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[QUOTE=RDUmassage;2388571]I like Westgate because all the girls are in their 30's. Holiday has a few in their 30's and Eden has two girls. I have ventured out to Capital blvd and the ladies out there are in their 40's or maybe even 50's and that is not for me since I am a young pup in my 20's. Where are the girls who are actually in their 20's?[/QUOTE]The AMP biz is a business just like any other, and the people who run them are smart businessmen like any other. Those lovely 20-somethings are like "prize fillies", staying in the more profitable markets. Sorry so say, but the Triangle is essentially "the pasture. " I don't think our area has grown big enough to sustain anything more than the talent they send out our way. Fortunately, over the past 10 years we're seeing the age bracket for providers come down, but it'll be a long while before we see more than the occasional HQ PYT hit the parlors in this area.
There was a girl that I will not name. I will give a sufficient description so that you will know whether you were with her.
She migrated from #3, SuperRelax on Six Forks, to #9 Emily, to currently spending some time at both numbers #34 Colony and #6 Apex. Sometimes she does not seem to be available anywhere then suddenly reappears. She is about 5'2" or 5'3", long black hair, reasonable trim, tattooed eyebrows, and a cute butterfly tramp stamp. I treated her with respect, gave a HE tip even when one was not offered. After about 4 or 5 visits, the HE started happening without asking. I upped my tip amount from. 6 to .8. Shortly after that, without asking, I was given unexpected, unrequested FS. Wide open menu after that, BJ, DATY, etc. There was no escalation in the tip amount. Once this all started I just held at .8 and there were no complaints.
I will say, she knows exactly how to use what she has. I have never met a woman who can stimulate you the way she does when you are inside her. It isn't just a back and forth pumping action. She does things that I have never experienced before. It is addictive. That is why I continued even after discovering what is in the next paragraph.
Unfortunately, she did not ask for, or request, protection. She never even gave any warning that she was going to slip me inside of her. It was bareback all the way. Sometimes she would bend over the table at the beginning, let me explode inside her, then she would sit on me at the end of the massage and let me explode again. I was scared that I might have caught something from her so I had myself tested about three months after this started. Yes, this was over two years ago. All tests came out negative except one; Genital Herpes. The test is called HSV2. From PMs, I know that at least two other mongers have had similar experiences with this girl.
If you have had unprotected FS from her, it would be prudent to go to your doctor and get tested for everything. There is no way of knowing what she might have picked up from one monger and passed to another in addition to Herpes. Some things are just not worth the risk no matter how pleasurable they are at the moment.
HSV2?
20% population has it.
Tough to know original source IMO, especially from someone in this hobby.
IF HSV infected poster never had an outbreak, tough to know how long he's been carrying.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2389537]There was a girl that I will not name. I will give a sufficient description so that you will know whether you were with her.
She migrated from #3, SuperRelax on Six Forks, to #9 Emily, to currently spending some time at both numbers #34 Colony and #6 Apex. Sometimes she does not seem to be available anywhere then suddenly reappears. She is about 5'2" or 5'3", long black hair, reasonable trim, tattooed eyebrows, and a cute butterfly tramp stamp. I treated her with respect, gave a HE tip even when one was not offered. After about 4 or 5 visits, the HE started happening without asking. I upped my tip amount from. 6 to .8. Shortly after that, without asking, I was given unexpected, unrequested FS. Wide open menu after that, BJ, DATY, etc. There was no escalation in the tip amount. Once this all started I just held at .8 and there were no complaints.
I will say, she knows exactly how to use what she has. I have never met a woman who can stimulate you the way she does when you are inside her. It isn't just a back and forth pumping action. She does things that I have never experienced before. It is addictive. That is why I continued even after discovering what is in the next paragraph.
Unfortunately, she did not ask for, or request, protection. She never even gave any warning that she was going to slip me inside of her. It was bareback all the way. Sometimes she would bend over the table at the beginning, let me explode inside her, then she would sit on me at the end of the massage and let me explode again. I was scared that I might have caught something from her so I had myself tested about three months after this started. Yes, this was over two years ago. All tests came out negative except one; Genital Herpes. The test is called HSV2. From PMs, I know that at least two other mongers have had similar experiences with this girl.
