Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Big Smile;1490447]I guess that's what I get for being new.[/QUOTE]I'm no pro, but I simply try friendliness. Be sure to ask her name, compliment her (looks, technique, etc) and engage her. I also prefer lots of less-obvious touching: squeeze her hand a little if given the opportunity, graze her calf, etc. I try not to be too obvious unless I know her or at least her rep. Ass and tits are usually left untouched until I know the game is on, for instance. Raise your ass a little if she rubs in the area; spread you legs a little when she massages them, etc. I can't think of any strike-outs when using these subtle techniques. Practice makes perfect

[QUOTE=Cash Value;1488810]They must be desperate since they have been there a really long time. Not their prices are down to 40 an hour. Must be ready to close or something. Place was never that good nor were the girls. The place around the corner from them next to howards is in trouble too. Does anyone at all go there?[/QUOTE]I walked in I'm sort of a newbie the lady greeted me "hey honey you here for massage. 30 dollar for hour I went into a room closed up poorly light then walks in a 6 out of ten women massage my back with no towel she roamed around everywere! Was teasing for a while asked in the beginning for a younger one she said she will come in for the front side after 30 minutes of teasing me letting my hand feel EV3thlng after a while of teaching her yoga DS teasing me on top fully comando a baby back 7 comes in playing with the boys the one let me feel up down below while the other up top laugh of one girl kinda creeped me out but overall amazing. Too bad the massage ends after the happy ending no matter how fast it may cum LOL.

Date: 7/08/2012.

Provider: Vivian.

Phone: 714-674-0889.

Email Address:.

URL / Website: [url]http://www.socalinsiders.com/posts/2688/[/url]

City: Orange County in Brea.

State: California.

Address: Call Them.

Appointment Type: Spa.

Activities: CBJ MASSAGE AND FS.

Session Length: 1hr.

Fee: 50 + 100.

Ethnic Background: Latina.

Physical Description: 5'5".125# Attractive, guessing a see-cup, firm and round.

Recommendation: Yes

Long time lurker, first time poster.

Is this the place with the old papasan in a white coat in the front? If it is, this place is a hit or miss, at least for me. First time I went around 10:30, door was open, papasan said no massage. I didn't know if that meant there was only one provider who was busy with another monger, or if Leo was around so I split. Went a week later, this time paid. 5 to house, got a half decent massage, and an OK CBJ to HE. Provider was an older Asian lady looks to be around 40-45. Not ugly, but by no means pretty. Friendly enough though. Tipped. 6 after the deed. When I was walking out, there was a latina in another room who looked slender, but her face was busted. I may give this place another try. Maybe not. YMMV *Note, if I have the wrong place, my apologies to Three X & you may disregard my post.

If you are in the mood for Latina, might I suggest S&R in GG. They always seem to have at least 3 providers on at any time, so more choice for us mongers. Also, most of them are 7-8 in the looks dept. This is my regular haunt for latinas. Skypark in Irvine also had some juicy latinas with thick booties. But don't know if they're still around. Heard a couple places were busted by leo last year. But hey, these places always pop back up. No pun intended.

[QUOTE=Three X; 1491375]Date: 7/08/2012.

Provider: Vivian.

Phone: 714-674-0889.

Email Address:.

URL / Website:

[url]http://www.socalinsiders.com/posts/2688/[/url]

City: Orange County in Brea.

State: California.

Address: Call Them.

Appointment Type: Spa.

Activities: CBJ MASSAGE AND FS.

Session Length: 1hr.

Fee: 50 + 100.

Ethnic Background: Latina.

Physical Description: 5'5".125# Attractive, guessing a see-cup, firm and round.

Recommendation: Yes[/QUOTE]

Very unusual post. A senior member with over 400 posts but very few in the past year. Many of the posts related to LE actions. And out of the blue he posts this information? LE has been known to take over identities of mongers who've been busted or set themselves up as mongers over a long period of time.

I could if wrong (and if so I apologize in advance) but my advice is be careful on this one.

[QUOTE=Three X; 1491375]Date: 7/08/2012.

Provider: Vivian.

Phone: 714-674-0889.

Email Address:.

URL / Website:

[url]http://www.socalinsiders.com/posts/2688/[/url]

Recommendation: Yes[/QUOTE]

Went to 101 yesterday and saw my alternative to Mia since Mia only works Thursdays and Fridays. The alternative is a sexy, tiny little thing, but since it's rapidly turning personal, I'll hold off on reviewing her for now. However, she came four times and I came once and she's the one who got the tip. What's wrong with this picture?

So today, I decided I wanted to try Mai, the big titted but legit Viet in Fountain Valley. She was as advertised: about 50, a tad on the big side, excellent massage. She's very sweet and nice, but you ain't getting anywhere near those knockers. I even gave her a hug as I was leaving and she gave me a sort of a one boob hug, hugging me with one hand and pushing me away with the other. Poor woman is conflicted, but if you want a great massage and that's all, I recommend.

