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[QUOTE=SenorVac;4847103]Says mobile, but do you know if she has an Incall somewhere?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure. I know she was coming from Southfield but don't know if she does incall from there. I almost always do an outcall and rent a hotel. Feels much safer to me since I somewhat control the location. Plus, red roof is doing this thing for "truckers" where you can rent a room from noon to 5 pm For like 20 bucks. Trucker's got to sleep sometime LOL.
Sunshine [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52060134/4195036482[/URL].
I saw Sunshine last month, looks better than her pictures, $$ for an hour, in a mid quality hotel, everything covered, awesome ass, but was in a hurry, told me I had to finish quickly because she had more dates waiting and she was on her phone half the time. Might repeat if in the area again.
Trinity [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/51524180/7344004406[/URL].
I saw Trinity twice now and both times were great. The first time setup was like pulling teeth, took multiple tries over days. Was $$$ for 1. 5 hours both times, at an apartment, GFE, BBBJ, cfs, first visit we talked for most of it, she's a great girl. Body is amazing and super tight. Did not last long, she wrapped her legs around me and wouldn't let me slow down, 2nd visit was even better, she got on top first and rode like there was no tomorrow, then switched to mis, then back shots, finished and was just chilling out talking, but had to cut it short due to her roommate showing up. Will definitely repeat though.
Jessi Jones [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52116135/8136657322[/URL].
I saw Jessi last month also. 500 for 1. 5 hours, a lot, but I think worth it, at a nice suite, GFE, BBBJ, cfs. Got right to and after she gave a massage then back at it for a 2nd time. Looks just like pictures, body is great. I'll repeat and go for the nuru next time.
Mia [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52076492/3139781833[/URL].
Saw Mia today, $$ for an hour, bad hotel (more on this later), BBBJ, did cfs but she would have let bb. Looks good, but was definitely tweaking. Met me outside to walk me in and her movements were erratic and she was mumbling. Was nearly nodding off during BJ, and in mis she was responsive but I ended the session and left. Will not repeat. Now why it was a bad hotel: On the way out a security guard walked up to me and stepped in front of me and asked if I was a tenant, I said no just visiting a friend and just kept walking. He started yelling that I wasn't allowed to be there and I said well I'm just leaving and he continues to say that I can't be wandering around and I just picked up my pace and he yelled after me that the girl is going to get her ass kicked out. What a stupid place to pick, people sitting at the doors watching everyone come and go. I'm just glad there's s reason to wear a mask.
[QUOTE=HotSmegma;4849092]I'm not sure. I know she was coming from Southfield but don't know if she does incall from there. I almost always do an outcall and rent a hotel. Feels much safer to me since I somewhat control the location. Plus, red roof is doing this thing for "truckers" where you can rent a room from noon to 5 pm For like 20 bucks. Trucker's got to sleep sometime LOL.[/QUOTE]Every location participating? Do you have to show a Work I'd or just show my license / endorsements?
[QUOTE=NoBuddy5051;4843764]If you go to the "Pictures" tab in the posting, then select videos button, there are about 6 posted vids there.
Buddy.[/QUOTE]Thanks Buddy, I didn't know that.
Hello guys, I am reaching out to providers in the area on various escort sites and almost each one of them keeps asking me to deposit some cash through mobile money transfer apps. What are your experiences. I am not keen on sending any donations before an appointment. My question is this normal and legit to make a deposit before meeting providers nowadays?
Thanks.
JM.
[QUOTE=DatyGuy420;4848748]Guys can we band together and STOP letting these ****** charge 100 for a SS! I mean WTF! ***** you're not on Eros or Tryst, you're on Skip and EB. 85% of these tricks are addicted to something, and 60-80 is more than enough for 15 fucking minutes. At 60 that's 240 an hour and 99% of them use such filtered pictures you really never what there going to look like. If we keep letting these sub par garbage dumps charge 100 ss then we all lose. Sorry for the rant, just pissed that a girl that shouldn't even get 100 for and hr are asking that for SS.
Stay safe!
420.[/QUOTE]I also have to agree. At 240 per hour, if this was a full time job, that's $499 k a year but again I'm not saying that they work 40 hrs a week.
