Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HardToTame;2594067]Got Ellie as a massage therapist (cute girl). I told her that 60 dollars was cost advertised online. She stated that is has always been 80, no problem I said. Table shower was good and clean. Then she keep harping that she was certified and the cost was 80, because the Chinese and koreans are cheap and service is bad. After shower we went back to the therapy room which was nice and clean. Then the massage started, which started as a whole body rub, I told her to go harder, she seemed upset that I requested a strong massage. She finished in 20 minutes, and me flip and requested a tip before anything happens. I pulled out money. 4 for relief. She stood by my feet so no touching. The place is nice, but the therapist was only talking about money mostly, which ruins the mood. Rating for massage 3 to 4. I would not return.[/QUOTE]I feel for you, amigo; many of us have (unfortunately) tolerated this sort of substandard behavior and (just as unfortunate) not done anything when it happened. Yet, here was a perfect instance to put this sort of treatment in its place. The 'prelude' (namely, the harping and complaining during the shower, the upset attitude when asking for harder pressure, etc.) should prepare your mind that the session will likely leave you unsatisfied or very unimpressed.

When she finished in 20 minutes and requested a tip before continuing, that would have been the time to act.
[INDENT][list]Climb down off the table.[/list][list]Get dressed.[/list][list]Depart, leaving no tip (or, perhaps a very small tip, like .05).[/list][/INDENT]
The look of surprise on a therapist's face, once she realizes what you're doing and when she figures out the sort of tip she's going to get, can often be very amusing. Sometimes, she will begin making a scene, which can cause the MMS to come out of the 'office'. At that point, you can explain to the MMS what happened, telling her that you were shorted on time and that the therapist was complaining, etc. , and that you will be taking future business elsewhere.

Granted, your session won't end any better, but it will at least save you some wasted tip money and give you the satisfaction of having solved this sort of problem for some future mongers. Also, that therapist will likely not be working there or at other area AMPs much longer. And, you can apply the. 4 tip that you saved toward a massage at a better location. I still remember the reactions I got the first time I took this course of action, when I got bad service and decided that I didn't want a sour therapist giving me a mechanical finish (at best). It's not easy to do, when you're already on the table, but it is necessary when you get this kind of service. More of us have all too often succumbed to the alternative.

Live and learn, my friend.

[QUOTE=Derringer;2593923]She specifically told me she is from Thailand. I don't know why she would be misleading about that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kijimuna;2593714]Nikki is Lao, but close enough.[/QUOTE]She could be both. Or she figures that Americans don't know the difference anyway.

[QUOTE=Derringer;2593923]There are several ladies named "Nikki" out there. This is the lady I am referring to:

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-by-nikki/14084942[/URL]

She specifically told me she is from Thailand. I don't know why she would be misleading about that.

Bottom-line: She looks just like her pictures. If you like them and want a great massage, give her a try![/QUOTE]Many Lao end up living in Isaan Thailand, Nong Khai, Ubon Ratchathani, etc before moving to the US. She is defiantly Lao. I speak Thai fairy well and ended up speaking more Isaan dialect with her.

That is a pretty steep price for just hand release. What kind of access is there to the body and body parts you speak so highly of?

[QUOTE=Derringer;2594016][URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/total-full-body-massage-by-jane/18507719[/URL]

Jane is a Russian MILF with a very sexy accent. She does not have pics in her BP ad, but she is fair-skinned with a nice face and very pretty eyes. But her best feature is her wonderful breasts! Let's just say she is fully equipped to rock some cleavage! She has a shapely, mature body which I find attractive. Also, she is smart and can carry on a nice conversation while she works, without being too chatty. I was able to relax right away and really enjoy my time with her.

Jane works out of a private residence near Tysons. It is clean and safe in a nice neighbrhood. There is a big parking lot and lots of units, so it is not obvious as to why you are there. She has massage training, which is clear from the moment she lays hands on you. She has a heated massage table and uses high quality, fluffy towels and fresh linens. She uses non-scented massage oil that leaves no noticable residue.

Jane meets you at the her door wearing sexy lingerie, showing off her creamy, smooth skin with her stunning breasts popping out! One time she wore a lacy bra and panty set and sexy stockings. What a hottie! Unfortunately, she made it clear before the session that her clothes would remain on. (YMMV, but I doubt it.) She invited me to get comfortable while she briefly stepped out of her dimly lit studio to give me some privacy.

After I layed face down, she came back in and began a solid, deep tissue massage. She began with long, sensual strokes on my back and legs. When she found a knotted muscle, she would linger and even knead the spot with her elbow. Before the flip, she also did a nice massage of my butt, letting her fingers glide into certain areas just enough to foreshadow what delights were coming up. I'd say the massage lasted a good 45-50 minutes.

After the flip I got another good look at her luscious, curvy body. Like I said, she is stacked! She massaged my feet, then my shoulders, arms and hands before moving on to the real fun. Next she coated her hands with oil and slowly began massaging more sensitive areas. She knows what she is doing, and gets the job done in spectacular fashion.

Afterwards, she left me alone to get dressed and told me I could relax alone as long as I wanted. She is clearly not a clock watcher. When I got up to leave she gave me some Russian chocolate and a bottle of water for the road. I felt so relaxed. I began looking forward to my next visit before I even drove out of her parking lot. I recommend you give her a shot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WebDog2015;2594535]That is a pretty steep price for just hand release. What kind of access is there to the body and body parts you speak so highly of?[/QUOTE]Here is a detailed review of Jane I posted a few years ago. I believe it is the same woman. I haven't seen her again because she was not attractive to me but she has really good massage skills.