If you have had unprotected FS from her, it would be prudent to go to your doctor and get tested for everything. There is no way of knowing what she might have picked up from one monger and passed to another in addition to Herpes. Some things are just not worth the risk no matter how pleasurable they are at the moment.[/QUOTE]Damn, man, that's unfortunate. Thanks for reminding us to be careful. That would be a motherfucker to have to explain that to a wife.
It sometimes will happen that they want to offer FS. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BRING A CONDUM whether you expect anything or not. Find I safe place to hide. I always tell them if they get close that I have one. Sometimes if they don't speak much English I actually get off the table and show them. Better to always be safe. In 99% of the cases if you get offered, so has someone else.
For the ones that want to be safe, it sometimes will close the deal. Sorry what happened to you.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2389537]There was a girl that I will not name. I will give a sufficient description so that you will know whether you were with her.
She migrated from #3, SuperRelax on Six Forks, to #9 Emily, to currently spending some time at both numbers #34 Colony and #6 Apex. Sometimes she does not seem to be available anywhere then suddenly reappears. She is about 5'2" or 5'3", long black hair, reasonable trim, tattooed eyebrows, and a cute butterfly tramp stamp. I treated her with respect, gave a HE tip even when one was not offered. After about 4 or 5 visits, the HE started happening without asking. I upped my tip amount from. 6 to .8. Shortly after that, without asking, I was given unexpected, unrequested FS. Wide open menu after that, BJ, DATY, etc. There was no escalation in the tip amount. Once this all started I just held at .8 and there were no complaints.
I will say, she knows exactly how to use what she has. I have never met a woman who can stimulate you the way she does when you are inside her. It isn't just a back and forth pumping action. She does things that I have never experienced before. It is addictive. That is why I continued even after discovering what is in the next paragraph.
Unfortunately, she did not ask for, or request, protection. She never even gave any warning that she was going to slip me inside of her. It was bareback all the way. Sometimes she would bend over the table at the beginning, let me explode inside her, then she would sit on me at the end of the massage and let me explode again. I was scared that I might have caught something from her so I had myself tested about three months after this started. Yes, this was over two years ago. All tests came out negative except one; Genital Herpes. The test is called HSV2. From PMs, I know that at least two other mongers have had similar experiences with this girl.
If you have had unprotected FS from her, it would be prudent to go to your doctor and get tested for everything. There is no way of knowing what she might have picked up from one monger and passed to another in addition to Herpes. Some things are just not worth the risk no matter how pleasurable they are at the moment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John252;2389599]HSV2?
20% population has it.
Tough to know original source IMO, especially from someone in this hobby.
IF HSV infected poster never had an outbreak, tough to know how long he's been carrying.[/QUOTE]In this case I know the source since it was the only source used without protection and I had myself tested a couple of years prior to the encounter.
If, on the off chance she was not the source, then she could easily have picked it up from me and passed it on. Either way, if you had unprotected FS with her, it would be prudent to get yourself tested.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2389537]There was a girl that I will not name. I will give a sufficient description so that you will know whether you were with her.
She migrated from #3, SuperRelax on Six Forks, to #9 Emily, to currently spending some time at both numbers #34 Colony and #6 Apex. Sometimes she does not seem to be available anywhere then suddenly reappears. She is about 5'2" or 5'3", long black hair, reasonable trim, tattooed eyebrows, and a cute butterfly tramp stamp. I treated her with respect, gave a HE tip even when one was not offered. After about 4 or 5 visits, the HE started happening without asking. I upped my tip amount from. 6 to .8. Shortly after that, without asking, I was given unexpected, unrequested FS. Wide open menu after that, BJ, DATY, etc. There was no escalation in the tip amount. Once this all started I just held at .8 and there were no complaints.
I will say, she knows exactly how to use what she has. I have never met a woman who can stimulate you the way she does when you are inside her. It isn't just a back and forth pumping action. She does things that I have never experienced before. It is addictive. That is why I continued even after discovering what is in the next paragraph.
Unfortunately, she did not ask for, or request, protection. She never even gave any warning that she was going to slip me inside of her. It was bareback all the way. Sometimes she would bend over the table at the beginning, let me explode inside her, then she would sit on me at the end of the massage and let me explode again. I was scared that I might have caught something from her so I had myself tested about three months after this started. Yes, this was over two years ago. All tests came out negative except one; Genital Herpes. The test is called HSV2. From PMs, I know that at least two other mongers have had similar experiences with this girl.
