Review. Red Dragon in Medford
I TOFFT at Red Dragon in Medford recently. There is some on-street 1-hour and 2-hour parking near there, but can be pretty hard to find. The mamasan suggested I part at the nearby CVS or in a bank's parking lot.
I drew Lulu, a 40-50 slim provider, A- cups. Massage was mediocre, focused mostly on the back. Not arms, legs, or glutes. The back "massage" was cut short by the phone and she returned after answering the call with a hot towel. One tiny hot towel then flip. Some gentle rubbing on the torso with no teasing or hint of any extras. After guiding her hands to where I wanted, she finished it off pretty mechanically, all the while saying that they don't normally do this there. Minimal OTC roaming.
Will not repeat. Total damage. 6+.4
I'm guessing was Golden Flower
[QUOTE=Phindroid; 1174447]I TOFFT at Red Dragon in Medford recently. There is some on-street 1-hour and 2-hour parking near there, but can be pretty hard to find. The mamasan suggested I part at the nearby CVS or in a bank's parking lot.
I drew Lulu, a 40-50 slim provider, A- cups. Massage was mediocre, focused mostly on the back. Not arms, legs, or glutes. The back "massage" was cut short by the phone and she returned after answering the call with a hot towel. One tiny hot towel then flip. Some gentle rubbing on the torso with no teasing or hint of any extras. After guiding her hands to where I wanted, she finished it off pretty mechanically, all the while saying that they don't normally do this there. Minimal OTC roaming.
Will not repeat. Total damage. 6+.4[/QUOTE]I'm guessing this was the Golden Flower (suite 1A) that opened up in Feb. The reviews on that place were good with a topless HJ the usual outcome. The massage was good and the tease also worthwhile. Sounds like they have changed again and not for the better.
Name change don't be fooled
[QUOTE=Stressed Out;1174744]I'm guessing this was the Golden Flower (suite 1A) that opened up in Feb. The reviews on that place were good with a topless HJ the usual outcome. The massage was good and the tease also worthwhile. Sounds like they have changed again and not for the better.[/QUOTE]I got the same outcome posted here last time I was there. I saw the name change and went back for a visit without an appointment. The exact same crew was there so I walked out. I went to Main street in Medford accross from Dunkin and got typical AAMP service.
Addiction implies some type of withdrawal or un resolved tension just to feel normal.
[QUOTE=Stressed Out; 1174757]You call it flaming and we call it policing ourselves as to be fair to the provider and in the end ourselves. Here is my. 02 not that you asked for it or even care. So you went out and had your visit. Pissed her off in the door fee dept and then again in the tip dept. And how is that being fair to the masseuse as you wrote? So I go in to see her (or someone she knows and talks to) later that day or the next. And what do I get. A distrustful, pissed off provider who isn't going to give me the service or the session that I want and probably would have gotten if she hadn't been shortchanged on the tip that she SHOULD have gotten. And yes it is obvious when that happens just like it is obvious when one of us has a bad day. The massage may not be as good, the back and forth may not be as nice and now being distrustful she may want the tip upfront which tends to ruin the mood. So yes your being a cheap bastard does ruin it for others.
As far as an addiction or a hobby. I've been doing this for 30 years ON and OFF. The reason for the on and off is that when times are tight I cut back or just don't go at all. In the last 2 years I had a period where I was out of work for 5 months and didn't go and lived through your experiences on the board. And with the current economic climate I've only been a couple of times since last fall. I don't have the extra scratch so I'm not going to go. I'm not as you said going to put my family in peril to get a HJ. And to be qable to enjoy that every once in awhile experience I just don't spend elsewhere. At 5-10 bucks a week on lunch I make it myself now and save that $ for my visit. Same with morning java. I make it myself, I don't go out with the 'gang' and drop bucks. We all spend on ourselves and if we are willing to trade one for another then we can deal.
On the other hand if your a 'sex addict' and need 'strange' all the time then I guess it can be an addiction. Of course it is emotional or mental rather than a physical one. Which category you fall into I don't know and I wish you luck. But not being fair to the hard working providers is a shame and TBH one that we won't stand for. So your out on an island my friend. [/QUOTE]I imagine one can judge by there frame of reference. Addicts are impaired in their life and and its the harm in some way to continue their habits be that physically, financially, emotionally / psychologically or spiritually damaging to themselves.
