You Want Lower Prices? You Want Better Services? Stop Overpaying!
[QUOTE=Powerhouse100;5792847]These girls have finally figured it out. If fools are going to pay any and everything moving a $100 minimum for a qv and if they see at least 2 clients a day, that's $200 per day for only 30 minutes of work. Why would anyone want to see dozens of strange dicks when you can make money like this. It's a no-brainer for them; especially for low skilled workers. Those who say it's my money and I pay what I want also contributes to the problem. Once a provider makes her 200, as stated above, which means only seeing 2 clients that day, they are out of the rotation until perhaps the next day. Of course, if we stick to a reasonable donation of 60 for qv, it'll force them to see more clients per day; there is already a supply and demand problem. More clients and very little providers. I don't see this happening with the desperate. To begin with, many of these girls don't even like sex and it is their mission to work less, yet, get more of our dollars. They can be very lazy, in other words. At any rate, the hobby, as we knew it, is destroyed! Might as well find a new hobby with less frustration, I suppose. Also, keep in mind, these girls can get more than 100 texts / calls per day. The odds are stacked against those who want some strange! LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree wise Powerhouse – too many guys are paying whatever the providers ask. Not only on STG but on all media such as Tryst – guys seem to think they have to pay the asking price.
Fellow mongers please stop agreeing to these high asking donations. Understand as Powerhouse pointed out, when you overpay it causes consequences like decrease in the providers' services, lack of response to texts, poor services, etc. , and that all leads to you overpaying even more and more consequences!
Negotiate. Negotiate. Negotiate.
If you cannot negotiate, then at least offer the provider 10 coins less and say that is all you have. Remember, providers need your coins, they pay the room by the day and have food and candy needs, so they need your coins. Why have so many providers quit posting? If they say no too often, then they become homeless and you will find them walking along Phillips, etc. These providers cannot last by saying no if you offer them fewer coins. Whatever she ask for qv or hh – offer her 10 or 20 coins less.
Stop Feeding the Trolls, GibbyHaynes and his other worthless handles
Guys. When you see someone like GibbyHaynes with little to no posts, and none of them make sense or have any value, realize it's the same loser that went by MyTinyDick, DirtyDianesWig, DirtyDiane, YourLying, YourLying2, and now GibbyHaynes. He had a few others and they all keep getting banned. Just ignore that loser, as nothing they ever say has any value at all, and he's just trying to get you to respond. He's an absolute waste of everything! Ignore those types!
Soft under belly interviews
Just curious due to the choice of hobbyists here, anyone watch the interviews from the soft under belly?
Please leave the negotiations to the low quality girls
[QUOTE=LowBaller;5793382]I agree wise Powerhouse too many guys are paying whatever the providers ask. Not only on STG but on all media such as Tryst guys seem to think they have to pay the asking price.
Fellow mongers please stop agreeing to these high asking donations. Understand as Powerhouse pointed out, when you overpay it causes consequences like decrease in the providers' services, lack of response to texts, poor services, etc. , and that all leads to you overpaying even more and more consequences!
Negotiate. Negotiate. Negotiate.
If you cannot negotiate, then at least offer the provider 10 coins less and say that is all you have. Remember, providers need your coins, they pay the room by the day and have food and candy needs, so they need your coins. Why have so many providers quit posting? If they say no too often, then they become homeless and you will find them walking along Phillips, etc. These providers cannot last by saying no if you offer them fewer coins. Whatever she ask for qv or hh offer her 10 or 20 coins less.[/QUOTE]I agree with LB on negotiating with the low quality girls (99.9% of STG girls). But please stop doing it to the good looking young girls that start here or come through here. If you don't think someone is worth their price move on and quit fucking it up for the rest of us that do not want to fuck girls for or worth two Jacksons. If you don't believe a Lexus is better than a Toyota then stay with the Toyota, get a used beat up one and negotiate away. But stop trying to talk the Lexus down to used Toyota prices. Whether you think so or not, this is a large reason prices are going UP. Quality girls are constantly driven out of our area by douce bags that treat Beyonce's like Lizzo's, or Scarlette Johansson like Tess Holiday. Because there is no competing quality girls to set the market a swan can charge 80-100 QV because there are an abundance of horny dudes and not an equal amount of providers. Negotiating low prices does not set the market, supply and demand does. The supply here is very low and the demand is outragoues. There is a reason you don't find a Ferrari dealership in Green Cove Springs. And its not because there aren't enough Ferrari's. There are literally thousands of mongers in the city and surrounding area and only about 2-3 dozen regular providers. Guys, especially mongers, will eventually low their standards to what ever is available. Thats just reality, and a quick view of this board will confrim that real quick. If we had even 6-10 good looking clean providers (lets call these the Lexus') then the Toyota's would loose a lot of appeal for many of us. Of course there are plenty of mongers that just want a nut and don't care where it comes from, what the girl looks like, or even if she has an obvious cold sore on her lip while she gives a BBBJ. But I don't believe most of us are that person. If so this board wouldn't likely exist, and surely wouldn't be as popular. This isn't usadiscountpussy. Nl, though it could be a good start up venture for someone, and then we can get a board where they go there for the cheap crap and we can establish something better here.
