Have,you ever boned a pornstar?

I would love to know how you reached out to Cecilia Lion.

[QUOTE=JohnDoeTwo;5411644]Ain't that the truth. From my experience, they usually don't have a wetter pussy or fuck better than any other girl. A random girl at bar or a girl who might be crazy about you might be a better fuck. And of course, any girl who is hunger for the game we play. You can find a girl much cheaper that would perform way better. What they do have is the allure, the name, and sometimes the looks. The skills is sometimes. Some of them could do bbjs better your average girl in the game. So if you always want to do it, I recommend doing it. You might look at their movies differently and be like, "I did that. I know how it feels." Just don't expect what you see on the movies. Usually.

With that said, there are a couple of pornstars that do perform like they would on scene. The ones I had didn't, but they were cool.

But the ones that are freaks who perform like they do on set from what I hear were:

Ava Devine. She was a crazy dirty cum dumpster lady in a great way. All holes open, cum inside. You can find stories.

Veronica Avluv. More lowkey than Ava Devine. But anything you see in her movies, you'll get.

Jesse Jane. Also crazy but in a good way.

All I think are retired now, but I think Jesse Jane might still provide. Unsure.

Cecilia Lion is another one. But she isn't as. I dunno. Carefree crazy as the other ones are. But I heard she performs just as good.

I'm sure there are others that I don't know about. There always ones who are true nymphos, who just have a desire to fuck constantly and behaves like you are fucking on set or who just performs so good that you can't tell if it's acting or not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rusted22;5568217]Earlier this year I inquired and it was 1500 plus hotel in San Diego for 30-minute porn shoot. I passed.[/QUOTE]Christy is all over the place. There are reports of men seeing her for 300-400, then she openly advertises 900-1500. Seems to be dependent on her mood.

[QUOTE=OxnardBadBoy;5568282]When Charity Bangs come here?[/QUOTE]I just looked at her website and looks like she's staying on the East Coast this month. She in Raleigh now and rest of October in NC, SC or Tennessee. Nothing listed Nov on so maybe she make a trip late this year or early next.

[QUOTE=Rusted22;5568217]Earlier this year I inquired and it was 1500 plus hotel in San Diego for 30-minute porn shoot. I passed.[/QUOTE]One good thing about seeing Christy was she intro'd me to Tia Kai and had several dates with her.

She also was going to intro me to Sexy Nyomi but I have already conquered Sexy Nyomi Star too many times. Saw her many many years ago when she was being booked by 100 Proof out a Vegas.

I saw Christy Canyon selling lots of personal memorabilia on eBay in the early 2000's.

[QUOTE=RyanLandis;5566804]No she was never a pro. Was making bucks while she was in biz and then got her radio show on Vivid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Myself11;5569231]I would love to know how you reached out to Cecilia Lion.[/QUOTE]She got listed in this thread when her Tryst ad went up. You musta just missed her.

[QUOTE=HexenDuction;5570405]I saw Christy Canyon selling lots of personal memorabilia on eBay in the early 2000's.[/QUOTE]She was never rich and famous. Just never escorted. She and Amber Lynn, Ginger Lynn, etc just survived after the 90's. If you follow Christy's twitter, she'll post when the all get together. Alica Rio (ugh! The only one who did well after porn was Tara Patrick. She's currently married to an Italian attorney living in Italy.

[QUOTE=RyanLandis;5570856]She was never rich and famous. Just never escorted. She and Amber Lynn, Ginger Lynn, etc just survived after the 90's. If you follow Christy's twitter, she'll post when the all get together. Alica Rio (ugh! The only one who did well after porn was Tara Patrick. She's currently married to an Italian attorney living in Italy.[/QUOTE]Entry-level performers can make anywhere between 4-10 k a month, which is much better than working at McDonald's, but definitely not "fuck you money. ".