[QUOTE=JadooMazar;4850200]Hello guys, I am reaching out to providers in the area on various escort sites and almost each one of them keeps asking me to deposit some cash through mobile money transfer apps. What are your experiences. I am not keen on sending any donations before an appointment. My question is this normal and legit to make a deposit before meeting providers nowadays?
Thanks.
JM.[/QUOTE]These are almost always scammers who will ghost after the deposit is sent, but I tell these girls if they're going to pull some b. S. I'll pull a chargeback on my credit / debit card and get the money back. As far as I'm concerned, cash is king.
[QUOTE=JadooMazar;4850200]Hello guys, I am reaching out to providers in the area on various escort sites and almost each one of them keeps asking me to deposit some cash through mobile money transfer apps. What are your experiences. I am not keen on sending any donations before an appointment. My question is this normal and legit to make a deposit before meeting providers nowadays?
Thanks.
JM.[/QUOTE]Only pay a deposit ic you want to lose it. Just saying.
[QUOTE=JadooMazar;4850200]Hello guys, I am reaching out to providers in the area on various escort sites and almost each one of them keeps asking me to deposit some cash through mobile money transfer apps. What are your experiences. I am not keen on sending any donations before an appointment. My question is this normal and legit to make a deposit before meeting providers nowadays?
Thanks.
JM.[/QUOTE]NEVER send money prior to seeing them. Cash or nothing, unless you like losing money.
I'm still somewhat dumbfounded why this hasn't set in to the cranial regions of many guys. The sites have warnings, there are plenty of warnings in here and mainly, it's common sense. They aren't a reputable business like Amazon where you can get your money returned. Some guys say "it's only $25" or some other smaller number. Again, if you don't care, go for it, but that 25 from you, and him, and him, and him is pretty good business, then on to the next city or frankly, they're already there. $25 is a full tank of gas for me and lasts a long time in my car. I won't waste it on a scammer.
Hi why'all. Been lurking this site for about a month and finally decided to take the plunge into this hobby. Is there any worthwhile tips in regards to searching, asking, how to behave, etc?
[QUOTE=ILoveUtr;4850341]I also have to agree. At 240 per hour, if this was a full time job, that's $499 k a year but again I'm not saying that they work 40 hrs a week.[/QUOTE]They work to cover their habits for the most part.
Just spoke with a popular girl. Yesterday she did 11 dates, today only a couple. Her ss is 80, so netted around 1040. Her habit is 6 grams a day at $80 per, so for that two days she is at 960. That leaves only 80 to pay the room and food. Probably 200 more (room was 65 per day). She realized that even though she doesn't feel good she needs to do a couple more dates to cover her expenses. She tries to save money but always ends up spending it on dope. Its a horrible cycle, they can never get ahead.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;4848936]I don't get why guys don't understand this. I know many of these girls personally. It is a straight up sex for money thing for all of them so they can finance their drug habits. I'm sitting with one girl after our session listening to her go through her message list. Like 25 came over while I fucked her, and they all read "miss you" or "love you". She laughed and said "do they really expect me to respond like that" and said "I love your money not you", but of course went on to type flirty responses.
Oh, and for God sake guys. No more dick pics. They aren't impressed at all. Just send a picture of the cash you will give them if you want them extra wet.[/QUOTE]Very true but your words mostly will fall on deaf ears. Some of these guys will never get it.
[QUOTE=Daeghen;4849334]Sunshine [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52060134/4195036482[/URL].
I saw Sunshine last month, looks better than her pictures, $$ for an hour, in a mid quality hotel, everything covered, awesome ass, but was in a hurry, told me I had to finish quickly because she had more dates waiting and she was on her phone half the time. Might repeat if in the area again.
Trinity [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/51524180/7344004406[/URL].
I saw Trinity twice now and both times were great. The first time setup was like pulling teeth, took multiple tries over days. Was $$$ for 1. 5 hours both times, at an apartment, GFE, BBBJ, cfs, first visit we talked for most of it, she's a great girl. Body is amazing and super tight. Did not last long, she wrapped her legs around me and wouldn't let me slow down, 2nd visit was even better, she got on top first and rode like there was no tomorrow, then switched to mis, then back shots, finished and was just chilling out talking, but had to cut it short due to her roommate showing up. Will definitely repeat though.
Jessi Jones [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52116135/8136657322[/URL].