If you have had unprotected FS from her, it would be prudent to go to your doctor and get tested for everything. There is no way of knowing what she might have picked up from one monger and passed to another in addition to Herpes. Some things are just not worth the risk no matter how pleasurable they are at the moment.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting this. Out of my years of doing this I've only had unprotected FS with one lady at an AMP, and it took a while to get to that point with her. Not saying I'm the only one, but nobody has even come close to mentioning it publicly on this board, or through PMs, that they've had FS with her. I've been tested since then and all was clear, and have had FS since then with her but always use a condom now. Nice reminder to always be safe!
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2390243]In this case I know the source since it was the only source used without protection and I had myself tested a couple of years prior to the encounter.
If, on the off chance she was not the source, then she could easily have picked it up from me and passed it on. Either way, if you had unprotected FS with her, it would be prudent to get yourself tested.[/QUOTE]Doesn't have to just be BBFS that you can catch this. I don't think the risk is very high, but there is a risk none the less, even if you have covered FS. That's a prob with HSV1 or 2. But hopefully you don't have many outbreaks and this can be easily controlled. Thanks for the heads up.
1. HSV1 and HSV2 are skin to skin infections, like HPV. It is not fluid borne like syphilis or gonorrhea. Condoms only help prevent infection of the skin covered by the condom, which as we all know means there is quite a lot of exposed skin that makes contact with the female genital area. Still, some protection is better than no protection.
2. Most people have never been tested for either HSV1 or HSV2. When people say they've been tested, what they mean is they got the standard battery of tests. This does not include HSV. It typically only includes syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia and HIV. NOBODY tests for HSV without a patient very specifically requesting it. Saying "I want to get tested for everything" just gets you the standard tests, not HSV. I have been tested dozens of times in my life, but only once for HSV. The one time I made that specific request. And even then, they tried to talk me out of it. Don't believe me? Go look at your lab test results.
3. The reason for #2 is because of how widespread it is, how mild it usually is, and how little can be done about it even if a patient is aware they have it.
4. I wouldn't apply general population infection rate of HSV2 to pros. It is undoubtedly much, much higher. Makes sense to inspect her junk for sores before plunging in! Even that is no guarantee (see asymptomatic infection), but at least you improve your odds.
I visited Yucca the other day. (5) Yucca also uses Orient Salon 124 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072. No TS.) I elected to use JimJim's line to help distinguish the AMP. It drives me crazy when a poster says I went to #5 on JimJim's list. Then I have to go back, find the list, you know the drill. Anyway, I've been there before and gotten great and good service. One thing I will say is that the bidding for the tip starts higher, by the girl, than most places but if you stand your ground they'll be happy with $40 for standard. The girl I usually see was gone to New York. I drew a gal in her mid 30's that was cute but only in the AMP sense if you know what I mean. The massage was good but not great. There was absolutely no teasing during the entire massage so I started to think that things were not on track for this P+ place. On the flip she grabbed the oil and started the finale without negotiating. As you can imagine it wasn't that sensual but she did allow UTC roaming and she didn't have a ton of clothes on. So here's the rating:
Looks: 6.
Massage: 7.
HE: 4.
There's no table shower but you will get the full hour massage every time. You can park in back of the building or at the bagel shop next door so it's discrete.
At my favorite Durham place at the crossroads (not sure of the number on the list), made an appointment, Monday morning, so as to be sure it is not busy. I enter and realize I am the only customer there. My regular meets me at the door and escorts me in. She is not the best looking (and she has been running to loose weight and that is working) but in the old Hertz commercial they used to say second best tries harder. I have lived my life with this in mind! I'm no catch either. We have played this little dance out numerous times over the last year or so. I had not been there in a while as I am in a slight economic down turn but it was like I never left.
Opted for 30 min with TS. She does not take any money up front. She comes back into room after I have undressed and I, sitting on the table, give her a big hug, and reach under her shirt to unhook her bra. I get the shirt and bra off in quick order and pay some oral attention to her nipples, which I know she particularly likes. She puts the chair in front of the door, for security, LOL, and I continue this time with hand down her pants and FIV. After a little playful rubbing I turn and lay her on the table and take her pants down. She will not take them off. I continue my nipple ministrations, standing, while giving her a good rubbing. I move her hand to the little soldier and throughout she has the boys gently in hand, which is quite pleasant. In just a few minutes she becomes quite wet and breathy and satisfied, making nary a sound. I lay on the table and she asks if I want oil. I point to her mouth and she gives me a sideways glance and I shrug with arms out, I try to muster a bit of charm, and say with a grin, 'why not?' She proceeds to inhale me until I am in the verge and finishes me off with her hand. We get put together and head for the TS where she is quite attentive, gets me dry, we head back to the room where I give her 1. 20 for the whole event and I scoot down the road. I'll head back in a week or two. It took some time to get her into this routine with minor variations and until she moves on, and they all seem to move on, I'll take it.