Jane is a mature BBW Russian woman who has professional training in massage and provides a real massage with a happy ending. If you want more, look elsewhere but if you want a real massage to work out those kinks, Jane has strong hands with a sensual touch that will make you feel better. I didn't find her face attractive but she does have big boobs that are almost popping out of the lingerie that she wears. Most of the hour is spend on your stomach as she massages your back and legs. I was looking for a real massage with the added benefit of a happy ending so I was satisfied but I wish I found Jane more attractive. I didn't push it as far as trying to touch her boobs or getting her to go topless but others say that this is possible.

A good professional massage well over an hour. It was relaxing and my muscles felt better. The massage itself lasted close to an hour before she asked me to turn over. Then she rubbed the massage oil over my balls and cock and started lightly touching my balls and cock and I was hard as a rock in a second. She starts out with slow light touches before stroking my cock faster and harder while massaging my balls at the same time. It was a nice handjob and you can tell that she has a lot of experience giving hand jobs. I lasted less than 5 minutes before I was coming. She kept on stroking my cock until the last drop. Then she cleaned me up with a warm towel and told me that I could rest on the table for a bit if I wanted. She also brought over a bottle of water and some Russian chocolate for me. So, a bit expensive for a hand job but you get a real professional massage that does the trick and really good hand job. I just wish I found her more attractive.

Got it. Thanks for the details. Sounds like a good option of that's your niche. We've all spent as much or money on less service. For me the "look but don't touch" would drive me insane, but the quality of massage sounds compelling.

[QUOTE=Mayhem101;2594667]Here is a detailed review of Jane I posted a few years ago. I believe it is the same woman. I haven't seen her again because she was not attractive to me but she has really good massage skills.

Jane is a mature BBW Russian woman who has professional training in massage and provides a real massage with a happy ending. If you want more, look elsewhere but if you want a real massage to work out those kinks, Jane has strong hands with a sensual touch that will make you feel better. I didn't find her face attractive but she does have big boobs that are almost popping out of the lingerie that she wears. Most of the hour is spend on your stomach as she massages your back and legs. I was looking for a real massage with the added benefit of a happy ending so I was satisfied but I wish I found Jane more attractive. I didn't push it as far as trying to touch her boobs or getting her to go topless but others say that this is possible.

A good professional massage well over an hour. It was relaxing and my muscles felt better. The massage itself lasted close to an hour before she asked me to turn over. Then she rubbed the massage oil over my balls and cock and started lightly touching my balls and cock and I was hard as a rock in a second. She starts out with slow light touches before stroking my cock faster and harder while massaging my balls at the same time. It was a nice handjob and you can tell that she has a lot of experience giving hand jobs. I lasted less than 5 minutes before I was coming. She kept on stroking my cock until the last drop. Then she cleaned me up with a warm towel and told me that I could rest on the table for a bit if I wanted. She also brought over a bottle of water and some Russian chocolate for me. So, a bit expensive for a hand job but you get a real professional massage that does the trick and really good hand job. I just wish I found her more attractive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WebDog2015;2595256]Got it. Thanks for the details. Sounds like a good option of that's your niche. We've all spent as much or money on less service. For me the "look but don't touch" would drive me insane, but the quality of massage sounds compelling.[/QUOTE]Haven't seen Jane for a while but I can confirm that if she likes you (may take repeat visits) the headlights should come out and shine. Some gentle roaming may also be allowed but YMMV, as always. It also doesn't hurt to learn a few Russian phrases to get a smile out of her and get her to open up a bit. Some useful ones are "sposibo" (spuh-see-buh) for please, "pajalusta" (pazh-owl-stuh) for thank you and "mozhna?" (mozh-nuh) for May I? The more she sees you as a gentleman the better her response.

Since AMP prices are generally 80 + 40 = 120 for just a HJ, and higher for roaming and other options, Jane is a bit more expensive but not excessively so, IMHO. The quality of the massage alone makes her a worthwhile option. She also leaves plenty of time between sessions which means you are never rushed. I haven't repeated simply because I enjoy variety and had reached the limits of what she would allow.

Also, unless she's gained a lot of weight since my last visit, I wouldn't classify her as a BBW. Curvy and voluptuous, yes, but not BBW.

[QUOTE=HardToTame;2594067]Got Ellie as a massage therapist (cute girl). I told her that 60 dollars was cost advertised online. She stated that is has always been 80, no problem I said. Table shower was good and clean. Then she keep harping that she was certified and the cost was 80, because the Chinese and koreans are cheap and service is bad. After shower we went back to the therapy room which was nice and clean. Then the massage started, which started as a whole body rub, I told her to go harder, she seemed upset that I requested a strong massage. She finished in 20 minutes, and me flip and requested a tip before anything happens. I pulled out money. 4 for relief. She stood by my feet so no touching. The place is nice, but the therapist was only talking about money mostly, which ruins the mood. Rating for massage 3 to 4. I would not return.[/QUOTE]I've seen her a couple of times and the 2nd time I was hoping for a better result but it didn't happen.

She's always rushed, gives a barely adequate massage and talks no-stop about herself and how rough she has it and how guys pay her lots of $ for nothing more than a HJ.

She's at least part Thai and I heard from another Thai masseuse that Ellie can't get anyone to work with her because she's cheap and wants to keep all the good clients for herself. So most of the time she's by herself so clients get put into one room while she finishes a rushed session in another. She will always tell you "wait just 5 minutes" but it's total BS and you'll be waiting as long as it takes to get rid of her earlier client.

So Panya gets a big thumbs down from me unless Ellie gets a new girl to help out. And then I would only visit to try out the new masseuse and not Ellie.