For some reason, I decided I was horny enough to go to an R & T place after that, but didn't feel like going to any of my regular places. I tried a place in Dana Point that has some good reviews, but for the life of me I can't figure out why. Place was a dump! I got the owner, a Chinese in her 40's named Helen. She gave me a lackluster massage and then somebody came in so she left for a minute. When she came back, she said her appointment was there and began a jackhammer HJ that was not at all appreciated by Dangle Jr. I just wanted her to stop, never did get hard. She finally gave up and I got up and got the hell out of there as fast as I could. Left her the change for a tip: $15. Never going back there.

I can't figure out why the reviews are good. Guys should get around more. I will appreciate my regular places all the more now.

The pisser is I spent 130 bucks today and never did nut. What's wrong with me?

[QUOTE=Jon Jones; 1491743]Very unusual post. A senior member with over 400 posts but very few in the past year. Many of the posts related to LE actions. And out of the blue he posts this information? LE has been known to take over identities of mongers who've been busted or set themselves up as mongers over a long period of time.

I could if wrong (and if so I apologize in advance) but my advice is be careful on this one.[/QUOTE]Well man I am on a limited posting account.

All of my post must go though 1 of the Jackson Moderators.

I got into a flame war with some guy.

I do not use this account because if I post something it may take 1 day for it to be released to the board.

Also my post maybe out of context because of the time difference.

That is why I do not post much anymore.

3X aka Three X aka XXX

I tried out Five Star after reading some good reviews here. This was a case of YMMV. First the good: only 30 bucks for a great 1 hour Massage, I got the entire time. The bad: Amy absolutely refused to provide a HJ. I couldn't believe it. During Massage there was zero resistance to my hand roaming which started on her legs, moved up to her butt, around to her crotch, up her back, around to her chest, then under shirt. She also sat on the table at my head and bent over to massage all the way down past my stomach to the base of my penis and while she was doing this I lifted her shirt, pulled up her bra, and kissed her nipple. When the end came, she climbed up on the table and sat between my legs. I Thought this was it, I was going to get a nice ball Massage and happy ending but she never got to them. She massaged all around them for a good while. I removed the towel twice and she put it back on and shook her head. I thought she was just trying to be extra cautious so I made my intentions more obvious and grabbed her hands and placed them on my pole. She gasped in surprise like she's never had that happen before. She climbed off the table and said time was up. She had really worked me up massaging around the boys and I couldn't leave without nutting so asked her for lotion to do myself. She obliged and then rubbed my nipple while I rubbed hers with one hand and Johnson with the other. When done, she gave me a wet towel to clean up. I left her 20 for a tip for the great Massage.

I would go back for the 30 dollar Massage as it was good but I would go with a different provider and I would go not expecting HE. That would just be a bonus.

Bebe Spa.

For whatever reason I decided to go to this place I found from backpages / rubmaps. As soon as I stepped in the place, I was greeted by a beautiful viet chick about 5'3 120lbs and led straight into a room within 8 seconds tops. She asked if I was new and I said yea. I paid the 40$ house fee for hh and she told me to get undressed and lay on the bed and she left the room. As soon as she came back, she got on top of me and started massaging my back for a good 5-6 minutes. I started getting impatient and said can I flip over? She said OH k knowingly and asked if I wanted a HJ. I said full service. She asked how much and I said $. (I'm thinking I could've gotten cheaper in retrospect) She then went ahead and gave me a CBJ. After a min, she got on top of me, grinding me and moaning and I came in like 2 minutes.

Don't be too harsh on my review / amateurism. This was my first time.

I have a couple of amateur questions. Does anyone know the name of this chick? (I didn't ask) is there an etiquette of where you can cum when you get a HJ? Can you go for seconds?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Narby; 1492946]Bebe Spa.

For whatever reason I decided to go to this place I found from backpages / rubmaps. As soon as I stepped in the place, I was greeted by a beautiful viet chick about 5'3 120lbs and led straight into a room within 8 seconds tops. She asked if I was new and I said yea. I paid the 40$ house fee for hh and she told me to get undressed and lay on the bed and she left the room. As soon as she came back, she got on top of me and started massaging my back for a good 5-6 minutes. I started getting impatient and said can I flip over? She said OH k knowingly and asked if I wanted a HJ. I said full service. She asked how much and I said $. (I'm thinking I could've gotten cheaper in retrospect) She then went ahead and gave me a CBJ. After a min, she got on top of me, grinding me and moaning and I came in like 2 minutes.

Don't be too harsh on my review / amateurism. This was my first time.

I have a couple of amateur questions. Does anyone know the name of this chick? (I didn't ask) is there an etiquette of where you can cum when you get a HJ? Can you go for seconds?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Haha. 2 minutes a pop is way too fast. You need to take some pills to last a longer time.

