Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3321072]I read this post and thought, wow this is a good analogy of some aspects of my life. It was well written, intellectual with some truly insightful thoughts and comments. It made me step back and think to the point that I discussed it with a very good monger friend of mine who knows me very well. His comment about it was. "That from an outsiders viewpoint, someone who would read a few of your posts, that would be the normal conclusion of the average reader. However they don't know you like I do and they don't know what you have been through or had to deal with over the past few years. They don't know where your heart truly is".

I then told him what Crissee had texted me earlier that day. I had texted her "I love all the gossip on the Octagon, don't you? I was surprised when she responded, her first response in weeks, with "Yep reading gossip reminds me of the girls bathroom in Jr High. Amazing how spiteful and nasty people get for attention but you got to do what you got to do to fulfill whatever emptiness one may have inside. I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it".

We both reached the same conclusion that it's very possible that this post and her text had some very similar verbiage. A similar analogy. It was also interesting that the monger that posted this has only two other posts in the past two weeks in the mongers in search or thread. Both of those posts could have been a provider inquiry looking for a partner for duos. That being said I really don't know if this is a long time lurker with new posts or Crissee. It really doesn't make any difference either way because the intellect behind the post is good and Crissee has a very intellectual side when she want's use it.

So my short answer to the post is thank you for your insight. Yes I am involved in other organizations that help addicts. I am a long time member of NA and Nar-Anon as well as other organizations that work with addicts in many ways. I find it fulfilling. I try not to see addicts, but as we all know, sometimes it's difficult to determine that until you meet them. When I discover they are addicts, I stop seeing them. However, even then addicts, like Crissee, are great liars and deception is paramount. The key here is am I like the Tinder example. I do play the "Good Guy" however when I get a match and I don't get a response, I move on. The reason is because it's only a simple inquiry, nothing more. Why get pissed at someone you know nothing about. Crissee however, was not an inquiry, when sober, she showed me a side of her that gave me hope that she was on the path to regaining her humanity. That in itself is worth the fight, the posts, the embarrassment of myself on this board. I have nothing to lose but my reputation and that would only be with those that don't truly know me. Yet she has everything to gain if something good, something clean, something positive results from my behavior.

So whether the above post is Crissee or a monger named Eajry. Thank you for the insight it was a pleasure to interact with your intellect.[/QUOTE]If your addicted friend wrote that then she has some pretty lucid moments and apparently sees you in a different light than your close friend. Would probably be a good session for you and the shrink to discuss. Your post do tend to be vindictive and obsessed. If you want to report about someone using report it then let it go. If mongers still want to see them its on them. After your Ursula writing your credibility on the drug issue is suspect. You don't help addiction by taking a person to their pharmacies. As far as this being for principle addicts have none and you know this. If your going to give money to addicts quit crying when you don't get it back because you know its lost. Make your post about known addicts and move on. You might also touch on the drama issue with the shrink. That seems like something that you relish and actively seek out.

I have been doing this for 6 months and being careful and picky on who I choose to see I have not had any serious issues. Have some questions for everyone out there.

How often and how much do you tip a provider? Do you tip on a first visit or only after you have seen her a time or two?

I often as the provider if I can bring them anything on my way. Typically it's a coffee or soda of some type which is no big deal. A few weeks ago I stopped at McDs to get a drink for someone. As I walked in I saw a friend of mine, no big deal, I have a good excuse for being where I was. But it got me thinking, to what extent to you go to make sure you can't be recognized or your car recognized anywhere?

I don't monger close to home. But I do have some small recognizable things on my car. Do you take these things off? Or don't worry about it?

[QUOTE=CinciScubaDude;3321835]I have been doing this for 6 months and being careful and picky on who I choose to see I have not had any serious issues. Have some questions for everyone out there.

How often and how much do you tip a provider? Do you tip on a first visit or only after you have seen her a time or two?

I often as the provider if I can bring them anything on my way. Typically it's a coffee or soda of some type which is no big deal. A few weeks ago I stopped at McDs to get a drink for someone. As I walked in I saw a friend of mine, no big deal, I have a good excuse for being where I was. But it got me thinking, to what extent to you go to make sure you can't be recognized or your car recognized anywhere?

I don't monger close to home. But I do have some small recognizable things on my car. Do you take these things off? Or don't worry about it?[/QUOTE]It is always a chance you will be seem. My fear is my vechile will get messed with or damaged while I am busy inside. The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.