[QUOTE=Kijimuna;2594499]Many Lao end up living in Isaan Thailand, Nong Khai, Ubon Ratchathani, etc before moving to the US. She is defiantly Lao. I speak Thai fairy well and ended up speaking more Isaan dialect with her.[/QUOTE]While I don't have anywhere close to your experience with all matters Thai, I have noticed a tendency for some Lao providers to identify as Thai. I don't know if this because they feel Thai women have a better reputation, or that more people are familiar with Lao vs Thai, or what. And this is especially true when the Lao woman has even a tiny drop of Thai in her family lineage.

It certainly doesn't matter to me as I find them equally attractive. But for some reason it definitely seems to matter to them.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2594310]I feel for you, amigo; many of us have (unfortunately) tolerated this sort of substandard behavior and (just as unfortunate) not done anything when it happened. Yet, here was a perfect instance to put this sort of treatment in its place. The 'prelude' (namely, the harping and complaining during the shower, the upset attitude when asking for harder pressure, etc.) should prepare your mind that the session will likely leave you unsatisfied or very unimpressed.

When she finished in 20 minutes and requested a tip before continuing, that would have been the time to act.
[INDENT][list]Climb down off the table.[/list][list]Get dressed.[/list][list]Depart, leaving no tip (or, perhaps a very small tip, like .05).[/list][/INDENT]
The look of surprise on a therapist's face, once she realizes what you're doing and when she figures out the sort of tip she's going to get, can often be very amusing. Sometimes, she will begin making a scene, which can cause the MMS to come out of the 'office'. At that point, you can explain to the MMS what happened, telling her that you were shorted on time and that the therapist was complaining, etc. , and that you will be taking future business elsewhere.

Granted, your session won't end any better, but it will at least save you some wasted tip money and give you the satisfaction of having solved this sort of problem for some future mongers. Also, that therapist will likely not be working there or at other area AMPs much longer. And, you can apply the. 4 tip that you saved toward a massage at a better location. I still remember the reactions I got the first time I took this course of action, when I got bad service and decided that I didn't want a sour therapist giving me a mechanical finish (at best). It's not easy to do, when you're already on the table, but it is necessary when you get this kind of service. More of us have all too often succumbed to the alternative.

Live and learn, my friend.[/QUOTE]Repeat business is not in her mind, she's strictly churn and burn. And, since she's the owner, MMS and the only masseuse, the best recourse is to avoid Panya altogether and save every penny of your hard-earned $ for someplace else.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2595300]While I don't have anywhere close to your experience with all matters Thai, I have noticed a tendency for some Lao providers to identify as Thai. I don't know if this because they feel Thai women have a better reputation, or that more people are familiar with Lao vs Thai, or what. And this is especially true when the Lao woman has even a tiny drop of Thai in her family lineage.

It certainly doesn't matter to me as I find them equally attractive. But for some reason it definitely seems to matter to them.[/QUOTE]Just like many Lao restaurants, they identify themselves as Thai to deflect any explanation of origin simply because it's easier. And the reputation of Thai ladies makes them more attractive.

The same goes to people from Northern Virginia. When vacationing. Especially internationally. I am asked where I am from. Instead of saying NOVA and having to go into detail, I just say I'm from DC. It's easier and less confusing.

Personally I hate explaining where Laos is located and I sometimes identify myself as Thai to save my breath and energy.

[QUOTE=Sexingit;2595364]Just like many Lao restaurants, they identify themselves as Thai to deflect any explanation of origin simply because it's easier. And the reputation of Thai ladies makes them more attractive.

The same goes to people from Northern Virginia. When vacationing. Especially internationally. I am asked where I am from. Instead of saying NOVA and having to go into detail, I just say I'm from DC. It's easier and less confusing.

Personally I hate explaining where Laos is located and I sometimes identify myself as Thai to save my breath and energy.[/QUOTE]

Which is ironic (not that you choose not to, but for businesses and gals). Given that some of us mongers travel frequently, I would likely be more rather than less attracted to an add that had something less common. Whether a Lao restaurant or a Lao woman.

I totally agree with Mr. JmSuttr about Jane. She is not a BBW. Rather, she has a soft, curvy, MILF style body. That happens to be what I am attracted to.

And Mr. JmSuttr is also correct about trying to connect with Jane by using just a few Russian words here and there. That kind of thing really pays dividends down the road once they get to know you. Plus being a gentleman, especially on the first and second visits, is very important. Not just with Jane, but with any provider. Once they get comfortable with you, more doors begin to open up. Not a lecture; just a bit of advice.

Like Mr. JmSuttr, I too believe she is worth another Andrew Jackson for her massage skills alone. Plus I always tip her, which I know she appreciates and remembers. I believe in always tipping for good service. It shows the lady she is appreciated and her extra efforts are rewarded.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2595273]Haven't seen Jane for a while but I can confirm that if she likes you (may take repeat visits) the headlights should come out and shine. Some gentle roaming may also be allowed but YMMV, as always. It also doesn't hurt to learn a few Russian phrases to get a smile out of her and get her to open up a bit. Some useful ones are "sposibo" (spuh-see-buh) for please, "pajalusta" (pazh-owl-stuh) for thank you and "mozhna?" (mozh-nuh) for May I? The more she sees you as a gentleman the better her response.

Since AMP prices are generally 80 + 40 = 120 for just a HJ, and higher for roaming and other options, Jane is a bit more expensive but not excessively so, IMHO. The quality of the massage alone makes her a worthwhile option. She also leaves plenty of time between sessions which means you are never rushed. I haven't repeated simply because I enjoy variety and had reached the limits of what she would allow.

Also, unless she's gained a lot of weight since my last visit, I wouldn't classify her as a BBW. Curvy and voluptuous, yes, but not BBW.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills;2595517]Which is ironic (not that you choose not to, but for businesses and gals). Given that some of us mongers travel frequently, I would likely be more rather than less attracted to an add that had something less common. Whether a Lao restaurant or a Lao woman.[/QUOTE]I agree to some extent but given the reputation of Thai women and their openess to sexuality, it is unlike anyother Asian culture. Even in Laos, which is a bordering country, their not as sensual as Thai ladies. Plus the sex trade in Thai is booming and flourishes.