Anyone have any good spas in Aanta Ana?

I'll be there all next week.

[QUOTE=Narby; 1492946]Bebe Spa.

For whatever reason I decided to go to this place I found from backpages / rubmaps. As soon as I stepped in the place, I was greeted by a beautiful viet chick about 5'3 120lbs and led straight into a room within 8 seconds tops. She asked if I was new and I said yea. I paid the 40$ house fee for hh and she told me to get undressed and lay on the bed and she left the room. As soon as she came back, she got on top of me and started massaging my back for a good 5-6 minutes. I started getting impatient and said can I flip over? She said OH k knowingly and asked if I wanted a HJ. I said full service. She asked how much and I said $. (I'm thinking I could've gotten cheaper in retrospect) She then went ahead and gave me a CBJ. After a min, she got on top of me, grinding me and moaning and I came in like 2 minutes.

Don't be too harsh on my review / amateurism. This was my first time.

I have a couple of amateur questions. Does anyone know the name of this chick? (I didn't ask) is there an etiquette of where you can cum when you get a HJ? Can you go for seconds?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Don't feel too bad about being quick on the draw, I'm the same. I need a lot of concentration to stay longer. That's why I don't do the FS spas anymore. Too interested in making me finish as quickly as possible. They don't usually allow for a second shot unless you pay extra, so make that one shot count!

Anyone know where Angel from SH in Westminster has opened mu pm her own foot / body shop.

[QUOTE=Narby; 1492946]Bebe Spa.

For whatever reason I decided to go to this place I found from backpages / rubmaps. As soon as I stepped in the place, I was greeted by a beautiful viet chick about 5'3 120lbs and led straight into a room within 8 seconds tops. She asked if I was new and I said yea. I paid the 40$ house fee for hh and she told me to get undressed and lay on the bed and she l.

Thanks[/QUOTE]But they insulted my old favorite porn star by hinting that she now came from Japan and provide massages!

[QUOTE=Asianonly;1493751]Anyone know where Angel from SH in Westminster has opened mu pm her own foot / body shop.[/QUOTE]Are you asking all over the net? I have been to most of the new ones and never seen her yet. I don't know anyone that has. We need some good luck with her.

Quick report on BC. I have been seeing ads on BP for this place and based on adds it was clearly a FS place. Thought I would TOFFT I went there early in the day and walked in and rang the bell. A cute little thing came to the counter and asked if I wanted massage? Paid $.4 for the half and was led into the first room. I undressed and noticed right off no cover towel provided. Took this as good sign number one. While laying there for about 3-5 I noticed a couple other things about this place. 1. Walls are paper thin. Not just room to room but shop to shop. I could clearly hear two guys talking in the store next door. Zero sound isolation. I could have spoken up and talked to them. Not good. I then started wondering who the provider would be. I had failed to ask if the girl from the front would be the massage girl. Turned out she was but I was thinking that I could have been victim to bait & switch. In retrospect maybe that would have been a good thing. Turns out the gal came in and asked if I wanted lotion or oil. Went with lotion. She put some on my back and went at it. She barely rubbed it in before she said flip. On the flip I reached out to reassure her and negotiations started. Wanted $1. 2 for FS. I countered with $ ended up caving to $.2 cause she was my type. Then wanted up front payment not usually something I will go with but did. She left for supplies and came back. Service was not spirited or exciting just more youth and lack of experience. During CG I thought the flapping body parts was possibly audible in the next shop. The getto blaster she turned on was their idea of noise isolation. She was tight for sure, but it didn't make up for the lack of passion. Finished and cleaned up. While getting dressed she came in to prep the room and did the straighten thing with the towel and didn't change it. Not good. On the way out she said come back we have lots of other girls. Clearly my thrill with this experience was shining through. My thought on this was just because she was young and decent looking it doesn't necessarily mean a good time. I would not recommend or will I return. To many better choices.

All three of these are within 200 yards of each other. So if your car breaks down on Brookhurst, pray that you are near here, LOL. I didn't have car issues but I had to do some biz for a couple days last week in Garden Grove.

I stopped at Holiday again. This time I saw Jackie. She was really cool and delivered as expected as complete experience. These guys are like the Walmart of MPs. They have a decent product and are high volume. Been there 3 times now and was never disappointed. They certainly aren't for the person who wants to have a slower relaxed session. They are respectful and fun but they are focused on getting you up, off and out. At least that is my experience. Don't go to #3 unless you are looking for less service.

12570 brookhurst st Suite # 4, garden grove, CA between lampson / stanford : (714).209-8023

This place is a little harder to find. I saw Cammy (sp?) She was the only girl when I went but about a 7 on the typical 10 scale of Latinas. She was nice enough but a slight hustle on the tip. (settled at 110) Probably won't return.