My pursuits as a hobby are limited by my realities of real life and genuine commitments to family and work. It is certainly a self indulgent experience but if I don't have the cash to spend.
I am not going to beg steal or borrow or do something foolish to my credit to get a TS and then something.
The ethics of tipping have been described well here. I certainly try to do so fairly if effort has been tried.
If lousy service is given the tip will be at the expected minimum and word will get out to the brotherhood here to be cautious expecting more.
There is certainly quite a dark side to all of this that is done and that is where the stereotyping gets down both to us and the ladies we see.
All we can try to do be is decent and gentlemanly.
You really know how to make friends on this board
[QUOTE=Handjobluvr;1175206]I assume that those of you who believe that this is a hobby are very proud of this hobby, right? And that you have told your wife about your hobby? No? Why not? How about your doctor? When you go for your annual physical, and your doctor asks if you have any hobbies, you state with a great deal of pride,"I visit Asian Massage Parlors."[/QUOTE]I think its best if U leave or STFU
WW stll a reliable place to go for a good time
[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan; 1175293]A friend of mine visited WW the other day and lo and behold he was told not to return.
He went with another fellow and it seems that either one or both asked the ladies for 'extra extras'. Thereafter the sessions were brought to a quick conclusion and as they headed down the stairs toward the exit, one of the ladies appeared at the top and said: "Please do not visit us again," or words to that effect.
I have learned from another source that Jessica has installed a video camera above the stairs to help them more readily intercept fellows they recognize as unwelcome guests. True or not, I do not know, but for what it's worth they do seem determined to summarily shut down any requests or expectations for service above and beyond the customary and expected AMP fare.[/QUOTE]Don't know why anyone tries to get what is definitely not on the menu. There are enough posts on this place to inform members what is and isn't available. This place is very reliable for a good time doing what it does. If you want more, go elsewhere to a place where it is on the menu.
As for the jerk who posted the inflaming and untrue info concerning one of the girls which provoked most of their justifiable irritation and anger, what were you trying to prove? The brain dead member who told the girls about the post is another one who needs a brain transfusion. What were you thinking? Why get them aroused. Is your ego and / or your favorable standing with them so fragile that you needed to resort to ratting out the board to try to ingratiate yourself with the girls? You're almost as bad as the one who posted the B. S.
All of the girls there are excellent in their own way. They are friendly, give good massages, nice teasing, and send you away happy. LeiLei, Lulu, and Mimi are really great. Mimi is the newest, and she is absolutely terrific.
Finally Celistina's report
I have been promising a visit to Celestina's Massage in Brockton for awhile. Well it is finally here! I apologize for being long winded.
First let me digress. Those that know me (or my posts here) know that I have been involved in the non-asian massage spa community for quite awhile. Some is due to the fact that I have been enjoying the spa arena for a number of years going back to Royal Touch and Old English. While the locations have changed over the past few years some of the players have not. Of course being a LT client of the 'alphabet' spas and the offshoots also doesn't hurt. It isn't a secret that the business model of A and B usually leads to those who are good in their work leaving. (Bella, Gianna, Rio to name a few).
The owners / mgrs of Celistina's spa are two individuals I have know and respected for a few years. One of the gents I have been pm'ing with for at least two years and if it is possible to get a take on someone through written words then he has earned my respect. The other individual CiCi who was a very good masseuse at Aria and I saw several times had the long awaited falling out with the owner at A / B last year and decided to open her own place and treat those who went there as they should be treated (no bait and switch, no time shorted, a clean place) and the ladies as they should be treated and give them the enviornment and $ they deserve. A great vision if you can make it work.
So here we go. I had heard many trepidations about the area. Well with Brockton not being a hangout of mine and with me being a pasty old white guy I drove there with both eyes open. Is it a great area. Not the best but not anything to worry about IMHO. Does it seem unsafe. No at least not during the day. I parked out back as there was room in the lot and walked in. No one bothered me or even gave me a second look as I walked around the building. As I walked up the stairs the first impression was of a cheery, well lit, clean and inviting place. That did not change as I was let in. The rooms are clean, freshly painted, well decorated and had a homey feel to it. It wasn't a stark and forboding place and didn't have a 'stranger' feel to it but told you in it's own way that you would be treated as a guest and a friend.