Culturally they treat sex different than most Asian countries. As a result I believe their sex appeal has been embraced rather than neglected and that's why Thai ladies are symbolically sexy.

[QUOTE=Sexingit;2595545]I agree to some extent but given the reputation of Thai women and their openess to sexuality, it is unlike anyother Asian culture. Even in Laos, which is a bordering country, their not as sensual as Thai ladies. Plus the sex trade in Thai is booming and flourishes.

Culturally they treat sex different than most Asian countries. As a result I believe their sex appeal has been embraced rather than neglected and that's why Thai ladies are symbolically sexy.[/QUOTE]In fairness I may not be able to spot the difference between Lao and LOS, but Thai women have been my favorite providers since forever. I can remember every one over the last 20 years (sadly because it has not been nearly enough, but somewhere over a dozen). I fall in love every time. The call it Land Of Smiles for a reason (albeit I understand it is pretty hardcore for its citizens if you're there, but when they are here I am all smiles).

I have not seen a real Thai provider in area for a while. I do go to Chaan Thai Massage in Fairfax or a legit massage, and the tiny provider there is cute as hell (but nothing 'improper' going on with her).

I would love to find a real Thai option for FS. I have seen only impostors locally, Malay, Chinese or Lao apparently.

[QUOTE=WebDog2015;2595711]In fairness I may not be able to spot the difference between Lao and LOS, but Thai women have been my favorite providers since forever. I can remember every one over the last 20 years (sadly because it has not been nearly enough, but somewhere over a dozen). I fall in love every time. The call it Land Of Smiles for a reason (albeit I understand it is pretty hardcore for its citizens if you're there, but when they are here I am all smiles).

I have not seen a real Thai provider in area for a while. I do go to Chaan Thai Massage in Fairfax or a legit massage, and the tiny provider there is cute as hell (but nothing 'improper' going on with her).

I would love to find a real Thai option for FS. I have seen only impostors locally, Malay, Chinese or Lao apparently.[/QUOTE][URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sexy-asian-cari/4725540[/URL]

Thai MILF with a cute face and nice attributes (looks better in person than in her pics). She speaks good English and is definitely not a clock-watcher. In fact, if you go for the HH you'll probably end up spending almost an hour (or more) with her. The HH price she quotes initially may seem a bit high but it's not set in stone and if business is slow and you ask politely you will probably succeed in getting it lowered.

Not full GFE (CBJ, DATY, LFK) but pretty good, enthusiastic and genuine service. She has a tendency to talk a lot so you definitely need to keep her occupied. She used to smoke which is why I stopped seeing her. But I did visit a couple of months ago and found that she had quit and looked better than ever. Also, she's often available even if she doesn't have an ad up on BP.

If you do take the plunge, I look forward to reading your report.

Hate to be in this situation. Really sux to find a nice massage, with or without, extras and not be able to get the same girl two weeks later. What to do? She move. She no more here. As has been said by others, I've reached a place that a good consistent massage is as desirable a few minutes of awe. Granted appearance of and available extras with the lady does improve the overall experience. Sigh.

[QUOTE=WhiteLake830;2596118]Hate to be in this situation. Really sux to find a nice massage, with or without, extras and not be able to get the same girl two weeks later. What to do? She move. She no more here. As has been said by others, I've reached a place that a good consistent massage is as desirable a few minutes of awe. Granted appearance of and available extras with the lady does improve the overall experience. Sigh.[/QUOTE]I agree. I've actually moved on to getting a more legit massage with some sensual touching, but no finish.

[QUOTE=WhiteLake830;2596118]Hate to be in this situation. Really sux to find a nice massage, with or without, extras and not be able to get the same girl two weeks later. What to do? She move. She no more here. As has been said by others, I've reached a place that a good consistent massage is as desirable a few minutes of awe. Granted appearance of and available extras with the lady does improve the overall experience. Sigh.[/QUOTE]As another monger noted: If you find a girl whose techniques (both therapeutic and sensual) you like, and if you want to keep in touch with her in case she moves around, try to get her digits. A girl might not always want to share her digits with a client, but if they know you can be trusted and exercise good discretion, they may share their phone number with you. This can also help if you want. And if she agrees. To see you on the outside, assuming any relationship with her develops to that point. Another benefit to getting her digits is that, if she only works certain days, you'll be able to call her and find out if she's going to be working on a particular day (or the day you're thinking of visiting the AMP). If she knows that you prefer to see her, which means more income for her from a steady client, this will also encourage her to share her digits. Probably the best time to ask her is at the end of the session, just before you depart. At first, she might tell you to just call the AMP phone number to ask if she's working, but on a subsequent visit she may just be willing to give you her number. Try it and see. It's worked for me occasionally, and it's worked for other members on this board, as well. You just have to ask, and the worst they can do is say no.

Thanks for the update on Cari, JmSuttr!

I never would have visited her due to the smoking. But it's great to know she quit.

Appreciate the good info.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2595848][URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sexy-asian-cari/4725540[/URL]

Thai MILF with a cute face and nice attributes (looks better in person than in her pics). She speaks good English and is definitely not a clock-watcher. In fact, if you go for the HH you'll probably end up spending almost an hour (or more) with her. The HH price she quotes initially may seem a bit high but it's not set in stone and if business is slow and you ask politely you will probably succeed in getting it lowered.

