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Do providers usually get emotionally close to clients and then try to find out personal information about them? Then do they usually post that personal information on blacklisting sites?

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This is what I'm talking about, the bad karma. Please Please I hope it wasn't you. I'm truly sorry I offended you bb, so can we please drop something that happened ions ago. This is a dead horse. I'm dropping it now thanks to someone on here who gives me good advice.

[QUOTE=BaconBits; 1707489]Do providers usually get emotionally close to clients and then try to find out personal information about them? Then do they usually post that personal information on blacklisting sites?

BB[/QUOTE]

I think not as a rule but it does happen.

To go a bit on a tangent from this however I was often surprised to discover that behind professional demeanor hides someone who is open to any type of relationship.

Many of them are just plain lonely. In fact some even become providers not as much out of financial necessity as out of shear loneliness realizing that men often pay not as much for her company as for her 'simply leaving after it's done' and (sometimes false) assurance of the drama-free session with no 'morning after'. There are some providers (I know at least one) who are looking for saviors, then there are others that want to move you to FWB or BF, which often are the other terms for 'sugar daddy'.

Then, there are others who you just hit it off with and before you know you're either friends with them or their BF, if that's what you're after and she is open to it.

However be aware of several things. First, this often ends bad because either you or her or both of you end up being crazy drama queens and at the end just plainly drive each other nuts with mutual accusation of 'drama'. If you get jealous in relation to her 'work' and start setting conditions on what she is and she is not to do in relation to that, you really are setting yourself up for huge disappointment.

And the third, and that especially concerns the more psychologically stable providers that you just happen to hit it off with, once they begin to open up about their real lives (their real names, their real families, where do they actually live, work, go to school, etc) , don't try to play a part of protective papa by telling them the staff like: "Oh you shouldn't tell this type of staff to anybody! I mean I'm ok but you got to be careful, there is a jungle out there!" Assume that they know about the 'jungle out there' more then you do. For many of more psychologically stable providers, too much protectiveness on your part would raise the red flags with names like: "obsessive-compulsive!" or "stalker!" attached to them. If you began process of 'getting closer to the provider' this type of 'concern' on your part also chances are will confuse them (they told you something personal and you appear as though you're pushing back) and when something confuses them, especially in initial stages, they would usually quickly revert to being 'professional'.

This last is coming from personal experience. Happened to me at least twice.

About a year ago by doing exactly that I lost an opportunity to get close to a provider with whom I really hoped to move relationship from provider / client to first, friends and then who knows. Not only that but I told her that based on the info she provided me with I googled her and now know that she was a HS honor student, etc, etc. I'm sure that it is as a result of that that now, unfortunately, my relationship with her remained purely professional.

Be as it may, if you pay for 1/2 hour and end up staying 2-4 hours instead, chances are she'd be open to maybe trying something other then purely provider / client relationship with you. Reasons for it however are yours to figure out.

Never a time I don't. Any info I can get on other reviews lack of info, pics anything helps me be more comfortable especially if I'm trying to see someone new.

[QUOTE=Deb4512; 1706809]Do men generally google providers numbers before seeing them? Also, does the average to novel hobbyist google phone numbers?

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[QUOTE=Deb4512;1706809]Do men generally google providers numbers before seeing them? Also, does the average to novel hobbyist google phone numbers?[/QUOTE]I always do any research I can including google of phone number and tineye / google image searches. Bear in mind, though, that the sole purpose of that searching is to ensure a provider is legit, as in not LE. So if I find stuff about a provider being arrested, it would not be a negative, arrests happen in this business. I disregard wacky exaggerating negative stuff, too, which is usually posted by someone who is pissed at a provider for personal reasons and is trying to retaliate. People post all kinds of crap like "so and so has herpes and gave it to me." That's extremely unlikely to be true, especially if posted on Backpage or something.

The main thing that would turn me off to a provider would be legit sounding negative reviews, especially here on USAG because the info on here is usually good. The oThER site is also a good source that I find by phone google and if a provider has mostly negative reviews that's an issue.

I would not worry too much about your number being googled, especially if you have an anonymous phone.

[QUOTE=BaconBits; 1707489]Do providers usually get emotionally close to clients and then try to find out personal information about them? Then do they usually post that personal information on blacklisting sites?

BB[/QUOTE]Why do you ask? like us they communicate among themselves same as we do, to eliminate the flakes, weirdos and rip offs.

[QUOTE=BaconBits; 1707489]Do providers usually get emotionally close to clients and then try to find out personal information about them? Then do they usually post that personal information on blacklisting sites?

BB[/QUOTE]What was the quote Charlie Sheen said some time ago. Come on, you know it.