[QUOTE=JoelB;2391550]1. HSV1 and HSV2 are skin to skin infections, like HPV. It is not fluid borne like syphilis or gonorrhea. Condoms only help prevent infection of the skin covered by the condom, which as we all know means there is quite a lot of exposed skin that makes contact with the female genital area. Still, some protection is better than no protection.
2. Most people have never been tested for either HSV1 or HSV2. When people say they've been tested, what they mean is they got the standard battery of tests. This does not include HSV. It typically only includes syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia and HIV. NOBODY tests for HSV without a patient very specifically requesting it. Saying "I want to get tested for everything" just gets you the standard tests, not HSV. I have been tested dozens of times in my life, but only once for HSV. The one time I made that specific request. And even then, they tried to talk me out of it. Don't believe me? Go look at your lab test results.
3. The reason for #2 is because of how widespread it is, how mild it usually is, and how little can be done about it even if a patient is aware they have it.
4. I wouldn't apply general population infection rate of HSV2 to pros. It is undoubtedly much, much higher. Makes sense to inspect her junk for sores before plunging in! Even that is no guarantee (see asymptomatic infection), but at least you improve your odds.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. If you go to a medical facility and ask to be tested for STDs most providers will test you for HIV, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Hepatitis. HPV and HSV you usually have to ask for.
And I will say that you would be surprised by how many people in a 100 mile radius have an STD.
Raider.
[QUOTE=LuvMassage;2389537]There was a girl that I will not name. I will give a sufficient description so that you will know whether you were with her.
She migrated from #3, SuperRelax on Six Forks, to #9 Emily, to currently spending some time at both numbers #34 Colony and #6 Apex. Sometimes she does not seem to be available anywhere then suddenly reappears. She is about 5'2" or 5'3", long black hair, reasonable trim, tattooed eyebrows, and a cute butterfly tramp stamp. I treated her with respect, gave a HE tip even when one was not offered. After about 4 or 5 visits, the HE started happening without asking. I upped my tip amount from. 6 to .8. Shortly after that, without asking, I was given unexpected, unrequested FS. Wide open menu after that, BJ, DATY, etc. There was no escalation in the tip amount. Once this all started I just held at .8 and there were no complaints.
I will say, she knows exactly how to use what she has. I have never met a woman who can stimulate you the way she does when you are inside her. It isn't just a back and forth pumping action. She does things that I have never experienced before. It is addictive. That is why I continued even after discovering what is in the next paragraph.
Unfortunately, she did not ask for, or request, protection. She never even gave any warning that she was going to slip me inside of her. It was bareback all the way. Sometimes she would bend over the table at the beginning, let me explode inside her, then she would sit on me at the end of the massage and let me explode again. I was scared that I might have caught something from her so I had myself tested about three months after this started. Yes, this was over two years ago. All tests came out negative except one; Genital Herpes. The test is called HSV2. From PMs, I know that at least two other mongers have had similar experiences with this girl.
If you have had unprotected FS from her, it would be prudent to go to your doctor and get tested for everything. There is no way of knowing what she might have picked up from one monger and passed to another in addition to Herpes. Some things are just not worth the risk no matter how pleasurable they are at the moment.[/QUOTE]So after reading your post I got little bit concerned so I went for my testing and thank god I am clear but thanks man, I will make sure I will never have BBFS ever in my life.
[QUOTE=Jimjim77;2389713]It sometimes will happen that they want to offer FS. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BRING A CONDUM whether you expect anything or not. Find I safe place to hide. I always tell them if they get close that I have one. Sometimes if they don't speak much English I actually get off the table and show them. Better to always be safe. In 99% of the cases if you get offered, so has someone else.
For the ones that want to be safe, it sometimes will close the deal. Sorry what happened to you.[/QUOTE]If he had brought a condom instead of a condum he wouldn't have gotten hsv.