Who left there phone out and about so your fiance could get a hold of it? I just got this message " How do you know my fiance?" First time ever in this hobby for me.

I only have one thing to say, " Gentlemen hide your phone's, delete your messages, bury your burner phone. I do not like to be put in this spot. ".

VR.

[QUOTE=TapThat;3321851]It is always a chance you will be seem. My fear is my vechile will get messed with or damaged while I am busy inside. The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.[/QUOTE]I don't think any of them saw me, but I saw them. If they were alone, I may have said something. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate one of us approaching them, when they are with someone. Just as you or I wouldn't appreciate them approaching us.

When Remmy & I used to go to the Race track she'd always say In a whisper, "oh I see one of my clients" she never did anything to bring attention to any of them. I think in most cases even if both parties see each other it will be nothing more than a glance or a smile and that'd be it.

One, that I saw a couple times at the Taco Bell in Cov, was Fantacy Fancy aka Felicia. She has disappeared. Anyone know about her where abouts or well being? She was always super cool with me. Not to mention she could suck the chrome off a Harley. I hope she is well. If anyone knows her contact info and cares to share, pm me.

[QUOTE=TapThat;3321851]It is always a chance you will be seem. My fear is my vechile will get messed with or damaged while I am busy inside. The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.[/QUOTE]That has happened with me and a local provider. Luckily she is very cool and didn't say anything. Smile and move on.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3321130]If your addicted friend wrote that then she has some pretty lucid moments and apparently sees you in a different light than your close friend. Would probably be a good session for you and the shrink to discuss. Your post do tend to be vindictive and obsessed. If you want to report about someone using report it then let it go. If mongers still want to see them its on them. After your Ursula writing your credibility on the drug issue is suspect. You don't help addiction by taking a person to their pharmacies. As far as this being for principle addicts have none and you know this. If your going to give money to addicts quit crying when you don't get it back because you know its lost. Make your post about known addicts and move on. You might also touch on the drama issue with the shrink. That seems like something that you relish and actively seek out.[/QUOTE]She has very lucid moments, that's the times I saw the true potential in her. Of course she doesn't see me in the same light as my friend because she was caught being a liar and a master at deception. Active addicts hate it when they are caught and called out on their addictive behavior. You see vindictive and obsessed, I see passionate resolve. Ursula was a unique situation, something that most people could never understand. However if you really read the story, you would remember that I admitted my mistakes and my enabling behavior. I never cried about the money with Crissee, hell I even joked about it. Money was never the issue. As far as the drama, well as my friend has said in the past, you have always been the crusader not the pragmatist. I keep him around because he is pragmatic and I keep hoping some of it will rub off on me.

Now here is a suggestion for you. If you don't like what is on television stop watching the same distasteful show and change the channel to something more palatable. The same goes for my posts.

[QUOTE=TapThat;3321851] The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.[/QUOTE]The answer to this, whether you are a man or woman-- is keep your mouth shut and keep on walking. Discretion is the name of the game. There is no reason that we should be speaking at Walmart or Applebee's. Nothing good comes from a lack of discretion and you never know what is going on the personal lives of others!!

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;3321968]I don't think any of them saw me, but I saw them. If they were alone, I may have said something. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate one of us approaching them, when they are with someone. Just as you or I wouldn't appreciate them approaching us.

When Remmy & I used to go to the Race track she'd always say In a whisper, "oh I see one of my clients" she never did anything to bring attention to any of them. I think in most cases even if both parties see each other it will be nothing more than a glance or a smile and that'd be it.

One, that I saw a couple times at the Taco Bell in Cov, was Fantacy Fancy aka Felicia. She has disappeared. Anyone know about her where abouts or well being? She was always super cool with me. Not to mention she could suck the chrome off a Harley. I hope she is well. If anyone knows her contact info and cares to share, pm me.[/QUOTE]Funny you should mention Fantacy Fancy haven't heard that name in a while, she had the biggest clit I've seen in a while. I saw Little Allie once at a Thorntons I was with the wife she just smiled and said nothing. I wonder what happened to her I know she ripped some people off but I never had a problem with her, she even came to my house a few times never anything missing. She was very cool once you got to know her. HL29.

[QUOTE=CinciScubaDude;3321835]I have been doing this for 6 months and being careful and picky on who I choose to see I have not had any serious issues. Have some questions for everyone out there.

How often and how much do you tip a provider? Do you tip on a first visit or only after you have seen her a time or two?