Not full GFE (CBJ, DATY, LFK) but pretty good, enthusiastic and genuine service. She has a tendency to talk a lot so you definitely need to keep her occupied. She used to smoke which is why I stopped seeing her. But I did visit a couple of months ago and found that she had quit and looked better than ever. Also, she's often available even if she doesn't have an ad up on BP.

If you do take the plunge, I look forward to reading your report.[/QUOTE]

I went to Franconia Wellness for a first visit. As soon as I walked in I was welcomed politely by the mamasan. She introduced me to this sexy looking asian girl (I forget her name). On the way to the room I had a short conversation with the girl. Apparently she is new and new to the area. Her english was okay and her sexy look makes up for her broken english. We hit the shower first and her soapy hands rubbed me all over, it was good. On the table she did an okay job as well. Then got a HJ for with her clothes off. So it began with oily hands doing their work. My hands were busy too. It made my experience ten times better. I unloaded and she cleaned me up. I tipped her extra just because she did a great job and hopefully will remember my kind gesture. Next time I'm going back to try for a CFS and hopefully she'll remember me and make negotiation easier. I'll be back to finish what I started.

[QUOTE=Collio2;2602803]I went to Franconia Wellness for a first visit. As soon as I walked in I was welcomed politely by the mamasan. She introduced me to this sexy looking asian girl (I forget her name). On the way to the room I had a short conversation with the girl. Apparently she is new and new to the area. Her english was okay and her sexy look makes up for her broken english. We hit the shower first and her soapy hands rubbed me all over, it was good. On the table she did an okay job as well. Then got a HJ for with her clothes off. So it began with oily hands doing their work. My hands were busy too. It made my experience ten times better. I unloaded and she cleaned me up. I tipped her extra just because she did a great job and hopefully will remember my kind gesture. Next time I'm going back to try for a CFS and hopefully she'll remember me and make negotiation easier. I'll be back to finish what I started.[/QUOTE]Are typically not that great in my experience. So if you want to develop a "relationship" (I. E. Have her remember you), you will have to go back sooner rather than later. And when you do, push the fact that you.

Have been with her before.

LexLuther.

I saw that the old Blue Tropic in Sterling was back open but have struck out three times trying to see a provider there. Although the "open" neon sign is gone, if you see the blueish lights on, around the windows, it means they are open.

First strike: A couple of weeks ago, I saw that the blue lights were on so I paid a visit but the door was locked.

Second strike: I pulled into the parking space as a monger just walks out of the place. I see another monger in his car quickly exit and make a bee line for the door. I had planned on waiting a couple of minutes before I would exit my car but another monger quickly pulls up and is about to exit his car and make for the door. I depart as the foot traffic in such a short span of time does not bold well for discretion.

Third strike: I come back about 4 hours later in the day and I enter the place. About a minute goes by before the provider comes out and tells me to come back in an hour or so.

Not sure how many providers are working this place. I think Anna is still there so if you plan on visiting the area, make sure you call ahead if you are a minute or two near the place to be sure they can see you. The location of this place sucks. I would not be surprised if this spot gets busted.

First time poster so bear with me while I try to get all the terms correct. Went to Imperial today, made an appointment but when I got there the girl that I'm pretty sure was the mamasan asked me to wait 20 minutes. After 25 went back and she brought me and I saw a few other prettier and younger girls in the hall. The mamasan (I think) was the one I had today, 40's I would guess but decent looking, takes care of her body. Table shower was good and she got every nook and cranny paying special attention to my family jewels and butt. After that went to the room, she agreed to take off everything for. 8 She was fine with touching just no putting anything inside of her, she was a bit hairy down there but she definitely kept it clean. Good massage, worked up to the flip with light touching and sensual caresses. After the flip it was the basic nova special which she was very good at and she was fine with me touching her and nursing a bit. After she cleaned us both up and I had a bit of time left so she did a bit of deep tissue massage on my back, she does give a good massage. Will certainly go back especially for some of the other girls that were younger, she says they rotate out pretty often.

Hey Serpico99, clear your inbox.

Saw weeks of BP ads by several providers with the same zip code (22152) and land line (571-882-1189), but different text numbers. Figured it was a group of girls working in the same apartment and it was. Their most recent ad as of this posting is pasted below. Anyway called to make a 30 minute appointment for an hour later with Angel. Directions took me to the Tivoli Condos next to Royal Ridge Park in West Springfield. Was let in quickly and introduced to two other masseuses before being led to a room set up as a spa. All providers appeared attractive and younger than 30. Room had portable massage table with head rest, clean towels, pop music on the radio, so ok. Paid 1. 2 up front as advertised. Massage was as oily and only covered the back, buttox, and hamstrings. A little teasing before the flip at 15 minutes. Once flipped she went straight for the finish and allowed topless roaming. Total table time less than 20 minutes. Offered clean towels and shower for cleanup, which I took, got dressed and departed. The kicker came when I got back to my car and discovered 40 fewer roses in my pocket than what I had carried in for my "optional extras" stash. So, if you go, the girls are young and hot compared to the usual AMP fare, but don't take in anymore $ than the advertised rate for your desired time length, and don't be surprised if you are shorted on time.

One of their ads:

💗128151;128151;Southern Exotic Blonde Ready to Relax you! Reviewed💗128151;10084;10084;10084; - 21.

Posted: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:47 PM.

21 years old College Blonde.

Rocking body, Pictures are 100 percent me.

Come see me for a relaxing evening with a body rub.

Discreet incall location, warm towels, hot shower available. You won't be disappoined =) foot fetish welcome.

140 for half.

200 for hour.

, Body rub only for relaxation no full.

Appointments only 22152 call 571-882-1189 or text me at 703-688-3043 Thank you! Lena.

Poster's age: 21.

• Location: 22152 West Springfield, Northern Virginia.