Most of these girls are also financially illiterate and surrounded by drugs, deadbeat boyfriends, and other sinkholes, and the money slips away as easily as it came, leading them to dead end jobs and / or prostitution once they fizzle out of the industry.

The lucky ones find themselves beta simps who don't mind the packs of neighbours that ran trains on them, who marry them and give them a comfortable lifestyle. H0 es do become housewives, just ask the Kardashians.

These lists are often exaggerated, but not one of the performers who have done very well for themselves did so by exclusively fucking on camera. Each one leveraged their name recognition into a successful brand, transitioning into social media marketing, feature dancing, selling merchandise, taking better paying roles in mainstream film and TV productions, or simply sugar dating and marrying into wealth:

[URL]https://www.askmen.com/dating/galleries/richest-female-porn-stars/jenna-jameson.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5571323]Entry-level performers can make anywhere between 4-10 k a month, which is much better than working at McDonald's, but definitely not "fuck you money. ".

Most of these girls are also financially illiterate and surrounded by drugs, deadbeat boyfriends, and other sinkholes, and the money slips away as easily as it came, leading them to dead end jobs and / or prostitution once they fizzle out of the industry.

The lucky ones find themselves beta simps who don't mind the packs of neighbours that ran trains on them, who marry them and give them a comfortable lifestyle. H0 es do become housewives, just ask the Kardashians.

These lists are often exaggerated, but not one of the performers who have done very well for themselves did so by exclusively fucking on camera. Each one leveraged their name recognition into a successful brand, transitioning into social media marketing, feature dancing, selling merchandise, taking better paying roles in mainstream film and TV productions, or simply sugar dating and marrying into wealth:

[URL]https://www.askmen.com/dating/galleries/richest-female-porn-stars/jenna-jameson.html[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. Jenna is a broke train wreck.

[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5571323]Entry-level performers can make anywhere between 4-10 k a month, which is much better than working at McDonald's, but definitely not "fuck you money. ".

Most of these girls are also financially illiterate and surrounded by drugs, deadbeat boyfriends, and other sinkholes, and the money slips away as easily as it came, leading them to dead end jobs and / or prostitution once they fizzle out of the industry.

The lucky ones find themselves beta simps who don't mind the packs of neighbours that ran trains on them, who marry them and give them a comfortable lifestyle. H0 es do become housewives, just ask the Kardashians.

These lists are often exaggerated, but not one of the performers who have done very well for themselves did so by exclusively fucking on camera. Each one leveraged their name recognition into a successful brand, transitioning into social media marketing, feature dancing, selling merchandise, taking better paying roles in mainstream film and TV productions, or simply sugar dating and marrying into wealth:

[URL]https://www.askmen.com/dating/galleries/richest-female-porn-stars/jenna-jameson.html[/URL][/QUOTE]and related sites have done a lot to change the landscape of porn IMO. I think it's reasonable to estimate that someone like Janice Griffith has around 2-3 K subscribers on OF, which puts her monthly take at around 25-35 K. AFAIK she does do BG scenes on OF and I'm sure that some of that content costs money to make, but it seems like a pretty good deal for upper tier performers.

[QUOTE=Awergin1;5571491]and related sites have done a lot to change the landscape of porn IMO. I think it's reasonable to estimate that someone like Janice Griffith has around 2-3 K subscribers on OF, which puts her monthly take at around 25-35 K. AFAIK she does do BG scenes on OF and I'm sure that some of that content costs money to make, but it seems like a pretty good deal for upper tier performers.[/QUOTE]Like with anything the average person gets smarter over time. The girls doing porn now are much more savvy when it comes to finances than any girls in the 90's. If you look at the top girls in porn they have not just made good money but have accumulated small amounts of wealth. Adriana Chechick, Lana Rhoades, Riley Reid. All look to have very comfortable lives. All have escorted as recently as 3 ish years ago but at this point it's safe to say they don't need to again. With only fans, YouTube channels and now a lot of them are moving to twitch there's too many other options for the ones with huge fan bases to go broke.