Since Obama called California Attorney General Kamala Harris, 'by far the best-looking attorney general in the country', you think Martha's trying to drum up some human trafficking charges against her?

[QUOTE=JohnJr1;1751452]Some might but it is not a true tantric practice. On some occasions I have heard of sexual surrogates offering FS as a means of practicing methods that have been tought usually with men that have performance issues. I have never gotten FS unless she was just an escort marketing herself as a tantric provider-same with some massage girls. Because they are pricey I do not have long term & ongoing visits with them and sacrederos is where I find them. I'd be interested to know which ladies have you enjoyed FS with from that site? How did it differ from any escorts that you've seen and was it really worth the xtra $?[/QUOTE]As far as I know a true Tantric experience should culminate in the sexual intercourse. The build up may take hours, sometimes days with a man and a woman looking at each other, touching each other in a very sensual but reserved manner but eventually it leads to 'eruption of senses" and what I presume is a quite euphoric sexual intercourse. The goal is the ability to control your senses and be able to turn yourself onto just about anything just by sheer ability to push 'your' right stimulative buttons, maybe even by bringing to the surface your sacred erotic fantasies. Apparently in Tantric colony you could be assigned to 'initiate' a female into the fold. That female could be pretty 20 year old or 100 year old. The same could happen the other way with a female doing this to a male.

Your Tantric depth is evaluated on the range of your abilities to propel your senses into euphoria at will. It's seems almost like sort of 'anti-meditation'. With meditation you detach yourself from your senses and try to enter a sort of 'feelings-free' trance. In Tantra it's the exact opposite you unite yourself with your senses bringing them to the surface gradually but eventually to your maximum ability, with your mind directing them to guide you into the sense of euphoria. The goal here is learning how to have your mind bring senses about, if need be irrespective of the outside environment but in the same time, if possible using that outside environment to speed up the process. In short it's learning how to have mind control your senses. At least that's the way it seems to me. I hope I'm not being too convoluted here.

Now, outside of India of course Tantra is affected by local, in our case Western values. I know of Tantric group that has women and men stand in front of each other and look at each other with lusty eyes. Any physical contact as far as I know is forbidden. No wonder it has more women then men. Women like when men look at them with lusty eyes while she retains her ability to turn away. Once I met one of them at a party. She looked at me as though she wanted to kiss me. I leaned forward, she leaned back. That happened couple of times after which I though 'enough of masturbation' and moved on to someone with whom I that night eventually ended up in the hotel. What's the moral? There is a time and place for everything.

If you meet a woman (provider or otherwise) who quickly assaults you with DFK, grabbing you around, tearing your cloths off, in short trying to arise in you something that in my experience many ladies tend to call 'passion', and whose artificiality would at times even make me giggle, you can safely assume that your date is they are not into Tantra.

BTW, I'm not in any way specialist on Tantra. I just came to these conclusion by reading about Tantra on internet, including on Wikipedia.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus; 1751658]As far as I know a true Tantric experience should culminate in the sexual intercourse. The build up may take hours, sometimes days with a man and a woman looking at each other, touching each other in a very sensual but reserved manner but eventually it leads to 'eruption of senses" and what I presume is a quite euphoric sexual intercourse. The goal is the ability to control your senses and be able to turn yourself onto just about anything just by sheer ability to push 'your' right stimulative buttons, maybe even by bringing to the surface your sacred erotic fantasies. Apparently in Tantric colony you could be assigned to 'initiate' a female into the fold. That female could be pretty 20 year old or 100 year old. The same could happen the other way with a female doing this to a male.

Your Tantric depth is evaluated on the range of your abilities to propel your senses into euphoria at will. It's seems almost like sort of 'anti-meditation'. With meditation you detach yourself from your senses and try to enter a sort of 'feelings-free' trance. In Tantra it's the exact opposite you unite yourself with your senses bringing them to the surface gradually but eventually to your maximum ability, with your mind directing them to guide you into the sense of euphoria. The goal here is learning how to have your mind bring senses about, if need be irrespective of the outside environment but in the same time, if possible using that outside environment to speed up the process. In short it's learning how to have mind control your senses. At least that's the way it seems to me. I hope I'm not being too convoluted here.

Now, outside of India of course Tantra is affected by local, in our case Western values. I know of Tantric group that has women and men stand in front of each other and look at each other with lusty eyes. Any physical contact as far as I know is forbidden. No wonder it has more women then men. Women like when men look at them with lusty eyes while she retains her ability to turn away. Once I met one of them at a party. She looked at me as though she wanted to kiss me. I leaned forward, she leaned back. That happened couple of times after which I though 'enough of masturbation' and moved on to someone with whom I that night eventually ended up in the hotel. What's the moral? There is a time and place for everything.

