some of the posts I've seen here is how there seems to be a tendency to minimize the role of drugs that exists in these violent crimes in almost every case. I know that details are not yet fully known in this particular case, but we do know that both victims were participants in illegal drug use, and 9 times out of 10 when there is a shooting like this, drugs are involved in some way or another. Most of the time it's some variation of a drug related robbery -- someone owes someone money or someone knows someone has money for the taking because they've been involved in a drug transaction with them at some point. I seriously doubt these were just random robbers that chose a girl off BP at random.

Even if the drugs were not a direct motive for the killings, all drugs encourage a "live on the edge" lifestyle like these young people were living. Hooking out of a hotel room to make ends meet, for example. Everyone can sugarcoat it and say things like she was careful, she was low volume, etc. But this death could have been avoided by smarter lifestyle choices by the victims.

It's not until society starts holding everyone accountable for their irresponsible decisions that this kind of violence can be curtailed. When someone gets killed there is an automatic outpouring for the victim and an instant denial about how they got into that situation in the first place.

When young adults make the conscious choice to partake in illegal drug use, then find themselves in a predicament (like homelessness) as a result of their own actions, then are injured or killed as a result of those actions, it does ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD to ignore the fact that if they had just stayed off drugs they would still be alive. Allowing ourselves to be in denial only makes it certain that more young people will be lured into the drug lifestyle, and more of them will die violently.

[blue]I moved this idiots post here to make it easier. Feel free to tell him what a fucking douche he is.

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[QUOTE=Fappernator;3178824]What bothers me about some of the posts I've seen here is how there seems to be a tendency to minimize the role of drugs that exists in these violent crimes in almost every case. I know that details are not yet fully known in this particular case, but we do know that both victims were participants in illegal drug use, and 9 times out of 10 when there is a shooting like this, drugs are involved in some way or another. Most of the time it's some variation of a drug related robbery -- someone owes someone money or someone knows someone has money for the taking because they've been involved in a drug transaction with them at some point. I seriously doubt these were just random robbers that chose a girl off BP at random.

Even if the drugs were not a direct motive for the killings, all drugs encourage a "live on the edge" lifestyle like these young people were living. Hooking out of a hotel room to make ends meet, for example. Everyone can sugarcoat it and say things like she was careful, she was low volume, etc. But this death could have been avoided by smarter lifestyle choices by the victims.[/QUOTE]I saw your first post in the BP thread and now this one in the NEWS thread. First of all, both post should have been here. Secondly, shut up. Seriously, you're a troll. There are a ton of things that happen in her life that led her down this path. The point is, she was 22 years old, she had 3 kids, which means she was a kid when she had her kids and now she's dead. Murdered. Executed. Didn't get a chance to turn her life around. She may have. If she were alive or some how got lucky and survived, she might have but she's dead so she can't.

Your post, both of them, are trash. Did it make you feel good to pass judgement on a hooker on a pussy forum? Get a life, clown.

[QUOTE=Dsrtp1;3178076]Toftt in a different sense. I won't mention the provider name because she learnered her lesson. You ever have that bad odor kick in and wonder why she didn't shower before she saw you. I did and I had enough. After fucking her I took my cock out and told her to suck my dick. She started to take the cover off and I stopped her not because I enjoy CBJ but becaause I wanted her to taste her disgusting pussy smell. She was cringing and I asked how it tasted. She confessed not great so I told her to stop and made her take a shower with me. I told her that's what guys smell when you don't shower in between. Promised it would never happen again. Came back out bed her over in k9 and pounded her took off cover and sprayed her ass. She was getting in shower as I was leaving getting ready for the next one.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link / name?

People don't choose to be junkies you fucking idiot. I know it makes the holier than thou types like you feel better to look down their noses at people so you can feel smugly superior in your pitiful like but addiction is a disease. It's a biochemical genetic disorder and had Harry Anslinger not so successfully brainwashed the entire world in the 30's before people could fact check his bullshit you wouldn't think this and so many junkies wouldn't be dying.

Do you think she went to her jr high school guidance counselor and said "could you please lay out a course of study for me which lands me turning tricks on the street to finance a drug habit?

Fucking educate yourself before you open your fucking pie hole. Ideas based in ignorance are not opinions, they are prejudices, learn to determine the difference.

Fucking asshole,

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[QUOTE=Fappernator;3178824]It makes me sad to hear of a brutal murder like this. And I can fully understand why her former clients feel an even more intense sense of loss, I've had that same feeling with every one I've ever known that passed away, even if I didn't know them well.

