Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3372775]I don't think this is a knee-jerk bust. They were probably under investigation for quite awhile with plenty of evidence gathered for a successful prosecution (electronic surveillance, unpaid taxes on revenue, money laundering, parties willing to testify for the prosecution, RICO violations, Mann Act violations, etc). I think a big part is if the prosecution has parties willing to testify. I'd bet a few mongerers were captured on video surveillance too, lol. Most likely the owners will have their property seized and financial accounts frozen pending outcome of trial.[/QUOTE]It looks like the new focus for uncle LEO is the owners and less on the providers. It can't be that difficult for the prosecutors to get providers to testify against ownership. Isn't that what the Feds did to Ivy at Empire?

[QUOTE=FCH300;3371260]Thanks for speaking up DaaBoy. I didn't want either a war or a rep for bad info on the board. Appreciate you taking me off the hook![/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing the info up. I'm just frustrated going to a MP thinking that the girl was somewhat close to the BP ad only. To find out otherwise. At least the Honolulu boards are filled with info compared to some of the mainland ones. Trust in the Hood and Be Safe!

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3372775]I don't think this is a knee-jerk bust. They were probably under investigation for quite awhile with plenty of evidence gathered for a successful prosecution. [/QUOTE]That sounds about right. The fact that the arrest took place following an Oahu grand jury indictment of the owner indicate it as so. Sounds similar to the Gogo case.

Is it me, or has there been a lot of CC Thai massage places changing rooms lately. (owners and ladies also?) While some phone numbers stayed the same, their recommending girls in other rooms. Mena in 2701 (or was?) whos on temporary leave, referred me to Spaya Thai instead of one of the other ladies in her room. I also remember something similar about 2 weeks ago, when I called one of the other regular places, (same business name and number) -person answering phone didn't know any girl I mentioned from that room.

[QUOTE=HappySeeker8;3374370]Is it me, or has there been a lot of CC Thai massage places changing rooms lately. (owners and ladies also?) While some phone numbers stayed the same, their recommending girls in other rooms. Mena in 2701 (or was?) whos on temporary leave, referred me to Spaya Thai instead of one of the other ladies in her room. I also remember something similar about 2 weeks ago, when I called one of the other regular places, (same business name and number) -person answering phone didn't know any girl I mentioned from that room.[/QUOTE]I also see "Thai" advertising as room 2701 now. I thought she was head of a room on 24th floor?

[QUOTE=Blake123;3373432]That sounds about right. The fact that the arrest took place following an Oahu grand jury indictment of the owner indicate it as so. Sounds similar to the Gogo case.[/QUOTE]Remember also, there has to be convincing evidence presented to a grand jury, to get an indictment. So you guys are right-its not a knee jerk thing, its evidence built up over time.

[QUOTE=HappySeeker8;3374370]Is it me, or has there been a lot of CC Thai massage places changing rooms lately. (owners and ladies also?) While some phone numbers stayed the same, their recommending girls in other rooms. Mena in 2701 (or was?) whos on temporary leave, referred me to Spaya Thai instead of one of the other ladies in her room. I also remember something similar about 2 weeks ago, when I called one of the other regular places, (same business name and number) -person answering phone didn't know any girl I mentioned from that room.[/QUOTE]I have a studio in CC. I see a lot of comings and goings. Management here is not the best but the trade off is you are 1-2 minutes from a lot of spas. From what I can tell most owners all know each other and trade personnel like baseball teams trade players. If you stay on top of things its like following a baseball team. You get to know all the players even if there are lots of trades. In the end, don't stress over it. Just find a good place and stick with it. Eventually personnel will rotate out, but some stick around for years while others are just visitors. I used to engage in conversations and get their story, such as visiting from Korea for Japan for 3 months, going to college, etc. Most are lies and covers so I stopped asking questions. I really like the location even though it takes a long time to get stuff fixed. Just far enough away from Waikiki and also just close enough. You would think with being in CC I'd be going to a spa every day but its more like once every week or two, often later at night when I'm lonely or can't sleep. One time I got a discount for going to Sam's club to pick up some supplies. My impression is these place are well managed and somehow have connection with the landlord. Even with good English I get mixed messages. Like I said, none of my business and probably best I don't know.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3374748]I have a studio in CC. I see a lot of comings and goings. Management here is not the best but the trade off is you are 1-2 minutes from a lot of spas. From what I can tell most owners all know each other and trade personnel like baseball teams trade players. If you stay on top of things its like following a baseball team. You get to know all the players even if there are lots of trades. In the end, don't stress over it. Just find a good place and stick with it. Eventually personnel will rotate out, but some stick around for years while others are just visitors. I used to engage in conversations and get their story, such as visiting from Korea for Japan for 3 months, going to college, etc. Most are lies and covers so I stopped asking questions. I really like the location even though it takes a long time to get stuff fixed. Just far enough away from Waikiki and also just close enough. You would think with being in CC I'd be going to a spa every day but its more like once every week or two, often later at night when I'm lonely or can't sleep. One time I got a discount for going to Sam's club to pick up some supplies. My impression is these place are well managed and somehow have connection with the landlord. Even with good English I get mixed messages. Like I said, none of my business and probably best I don't know.[/QUOTE]Wow, you have a place in CC? So convenient LOL All you got to do is take a few flights up or down. Lucky you. I'd probably be like you and go at least once a week.