If you meet a woman (provider or otherwise) who quickly assaults you with DFK, grabbing you around, tearing your cloths off, in short trying to arise in you something that in my experience many ladies tend to call 'passion', and whose artificiality would at times even make me giggle, you can safely assume that your date is they are not into Tantra.

BTW, I'm not in any way specialist on Tantra. I just came to these conclusion by reading about Tantra on internet, including on Wikipedia.[/QUOTE]And I thougth you had slept at a holiday inn

I agree with Nrimus. I think that tantric experiences can also culminate in sexual intercourse. That is really the entire point, that you are building yourself up for sex and the ability to experience "whole body orgasms." Depending on who you ask, there are 3 kinds of tantra: White, red and black. They involve varying degrees of sexual activity. I have experienced FS with tantric providers in the Boston area, and it came across as very authentic, and I know of escorts that simply use it as a buzz word to get clients. True tantric sex is not just about getting off. It is a much more involved process. I'm certainly not saying that it is better. But it is certainly a different experience. You can find all variety in the Boston area.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus; 1751658]As far as I know a true Tantric experience should culminate in the sexual intercourse. The build up may take hours, sometimes days with a man and a woman looking at each other, touching each other in a very sensual but reserved manner but eventually it leads to 'eruption of senses" and what I presume is a quite euphoric sexual intercourse. The goal is the ability to control your senses and be able to turn yourself onto just about anything just by sheer ability to push 'your' right stimulative buttons, maybe even by bringing to the surface your sacred erotic fantasies. Apparently in Tantric colony you could be assigned to 'initiate' a female into the fold. That female could be pretty 20 year old or 100 year old. The same could happen the other way with a female doing this to a male.

Your Tantric depth is evaluated on the range of your abilities to propel your senses into euphoria at will. It's seems almost like sort of 'anti-meditation'. With meditation you detach yourself from your senses and try to enter a sort of 'feelings-free' trance. In Tantra it's the exact opposite you unite yourself with your senses bringing them to the surface gradually but eventually to your maximum ability, with your mind directing them to guide you into the sense of euphoria. The goal here is learning how to have your mind bring senses about, if need be irrespective of the outside environment but in the same time, if possible using that outside environment to speed up the process. In short it's learning how to have mind control your senses. At least that's the way it seems to me. I hope I'm not being too convoluted here.

Now, outside of India of course Tantra is affected by local, in our case Western values. I know of Tantric group that has women and men stand in front of each other and look at each other with lusty eyes. Any physical contact as far as I know is forbidden. No wonder it has more women then men. Women like when men look at them with lusty eyes while she retains her ability to turn away. Once I met one of them at a party. She looked at me as though she wanted to kiss me. I leaned forward, she leaned back. That happened couple of times after which I though 'enough of masturbation' and moved on to someone with whom I that night eventually ended up in the hotel. What's the moral? There is a time and place for everything.

If you meet a woman (provider or otherwise) who quickly assaults you with DFK, grabbing you around, tearing your cloths off, in short trying to arise in you something that in my experience many ladies tend to call 'passion', and whose artificiality would at times even make me giggle, you can safely assume that your date is they are not into Tantra.

BTW, I'm not in any way specialist on Tantra. I just came to these conclusion by reading about Tantra on internet, including on Wikipedia.[/QUOTE]

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So I've been very interested in going on an "adult vacation". The site I've been looking at is D. R. Nights. Looks like a great set up with great girls. A little pricey but if its as advertised than could be worth it. Was wondering if any of you gents had any experience with this type of vacation and could lend a brother some helpful advice / suggestions / recommendations. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Bachelor584;1761134]So I've been very interested in going on an "adult vacation". The site I've been looking at is D. R. Nights. Looks like a great set up with great girls. A little pricey but if its as advertised than could be worth it. Was wondering if any of you gents had any experience with this type of vacation and could lend a brother some helpful advice / suggestions / recommendations. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Go to international sex guide. Com (google it) it a sister of this page and do your research! You'll be happy you did.

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[QUOTE=Challenged;1754558]Was just perusing the Salt Lake City BP and CL ads. My goodness, it's enough to make a grown man weep. Looks like they've got it very good.[/QUOTE]It's not as good as you think we have it better in Boston and Providence. I was out there a year ago and went to 2 non Asian mp and never left happy. Did experience a nirvana massage Whitchurch was a great massage but fully clothed. The other was a place with a cute girl in a bikini giving a lame massage. Unless things have changed in a year ill stick to our home town talent.

I check the salt lake reviews and nothing looks to awesome.

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