[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6353919]I tried and offered different amounts to girls in FS, no one does FS there.[/QUOTE]Yes some do. You'd be surprised.
As I've always said YMMV!
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[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6353919]I tried and offered different amounts to girls in FS, no one does FS there.[/QUOTE]Yes some do. You'd be surprised.
As I've always said YMMV!
[QUOTE=Bronco;6354511]Yes some do. You'd be surprised.
As I've always said YMMV![/QUOTE]Exactly right. About the same time DoDo's BBBJ orifice was closing, Linda's was opening. And not just Linda's mouth but her legs were willfully spreading, very wide and very often. And this began on her and my first meeting. A benji yielded greater effect last year than now. That's why I'm saving my sheckels for overseas travel. Will cost a few bucks to get to Asia or Europe but once there, the economy is much friendlier for rented pussy. Not only that, food and lodging are still available for reasonable rates. And if you connect with a local, it can get even more interesting.
Having an early 1990's flashback from Germany right now. Ahhhh. The good ol' days.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6354702]Exactly right. About the same time DoDo's BBBJ orifice was closing, Linda's was opening. And not just Linda's mouth but her legs were willfully spreading, very wide and very often. And this began on her and my first meeting. A benji yielded greater effect last year than now. That's why I'm saving my sheckels for overseas travel. Will cost a few bucks to get to Asia or Europe but once there, the economy is much friendlier for rented pussy. Not only that, food and lodging are still available for reasonable rates. And if you connect with a local, it can get even more interesting.
Having an early 1990's flashback from Germany right now. Ahhhh. The good ol' days.[/QUOTE]We were just discussing this topic in the Rants section. It is strange that you can get a 30 year old Romanian girl for 50 eu total, and here you're probably looking at 40 house + 100 tip = 140 minimum. And that was kinda pre-pandemic. Some locals are charging more like 40 + 160 = 200. I guess for 50 eu you don't get any massage at all, and you only get 20 minutes, but you also get a private room with a sink to wash up, and a free condom. And Germany is not a 3rd world country. So that begs the question as to why prices are so high here.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6354716]We were just discussing this topic in the Rants section. It is strange that you can get a 30 year old Romanian girl for 50 eu total, and here you're probably looking at 40 house + 100 tip = 140 minimum. And that was kinda pre-pandemic. Some locals are charging more like 40 + 160 = 200. I guess for 50 eu you don't get any massage at all, and you only get 20 minutes, but you also get a private room with a sink to wash up, and a free condom. And Germany is not a 3rd world country. So that begs the question as to why prices are so high here.[/QUOTE]Because it is legal in Germany. US is the greatest country in the world, but very late on changing policies.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6355029]Because it is legal in Germany. US is the greatest country in the world, but very late on changing policies.[/QUOTE]Dentistry is legal in the US, but an implant might cost 10 times what it costs in Mexico, Spain, Turkey or Poland. Apartments are legal in the US, but an apartment in an EU city might be $600 while its $1800 here.
I think the thing is that we have a classic supply-and-demand situation. We are the demanders and the local girls are the suppliers. Some shops realize they make more money by keeping their prices low ($40) but make it up in volume, whereas other shops charge $50-60, but they sit around checking their social media many more hours per day.
In the same way with the services provided by the girls, they have upped their prices. By themselves for no other reason than they wanted more money. They talk about inflation and other bullshit, but they don't experience inflation. They are working 6 days a week and sending their money to China. They are not paying rent, buying cars, going on vacations, etc.
So (as has been discussed here several previous times), we need to do the same thing, and work collectively to lower prices. I do it all the time. When they tell me high prices, I get "sticker shock" and turn things down. I am willing to not book in a shop charging too much. I tell girls and PPS's I would be here every week but since your prices went up, now I come once a month. This is an effort to provide a feedback loop to let them know they need to do a course correction, otherwise they can sit around with no customers more often, and their bottom line will suffer.
Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers!
It is basically a FS shop.
[QUOTE=HandyLover;6355591]Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HandyLover;6355591]Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Well done. Very well done.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6354189]Yes you described it perfectly. Apparently there is a MP Teamsters Union and on their own they decided they want to give themselves a giant raise from $100 k to $150 K tax free a year. However, most of the girls downstairs at SH will still take 40 without complaint.[/QUOTE]After getting so comfortable with BW, I haven't bothered venturing out in quite some time. The only thing new I've had for years has been Air Body, not as great as the massage offered at BW, but a little bit more for the same price as BW. In your opinion, is SH worth?
[QUOTE=HandyLover;6355591]Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I went there maybe five or six times, five six seven maybe eight years ago. It was. 5 hh even then, but the service nearly always was outstanding. CFS for $. Then it happened. One of the fine women made conversation with me in the lobby like she wouldn't mind going to dinner with me. MMS asked if I was married. I told the truth. Then MMS said something really evil about my wife. Now, as severely troubled as the sexual relationship is, and I mean gross hostility despite the rest of the marriage being comforting, I wish my wife everything good and nothing evil. MMS's hostility really got to me, and I haven't been back since.