10045 Lampson ave Garden Grove, Orange, CA 92840 714. 678. 8235.

The last one is really hard to find with no signage. I called ahead but not sure if that is required. I saw Sara. She was at least an 8 on the Latina 10 scale. She had a rockin natural body and was intent on making me happy. Weird place but nice girl. I will definitely try this one again.

12440 Brookhurst, Garden Grove, CA. 92840 714 467 1233.

Reading the ads on backpage it seems that some of these and other MPs are somehow connected with each other. Or maybe they just have the same person placing ads for them. As always YMMV but these are my brief takes on some that I hit last week.

[QUOTE=Cash Value;1493960]Are you asking all over the net? I have been to most of the new ones and never seen her yet. I don't know anyone that has. We need some good luck with her.[/QUOTE]Yep.

Fiona still won't give info on Angel. Competition for money won't allow her to I guess.

I just started working at a company with an in-house masseuse. I figured it was legit and probably expensive so never asked about it. Turns out its free +tip and she is a looker to boot. Do any of you more seasoned veterans have some advice or opinions whether I should even bother and how to approach something like this. It feels way risky to try at my new job but she is just so hot I want to try anyway.

[QUOTE=Friendlylurker;1495726]I just started working at a company with an in-house masseuse. I figured it was legit and probably expensive so never asked about it. Turns out its free +tip and she is a looker to boot. Do any of you more seasoned veterans have some advice or opinions whether I should even bother and how to approach something like this. It feels way risky to try at my new job but she is just so hot I want to try anyway.[/QUOTE]I would try her for a legit massage and kind of feel around to see if there's any potential for something on the side. Don't risk your job over something you could do to yourself. There's hot women everywhere.

[QUOTE=Friendlylurker;1495726]I just started working at a company with an in-house masseuse. I figured it was legit and probably expensive so never asked about it. Turns out its free +tip and she is a looker to boot. Do any of you more seasoned veterans have some advice or opinions whether I should even bother and how to approach something like this. It feels way risky to try at my new job but she is just so hot I want to try anyway.[/QUOTE]Do the legit massage, and take care of yourself a few minutes later privately. Defintely don't do anything suggesting non-legit on the 1st one.

[QUOTE=Hags Joe;1495760]Do the legit massage, and take care of yourself a few minutes later privately. Definitely don't do anything suggesting non-legit on the 1st one.[/QUOTE]Since they provide on job, you are expected to make the moves. Be super aggressive. No towel or sheet on, as soon as possible run you hand and grasp her snatch.

If she runs out of the room, chase her down the hall (your boss likes to see you aggressive). Thrown her on the nearest desk and do FSBB, . She just objects to make it fun for you.

Its its a male on duty, you still are expected to do the same thing.

When you get to jail, call me and I will go to your boss and ask for your job.

[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1496247]Since they provide on job, you are expected to make the moves. Be super aggressive. No towel or sheet on, as soon as possible run you hand and grasp her snatch.

If she runs out of the room, chase her down the hall (your boss likes to see you aggressive). Thrown her on the nearest desk and do FSBB, . She just objects to make it fun for you.

Its its a male on duty, you still are expected to do the same thing.

When you get to jail, call me and I will go to your boss and ask for your job.[/QUOTE]Haha ok, ok, I get it. It may sound like a dumb question but hey, I'm young dumb and full of fun so I figured I'd ask you all. Thanks for the responses, I passed her in the hall yesterday and everthing about her reminds me of all the 'good' providers. Maybe when I have an office next to te boss I'll give it a shot LOL.

[QUOTE=Friendlylurker;1496286]Haha ok, ok, I get it. It may sound like a dumb question but hey, I'm young dumb and full of fun so I figured I'd ask you all. Thanks for the responses, I passed her in the hall yesterday and everthing about her reminds me of all the 'good' providers. Maybe when I have an office next to te boss I'll give it a shot LOL.[/QUOTE]The old adage "Don't shit where you eat" comes to mind. Best case, they discontinue the service because employees can't behave. Worst case you get fired for Harassment.

[QUOTE=Friendlylurker;1495726]I just started working at a company with an in-house masseuse. I figured it was legit and probably expensive so never asked about it. Turns out its free +tip and she is a looker to boot. Do any of you more seasoned veterans have some advice or opinions whether I should even bother and how to approach something like this. It feels way risky to try at my new job but she is just so hot I want to try anyway.[/QUOTE]Friendly, I think you already know the answer to your question, it is risky, make that extremely risky. Probably one of the reasons it is even more apealing / exciting. If your thoughts were to 'test the waters' in the way we normally do in our hobby with a new provider I can almost guarantee you will be looking for your next new job before the day is done. I say this assuming that if your new company has the resources to provide this type of service, they most likely have a staffed and competent HR department, which undoubtably would take a dim view of the situation. This comes from someone who has 20 years of experience in management at a Fortune 500 company. HR folks like nothing more than to hang some dudes ass out on the line for inappropriate behavior.