Low Balling Misunderstood. It Is Not Toyota v Ferrari It Is About Not Overpaying
[QUOTE=JustinCider904;5801126]I agree with LB on negotiating with the low quality girls (99.9% of STG girls). But please stop doing it to the good looking young girls that start here or come through here. If you don't think someone is worth their price move on and quit fucking it up for the rest of us that do not want to fuck girls for or worth two Jacksons. If you don't believe a Lexus is better than a Toyota then stay with the Toyota, get a used beat up one and negotiate away. But stop trying to talk the Lexus down to used Toyota prices. Whether you think so or not, this is a large reason prices are going UP. Quality girls are constantly driven out of our area by douce bags that treat Beyonce's like Lizzo's, or Scarlette Johansson like Tess Holiday. Because there is no competing quality girls to set the market a swan can charge 80-100 QV because there are an abundance of horny dudes and not an equal amount of providers. Negotiating low prices does not set the market, supply and demand does. The supply here is very low and the demand is outragoues. There is a reason you don't find a Ferrari dealership in Green Cove Springs. And its not because there aren't enough Ferrari's. There are literally thousands of mongers in the city and surrounding area and only about 2-3 dozen regular providers..[/QUOTE]Understand, but the logic has a major error. Low Balling is Not comparable to buying a Toyota vs a Ferrari, instead low balling is about Not Over Paying for either that Ferrari or Toyota!
What do I mean? Some people over pay big time when buying a car, while others know how to negotiate and get the exact same car for much less. If I am buying a Ferrari or a Toyota, then I will Not pay sticker and additional dealer profit fees and dealer add-ons (like pin striping, ha ha), nope I will negotiate for a much lower price. Some guys are afraid to negotiate, or think it is wrong and end up paying above sticker plus add-on feeds and additional dealer profit fees for the exact same car I bought for much less. That is exactly what I am talking about when I say as a general rule, always offer a provider at least. 10 or. 20 less than her original asking price. Why? Because, mongers like me will negotiate with providers from their asking price, and we will Pay Much Less than the mongers who refuse to negotiate will pay for the exact same fun with the exact Same provider.
So if one feels good paying much more than I pay for the exact same CFS with the exact same provider that is fine, whatever makes one happy is cool.
As for harming the provider market, negotiating, I. E. Offering less than a provider's asking price is not causing any negative effect. A provider and say no, and other mongers can then pay her full asking price. My offering her less will not ever make her quit the business. As for top quality providers, that is too subjective. Many providers I think are hags, others find attractive. Some providers I review as great, other review as avoid. Who know what is really a super hot provider, I know that many asking high prices are not, so I cannot use that as a measuring stick. But, assume there is a super babe provider and I offer her. 3 less than her asking price; I do not believe that will make her quit the business. If she is so hot, some other monger will pay her asking price. In a free market economy, negotiating for a fair price is crucial. So mongers, unless one gets his jollies by over-paying, we must keep offering less than those insane high asking prices given by providers.
Never said Toyota vs Ferrari
[QUOTE=LowBaller;5801342]Understand, but the logic has a major error. Low Balling is Not comparable to buying a Toyota vs a Ferrari, instead low balling is about Not Over Paying for either that Ferrari or Toyota!