[QUOTE=HoeWhisperer;5572261]Like with anything the average person gets smarter over time. The girls doing porn now are much more savvy when it comes to finances than any girls in the 90's. If you look at the top girls in porn they have not just made good money but have accumulated small amounts of wealth. Adriana Chechick, Lana Rhoades, Riley Reid. All look to have very comfortable lives. All have escorted as recently as 3 ish years ago but at this point it's safe to say they don't need to again. With only fans, YouTube channels and now a lot of them are moving to twitch there's too many other options for the ones with huge fan bases to go broke.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, all the above will be broke once their looks start to fade. The depression will set in and the downward spiral will begin. No one escapes it.

[QUOTE=HoeWhisperer;5572261]Like with anything the average person gets smarter over time. The girls doing porn now are much more savvy when it comes to finances than any girls in the 90's. If you look at the top girls in porn they have not just made good money but have accumulated small amounts of wealth. Adriana Chechick, Lana Rhoades, Riley Reid. All look to have very comfortable lives. All have escorted as recently as 3 ish years ago but at this point it's safe to say they don't need to again. With only fans, YouTube channels and now a lot of them are moving to twitch there's too many other options for the ones with huge fan bases to go broke.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I would not be surprised if they still see a client or two with deep pockets for a private date, but Adriana Chechik, Lana Rhoades, Riley Reid, Janice Griffith and others of their status are a brand now, and not just sex workers. They've successfully leveraged their name recognition into other avenues.

OF and similar platforms also give performers an advantage not offered by conventional shoots: content ownership and a steady revenue stream. No need to risk catching an STI from a random performer. Or as happened to Steve Holmes recently, show up on set expecting a girl, to find the producers booked him with a trans. Girls on OF can just fuck their boyfriend or girlfriends.

No need to risk a UTI and fatal sepsis as did Olivia Nova, because a lousy production refuses to give the girls a bathroom break. Just shoot OF content during downtime while traveling the world, like Ivy Wolfe or Mia Melano.

[QUOTE=RyanLandis;5572400]Don't worry, all the above will be broke once their looks start to fade. The depression will set in and the downward spiral will begin. No one escapes it.[/QUOTE]That is also a likely outcome.

The ones who make it keep away from drugs, ditch dipshit boyfriends, and position themselves for an advantageous marriage. Taylor Rain went from getting airtight triple penetrated and creampied by packs of neighbors, to a married realtor with kids. I'm sure her simp husband wonders why the kids don't look like him or anyone else in his family.

The reality is that most of these girls become used to a high end lifestyle. Often involving drugs. That exceeds their revenue; where their number one commodity, their looks, will depreciate over time.

Like Jenna Jameson, they'll pick up expensive habits like drugs; they do not plan for the time when their looks will begin to fade, when subscriptions and shoots, book deals and invites to TV shows will begin to taper. The end result is that they overextend themselves and burn through their cash reserves within years, wind up as worn out has-beens with limited options beyond selling their holes for loose change. That is how she ultimately met her new beta husband, a shady Israeli jeweler, and got yet another chance at a comfortable liefestyle:

[URL]https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a26398797/jenna-jameson-lior-bitton-relationship-timeline/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RyanLandis;5572400]Don't worry, all the above will be broke once their looks start to fade. The depression will set in and the downward spiral will begin. No one escapes it.[/QUOTE]I would estimate that the top tier girls make enough from their own channels that, if they're financially savvy they will be more or less set for life. My example with JG was both a low-end estimate, and completely disregarded any other income she makes from promoting sex toys or doing mainstream porn shoots.

I remember watching some news piece that interviewed strippers that make a shitton and then retire at 30 with 3 houses in Vegas that they rent out for good income. It's not hard to extend this to people able to leverage OF for large income.

Of course, not all of them are this financially astute, some of them get into drugs etc. And are left without too many options later in life. But I don't think it's a trivial percentage that are smarter about it.