On the other hand if you approach her as you would any other civilian female you have an interest in you should be fine. Keep in mind however that if the interest is not recipricol on her part it could make for uncomfortable encounters down the road. Test her interest level, say hello and smile, find a common interest and / or friends. While there is very little anyone can do for being interested in a coworker (there are numerous court cases where companies have tried to prohibit these relationships. And lost) there are lots of hot babes that aren't a masseuse at work.

Good luck. Play safely, its a mine field in the workplace nowadays.

[QUOTE=Ocrealguy; 1496870]Friendly, I think you already know the answer to your question, it is risky, make that extremely risky. Probably one of the reasons it is even more apealing / exciting. If your thoughts were to 'test the waters' in the way we normally do in our hobby with a new provider I can almost guarantee you will be looking for your next new job before the day is done. I say this assuming that if your new company has the resources to provide this type of service, they most likely have a staffed and competent HR department, which undoubtably would take a dim view of the situation. This comes from someone who has 20 years of experience in management at a Fortune 500 company. HR folks like nothing more than to hang some dudes ass out on the line for inappropriate behavior.

On the other hand if you approach her as you would any other civilian female you have an interest in you should be fine. Keep in mind however that if the interest is not recipricol on her part it could make for uncomfortable encounters down the road. Test her interest level, say hello and smile, find a common interest and / or friends. While there is very little anyone can do for being interested in a coworker (there are numerous court cases where companies have tried to prohibit these relationships. And lost) there are lots of hot babes that aren't a masseuse at work.

Good luck. Play safely, its a mine field in the workplace nowadays.[/QUOTE]You of course need to play it safe. So ask for her phone number, and tell her you won't call her but will pass it along to your senior friends, if she is looking to make some out of office calls. If she asks USA or HX, then you know you have a winner.

You can find out where she works when she is not in your office, and schedule a massage there on your dime. Seriously, if she has an office, let me know the number and I will schedule an appointment with her and report back to you.

[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1497070]You of course need to play it safe. So ask for her phone number, and tell her you won't call her but will pass it along to your senior friends, if she is looking to make some out of office calls. If she asks USA or HX, then you know you have a winner.

You can find out where she works when she is not in your office, and schedule a massage there on your dime. Seriously, if she has an office, let me know the number and I will schedule an appointment with her and report back to you.[/QUOTE]I will definitely take this approach and report back to you guys how it goes. As far as the company, its not huge by any means and the one HR person actually got me hired, so I didn't tink it'd cause such a backlash at me haha. The bosses are all pretty young like me so the second I even heard there was a masseuse I thought the might be mongers too.

It's ok though either way, I just found out Lake Forest is full of AMPs and I am now minutes away from most of them!

So I went to a place off Sky Park the other week. Really I went looking for some of my old haunts but the were all gone. I decided to go to one I had seen for a while. Walked in and there was just 1 gal there. Nice looking with D Bolt on's. They looked better than they felt. Found that out later. I pay for the half and strip and lay down. Same gal comes in and starts talking and rubbing. Nice massage so far. I give the reach on the ass and get a great response of her moving into my hand more. I think great here we go. She asks me what I want and I tell her everything. She says ok be right back. I think great condom and tissues on there way. There I go thinking. No condom she says when she comes back and she pulls out the old selifane. Wow This is not a good way to start. But I go ahead. She does ok and then she looks at me and says are you ready. I say no condom she says I have 1 outside. Go get it lady. Jeeze. Off she goes again and back with a condom. Alright here we go. She wants to start mission and I am fine with that. I want to switch to C. G. And she starts saying stuff. I then start to get a little upset and say to her It is my 30 min. Don't I get any say in this. She says fine but really there is no effort from her. So back to mission and I decide I want doggy. She says no way and I say fine give me my $1 back and I will be out. By this point I am starting to not hold up very well. She decides ok we will so I decide she is going to get a couple fingers in her star as well when I cum. I do my best and blow a good on and give her the 2 thumbs up at the same time just to make sure she understands. So she says she does not do that and I should pay more. I tell her to pay me because she was not worth it. Overall she was good looking but very bad attitude and very boring. I will not go again to that spot upstairs but hey Y. R. M. V.

Since my horrendously bad experience in Brea a couple months ago, I no longer pay the "Tip" in advance. I make it very clear I will pay them well, for good service. If they don't accept my position, I walk. This hobby is all about good service from the provider and what "normal fare", is expected on the menu, (Mish, RCG, CG 69, and Doggy). I let them know what I like, so If they're unable to acquiesce to most of my proclivities, then the sexual adventure part of the session is over. From that point, I expect either a full-on therapeutic treatment for the rest of the session, With appropriate standard gratuity, (15 dollars) or full refund.

Baggens.