I often as the provider if I can bring them anything on my way. Typically it's a coffee or soda of some type which is no big deal. A few weeks ago I stopped at McDs to get a drink for someone. As I walked in I saw a friend of mine, no big deal, I have a good excuse for being where I was. But it got me thinking, to what extent to you go to make sure you can't be recognized or your car recognized anywhere?

I don't monger close to home. But I do have some small recognizable things on my car. Do you take these things off? Or don't worry about it?[/QUOTE]I don't usually tip. When I do, it's because I didn't have the exact amount on me, so I end up tipping by default. I prefer to keep it simple and not create an expectation that I have more than what I really do.

I have an old car that I keep partly because it's great for mongering. It won't stand out in a lower income neighborhood or notel parking lot, but it's still in good enough shape that it won't draw attention in a nicer area either. When possible, I park out of sight from the provider's place about a block away and walk over. If you're talking about a distinctive bumper sticker or something like that, you may want to get rid of it. You never know which providers have lurkers close by.

I've encountered a provider in public only once in the last 5-6 years. This provider is no longer active. It was very close to a place I was working at the time, so I was worried she'd put two and two together and find me through social media or something. She definitely recognized me and her demeanor was unfriendly, but she didn't say anything and I acted as though I didn't recognize her. Not sure why she gave me a bad vibe, as our one encounter was ok. I guess she was afraid I would out her or she didn't feel too good about having been a provider.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3321072]

I then told him what Crissee had texted me earlier that day. I had texted her "I love all the gossip on the Octagon, don't you? I was surprised when she responded, her first response in weeks, with "Yep reading gossip reminds me of the girls bathroom in Jr High. Amazing how spiteful and nasty people get for attention but you got to do what you got to do to fulfill whatever emptiness one may have inside. I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it".

[/QUOTE]Mongers experiences with her are much more that a bunch of High school girls talking in the bathroom.

Its sharing experiences of how dangerous she is including, theft from other mongers, turning in drug dealers and being instrumental in sending them to prison, comments from her own family that she may have killed her father, being an active drug addict and placing everyone that she is with at risk, turning her ex brother in law into ICE and getting him deported, actively working with LEO to diminish her charges. And on and on. Those are not rumors a bunch of high school girls talk about those are personal experiences many of us have had, including me. When I quit seeing her it was because she felt invincible (after all she was THE Crissee) and her last comment is absolutely true " I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it". Most business women work hard at making sure their brand is not tainted, not her.

Like I said before, pick anyone you want to play with including her, but whether it is her or any other woman, do your research and know what risk your putting yourself in.

I don't usually tip independent providers (I am not going into the question of whether they are truly independent. I consider them to be independent if they make their own appointments). On a few occasions, when I have seen a particular lady several times, I may bring a gift. I do tip massage parlor ladies. That is part of the whole deal there.

Part of my judgment about whether or not I feel safe in a place is whether or not I am willing to leave my car parked there for an hour or so. I have a parking tag from my work, and I take it down when I am pursuing the hobby. Probably doesn't make much difference, because my license plate is the real identifier, but I do it anyway.

On two occasions, I have been out with members of my family and encountered providers whom I have used. On one occasion, we passed each other on the street. On the other, the provider was working in a restaurant where I ate. In both cases, we ignored each other. I don't even know if they recognized me, but I recognized them. Once, a session ended early, because, as the lady and I were getting undressed, she said, "Aren't you related to. ," a friend of hers outside of the hobby / business, and we decided that we couldn't go through with it.

[QUOTE=Golden3;3322686]

Once, a session ended early, because, as the lady and I were getting undressed, she said, "Aren't you related to. ," a friend of hers outside of the hobby / business, and we decided that we couldn't go through with it.[/QUOTE]I am sure it happens that some of the ladies we encounter knows someone we know but that would freak me out.

I think you did the right thing. I could not imagine if some one in my family were to say "Oh provider so and so said you stopped by. Did you have a good time?

I try my best to stay anonymous. If it happened to me I probably would not come out for a while.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

How up to date is the info that is posted on this site. So of the ladies reviewed on it haven't posted anything in a very long time. It list their info and sometimes as I read the reviews it seems like some of the reviews on this site, but dated late. Just wanted to see how recent the reviews are.

Thanks for any info.

[QUOTE=TapThat;3328432]How up to date is the info that is posted on this site. So of the ladies reviewed on it haven't posted anything in a very long time. It list their info and sometimes as I read the reviews it seems like some of the reviews on this site, but dated late. Just wanted to see how recent the reviews are.

Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]I think they went under a long time ago. Info is dated and not current. If three year info is your thing, go for it. Otherwise ignore it.

I wish there were some quality providers here in Northern Kentucky that work more than just Bankers hours.

[QUOTE=FireNice49;3328475]I wish there were some quality providers here in Northern Kentucky that work more than just Bankers hours.[/QUOTE]There are keep reaching out. Littlesexyass, AshleighDD, Sydney Moore all come to mind.

[QUOTE=Glockman;3328457]I think they went under a long time ago. Info is dated and not current. If three year info is your thing, go for it. Otherwise ignore it.[/QUOTE]Outdated info for sure is not my thing, I appreciate the quick response.

[QUOTE=TapThat;3328606]Outdated info for sure is not my thing, I appreciate the quick response.[/QUOTE]No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3329096]No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. I thought it eventually folded after their founder was arrested.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3329096]No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.[/QUOTE]I also posted a review on it a few months ago. And a couple days later it was up.

[QUOTE=Mbgbe696;3329876]I also posted a review on it a few months ago. And a couple days later it was up.[/QUOTE]This is what I was wondering because some reviews are fairly recent and the ladies don't or have had ads up. But reviews are still being posted and hoping to commect with some of the ladies.

[QUOTE=IslandDreams;3322477]Mongers experiences with her are much more that a bunch of High school girls talking in the bathroom.

Its sharing experiences of how dangerous she is including, theft from other mongers, turning in drug dealers and being instrumental in sending them to prison, comments from her own family that she may have killed her father, being an active drug addict and placing everyone that she is with at risk, turning her ex brother in law into ICE and getting him deported, actively working with LEO to diminish her charges. And on and on. Those are not rumors a bunch of high school girls talk about those are personal experiences many of us have had, including me. When I quit seeing her it was because she felt invincible (after all she was THE Crissee) and her last comment is absolutely true " I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it". Most business women work hard at making sure their brand is not tainted, not her.

Like I said before, pick anyone you want to play with including her, but whether it is her or any other woman, do your research and know what risk your putting yourself in.[/QUOTE]Conducting a visit / dream with this young lady is a significant risk if half of what is communicated in the aforementioned post is accurate. I am not questioning the vality or accuracy of the post, but that seems to be extreme and dangerous behavior that reflects a disregard for self and others. I believe this is one reason why it is essential that we mongers provide accurate descriptions of the services and other observations we notice during our encounters. Understandably what may constitute outstanding service to one, may be rated as average or below my others. But the presence of drug paraphernalia and fresh needle marks are pretty much evidence of a dependence. I don't wish ill of no one and hope what ever trials and tribulations that one is enduring will pass expeditously. Be safe guys and as shared in the previous post. Do your research.

[QUOTE=Glockman;3329577]I stand corrected. I thought it eventually folded after their founder was arrested.[/QUOTE]Your assumption is understandable. TER cut ties with the founder 8 years ago after he was charged with assault and conspiracy to traffic in drugs among other charges. He was the founder of course but he wasn't the sole owner and he was accused of extorting sex from a lot of the girls in exchange for positive reviews.


[blue]I get accused of that all the time. Some guys must think I have a 6,000 mile long dick

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3330138]Your assumption is understandable. TER cut ties with the founder 8 years ago after he was charged with assault and conspiracy to traffic in drugs among other charges. He was the founder of course but he wasn't the sole owner and he was accused of extorting sex from a lot of the girls in exchange for positive reviews.


[blue]I get accused of that all the time. Some guys must think I have a 6,000 mile long dick

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I never thought that about you A2. I figured 3 or 4 thousand miles. Tops.

[blue]I'd lie cheat and steal for a Molly, Silkey spin off though. I tell you I'd do that without even thinking.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=TapThat;3329989]This is what I was wondering because some reviews are fairly recent and the ladies don't or have had ads up. But reviews are still being posted and hoping to commect with some of the ladies.[/QUOTE]The high end ladies I have seen prefer TER. They wanted me to review them on TER. But I like USASG better.

You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3331269]You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.[/QUOTE]You just saved me a bunch of typing.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3331269]You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.[/QUOTE]I add when contacting them if I don't here back by whatever time I decide to give them to respond that I will contact someone else. Very seldom will you get a random call unless your dealing with the chemical users.

Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;3321859]Who left there phone out and about so your fiance could get a hold of it? I just got this message " How do you know my fiance?" First time ever in this hobby for me.

I only have one thing to say, " Gentlemen hide your phone's, delete your messages, bury your burner phone. I do not like to be put in this spot. ".

VR.[/QUOTE]Hon, you should have said, "I sell faux fragrances and I tried to sell him some, but he said he would only buy the real thing for you. " Obviously he didn't have any text messages stored, one hopes, or else she was fishing.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3330844]I never thought that about you A2. I figured 3 or 4 thousand miles. Tops.

[blue]I'd lie cheat and steal for a Molly, Silkey spin off though. I tell you I'd do that without even thinking.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I suspect all you would have to do is send them a ticket and make sure they have a passport, LOL.

Cheech.

There is no such thing as being too careful. And most of us really, really appreciate that. Keep it up.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3331989]Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3331989]Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.[/QUOTE]CL-.

You can't be too careful. Missing out on one client is a lot cheaper than a lawyer for getting busted, etc. Speaking for myself, your being careful makes it safer for me as well. You do what feels right for you!

And no, we haven't connected- yet.

The good dr.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3331989]Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.[/QUOTE]I have seen you and enjoyed our time together.

Your screening process is totally understandable. You have more to lose than most girls.

And I need discretion too.

Stay safe and have fun along the way.

Rusty.

[QUOTE=CrissyLynn2015;3331989]Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.[/QUOTE]We have spent several Magical moments together. Tho its been a while, because of your new hour available. You have to take care of you, just like we gentelman try to do. You have always had good thing said about you. Stand your ground. A couple of ben franklin aren't worth the risk. Take care sexy OBR.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;3332111]Hon, you should have said, "I sell faux fragrances and I tried to sell him some, but he said he would only buy the real thing for you. " Obviously he didn't have any text messages stored, one hopes, or else she was fishing.

Cheech.[/QUOTE]Guys, get cameras. Good ones.

Because if the SO asks about strange messages on your phone, you can always say you got paid taking the lady's picture. Wink!

However this will not work if you see one of the ladies from TN who are also professional photograpers outside the hobby. Sad face.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3331269]You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.[/QUOTE]I give 2 hours between the my text to girl #1, to girl #2. Often enough, I finally get a reply back from #1 offering availability, to which I just simply say, "Sorry. It's been X hours and thought you might not be available so I contacted someone else. Perhaps next time. ".

This does 2 things. First, it let's them know that unlike boyfriends or suitors, customers will not wait forever because there are other options. Second, if they don't delete the messages (good or bad, is a debate for another time), the next time I send them a message, they will see from the previous message that unlike some other mongers, I am not the type that will wait around forever. I get a faster response to set up an appointment.

Cost to me, $0 for moving on. Cost to them $$ and the chance of paying their rent.

[QUOTE=DNut;3332719]I give 2 hours between the my text to girl #1, to girl #2. Often enough, I finally get a reply back from #1 offering availability, to which I just simply say, "Sorry. It's been X hours and thought you might not be available so I contacted someone else. Perhaps next time. ".

This does 2 things. First, it let's them know that unlike boyfriends or suitors, customers will not wait forever because there are other options. Second, if they don't delete the messages (good or bad, is a debate for another time), the next time I send them a message, they will see from the previous message that unlike some other mongers, I am not the type that will wait around forever. I get a faster response to set up an appointment.

Cost to me, $0 for moving on. Cost to them $$ and the chance of paying their rent.[/QUOTE]I text 3 or 4 and let them race to see who answers first. But I did get burned by SincyCinnamon who double booked me so it cuts both ways.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;3329096]No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.[/QUOTE]I have found TER to be a pretty reliable tool, especially for trying to find info on traveling providers or providers that are not listing with USA. It in some respects easier to navigate than some sites as all of a girls' reviews are typically located in one place. Even if you are not a paying member of TER you can easily get contact info, posting site (s), physical description, and if they are real or scam. The 'general details' part of the review usually tells you if a reviewing monger would repeat or not and if the set up was easy or difficult. If a provider has several reviews listed you can easily ascertain if that they are legit. If you decide to pay the monthly fee (or post a couple reviews a month) you get to see the juicy details of the review which should tell ya whether they provide what you are interested in purchasing. USA is more up to date with current talent and certainly provides great info and valuable input about the local scene. When I see a post on USA that I find interesting I use TER as one of the tools to do further research. Be careful out there.