• Post I'd: 17971121 nova.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/southern-exotic-blonde-ready-to-relax-you-reviewed/17971121[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongeroose;2606041]Saw weeks of BP ads by several providers with the same zip code (22152) and land line (571-882-1189), but different text numbers. Figured it was a group of girls working in the same apartment and it was. Their most recent ad as of this posting is pasted below. Anyway called to make a 30 minute appointment for an hour later with Angel. Directions took me to the Tivoli Condos next to Royal Ridge Park in West Springfield. Was let in quickly and introduced to two other masseuses before being led to a room set up as a spa. All providers appeared attractive and younger than 30. Room had portable massage table with head rest, clean towels, pop music on the radio, so ok. Paid 1. 2 up front as advertised. Massage was as oily and only covered the back, buttox, and hamstrings. A little teasing before the flip at 15 minutes. Once flipped she went straight for the finish and allowed topless roaming. Total table time less than 20 minutes. Offered clean towels and shower for cleanup, which I took, got dressed and departed. The kicker came when I got back to my car and discovered 40 fewer roses in my pocket than what I had carried in for my "optional extras" stash. So, if you go, the girls are young and hot compared to the usual AMP fare, but don't take in anymore $ than the advertised rate for your desired time length, and don't be surprised if you are shorted on time.

One of their ads:

128151;128151;Southern Exotic Blonde Ready to Relax you! Reviewed128151;10084;10084;10084; - 21.

Posted: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:47 PM.

21 years old College Blonde.

Rocking body, Pictures are 100 percent me.

Come see me for a relaxing evening with a body rub.

Discreet incall location, warm towels, hot shower available. You won't be disappoined =) foot fetish welcome.

140 for half.

200 for hour.

, Body rub only for relaxation no full.

Appointments only 22152 call 571-882-1189 or text me at 703-688-3043 Thank you! Lena.

Poster's age: 21.

Location: 22152 West Springfield, Northern Virginia.

Post I'd: 17971121 nova.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/southern-exotic-blonde-ready-to-relax-you-reviewed/17971121[/URL][/QUOTE]Where did you leave your wallet?

[QUOTE=BigDaddyDon;2604116]Hey Serpico99, clear your inbox.[/QUOTE]Inbox should be cleared. I did go back to the old Blue Tropic and was able to see someone (not Anna). The provider rebuffed my request for standard noVA, even though she was teasing me a bit.

[QUOTE=Mongeroose;2606041]Saw weeks of BP ads by several providers with the same zip code (22152) and land line (571-882-1189), but different text numbers. Figured it was a group of girls working in the same apartment and it was. Their most recent ad as of this posting is pasted below. Anyway called to make a 30 minute appointment for an hour later with Angel. Directions took me to the Tivoli Condos next to Royal Ridge Park in West Springfield. Was let in quickly and introduced to two other masseuses before being led to a room set up as a spa. All providers appeared attractive and younger than 30. Room had portable massage table with head rest, clean towels, pop music on the radio, so ok. Paid 1. 2 up front as advertised. Massage was as oily and only covered the back, buttox, and hamstrings. A little teasing before the flip at 15 minutes. Once flipped she went straight for the finish and allowed topless roaming. Total table time less than 20 minutes. Offered clean towels and shower for cleanup, which I took, got dressed and departed. The kicker came when I got back to my car and discovered 40 fewer roses in my pocket than what I had carried in for my "optional extras" stash. So, if you go, the girls are young and hot compared to the usual AMP fare, but don't take in anymore $ than the advertised rate for your desired time length, and don't be surprised if you are shorted on time.

One of their ads:

128151;128151;Southern Exotic Blonde Ready to Relax you! Reviewed128151;10084;10084;10084; - 21.

Posted: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:47 PM.

21 years old College Blonde.

Rocking body, Pictures are 100 percent me.

Come see me for a relaxing evening with a body rub.

Discreet incall location, warm towels, hot shower available. You won't be disappoined =) foot fetish welcome.

140 for half.

200 for hour.

, Body rub only for relaxation no full.

Appointments only 22152 call 571-882-1189 or text me at 703-688-3043 Thank you! Lena.

Poster's age: 21.

Location: 22152 West Springfield, Northern Virginia.

Post I'd: 17971121 nova.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/southern-exotic-blonde-ready-to-relax-you-reviewed/17971121[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]http://dreamymaid.com/Dreamy_Maid/Girls.html[/URL]

And if you search the oThER site using the 571 number you will find several reviews, mostly positive. But of course with any agency there's no guarantee all the girls are honest. One possible strategy would be to take your clothes (or at least whatever you used to stash your extra cash) into the bathroom while you shower. But it's certainly no guarantee and the better option is simply to avoid possible thieves.

Thanks for the warning post because I had been thinking about giving them a call.

[QUOTE=Collio2;2602803]I went to Franconia Wellness for a first visit. As soon as I walked in I was welcomed politely by the mamasan. She introduced me to this sexy looking asian girl (I forget her name). On the way to the room I had a short conversation with the girl. Apparently she is new and new to the area. Her english was okay and her sexy look makes up for her broken english. We hit the shower first and her soapy hands rubbed me all over, it was good. On the table she did an okay job as well. Then got a HJ for with her clothes off. So it began with oily hands doing their work. My hands were busy too. It made my experience ten times better. I unloaded and she cleaned me up. I tipped her extra just because she did a great job and hopefully will remember my kind gesture. Next time I'm going back to try for a CFS and hopefully she'll remember me and make negotiation easier. I'll be back to finish what I started.[/QUOTE]Get her name (and don't forget it), get her personal digits, tip generously and don't see any other masseuse at that spa.