As for harming the provider market, negotiating, I. E. Offering less than a provider's asking price is not causing any negative effect. A provider and say no, and other mongers can then pay her full asking price. My offering her less will not ever make her quit the business. As for top quality providers, that is too subjective. Many providers I think are hags, others find attractive. Some providers I review as great, other review as avoid. Who know what is really a super hot provider, I know that many asking high prices are not, so I cannot use that as a measuring stick. But, assume there is a super babe provider and I offer her. 3 less than her asking price; I do not believe that will make her quit the business. If she is so hot, some other monger will pay her asking price. In a free market economy, negotiating for a fair price is crucial. So mongers, unless one gets his jollies by over-paying, we must keep offering less than those insane high asking prices given by providers.[/QUOTE]The fact that you focused on Toyota vs Ferrari shows that you missed my point entirely, or just disregarded it and focused on two extremes to prove your point. I comparded Toyota to a Lexus, and did so purposely because I have met many people that do not see a difference between the two that justify the price difference. If you are one of these people, then you will never understand; or at least not until you are in a position where the price is no longer the hangup on whether it could be considered. I completely agree that a single person offering a low price, or negotiating will not put someone out of business; I think we can all agree on this. However; getting flooded with these offers will make them move on. This is what I am advocating against. If you put a Lexus dealership in a market where the sales people are all tied up with offers at Toyota prices they are going to pack up business and go somewhere else their product is appreciated. This is what is happening in our market. We live in a free market economy (which really is irrelevant here since this is not a legal transaction and lives by its own set of rules, or absent from them but I digress), and no one can stop you from doing what ever you wish. But my point is your (and others with this mindset) are forcing the Lexus' to pack up and go where they are appreciated and can make a living without dealing with being undervalued. It is true that there are times that you can negotiate someone down to a ridiculous rate or even down a couple of Hamiltons, and you feel very accomplished after this fact. That's great, though it is probably not a great quality to be proud of getting joy from making someone else feel less than (warranted or not). If saving a Hamilton or a Jackson will really make or break your decision or expereince then stick with the Harleys, and Bubbly Blondes, and swans, and stop chasing the Mid-Tier+ girls out of town for your own selfish reasons. Your tactics are not forcing prices down, they are forcing providers out and leaving the market with only dollar store material. Leaving only low quality over priced providers.
Forget Cars. It Is About Being Able To Negotiate. Providers Will Accept Less
[QUOTE=JustinCider904;5802959]The fact that you focused on Toyota vs Ferrari shows that you missed my point entirely, or just disregarded it and focused on two extremes to prove your point. I comparded Toyota to a Lexus, and did so purposely because I have met many people that do not see a difference between the two that justify the price difference. If you are one of these people, then you will never understand; or at least not until you are in a position where the price is no longer the hangup on whether it could be considered. I completely agree that a single person offering a low price, or negotiating will not put someone out of business; I think we can all agree on this. However; getting flooded with these offers will make them move on. This is what I am advocating against. If you put a Lexus dealership in a market where the sales people are all tied up with offers at Toyota prices they are going to pack up business and go somewhere else their product is appreciated. This is what is happening in our market.[/QUOTE]Providers are offering us mongers a service. Hence, comparing buying 30 minutes of FS fun from a hottie with buying a Lexus is mentally incorrect and just plain wrong. Services simply are not things and cannot really be logically compared with things like cars! Further, whether a monger likes to buy expensive cars, or cheap cars has nothing to do with a monger's desire for providers or for the coins he is willing to pay, and to compare those is a logic error and false.
Some argue that high quality provers will move away if mongers offer to pay the providers less than their asking price. As proof they point to the lack of quality in Jax right now. But, there is no reason a provider would move out of town because some mongers offered her less. In fact, currently many mongers are paying the full asking price, so I can use the same proof and say that the not negotiating has made the current lack of quality in providers. What is the reason for the current lack of quality? I do not really know; I have no answer. Perhaps it just runs in wave cycles.
Finally, offering a provider less does not mean I am suggesting to picking a swan for a car date while some big spending dude picks a young hottie at a fancy hotel. I say compare the same provider, at the same hotel and for the same service, but at different prices! That is, if Provider Hottie asks 200 for qv FS and a monger pays 200 without offering her less, then fine. But, for comparison, I contact the same Provider Hottie and I offer her 150 for the qv FS, which she accepts. I had lots of fun with the her, the only difference was that I paid 150 and the other monger paid 200! Perhaps some mongers get their jollies over paying, but I prefer to pay a fair rate that both the provider and I agree upon. No, it has nothing to do with what I can afford, the issue is simply to offer the provider less for the same thing other dues over pay for.
Negotiate! Negotiate! If a provider refuses your offer, then you decide if you want to pay her full price or try some one else. The choice is up to you, just as the choice is up to the provider to accept your offer or to see no one. With the quality and quantity so low right now, too many mongers just pay the full asking rate and as a result the providers have shot their asking rates to insane levels. Mongers – we all need to negotiate, for example, offer. 10 or. 20 less is all you have to do in order to enjoy the same provider for the same service at the same hotel that some mongers pay insanely high prices for. Besides, I believe providers do not respect guys who have no balls and are afraid to offer them less. So, mongers start lowering providers' prices now by offering them less. It will improve quality and services for us all.