I saw Jessi last month also. 500 for 1. 5 hours, a lot, but I think worth it, at a nice suite, GFE, BBBJ, cfs. Got right to and after she gave a massage then back at it for a 2nd time. Looks just like pictures, body is great. I'll repeat and go for the nuru next time.
Mia [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52076492/3139781833[/URL].
Saw Mia today, $$ for an hour, bad hotel (more on this later), BBBJ, did cfs but she would have let bb. Looks good, but was definitely tweaking. Met me outside to walk me in and her movements were erratic and she was mumbling. Was nearly nodding off during BJ, and in mis she was responsive but I ended the session and left. Will not repeat. Now why it was a bad hotel: On the way out a security guard walked up to me and stepped in front of me and asked if I was a tenant, I said no just visiting a friend and just kept walking. He started yelling that I wasn't allowed to be there and I said well I'm just leaving and he continues to say that I can't be wandering around and I just picked up my pace and he yelled after me that the girl is going to get her ass kicked out. What a stupid place to pick, people sitting at the doors watching everyone come and go. I'm just glad there's s reason to wear a mask.[/QUOTE]Great reviews. That rent a cop, what a dick.
[QUOTE=Stache20;4850594]Hi why'all. Been lurking this site for about a month and finally decided to take the plunge into this hobby. Is there any worthwhile tips in regards to searching, asking, how to behave, etc?[/QUOTE]Just send it to me, at least I won't buy drugs with it or use it to support my unemployed boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Stache20;4850594]Hi why'all. Been lurking this site for about a month and finally decided to take the plunge into this hobby. Is there any worthwhile tips in regards to searching, asking, how to behave, etc?[/QUOTE]Research girls before you see them. Don't take risks. Never pay a deposit. Don't be afraid to walk away from a situation. Understand all these girls do hard drugs. There is always someone hanging around the girl for protection. Never develop a romantic attachment, this is a straight money for sex transaction. The girls will lie about anything.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;4850907]Research girls before you see them. Don't take risks. Never pay a deposit. Don't be afraid to walk away from a situation. Understand all these girls do hard drugs. There is always someone hanging around the girl for protection. Never develop a romantic attachment, this is a straight money for sex transaction. The girls will lie about anything.[/QUOTE]Save this and read it 10 times a week.
[QUOTE=Stache20;4850594]Hi why'all. Been lurking this site for about a month and finally decided to take the plunge into this hobby. Is there any worthwhile tips in regards to searching, asking, how to behave, etc?[/QUOTE]Stealth provided you a great do's & don't list. If you want to explore more in depth, go to Grand Rapids listing. Scan down till you find "The Newbie Report". It covers all the things experienced senior mongers have learned in this hobby. Even a couple entries by a well known provider giving you another perspective. Read, digest, and practice what you learn. Mongering will be safer & enjoyable if you do. Md.
[QUOTE=Concupiscent69;4850470]NEVER send money prior to seeing them. Cash or nothing, unless you like losing money.
I'm still somewhat dumbfounded why this hasn't set in to the cranial regions of many guys. The sites have warnings, there are plenty of warnings in here and mainly, it's common sense. They aren't a reputable business like Amazon where you can get your money returned. Some guys say "it's only $25" or some other smaller number. Again, if you don't care, go for it, but that 25 from you, and him, and him, and him is pretty good business, then on to the next city or frankly, they're already there. $25 is a full tank of gas for me and lasts a long time in my car. I won't waste it on a scammer.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it any better. The moment I hear advance I'm gone.
For those wondering, yes she's posting again.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/52166467/[/URL]
Tell me she loves BBBJ and is real.
[URL]https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/52176360/[/URL]#.
[QUOTE=JadooMazar;4850200]Hello guys, I am reaching out to providers in the area on various escort sites and almost each one of them keeps asking me to deposit some cash through mobile money transfer apps. What are your experiences. I am not keen on sending any donations before an appointment. My question is this normal and legit to make a deposit before meeting providers nowadays?
Thanks.
JM.[/QUOTE]Only pay a deposit if you enjoy losing money. (per Ron White, "you can't fix stupid".