What bothers me about some of the posts I've seen here is how there seems to be a tendency to minimize the role of drugs that exists in these violent crimes in almost every case. I know that details are not yet fully known in this particular case, but we do know that both victims were participants in illegal drug use, and 9 times out of 10 when there is a shooting like this, drugs are involved in some way or another. Most of the time it's some variation of a drug related robbery -- someone owes someone money or someone knows someone has money for the taking because they've been involved in a drug transaction with them at some point. I seriously doubt these were just random robbers that chose a girl off BP at random.

Even if the drugs were not a direct motive for the killings, all drugs encourage a "live on the edge" lifestyle like these young people were living. Hooking out of a hotel room to make ends meet, for example. Everyone can sugarcoat it and say things like she was careful, she was low volume, etc. But this death could have been avoided by smarter lifestyle choices by the victims.

It's not until society starts holding everyone accountable for their irresponsible decisions that this kind of violence can be curtailed. When someone gets killed there is an automatic outpouring for the victim and an instant denial about how they got into that situation in the first place.

When young adults make the conscious choice to partake in illegal drug use, then find themselves in a predicament (like homelessness) as a result of their own actions, then are injured or killed as a result of those actions, it does ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD to ignore the fact that if they had just stayed off drugs they would still be alive. Allowing ourselves to be in denial only makes it certain that more young people will be lured into the drug lifestyle, and more of them will die violently.

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[QUOTE=Admin2;3179175]People don't choose to be junkies
Fucking educate yourself before you open your fucking pie hole. Ideas based in ignorance are not opinions, they are prejudices, learn to determine the difference.
[/QUOTE]People become addicts because they make the conscious choice to engage in that behavior. They didn't get addicted to drugs because someone forced them to partake in the behavior against their will, they got addicted because they ignored all the people saying "don't do that! Its addictive and will ruin your life! Over and over again they have the opportunity to listen to the voices from people smarter than them that tell them its a bad idea, but they make the conscious decision to ignore those warnings and in an act of defiance choose their own fate. That's not opinion, it's fact. Although I'm sure this will get censored, because facts aren't welcome here unless they align with your own opinion.

[QUOTE=Fappernator;3179265]People become addicts because they make the conscious choice to engage in that behavior. They didn't get addicted to drugs because someone forced them to partake in the behavior against their will, they got addicted because they ignored all the people saying "don't do that! Its addictive and will ruin your life! Over and over again they have the opportunity to listen to the voices from people smarter than them that tell them its a bad idea, but they make the conscious decision to ignore those warnings and in an act of defiance choose their own fate. That's not opinion, it's fact. Although I'm sure this will get censored, because facts aren't welcome here unless they align with your own opinion.[/QUOTE]I am going to fucking destroy you and your ignorance.

Site the studies for you assertions, produce your data. You can't, not from a reputable SCIENTIFIC source, and I can already tell you why you can't. Because it doesn't exist. This is a space I have been involved in for over 30 years.

Here are some of mine;.

This is from the National Institute of Health talking about the genetic / environmental attributes.

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2715956/[/URL]

Here, this is from Johns Hopkins.

[URL]http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/institute_basic_biomedical_sciences/about_us/basic_research_human_health/Drug%20Abuse/drugabuse.html[/URL]

Mayo Clinic;.

[URL]http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/drug-addiction/basics/causes/con-20020970[/URL]

I will delete anything else you post about addiction being the result of the addicts choice that doesn't have supporting SCIENTIFIC evidence to support your claim. That's not censorship, that's muzzling a fucking idiot. You can post about the pharmacological root as opposed to the social root if and only IF you support your claim with SCIENCE.

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Like I said, SCIENCE. I'm not going to let you bloviate on subjects with which you have no understanding. In this one you advocate that all drugs should be illegal because they are bad. I would bet 1,000 dollars you are unaware of the way drug abuse and drug legality is treated in Portugal which is UNIVERSALLY recognized by the treatment community as having the absolute best system for handling drugs and addiction in the world.

Keep posting on this and I will continue owning you.

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Like I said, SCIENCE. I'm not going to let you bloviate on subjects with which you have no understanding. In this one you advocate that all drugs should be illegal because they are bad. I would bet 1,000 dollars you are unaware of the way drug abuse and drug legality is treated in Portugal which is UNIVERSALLY recognized by the treatment community as having the absolute best system for handling drugs and addiction in the world.