[QUOTE=Rayle;1498415]So I went to a place off Sky Park the other week. Really I went looking for some of my old haunts but the were all gone. I decided to go to one I had seen for a while. Walked in and there was just 1 gal there. Nice looking with D Bolt on's. They looked better than they felt. Found that out later. I pay for the half and strip and lay down. Same gal comes in and starts talking and rubbing. Nice massage so far. I give the reach on the ass and get a great response of her moving into my hand more. I think great here we go. She asks me what I want and I tell her everything. She says ok be right back. I think great condom and tissues on there way. There I go thinking. No condom she says when she comes back and she pulls out the old selifane. Wow This is not a good way to start. But I go ahead. She does ok and then she looks at me and says are you ready. I say no condom she says I have 1 outside. Go get it lady. Jeeze. Off she goes again and back with a condom. Alright here we go. She wants to start mission and I am fine with that. I want to switch to C. G. And she starts saying stuff. I then start to get a little upset and say to her It is my 30 min. Don't I get any say in this. She says fine but really there is no effort from her. So back to mission and I decide I want doggy. She says no way and I say fine give me my $1 back and I will be out. By this point I am starting to not hold up very well. She decides ok we will so I decide she is going to get a couple fingers in her star as well when I cum. I do my best and blow a good on and give her the 2 thumbs up at the same time just to make sure she understands. So she says she does not do that and I should pay more. I tell her to pay me because she was not worth it. Overall she was good looking but very bad attitude and very boring. I will not go again to that spot upstairs but hey Y. R. M. V.[/QUOTE]

Exactly as Baggens said. Soon as you let go of your benjies, you're not in the driver's seat anymore. Agree on what you're going to pay and what you expect up front. That's OK, but so as far as I'm concerned, it's service first, pay last, just like in a restaurant. If you order a steak and they bring you chicken feet or nothing at all, would you pay for it and tip the waiter too? I wouldn't. If service is really crap or far short of what was agreed to up front, I wouldn't pay a dime's worth of tip and wouldn't be shy about walking outa there and asking for a refund. Also, if you mention that you expect good service and she gives you a frown, like happened to me two weeks ago, that's your queue to get the hell out or switch girls. Every time I've disregarded my own rules (which is way too many times lately) I've walked out disappointed, with a frown, an empty wallet and kicked myself in the ass later.

What puzzles me is service used to be so much better back in the old days, like 80's & 90's, when the economy wasn't in the tank quite like today. Prices were higher, yes, but you got what you were there for. I don't get where these broads are coming from with these 'holier that thou' attitudes.

[QUOTE=Dildo Baggens; 1498940]Since my horrendously bad experience in Brea a couple months ago, I no longer pay the "Tip" in advance. I make it very clear I will pay them well, for good service. If they don't accept my position, I walk. This hobby is all about good service from the provider and what "normal fare", is expected on the menu, (Mish, RCG, CG 69, and Doggy). I let them know what I like, so If they're unable to acquiesce to most of my proclivities, then the sexual adventure part of the session is over. From that point, I expect either a full-on therapeutic treatment for the rest of the session, With appropriate standard gratuity, (15 dollars) or full refund.

Baggens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Assaholic; 1499329]Exactly as Baggens said. Soon as you let go of your benjies, you're not in the driver's seat anymore. Agree on what you're going to pay and what you expect up front. That's OK, but so as far as I'm concerned, it's service first, pay last, just like in a restaurant. If you order a steak and they bring you chicken feet or nothing at all, would you pay for it and tip the waiter too? I wouldn't. If service is really crap or far short of what was agreed to up front, I wouldn't pay a dime's worth of tip and wouldn't be shy about walking outa there and asking for a refund. Also, if you mention that you expect good service and she gives you a frown, like happened to me two weeks ago, that's your queue to get the hell out or switch girls. Every time I've disregarded my own rules (which is way too many times lately) I've walked out disappointed, with a frown, an empty wallet and kicked myself in the ass later.

What puzzles me is service used to be so much better back in the old days, like 80's & 90's, when the economy wasn't in the tank quite like today. Prices were higher, yes, but you got what you were there for. I don't get where these broads are coming from with these 'holier that thou' attitudes.[/QUOTE]Don't take this personally (well, take it personally) but maybe in the 80's you were a handsome man, with hair, no pot belly, all your teeth, etc.

The 70's were the best, as then I was a handsome man, and before aids. Always a GFE

I tell you what it is, it's Helicopter Moms and a born sense of entitlement!

Baggens.

[QUOTE=Assaholic; 1499329]What puzzles me is service used to be so much better back in the old days, like 80's & 90's, when the economy wasn't in the tank quite like today. Prices were higher, yes, but you got what you were there for. I don't get where these broads are coming from with these 'holier that thou' attitudes.

Good points and kudos to you for reading between the lines. At least I don't have to worry about hair. Didn't have it then, still don't and am absolutely lovin' it. About pot belly-Well that's a depressing subject I'd rather not visit right now; (But hey, who needs a full head of hair and six pack abs to have a little fun after a hard week's work, right? Besides, have you seen these so called providers on BP? Some of them look like some creature out of a horror movie. Compared to them, setting aside gender, I'm a goddam GQ model for chissake, LOL.