I had to go back 7 pages to figure out CC is Century Center, where I found post #32591, and then I had to do an Internet search to learn Century Center is a condominium rather than, for example, a section of Honolulu or a shopping center. It seems users of this web site over-use abbreviations. "CC" does not appear in the list of abbreviations on this web site, including regional abbreviations.

Still too many rumors here now.

For all please share information that you know.

Not VIP this time, but I heard of another place bust.

Still rumor. Not confirmed yet.

[QUOTE=RoloMyOlo;3374782]Wow, you have a place in CC? So convenient LOL All you got to do is take a few flights up or down. Lucky you. I'd probably be like you and go at least once a week.[/QUOTE]One of the major problems with these forums are all the newbies and mis-classifications of putting things where they do not belong.

Century Center Thai Massage locations are not Massage Parlors. Don't get me wrong, there are Massage Parlors (AMP's) in CC, but the Thai establishments are based on massage and should be placed in the thread for "Massage Therapists". Let's try to get on the same page here!

If we continue to create new thread every time there is a new place or a consolidation of resources to create a new place, we are feeding into the deception.

What are we looking for? If it is a massage with HE, or more, it is pretty simple; it is a "Massage Therapist". If more, it is a "Massage Parlor". If we are looking for a good massage with or without HE, let's focus on the thread titled "Massage Therapists". Why complicate a simple process! Let's work together here!

There are also "Escorts", which are mostly independent and it all becomes more complicated.

Quick recap:

Massage Parlors = AMP's.

Massage Therapists = a good massage with HE.

Independents = Backpage / Craigslist Escorts and Massage.

Let's try to help each other and the providers and stop complicating matters!

My 2 cents.

CS.

[QUOTE=CloeStone;3375050]One of the major problems with these forums are all the newbies and mis-classifications of putting things where they do not belong. ....
Massage Therapists = a good massage with HE. .... My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Settling on definitions can be difficult. I know a massage therapist who bristles at the suggestion a "massage therapist" does anything sexual, including hand jobs. By "therapeutic" people who do massage seem to mean "non-sexual. " However, I consider hand jobs to be therapeutic, since in some studies frequent ejaculation reduces prostate cancer risk.

[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;3375290]Settling on definitions can be difficult. I know a massage therapist who bristles at the suggestion a "massage therapist" does anything sexual, including hand jobs. By "therapeutic" people who do massage seem to mean "non-sexual. " However, I consider hand jobs to be therapeutic, since in some studies frequent ejaculation reduces prostate cancer risk.[/QUOTE]What Mr. Stone is describing is the custom and practice of the HAWAII mongers in this forum, not a "technical" definition. We are not "settling" on anything, for those of us who have been here for years now, these are pretty firm standards.

Much Mahalos to Mr. Stone for setting things straight.

BJ.

[QUOTE=BJHawaii;3375527]What Mr. Stone is describing is the custom and practice of the HAWAII mongers in this forum, not a "technical" definition. We are not "settling" on anything, for those of us who have been here for years now, these are pretty firm standards.

Much Mahalos to Mr. Stone for setting things straight.

BJ.[/QUOTE]And it appears, based on past forum posts, both Param Ahmad and Looking For Lefty may not be permanent Hawaii residents as most of their posts are for forums in other locales around the country, and even internationally. I did only a quick check so I may not have gotten all this correct. Others may follow up.

[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;3374794]I had to go back 7 pages to figure out CC is Century Center, where I found post #32591, and then I had to do an Internet search to learn Century Center is a condominium rather than, for example, a section of Honolulu or a shopping center. It seems users of this web site over-use abbreviations. "CC" does not appear in the list of abbreviations on this web site, including regional abbreviations.[/QUOTE]Or you can ask someone; usually the guys will answer. These places have been mentioned so heavily over a period of years that they are abbreviated in posts.

Similarly, CS is Century Square in downtown Honolulu; EC is Executive Center, just down the street from CS; EG is Evergreen, the 4 am bar on Kapiolani Boulevard, etc.