I met CiCi who I hadn't seen in awhile and we chatted for a bit. As when I met her before I was impressed with her intelligence, business plan and her sincerity to make sure that your visit that you are paying for is all you wanted and if not she would try and make it right. I knew of 2 ladies that had 'left' recently and the reasons told to me reaffirmed to me that CiCi wanted a place where the client was treated as number one and fairly and was a good place for the ladies to work.
So I was reintroduced to Gina who I had met before at Spa B and very much wanted to be reaquainted with again. I'm sure some of you remember her as she was one of the nicest and more reputable masseuses at Spa A / B. Gina is about 5'6 with long curly black hair and with a perfectly slim body and a tushie that we all can only dream about. Gina also has beautiful eyes and a natural beauty to her that along with her bubbly personality and delightful art of conversation makes the hour fly by. Her massage skills were quite good and we had some delightful conversation and the time went by too fast. Gina asked where I need some extra work and by the time I turned over my neck and shoulders were free of the knots I entered with.
As I flipped and once again was able to admire her beauty and incredibly sexy body (it is amazing guys) the rest of the time was filled with the expert moves, sensuosness and skills of a woman who knew what she was doing and knew how to genuinely make a gent satisfied, happy and longing for more. (no more details gents) It was well over an hour when we finished.
To close some of you may call me a shill and that's ok as I will fall back on my reputation on this board. (I might agree that I embellish a bit though lol) But if you want to go to a place that is there to make sure that you are treated like a king and run by folks that appreciate you as paying customers then give it a try. And if you want to see and be touched by a woman that is beautiful, truly sweet and so likable that you want to take her home and put her on a pedistal then go and see Gina. But treat her and the other ladies there right and you will get many happy returns. They are there for you and a little bit of kindness will be returned manyfold.
I did meet Marissa today who was at spa a for many many years and she seems quite sweet also. I also know that 2 other spa a girls work at Celistina's. One is Sonja who I have seen for massages before and also can't wait to see again and Marnie who I had heard was very nice but haven't met yet but would love to. It seems like I have some homework to do so I can report back to you all. Guess someone has to do it! Like I said the players stay the same just the locations change. And in this case it seems CiCi's reputation as a person has brought the cream of the crop with her.
Go there and enjoy yourself. You won't be disappointed. SO
BTW - as a word of warning. As we have seen with Freeky Deeky (aka Melinda after she was invited to leave) and the 2 fake reviews (bad) of Melinda a few months ago (most likely by spa a/b mgmt) you may see some new posters come up with bad reviews of the place or the ladies. Feel free to pm me if you have a question or an issue.
Potentially Dangerous Situation
Always wondered if this was a possibility, guess this post (if genuine) may answer that.
No good can come of this situation.
[QUOTE=Pw Herman; 1176868]Many problems with the post (edited) but the below is the most troubling. I will not be visiting WW again. Would suggest that you gents carefully read PM's post and decide for yourself. A jealous, watchful SO recording our info does not sit well. JMHO.
Pw. [/QUOTE]
If you are headed to Phoenix.
"How hold on there, Mr. Boston. If you have a Phoenix review, post is in Phoenix so we know where to find it."
Let me tell you why this is here.
I recently went to Phoenix, and ahead of the trip I did a little research through BackPage. I called several potential providers, and first off I have to say that the friendly attitudes of most of them were a refreshing change from the jaded attitudes I have too often found here.
I made an appt with one for an outcall massage, and had an absolutely fantastic time. As has been my own personal policy for years, I will not provide details, but it was right up there with the best, and made her an immediate ATF.
I asked this fun lady if she wanted me to post a review, and she said no at first, because she does not really want local Phx guys. In fact, I was her first Boston guy, and she recently had a session with another, and she is very impressed with "us".
What we decided is that I will be her "screener" for Boston. If you are headed to Phx, please PM me, and I will help you connect with her, and recommend a couple of others who I did not make an appt with, but who were very likely prospects.
Sorry I cannot provide more details, but I have to respect her wishes and help her remain discreet and safe. I'll tell you this much: she is very attractive (IMHO) , has a very friendly attitude, and real massage technique. Reasonable rate, too, as do the other providers I contacted. Enough to make you move out there!
Cheers,
Mr Boston