Wish I had been around in the 70's. Sounds like memorable times.

[QUOTE=FunTrust; 1499592]Don't take this personally (well, take it personally) but maybe in the 80's you were a handsome man, with hair, no pot belly, all your teeth, etc.

The 70's were the best, as then I was a handsome man, and before aids. Always a GFE[/QUOTE]

Anybody been to 101 on Muirlands recently? That was my go to place all last year before a couple of the girls left and the service started going downhill early this year. Recently, I've been back a few times, and I think its started to improve again. In addition to Shannon, who's been there awhile, tried Sophia and Ysa. Had very good experiences with both. There seem to be some a couple of other new girls there now and the MMS called me a few days ago to let me know they have yet another one who just started or is about to. I saw a very cute one the other day by the front desk when I walked in. Very petite. 30's maybe, but very curvy ass and nice rack. But she bolted asa I walked in for my appt and couldn't get her name since my girl was standing there. Any recommendations on girls you've tried there who provide good service.

Also, I've been having very good luck at the foot massage places on Westminster (Angel) and Brookhurst (5 Star). But just discovered a new one that I like even better. It is totally legit because there are no private rooms, but the girls are much younger and hotter. And I've hooked up with one of them outside of the business. She did some touching when massaging my thighs in the semi-private rooms, although nothing else could be done. So once I realized her willingness, I asked her if she was available for outside appointments. Was reluctant at first, but after a couple of visits, ended up getting a room near there and meeting her on her day off, since they work until 10 there. I realize that many of you don't want to go through the hassle of that. But, for me, having to work for it made it a lot more rewarding. Since then, have hooked up a couple of more times and working on a similar situation with a girl that just started 2 weeks ago. I've been talking to the first one to see if she can get another girl interested in a 2 on 1, since a lot of them either live together or carpool together. Told her I'd make it worth their while. She mentioned one who might be, but I passed on that one. But she said she will talk to one of her friends who works at another location. Anyway, this is new territory for me, but kind of exciting.

Meant Heavenly, not Angel. LOL.

[QUOTE=OCSwordsman; 1499820]Anybody been to 101 on Muirlands recently? That was my go to place all last year before a couple of the girls left and the service started going downhill early this year. Recently, I've been back a few times, and I think its started to improve again. In addition to Shannon, who's been there awhile, tried Sophia and Ysa. Had very good experiences with both. There seem to be some a couple of other new girls there now and the MMS called me a few days ago to let me know they have yet another one who just started or is about to. I saw a very cute one the other day by the front desk when I walked in. Very petite. 30's maybe, but very curvy ass and nice rack. But she bolted asa I walked in for my appt and couldn't get her name since my girl was standing there. Any recommendations on girls you've tried there who provide good service.

Also, I've been having very good luck at the foot massage places on Westminster (Angel) and Brookhurst (5 Star). But just discovered a new one that I like even better. It is totally legit because there are no private rooms, but the girls are much younger and hotter. And I've hooked up with one of them outside of the business. She did some touching when massaging my thighs in the semi-private rooms, although nothing else could be done. So once I realized her willingness, I asked her if she was available for outside appointments. Was reluctant at first, but after a couple of visits, ended up getting a room near there and meeting her on her day off, since they work until 10 there. I realize that many of you don't want to go through the hassle of that. But, for me, having to work for it made it a lot more rewarding. Since then, have hooked up a couple of more times and working on a similar situation with a girl that just started 2 weeks ago. I've been talking to the first one to see if she can get another girl interested in a 2 on 1, since a lot of them either live together or carpool together. Told her I'd make it worth their while. She mentioned one who might be, but I passed on that one. But she said she will talk to one of her friends who works at another location. Anyway, this is new territory for me, but kind of exciting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OCSwordsman; 1499820]Anybody been to 101 on Muirlands recently? That was my go to place all last year before a couple of the girls left and the service started going downhill early this year. Recently, I've been back a few times, and I think its started to improve again. In addition to Shannon, who's been there awhile, tried Sophia and Ysa. Had very good experiences with both. There seem to be some a couple of other new girls there now and the MMS called me a few days ago to let me know they have yet another one who just started or is about to. I saw a very cute one the other day by the front desk when I walked in. Very petite. 30's maybe, but very curvy ass and nice rack. But she bolted asa I walked in for my appt and couldn't get her name since my girl was standing there. Any recommendations on girls you've tried there who provide good service.

Yeah ever since sophia got jaded I kinda backed off the place. These is this one skinny older with super long hair thats not bad. I havnt seen any of the new ones. Guess I should go check it out again. See what they have now.