Keep posting on this and I will continue owning you.
[/QUOTE]So you're suggesting drug addicts are kidnapped and subdued and forced to try the drugs for the first time. They did not make that conscious decision? All of your science refers to drug addicts AFTER they've already become addicted, and does nothing to address the fact that almost all of them opt in to the behavior initially. Yes I agree once they're hooked, its hard to get out of it without help. But rewind to BEFORE they are addicted, how did they get started? They made their own choices. Just like those who make a conscious choice to never get involved in drugs in the first place make theirs. There are plenty of young people who opt out of this lifestyle and thereby don't find themselves getting murdered in cheap hotels by random thugs.

And yes I'm sure you'll continue to do as you please with my post. No shortage of moderator abuse around here.

It's a tragedy that two men were shot multiple times in there apartment.

[URL]http://www.wral.com/durham-brothers-wanted-for-attempted-murder-arrested/10341455/[/URL]

It's a tragedy that a woman from Kentucky was robbed, raped and strangled with a telephone cord in her Morrisville hotel room.

[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article119380843.html[/URL]

It's a tragedy that a man and a woman were murdered execution style in their Raleigh hotel room / hallway.

[URL]http://abc11.com/news/victims-mother-wants-death-penalty-in-hotel-murders/1641208/[/URL]

It's a tragedy that the same POS is responsible for all three of these crimes. How many other unsolved cases are linked to this POS?

The tragedy is the victims and their families who have or who are still suffering. For what? Because some lazy individual didn't apply themselves in school or on the job? Or perhaps this individual thought he was entitled and society owed him? Perhaps this individual only cared about himself to the point that if anybody was in his way; they were not important or even expendable. Lifestyle and choices can shorten a person's lifespan, but it's a personal decision that they have to live with. However, nobody chooses to be robbed, shot, kidnapped, raped or murdered and that's the difference and the reason why some people are angry. If you choose to be a loser then accept the consequences of a poor quality of life that comes with your choice. However, don't choose to be a loser and then ruin other people's lives because you don't want to accept the less than desirable life you have. A thug or gangster life is not a legitimate lifestyle and that's also part of the problem since some elements in society make it glamorous.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3179421] A thug or gangster life is not a legitimate lifestyle and that's also part of the problem since some elements in society make it glamorous.[/QUOTE]I completely agree, and if we could get our youth to listen to our warnings about drugs before they get involved with them, the thugs / gangsters would not have customers for their primary commodity, and would have nobody to direct their violence at except each other.

The purchasers and users of drugs are the ones supporting the gangster lifestyle and allowing them to stay in business.

[QUOTE=Fappernator;3179265]People become addicts because they make the conscious choice to engage in that behavior. They didn't get addicted to drugs because someone forced them to partake in the behavior against their will, they got addicted because they ignored all the people saying "don't do that! Its addictive and will ruin your life! Over and over again they have the opportunity to listen to the voices from people smarter than them that tell them its a bad idea, but they make the conscious decision to ignore those warnings and in an act of defiance choose their own fate. That's not opinion, it's fact. Although I'm sure this will get censored, because facts aren't welcome here unless they align with your own opinion.[/QUOTE]I leave for a few days then see this, and am reminded how who voted for the clowns who passed HB2. Same logic applies, "people choose to be gay (even though everyone around them knew they were effiminate by age 5), people choose to get hooked on cheap narcotics that began as a routine prescription for pain from their innocent doctor. Dude, fuck off. You are everything that's wrong with this state right now. Terry Sanford must be rolling in his grave at what has happened to this state in the last 5 years which has put policy in control of people who believe the shit this guy does, and all but destroyed 60 fucking years of progress AWAY from this kind of religion-based ignorant mindset. We used to have more "MA" and less "MS" in this state, but it's clear the Mississippi mindset is what's in fashion again.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3176311]I know many of you seem upset and some of you angry and as cold as this is going to sound, DON'T. I saw Muneka on two occasions and she was sweet to me each time but there was something off about her. I remember the last time (it was a long time ago) she told me a relative had passed and left her a house I think heading towards Wilmington. I believe she also told me that she did not have a regular day job and pretty much worked when she wanted and saw who she wanted. The first time I saw her she was on capital at abvi and when I asked why she was in such a shit hole pretty much she told me that nobody bothered her there and too many girls were getting busted on capital. She was also one of the ones who was decent on the price, depending on the time of day and how pleasant you were in the conversation.

