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		Hpv 
		[QUOTE=Ride00;2914810]I stopped seeing Lisa due to HPV concerns. Do your self a favor and get tested. Too much stuff is out their you can take elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I remember reading some years ago that 98% of sexually  active men have HPV. It's so common that I assume most guys have it or have had it. If I remember correctly it kinna hides in men and basically has no affect on us whatsoever. 
 
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		Hpv 
		[QUOTE=SevenIron;2915253]After reading your post, I googled HPV. So, for all who may be interested to know, this is what I discovered. This is from the CDC. Gov web site:
 
 1. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women will get this at one point in their lives.
 
 2. In most cases HPV goes away on its own.
 
 3. There is no test to find out a person's HPV status.
 
 Its all there and more for anyone interested, read it for yourselves. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants or anything, Just saying. Peace brother.[/QUOTE]I guess you missed the part about cervical, anal and vaginal cancer are caused by HPV?
 
 HPV causes 70% of all cervical cancer in women. Also causes 80% of anal cancer.
 
 79 million Americans have and 14 million more will get it each year.
 
 Safe sax is our only protection as adults. Frequent flyers and providers are at a much great risk in any case.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=Ride00;2915567]I guess you missed the part about cervical, anal and vaginal cancer are caused by HPV?
 
 HPV causes 70% of all cervical cancer in women. Also causes 80% of anal cancer.
 
 79 million Americans have and 14 million more will get it each year.
 
 Safe sax is our only protection as adults. Frequent flyers and providers are at a much great risk in any case.[/QUOTE]This is good info, but I'm confused on what it had to do with little lisa and not all people having a lot of sex.
 
 
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		Lisa / HPV 
		[QUOTE=Ride00;2915567]I guess you missed the part about cervical, anal and vaginal cancer are caused by HPV?
 
 HPV causes 70% of all cervical cancer in women. Also causes 80% of anal cancer.
 
 79 million Americans have and 14 million more will get it each year.
 
 Safe sax is our only protection as adults. Frequent flyers and providers are at a much great risk in any case.[/QUOTE]I'm hip to the safe sex brother. And I say amen to that. You see, I proudly severed in several Asian countries during the 1970's and 1980's while I was a member of the USA Army. Before we were allowed to exit camp and go to the nearby village, we "HAD TO" pick up several condoms from our first kick. He kept an entire gross of them on his desk, I shit you not, a frigging gross. And that gross was replenished weekly. I believe that I am savvy enough and old enough to know all about "safe sex". I also believe the other members on the board are as well. Its quite often a topic of discussion here.
 
 Now I'm sure you that I perhaps misconstrued your remarks to be somewhat preachy. If I did misinterpret them, I meant no offense in my remarks. I just wanted to edify that you are perhaps preaching to the proverbial choir here.
 
 
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		Woe is me. 
		My 2 utr vcu girls are gone for the summer, my 3 longtime reliable providers are flaking (Sarah is stealing, Gina is hard to contact and has stood me up twice in a week and Pam. Don't get me started) and I'm just not willing to do Andrea again. There is always Lisa but I need to get working on finding some new and reliable girls to see me through the summer without breaking the bank. I'm a big Layla fan but can't drop that much cash 2 or 3 times a week. I'm sure it will be fine but for now I'm feeling a bit backed up. Am I the only one feeling some pressure? 
 
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		Inbox 
		VAguy13 please clean out your in box so I can PM you back. 
 
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		[QUOTE=JayBird76;2915700]This is good info, but I'm confused on what it had to do with little lisa and not all people having a lot of sex.[/QUOTE]Some girls are known as a high volume provider. Then you have the mongers who like to give details on their encounters. As they say the proof is in the pudding. A while back we lost a very good provider due to cervical cancer. Only a hand full of us knew she was FS. She did give the best massage in town. Since her passing I have stay in contact with her family, her two sons especially. My point is to make sure people know the risks. I don't think any of us want to leave a child parent less. I've seen too many beautiful women fall victim to cervical / anal cancer that could be traced back to risky behavior and / or HPV. I've said what needs to be said. Remember be safe. 
 
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		Little Lisa 
		[QUOTE=Ride00;2916207]Some girls are known as a high volume provider. Then you have the mongers who like to give details on their encounters. As they say the proof is in the pudding. A while back we lost a very good provider due to cervical cancer. Only a hand full of us knew she was FS. She did give the best massage in town. Since her passing I have stay in contact with her family, her two sons especially. My point is to make sure people know the risks. I don't think any of us want to leave a child parent less. I've seen too many beautiful women fall victim to cervical / anal cancer that could be traced back to risky behavior and / or HPV. I've said what needs to be said. Remember be safe.[/QUOTE]I saw Lisa last week after some recommendations from SM, she is very petite and I had a thought she might be sick or something. I wasnt sure if she is ok and after all these reports I am skeptical now.
 