Also, I've been having very good luck at the foot massage places on Westminster (Angel) and Brookhurst (5 Star). But just discovered a new one that I like even better. It is totally legit because there are no private rooms, but the girls are much younger and hotter. And I've hooked up with one of them outside of the business. She did some touching when massaging my thighs in the semi-private rooms, although nothing else could be done. So once I realized her willingness, I asked her if she was available for outside appointments. Was reluctant at first, but after a couple of visits, ended up getting a room near there and meeting her on her day off, since they work until 10 there. I realize that many of you don't want to go through the hassle of that. But, for me, having to work for it made it a lot more rewarding. Since then, have hooked up a couple of more times and working on a similar situation with a girl that just started 2 weeks ago. I've been talking to the first one to see if she can get another girl interested in a 2 on 1, since a lot of them either live together or carpool together. Told her I'd make it worth their while. She mentioned one who might be, but I passed on that one. But she said she will talk to one of her friends who works at another location. Anyway, this is new territory for me, but kind of exciting.[/QUOTE]So why do you hit angel foot spa? SH is in the same complex and they have some pvt rooms. Plus angel you don't get naked right? SH you take your clothes off. If I'm missing something msg me I guess. SH had hotty michelle but she recently left. But they still have jenny and tracey.

Meant Heavenly Spa, not Angel. Just got them confused for a second, when I was typing since have been to both. And yes, can take clothes off in Heavenly with at least some, maybe most of the girls.

The legit one I was talking about is called One by One on Westminster. Started going there just because thru train the girls and many actually give really good massages for $15.

[QUOTE=Cash Value;1500182]So why do you hit angel foot spa? SH is in the same complex and they have some pvt rooms. Plus angel you don't get naked right? SH you take your clothes off. If I'm missing something msg me I guess. SH had hotty michelle but she recently left. But they still have jenny and tracey.[/QUOTE]

Finally got around to trying Belle Vie today. Read lots of reviews with varying results, so I've been a tad reluctant. I am not the kind of guy who likes getting shut out, even if it's just the first time, but my back has been stiff for a few days and after an early morning session down at San Onofre, I needed a massage. I therefore thought today would be a good time to get shut out if I had to, as long as I got a good massage in the bargain.

The girl at reception asked if I minded trying a girl on her first day there. Normally I don't like that much, but I thought she'd be easier to bs if the old "been here before" conversation happened. It did, and she was.

Really nice sweet Chinese girl from Bay area named Amy. She is not a model for sure, but she is cute, has a great personality that is both self-assured and sweet (giggly). Interesting combination. She's probably late 20's, short hair, nice "B" cups (which she doesn't like touched) and a rockin' little body. Gave a great massage, which is good because that's what I needed.

When the flip came, the conversation got a little strange. We both knew what we were talking about, but neither understood exactly what the other was saying. She asked what kind of tip I was planning on leaving which is a novel approach. I finally just took the towel covering Dangle Jr. And threw it on the floor and she was satisfied.

She continued with the massage, and eventually got around to the HE. She was skilled if a bit mechanical, and was a little surprised I took as long as I did (always do). She said she was just over-comfident in her abilities. She is definitely no rookie, and she knows where all the pleasure points are for sure. She doesn't mind if you play with her sweet little butt outside her clothes, but that's about it.

All in all, I really liked her and will definitely repeat at some point. She works Mondays and Tuesdays.

Saw another girl in the hall when I was leaving that is more what I'm used to seeing at parlors. Didn't get her name, but she was seriously hot: tall, long black hair, nasty look in her eye. May have to investigate.

Thought I'd chime in on Belle Vie, since I've been there a few times over the last six weeks, twice with Eva (not the same as once at Holiday) and then with a petite and very tight Vietnamese, whose name I've dropped from memory. My experience pretty much matches JD's. The massages are very good, and they prefer to do the full hour, which is fine and more professional in my opinion. Eva in particular was a pleasure to be rubbed by, especially the second time. In both cases and I suspect generally, you are not going to get their wrappings off, but a caress or two doesn't seem to bother them near the ending. I'll be going back when I need that particular service.

[QUOTE=Johnny Dangle; 1501250]Finally got around to trying Belle Vie today.

[QUOTE=Fistfirst; 1501710]Thought I'd chime in on Belle Vie, since I've been there a few times over the last six weeks, twice with Eva (not the same as once at Holiday) and then with a petite and very tight Vietnamese, whose name I've dropped from memory. My experience pretty much matches JD's. The massages are very good, and they prefer to do the full hour, which is fine and more professional in my opinion. Eva in particular was a pleasure to be rubbed by, especially the second time. In both cases and I suspect generally, you are not going to get their wrappings off, but a caress or two doesn't seem to bother them near the ending. I'll be going back when I need that particular service.

[QUOTE=Johnny Dangle; 1501250]Finally got around to trying Belle Vie today.[/QUOTE]My plans for tonite.

On-Target Shooting range then massage at Belle Vie.