[QUOTE=Stealth72;4850907]Research girls before you see them. Don't take risks. Never pay a deposit. Don't be afraid to walk away from a situation. Understand all these girls do hard drugs. There is always someone hanging around the girl for protection. Never develop a romantic attachment, this is a straight money for sex transaction. The girls will lie about anything.[/QUOTE]Just an addition, I would always arrive to the area / location 15-30 minutes early to survey the lay of the land, entrances and exits to the building or residence, parking lots and be sure to check the vehicles in the vicinity for possible LE or protection, possible setup. Check to see who's on foot lingering around or anything at all that doesn't look right or feel right. Use the Big head and leave if your not sure or have that gut feeling. Not worth jeopardizing your life or potentially taking someone else's over a piece of ass. There's a lot of information that passes through this board, so use it to your advantage! Plenty of seasoned vets to help you out and get you up and running on the right path. STAY SAFE EVERYONE!
[QUOTE=Daeghen;4849334]Sunshine [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52060134/4195036482[/URL].
I saw Sunshine last month, looks better than her pictures, $$ for an hour, in a mid quality hotel, everything covered, awesome ass, but was in a hurry, told me I had to finish quickly because she had more dates waiting and she was on her phone half the time. Might repeat if in the area again.
Trinity [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/51524180/7344004406[/URL].
I saw Trinity twice now and both times were great. The first time setup was like pulling teeth, took multiple tries over days. Was $$$ for 1. 5 hours both times, at an apartment, GFE, BBBJ, cfs, first visit we talked for most of it, she's a great girl. Body is amazing and super tight. Did not last long, she wrapped her legs around me and wouldn't let me slow down, 2nd visit was even better, she got on top first and rode like there was no tomorrow, then switched to mis, then back shots, finished and was just chilling out talking, but had to cut it short due to her roommate showing up. Will definitely repeat though.
Jessi Jones [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52116135/8136657322[/URL].
I saw Jessi last month also. 500 for 1. 5 hours, a lot, but I think worth it, at a nice suite, GFE, BBBJ, cfs. Got right to and after she gave a massage then back at it for a 2nd time. Looks just like pictures, body is great. I'll repeat and go for the nuru next time.
Mia [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/52076492/3139781833[/URL].
Saw Mia today, $$ for an hour, bad hotel (more on this later), BBBJ, did cfs but she would have let bb. Looks good, but was definitely tweaking. Met me outside to walk me in and her movements were erratic and she was mumbling. Was nearly nodding off during BJ, and in mis she was responsive but I ended the session and left. Will not repeat. Now why it was a bad hotel: On the way out a security guard walked up to me and stepped in front of me and asked if I was a tenant, I said no just visiting a friend and just kept walking. He started yelling that I wasn't allowed to be there and I said well I'm just leaving and he continues to say that I can't be wandering around and I just picked up my pace and he yelled after me that the girl is going to get her ass kicked out. What a stupid place to pick, people sitting at the doors watching everyone come and go. I'm just glad there's s reason to wear a mask.[/QUOTE]I would like to see here but none of her post have a phone number.
Trying to figure out if this one is real. I've seen the pictures with multiple phone numbers in a very small time frame.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/52171878/[/URL]
[QUOTE=HardMuscle1;4851326]Just an addition, I would always arrive to the area / location 15-30 minutes early to survey the lay of the land, entrances and exits to the building or residence, parking lots and be sure to check the vehicles in the vicinity for possible LE or protection, possible setup. Check to see who's on foot lingering around or anything at all that doesn't look right or feel right. Use the Big head and leave if your not sure or have that gut feeling. Not worth jeopardizing your life or potentially taking someone else's over a piece of ass. There's a lot of information that passes through this board, so use it to your advantage! Plenty of seasoned vets to help you out and get you up and running on the right path. STAY SAFE EVERYONE![/QUOTE]Part of my research is that I never see unknown girls. I have a solid network of known, safe providers. If I ever see someone outside that group, I get references through my contacts (girls that work an area almost always know each other). It happens to really help me schedule dates since I frequently name drop other girls which puts them at ease that I'm not a psycho or LE (girl yesterday told me straight up its why she scheduled me and didn't bother with LE check). LOL. Fb is my friend, one recent girl I tried out later on I realized I've slept with a significant portion of her female friend list. And no, I do not have any accessible social media tied to myself.
LOL. Just realized the other day I've fucked two providers that share a baby daddy.
[QUOTE=Stache20;4850594]Hi why'all. Been lurking this site for about a month and finally decided to take the plunge into this hobby. Is there any worthwhile tips in regards to searching, asking, how to behave, etc?[/QUOTE]One more thing: use text now or a burner phone to communicate. Maybe both.