A couple of additional notes: By tip generously I mean maybe $10-$20 above the norm (any more than that and she may see you as a sap) but only if you get the kind of good service you described. And the comment about not seeing other masseuses is because AMP girls can be very protective and jealous of their best clients. And the girls gossip like crazy so every one of them will absolutely know when you come in and who you see.

[QUOTE=Kijimuna;2606134]Where did you leave your wallet?[/QUOTE]I never take my wallet into AMPs or in calls, just the cash I can afford to spend. Base rate in one pocket, tip / extra in another, no I'd. Angel was about 5'-2", dark complected (hispanic descent? And small chested in case anyone else runs into her or she changes her name. LFMF, follow JmSuttr's advice!

I've dreamt about visiting the AMPs around my area.

*Swan was run of the mill. Older provider, $0. 60 for 30 min. Decent massage, finish was pleasant after flip. $0. 40 tip. Likely won't return.

*The one deeper in the same parking lot at 5136 and seems to no longer posts has been a lot more fun, particularly when I've dreamt at night and on Sunday's. Seems it's a one provider / patron at a time place. The normal woman- works bankers hours plus? And drives a silver sedan frequently parked nearby is not as fun as the others. She will give a good message with a barely acceptable NOVA finish, let you play with hand suck on her nipples once she's comfortable. She'll let you rub on her cat, even make her cum (seemingly). Seems she won't do anything more, even with regulars. $0. 80 to the house for the hour + $0. 40 or $0. 60 tip depending on my mood and her effort. * When I've dreamt of visiting the same place l, still with a solo provider, CFS was achieved with more than two providers. Seems they just need to have a fun, flirty offer to give them a massage after approx 5 min of roaming early in the massage. Every time, they asked If I was serious, then laid on the table after I insisted. After some urging, they would gradually undress. Eventually, they'd upsell $1 to $1. 2 on top of the $0. 80 to the house for the hour. Each time was FUN. I'd suggest Sunday or night time visits. They seem to always be new though they can be convinced to play.

Seven Therapy with Mickey. $0. 80 to the house for the hour. Decent massage. After the flip, NOVA with a viewing as she agreed to pull up her shirt to show a great rack for an older woman and pulled down her yoga pants and show her pretty cat. $0. 60 tip and out the door. I would not repeat.

Garden on near Duke St. (suite G7). Dreamt of going twice. Seems to be two providers at a time. Each time I went for only 30 min = $0. 60 to the house & $0. 40 tip. Each time a different athletic 40's provider gave a great massage while being allowed to roam / caress outside their shirts / yoga pants. Great non mechanical NOVA finish after the flip each time. Maybe more fun is allowed with a regular during an hour session thoug not sure if that's the case as tape seemed to be placed over the door mechanisms to prevent locking.

[QUOTE=Serpico99;2287321]Rich Therapy in Herrrrrdown = fail.

I paid for an hour and after the TS, another monger rings the bell. He must had been a regular because my provider (she said the other girl was out shopping) wanted to cut my session down to 30 min, to take care of the other monger, and stated she would give me back 20 (which she did). TS was great, the massage was poking and prodding with a towel on and other services were marginal noVA std. She had tig ole bitties and doing a Russian on her would be a dream but given the circumstances of cutting my session short to attend to another monger left a bad taste in my mouth and I decided to not seek out additional treatment. Reports from another mongering site suggest the a couple years past activities were excellent but not this time around. Provider name sounded like Momo. I don't recommend this place, another lazy high volume Korean operation.[/QUOTE]Was on the way to see&see but decided to stop here instead. Was a mistake. Similar lackluster experience. Same big-titted provider.

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/wonderful-masseusefairfaxvienna-tysons-conner-mclean6095407382/18978355[/URL]

Green Tea Spa is an apt, not a real spa location and even though the prices are at the FBSM level extras are either not on the menu or might be possible (depending on the masseuse) with a major upsell.

I visited 2 x and had an extensive discussion with the MMS who books the sessions (Sophie / Sofie). My first visit was with Amy and the massage was ok but at the flip only available option was self-service for an additional $60. Needless to say, I passed.

After I left I texted MMS to tell her how overpriced her establishment was. She apologized profusely and claimed there must have been some misunderstanding and promised me a different girl if I returned the next day. We continued the conversation via phone and she convinced me to give the place one more shot. I made it a point to arrive early the next day and I saw Amy get out of her car so it was clear to me that MMS had lied and I was going to get the same runaround. I called and cancelled and then she fed me a bunch of BS about how their regular massage was worth 120/ hr even without extras. I ended that pretty quickly as there was no point continuing the discussion.

Bottom line is to avoid unless all you want is an overpriced regular massage. Much better legit massage options out there for less.

What kind of the massage is the high price?

Massage PRICE:

30 Minutes-$80,60 Minutes - $120,90 Minutes - $180,120 MInutes-$240.

Outcall Massage PRICE:

60 Minutes - $150,90 Minutes - $200,120 Minutes - $260.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2608963][URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/wonderful-masseusefairfaxvienna-tysons-conner-mclean6095407382/18978355[/URL]

Green Tea Spa is an apt, not a real spa location and even though the prices are at the FBSM level extras are either not on the menu or might be possible (depending on the masseuse) with a major upsell.

I visited 2 x and had an extensive discussion with the MMS who books the sessions (Sophie / Sofie). My first visit was with Amy and the massage was ok but at the flip only available option was self-service for an additional $60. Needless to say, I passed.

After I left I texted MMS to tell her how overpriced her establishment was. She apologized profusely and claimed there must have been some misunderstanding and promised me a different girl if I returned the next day. We continued the conversation via phone and she convinced me to give the place one more shot. I made it a point to arrive early the next day and I saw Amy get out of her car so it was clear to me that MMS had lied and I was going to get the same runaround. I called and cancelled and then she fed me a bunch of BS about how their regular massage was worth 120/ hr even without extras. I ended that pretty quickly as there was no point continuing the discussion.