Back to the something off. For starters she had a guys name tattooed on her lower back (the guy she died with) and she had 3 kids presumably by him at 22. Also, neither of them were working and if he was in that hotel he knew what she was doing, given that she was actively posting. Yes mine and many others are the generations of boys, but also the generations of dumb women. Hell I'm sure there were no shortage of sugar daddies or would be sds from here who would have in exchange for regular hookups put her on her feet but she choose Dwayne. As a father I'm pretty comfortable saying that she chose Dwayne over her kids (as any man knows for the right woman we'll shovel poop 12 hours a day to put food on the table and provide a home). She was 22 and seems to have family in the area so she probably had options other than staying with him. I've know women with similar stories and usually their kids are with family but they are not because people will take the kids but won't deal with their bs.

Yes she was apparently pregnant, yes some of her relatives had called her a good person who fell on hard times but we all choose the lives we lead. None of us know at this point why those men were there or why they killed them. Back when I saw her she seemed selective about who to see when it got late and I think I got in the first time because of my phone demeanor (IMO I don't "sound white" but I hear it enough to wonder). It's possible the killers knew her or the boyfriend or one of them may have tricked with her earlier and then gone back when they thought she had more money. It's also possible there was a deeper connection.

No matter what the why is, I strongly encourage other guys on here to compartmentalize, take a break from the hobby or find someone to talk to. Harboring the wrong kinds of feelings about this kind of thing can lead to some bad consequences. Years ago I knew a guy who "loved" a SW and when she died he went to her funeral. Because he had trouble processing what happened he ended up wasting a lot of money on her family who pretty much used him and his guilt as a piggy bank. Another guy who knew her moved on but became very paternal with the sws he would see. He even asked one who said she wanted to clean up to move in with him since she didn't have anywhere to go. In the end he was robbed and got the clap for his efforts.

I'm sure I sound pretty callous but many of us who post here have far more to lose than a lot of women who post on BP. Times like this are dangerous for guys like us, not because of shooters, but because of the emotions that come with sex (it's harder for us than for them). Please use your best judgement out there and stay safe.

On a side note, I want to say thanks to the moderators for not letting us post full names in public. Some jag has some backpage posts with her real name saying RIP all but ensuring that when her kids grow up they'll know what she did.[/QUOTE]It's just soured me to a new level and has made me start looking at every one of these girls with an even stronger lens. It's killed my desire to even see a girl. Too close to home. Nevermind the fact that an innocent monger could have been in the room when this went down, which could be a situation that has potential to be replicated at your visit du jour. Just depressing. Not to mention it has been totally VOID the past week or so of girls that are even "decent" by BP standards. And it's the holiday $ to boot.

[QUOTE=Fappernator;3179418]So you're suggesting drug addicts are kidnapped and subdued and forced to try the drugs for the first time. They did not make that conscious decision? All of your science refers to drug addicts AFTER they've already become addicted, and does nothing to address the fact that almost all of them opt in to the behavior initially. Yes I agree once they're hooked, its hard to get out of it without help. But rewind to BEFORE they are addicted, how did they get started? They made their own choices. Just like those who make a conscious choice to never get involved in drugs in the first place make theirs. There are plenty of young people who opt out of this lifestyle and thereby don't find themselves getting murdered in cheap hotels by random thugs.

And yes I'm sure you'll continue to do as you please with my post. No shortage of moderator abuse around here.[/QUOTE]You are being DISABUSED of false information.

I couldn't help but notice that you still only have opinion and not fact and sidestepped the issue in favor of arguing by false analogy. I know that when your argument is unsupportable by facts the only thing left is some sort of fallacy but I didn't expect it to be this simple.

Addicts are addicts LONG before they ever do the first drug which would be why all of the SCIENCE (that pesky word again) talks about the environmental element in regards to addiction. The majority of addicts come from homes where addiction is present so from the earliest age they are taught and modeled addictive behavior. Along with the abuse that's generally prevalent in addictive homes what you end up with are people that need, not want, but need to find something to place between themselves and a world they literally are unequipped to deal with. I've heard your ilk before and in your mind you see these people as having the same options that you did. They are as much a product of their environment as you were. As long as idiots like you continue to assert that pre drug use addiction is a choice then the US will continue to make ZERO progress in treating addiction.

So, again, I ask you to support your claims with fact. All you have is misinformed opinion, the really sad part is you don't even know where it came from.

Read this [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger[/URL].

Everything you think you know about drugs and addiction was literally made up by this guy so he could solidify a power base in DC. He wanted power, addicts couldn't fight back against his lies, the few doctors that tried lost their licenses to practice and since 1930 the public and government has been misinformed about addiction.

Here, this is how you handle addiction; [URL]https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-portugal-what-happened-after-decriminalization-drugs-weed-to-heroin[/URL].

It's a public health problem not a criminal problem, criminalizing drug abuse is the thing that kills addicts, not the drugs.