[QUOTE=PoorPimp;4851372]Trying to figure out if this one is real. I've seen the pictures with multiple phone numbers in a very small time frame.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/52171878/[/URL][/QUOTE]Not my type but her review looks like bs.
Thanks to everyone who helped give this rookie some advice. Another thing I forgot to ask is that when is it ok to ask for rates? I was texting Trinity bc she had mainly good reviews according to this thread and comms were really quick for the most part but once I tried asking for rates it's been dead. Was that on me? Or is she just being hard to reach?
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/52183094/[/URL] I know she's been reviewed several times on her. But I'm always looking for fresh updates on here. She's kinda caught my eye. So any info would be great. Rates / location / good service / bad / rush. Is she clean, smell clean, finger test clean? Thanks. PM me with any info please. I've heard mixed things that's why I'm asking. Stay safes.
Thank you all for the great advice and feedback in below posts. I used to be in the local provider scene few years ago and gave it up exactly for all the reasons you guys have pointed out. I have experienced girls on drugs who would do anything totally unexpected, pimps and le lurking, cash and dash, etc. Not worth the risk at all!! Sometimes I venture into local SCs but that also has gone downhill recently with over inflated prices (300 and above for 10 mins in VIP), horrible attitude and service. Usually this time of the year I would be in Europe or SE Asia enjoying 100's of beauties with much better service in a safe environment. So assessing the overall situation feels like I will need to control my impulses, chill out at home, save cash for things to get back to normal which is probably going to be sometime next year. Stay safe out there!
Thanks,
JM.
[QUOTE=Stache20;4851396]Thanks to everyone who helped give this rookie some advice. Another thing I forgot to ask is that when is it ok to ask for rates? I was texting Trinity bc she had mainly good reviews according to this thread and comms were really quick for the most part but once I tried asking for rates it's been dead. Was that on me? Or is she just being hard to reach?[/QUOTE]Trinity can be difficult to communicate with. She may have just moved on to a more likely option.
Be very brief with texts. No "you're beautiful " or dumb shit. Start off with are you available? Then immediately ask donation (I really suggest knowing going in). Better is to just state the length of stay you want and they will normally fire back a rate. If its acceptable, tell them how soon you can be there. If they go silent, they have another date. Keep the chatter for when you see them, but probably expect some type of LE screening (its fun when they grab your cock or suck you off immediately) before the true session begins or donation is given.
[QUOTE=Stache20;4851396]Thanks to everyone who helped give this rookie some advice. Another thing I forgot to ask is that when is it ok to ask for rates? I was texting Trinity bc she had mainly good reviews according to this thread and comms were really quick for the most part but once I tried asking for rates it's been dead. Was that on me? Or is she just being hard to reach?[/QUOTE]She did the same thing to me too, but the next day she got back to me. Just be polite and keep trying, like many have said she's kind of a pain to see, but well worth it.
How do they differ? Is a QV just a matter of 5-10 minutes with no possible GFE (Kissing etc) and maybe just BJ, PIV?
And is a SS around 15 minutes?
I usually prefer a SS- HH. There's no way to tell if a new provider is shitty so a safest bet would be SS / QV (Irrelevant for regulars). But sometimes I feel like a HH is wasted when all I need is a SS.
Can an SS include GFE, foreplay ending with one SOG?
Additionally, what should one be paying for SS and HH for your average girl from EB / LC / STG?
[QUOTE=BusHunter69;4851529][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/52183094/[/URL] I know she's been reviewed several times on her. But I'm always looking for fresh updates on here. She's kinda caught my eye. So any info would be great. Rates / location / good service / bad / rush. Is she clean, smell clean, finger test clean? Thanks. PM me with any info please. I've heard mixed things that's why I'm asking. Stay safes.[/QUOTE]D'rea is a legend in the west side drug / escort scene. She knows everybody and everyone knows her. She gets into beefs with some, and switches up people she hangs with. I will never date her, but not for any reason you listed. Just not really my type. Obviously a heavy drug user. That being said, a girl I'm tight with absolutely swears that's her girl. Meaning trustworthy.
[QUOTE=BramStroker;4851614]How do they differ? Is a QV just a matter of 5-10 minutes with no possible GFE (Kissing etc) and maybe just BJ, PIV?