Bottom line is to avoid unless all you want is an overpriced regular massage. Much better legit massage options out there for less.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kamen;2609498]What kind of the massage is the high price?

Massage PRICE:

30 Minutes-$80,60 Minutes - $120,90 Minutes - $180,120 MInutes-$240.

Outcall Massage PRICE:

60 Minutes - $150,90 Minutes - $200,120 Minutes - $260.[/QUOTE]For non-sensual massage, there are plenty of options in the 60-80 per hr range (+ 15-20% tip).

When the price gets up to 120/ hr it should at least include a std NOVA finish and that's also usually the total paid at an AMP when you consider the 80 house fee and the 40 tip for the masseuse.

So, repeating what I wrote earlier, 120 for a reg massage with no finish is an overpriced joke.

Due to the holiday on Monday, I forgot that my ATF was off today so I went back to FWC. Scarlett welcomed me back at the door and escorted me to a room. A favorite there, May / Mei has moved on and Hannah has recently joined the staff and was my therapist for today. A good TS was followed by average massage skills. She was friendly to talk to and my time actually ran over a bit. I didn't hear the doorbell so it may have been a slow day. Above average finish and I got my bottle of cool water and left. FW is still extremely clean and well run. I will return.

I had planned a business / pleasure trip to the Springfield area a few months ago, and today, arrived back here in New England after spending a glorious week in a very beautiful part of the state.

Thanks to the kindness of Roamin Roman, who some time ago, provided me with several pages of historical places to visit as well as places of interest, I was able to see some of these locations, and get a feeling for the rich history that is part of Virginia, and NoVA in particular. Thanks much Roamin.

And, true to Virginia hospitality, Roamin also included other places of interest to visit; none of which can be classified as historical sites, unless one wants to consider an aged mamasan!

Time did not allow for all of the other (read AMPs) suggestions Roamin offered to be explored; and most have already been reviewed here. Having said that, I will give a short synopsis of a couple of AMPs I found to be (for a Yankee not used to NoVA protocol) a cut above the rest.

The first noteworthy mention was the AMP at the 7 corners. An excellent massage by a tall, thin K-Girl, whose name I believe was Candy. Midway through the flip, as she was remarking this was her first viewing of a Yankee joyprong, she became so aroused by it, that she immediately raised her shirt and bra (why do they even bother wearing one?) and presented a top-shelf set of breasts, which naturally, I forthwith examined closely to ascertain if the Virginia weather enabled them to be of a better caliber than I am used to here in the cold NorthEast. Yup. The Virginia sun does make a difference!

The fabled NoVA finish was indeed something of which to make note, which I did when I got back to my hotel room.

The second noteworthy mention was a review previously posted by Collio2 regarding Franconia Wellness that I read while in the hotel room. Again, it has been reviewed also, but since YMMV in all instances, after walking up the stairs to the second floor, the mamasan (I presume,) who sported the largest set of mammaries I have ever seen on an Asian woman, led me to a nicely furnished room, wherein, an attractive, but for an Asian, very tall (maybe 5'9" as my six feet did not tower over her, as I am used to being the case. In any event, she introduced herself as Jackie.

Her massage skills were adequate, but not extraordinary, but I have to say the NoVA finish was great. Sadly, I did not experience the amount of skin as reported by Collio2, but he did not name his provider, so this may have been a different person.

A couple other AMPs were visited as well; none noteworthy, and all have been reviewed by others.

All in all, a most enjoyable visit, with the weather cooperating fully. Thanks again to Roamin, for spelling out places to visit. I may be back for the Columbus Day holiday, and if things go as planned, I shall avail myself of more of Roamin's suggestions.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Serpico99;2606282]I did go back to the old Blue Tropic and was able to see someone (not Anna). The provider rebuffed my request for standard noVA, even though she was teasing me a bit.[/QUOTE]Same here.

Actually, she seem scared of the owner. The short chubby white guy who may be Anna's BF. Very weird vibe going on there. Will not repeat for sure.

Stopped by FWC. Formerly known as MWC. Still at 8300 Arl Blvd Suite E3.

It has been awhile since I played in NoVa because of situations but since I had the time and I had the dime, I stopped by an old spot. Needless to say, it still was pleasant. I arrived and was the only one there. I cannot remember the name of my provider however, she still tried to give an American name that she had a little trouble saying. She was older, nice body for her age, and very playful.

TS was standard, a little bit more playful when I let out the moans and groans for soaping the undercarriage. Back at the room, she didn't waste her time. She gave a quick-not rushed- massage and then the fun began. She said something funny about giving massages and why she went straight for the fun. She mentioned that younger guys my age-which I didn't think 40 was young, although she thought I was younger since I do look very young- want the fun and not really a massage. The younger guys get hard faster and stay hard longer. She still gives them full time however since they stay hard longer she plays more. The older guys want to be rubbed and pampered to get hard and then quickly let loose. I just thought it was very interesting to hear that kind of honesty and strategy from a provider. Anyways, she provided a good NoVa ending. She allowed OTC roaming, & UTC roaming. She really seemed like she was getting off. When I went to pet the kitty UTC, she resisted even though she "appeared" to be close to cumming. She mentioned that she didn't really clean my hands as much as she liked in the TS and next time she will so then I can play UTC. She was very willing. I was able to see, feel, taste her girls.

Overall, TS was standard yet playful. Massage was OK-can't report on quality since it was short. The ending was fun for both even though it was standard. I did ask for other options but she said it was not allowed. I left. 60 for the tip and was on my way.

Be safe out there and sorry I can't remember her name.

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