 Everything was covered BJ only and I left didn't want to stay there any longer. Now I am worried should I visit clinic to get checked?
 
 
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		Stay safe 
		[QUOTE=Ride00;2916207]Some girls are known as a high volume provider. Then you have the mongers who like to give details on their encounters. As they say the proof is in the pudding. A while back we lost a very good provider due to cervical cancer. Only a hand full of us knew she was FS. She did give the best massage in town. Since her passing I have stay in contact with her family, her two sons especially. My point is to make sure people know the risks. I don't think any of us want to leave a child parent less. I've seen too many beautiful women fall victim to cervical / anal cancer that could be traced back to risky behavior and / or HPV. I've said what needs to be said. Remember be safe.[/QUOTE]Ride, very well stated. In a changing world.
 
 There is much to be lost by more than one person.
 
 For not being safe!
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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		Lisa / HPV concerns 
		I've never seen Lisa but I would like to know if the concern from her is related to HSV rather than HPV.
 
 I have looked into being tested for HPV but all I find are articles related to Pap smears for women and nothing for men. How would one go about being tested since there are so many variants of HPV?
 
 On another note, I know that we now have Gardasil shots that can prevent 60% of cervical cancers and 90% of genital warts. Also heard about a new updated version of this vaccine coming out soon that will up the percentages.
 
 
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		Little Lisa 
		[QUOTE=Vince2000;2916379]I saw Lisa last week after some recommendations from SM, she is very petite and I had a thought she might be sick or something. I wasnt sure if she is ok and after all these reports I am skeptical now.
 
 Everything was covered BJ only and I left didn't want to stay there any longer. Now I am worried should I visit clinic to get checked?[/QUOTE]I have seen Lisa a few times recently and haven't had any problems. I know what it was that supposedly she might have had and I haven't shown any signs of that being the case. Someone posted earlier that he went to the doctor to be checked out and the results were negative. You know if you spread these rumors it ends up hurting their business and she has always been a good provider. I hate to see her business being hurt by people spreading rumors that are not based in fact.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=BiffSteel;2916482]I have seen Lisa a few times recently and haven't had any problems. I know what it was that supposedly she might have had and I haven't shown any signs of that being the case. Someone posted earlier that he went to the doctor to be checked out and the results were negative. You know if you spread these rumors it ends up hurting their business and she has always been a good provider. I hate to see her business being hurt by people spreading rumors that are not based in fact.[/QUOTE]I would like to 2nd this. The 1st alert came from a member who had seen her and one other non-pro. He was having symptoms. I had just seen Lisa, so I went for a test which came back negative. That was a few weeks ago. I think Lisa sees a lot of guys and to my knowledge no one since has shown any adverse symptoms.
 
 I never did, I just went to be tested as a precaution.
 
 Bottom line: while none of us can say for sure that anyone is safe, there's no evidence that Lisa ever had anything and no reason not to see her. She's a little older and very tiny, but I've never thought that she's shown any signs of sickness.
 
 
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		[QUOTE=RichmondGuy;2916509]I would like to 2nd this. The 1st alert came from a member who had seen her and one other non-pro. He was having symptoms. I had just seen Lisa, so I went for a test which came back negative. That was a few weeks ago. I think Lisa sees a lot of guys and to my knowledge no one since has shown any adverse symptoms.
 
 I never did, I just went to be tested as a precaution.
 
 Bottom line: while none of us can say for sure that anyone is safe, there's no evidence that Lisa ever had anything and no reason not to see her. She's a little older and very tiny, but I've never thought that she's shown any signs of sickness.[/QUOTE]That was me. I meant no ill will towards Lisa, I just wanted what was going on to be on her regulars radar. Fortunately in my case it was easy to narrow down the source.
 
 
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		Tag team play 
		So me and a homie ended up tag teaming one of the chix I posted on here a few weeks ago. Was decent. Good ol fun. Ended with two facials and sum video. Was cool. 
 
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		Another one 
		[QUOTE=Fixter;2915374]New UTR needs help today for rent. Lives in Quinton and you would have to pick her up. Will go where you want and do what you want. I have digits.[/QUOTE]I have another UTR I met in Fburg today. My post is on the Fburg massage forum. Just a heads up for those wiiling to travel. Would be nice if someone reciprocated. That's 2 I shared. .