And is a SS around 15 minutes?
I usually prefer a SS- HH. There's no way to tell if a new provider is shitty so a safest bet would be SS / QV (Irrelevant for regulars). But sometimes I feel like a HH is wasted when all I need is a SS.
Can an SS include GFE, foreplay ending with one SOG?
Additionally, what should one be paying for SS and HH for your average girl from EB / LC / STG?[/QUOTE]Always do ss which should include light GFE, BBFS and be FS (I never do BBFS, ever). Idgaf how long so long as I pop (this is generally acceptable depending on your stamina).
Rate should be in the 60 to 80 range. Maybe a plus 20 for anal, but sone do it for 10.
I have yet to have a provider kick me out no matter how long I'm there, I read body language and offer to go when I see them dope sick.
[QUOTE=Daeghen;4849334]
Trinity [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/51524180/7344004406[/URL].
I saw Trinity twice now and both times were great. The first time setup was like pulling teeth, took multiple tries over days. Was $$$ for 1. 5 hours both times, at an apartment, GFE, BBBJ, cfs, first visit we talked for most of it, she's a great girl. Body is amazing and super tight. Did not last long, she wrapped her legs around me and wouldn't let me slow down, 2nd visit was even better, she got on top first and rode like there was no tomorrow, then switched to mis, then back shots, finished and was just chilling out talking, but had to cut it short due to her roommate showing up. Will definitely repeat though.
[/QUOTE]I concur with everything you said here since it has been consistent with my own experience. I was initially underwhelmed because of the excess filter use in her pictures but she is not in bad shape, she's actually pretty hot.
Now, I have a question about something I'm sure I found somewhere in this forum but now I cannot locate:
Some time ago there was a very attractive young couple offering a voyeur show touring the midwest and I missed their Detroit dates. I'm still very curious about that stuff and wanted to give it a try so I wanted to find their website and see what are they up to during this crazy pandemic time but can't find it anywhere and my memory is not helping me either. I can't even remember their names!
Does this ring a bell to any members of this forum? If so I'd appreciate the orientation.
[QUOTE=BusHunter69;4848188][URL]https://detroit.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/come-meet-me-and-lets-have-som/484952259604[/URL] I've seen her a few times. She's good in a pinch. Whether your out of cash or got ghosted. She sucks and fucks $40. House is trashed. She has baby damage and is not the prettiest thing out there, but gives a nice BBBJ, BBFS, cip for 40. I would not ever pay her more than that, because she is of low street walker quality. Hate to say it like that but it is what it is. She's nice, never any problems. Seen her for a few years now.[/QUOTE]She quotes me:65 ss 80 hh 100 hr. Think she can be talked down?
She can be talked down in prices no problem. I would only do BBBJ if it was me. Nice girl but body is terrible & house is nasty. 20-40 for BBBJ max.
[QUOTE=Stealth72;4851648]Always do ss which should include light GFE, BBFS and be FS (I never do BBFS, ever). Idgaf how long so long as I pop (this is generally acceptable depending on your stamina).
Rate should be in the 60 to 80 range. Maybe a plus 20 for anal, but sone do it for 10.
I have yet to have a provider kick me out no matter how long I'm there, I read body language and offer to go when I see them dope sick.[/QUOTE]Meant ss should include BBBJ, not BBFS. That is typically extra.
[QUOTE=Kliffslp;4851650]I concur with everything you said here since it has been consistent with my own experience. I was initially underwhelmed because of the excess filter use in her pictures but she is not in bad shape, she's actually pretty hot.
Now, I have a question about something I'm sure I found somewhere in this forum but now I cannot locate:
Some time ago there was a very attractive young couple offering a voyeur show touring the midwest and I missed their Detroit dates. I'm still very curious about that stuff and wanted to give it a try so I wanted to find their website and see what are they up to during this crazy pandemic time but can't find it anywhere and my memory is not helping me either. I can't even remember their names!
Does this ring a bell to any members of this forum? If so I'd appreciate the orientation.[/QUOTE]Chloe and Oliver?
[URL]https://beautifuldirtycouple.ch/[/URL]
I tried to schedule something with them a while back for their tour in NYC when I was there for work. Something rubbed me the wrong way with the person that handles the booking / email so I declined to see them. Could just be me or an off day.