Lift Her Up.
[QUOTE=HandyLover;6355591]
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I like the location, convenient for on the way home, it's been $50 for as long as I remember.
10+ years ago, the girls were good looking, so I forked over the 50 plus 100 but the talent went down hill. Way down hill IMO.
I would go there from time to time, ask to see the on call girl, who would come out in a slinky dress, and 9 times out of ten I didn't think they would be worth it, so I left.
I haven't been back after COVID (do they still have the manned testing in front of the door in the parking lot?) - but prior, for probably 8 year, I'd go every six months or so & repeat that routine, ask who they had, and leave.
Never did they get the clue & drop to $40 - surprised they have survived COVID.
The must have gotten some of that free SBA PPP money.
Well, first of all they don't have same insurance system there. In my opinion (I am not a democrat) healthcare should be free. My sibling and parents are healthcare workers, otherwise insurance companies charge x10 of what real cost is. This is just a scam, since they are party donors no one addresses this. I am in construction and can tell you real estate costs more because of minimum pay plus dumb regulations. Has nothing to do with geography.
I will agree on working towards lowering prices. Most of the time my game is to act as if I came only to get massage and don't want HJ or FS. Then girls start to offer lower prices themselves, lowest I went was $20 some AMP on Bolsa for HJ and $50 for FS with Lucy. Each time that was only cash I had And those greedy bitches wanted it.
Same regulation.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6355570]Dentistry is legal in the US, but an implant might cost 10 times what it costs in Mexico, Spain, Turkey or Poland. Apartments are legal in the US, but an apartment in an EU city might be $600 while its $1800 here.
I think the thing is that we have a classic supply-and-demand situation. We are the demanders and the local girls are the suppliers. Some shops realize they make more money by keeping their prices low ($40) but make it up in volume, whereas other shops charge $50-60, but they sit around checking their social media many more hours per day.
In the same way with the services provided by the girls, they have upped their prices. By themselves for no other reason than they wanted more money. They talk about inflation and other bullshit, but they don't experience inflation. They are working 6 days a week and sending their money to China. They are not paying rent, buying cars, going on vacations, etc.
So (as has been discussed here several previous times), we need to do the same thing, and work collectively to lower prices. I do it all the time. When they tell me high prices, I get "sticker shock" and turn things down. I am willing to not book in a shop charging too much. I tell girls and PPS's I would be here every week but since your prices went up, now I come once a month. This is an effort to provide a feedback loop to let them know they need to do a course correction, otherwise they can sit around with no customers more often, and their bottom line will suffer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Taws6;6355740]I like the location, convenient for on the way home, it's been $50 for as long as I remember.
10+ years ago, the girls were good looking, so I forked over the 50 plus 100 but the talent went down hill. Way down hill IMO.
I would go there from time to time, ask to see the on call girl, who would come out in a slinky dress, and 9 times out of ten I didn't think they would be worth it, so I left.
I haven't been back after COVID (do they still have the manned testing in front of the door in the parking lot?) - but prior, for probably 8 year, I'd go every six months or so & repeat that routine, ask who they had, and leave.
Never did they get the clue & drop to $40 - surprised they have survived COVID.
The must have gotten some of that free SBA PPP money.[/QUOTE]Yes, the girl told that the covid center is still there.
[QUOTE=HandyLover;6355591]Went to Sunnywell in Santa Ana. Met at the door by short 60 something MMS. Took $50 for 30 minutes! I was like what? But a saw the hot masseuse so figured ok! Got in the room, laid down, and Tiffany came in. About 5'6 or so, slim, tight red short dress, seemed like B cups, 30 yrs old, and pretty face. She gave a nice back massage for about 5-6 min, no tease but good conversation. She had a great personality at the beginning of this. She then told me to flip and asked what I wanted, I gestured HJ and she said $100 with top down. I laughed and said that's way too much. She then said $60 but limited touching and top up. At that point I thought to myself, I am not a cheapskate by any means, and will tip well when it is warranted, but I am not about to spend $110 on a 15-20 min HJ. So I got up, said sorry that is too much for little service and got dressed. Her personality completely changed, she didn't say a word and she walked out. When I walked out of the room the MMS had my $50 ready and I said sorry to waste your time and walked out. No comments from the MMS either.
As hot as the girl was, I work hard for my money and they need to work just as hard to earn it.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I have walked out myself once or twice. But in this case, she is not too unreasonable. 60 is the new 40, even with less attractive women. So she was not all that unreasonable. Except the bit about not doing much massage at all. Even the worst ones go through some motions. But if the girl is nice and hot, then I could give up the massage in exchange for the beauty factor. Your description is almost exactly Tiffany at TT. Its a fact of reality that a young pretty girl is simply more valuable than an older "5 out of 10" girl. Many of the hotter ones want more like 80 even. I am really surprised they gave you your money back.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6355029]Because it is legal in Germany. US is the greatest country in the world, but very late on changing policies.[/QUOTE]NO its not Far from it.