Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3050262]Although personally I hope that the GoGo Spa prosecution fails, it appears from news reports that the prosecutor will have some evidence of prostitution, because according to the prosecutor at least one provider and some "johns" are cooperating with the authorities. Additional supporting evidence could be condoms, lube, etc. , seized during the raid, and credit card transaction records (GoGo Spa advertised that it accepted credit cards). Also, the prosecution could offer one of the defendants (who has already been identified as less culpable) a sweet deal to become a witness for the government.[/QUOTE]Kaneshiro didn't seem to have any problems retrying the game room case over and over again. Even if he loses, if he's willing to keep on retrying cases, he can easily make running an AMP an unprofitable enterprise just by dragging people into court over and over again.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3050262]Additional supporting evidence could be condoms, lube, etc. , seized during the raid, [/QUOTE]The description of and the arrangement of the whips, restraints and emphasis on condoms during the Hawaii News Now report made me chuckle. They'd find way more interesting things if the police raises a dorm at the UH.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3050263]The question is, is this law going to be used as a real tool against the continued existence of AMPs or is it going to be used as a tool of coercion to get AMP owners to pay the fuck up. The other question is, how much of this is just talk? Talk for reelection, or just the usual PR spin elected officials shoot off ("The homeless is a challenging problem for our island ohana. We need more education for our keiki. Look at all the Hawaiian words I'm using. Rail is going to come in under budget. ") or do they really mean it (yeah, I'd be as surprised as you are if this is the case).

Also keep in mind that Kaneshiro has had a lousy track record when it comes to going up against this sort of thing past prostitution busts and the game room prosecutions. Seems almost personal now.

So if this is some Dudley Do-Right, the outlook is very, very bad. The best case scenario is that this just part of some shakedown by the HPD.[/QUOTE]I think with the new sex trafficking law that is the game changer. Hawaii never had this before and since most of the girls come from another state its so easy to pin the owners for trafficking. This in turn corners the girl to work with the cops or feds identifying the mama etc. They for sure are not going to take the rap. They are just prostitutes. The owners and mamas are the ones they want to get. Probably along with trafficking there is going to be money laundering and tax evasion. You can just see how the prosecution will go in a case like this. I don't think we mongers have to worry they don't want us. We are just horny fuckers getting our load off. I don't think this will stop any of them though they all believe its not going to happen to them till it does.

I think she goes by viet lily. I just knew her as lily. Waaaay back, in her rakuen days. Does anyone know if she is still around? And if she is still an AMP? If so, where or how can I get in touch with her?

Mahalos to all you braddahs out dea. I've never been to any of those "spas," but was seriously thinking of checking them out this eve. As you can see from my previous post, I'm looking for viet lily, and I heard she might be working at one of those spas at that building. But thanks to you guys writing about the very recent bust. I think I'll pass. Bummers, b-because junior is feeling energetic today.

If the majority of local mongers, out of fear, quit patronizing Honolulu AMPs, and the best providers decide to leave town for safer cities, I'm wondering if, regardless of what transpires in court, a bunch of the AMPs will go belly-up via customer and employee attrition? Maybe this is the bottom-line intended goal of the powers-that-be in this current situation?

This was just your one or two a year bust just for Public Satisfaction. As you can see by the three owners, they were greedy and didn't play by the AMP rules. You don't see all the other AMPz scared or shutting down, because they know that their covered. Kaneshiro had a big flop on the news regarding the gambling machine raids. Twice he failed with that bust. Now watch for the counter suits against the city for that failed prosecution and arrest.
Even cops got convicted for kicking guys in the face and throwing chairs.

Plus a GoGo's provider spilled the beans against these owners more than likely because they were treating her and their girls unfairly. AMPz been open for decades. They get raided, then reopen soon after. They provide good cover money for HPD. They just have to play the game. So keep on amping, or better yet, find a independent. AMPz are always the target because their exposed to the public.

Rus

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3050265]Kaneshiro didn't seem to have any problems retrying the game room case over and over again. Even if he loses, if he's willing to keep on retrying cases, he can easily make running an AMP an unprofitable enterprise just by dragging people into court over and over again.[/QUOTE]Negative, that gambling case will probably make him lose re-election. AMPZ are here to stay. The law even stopped undercover from having any type of physical contact with providers. The only real thing that they go for is human trafficking, or providers working w / o green cards. It's hard to bust prostitution w / o contact, unless the provider was stupid enough to discuss sex for a dollar amount prior to the actual action. A provider can have sex with an undercover cop, never discuss $, or accept $, and the cop will have nothing on her. The GoGo provider was busted and probably didn't have a choice but to cooperate. I been amping since the 70's, pretty sure it's not going away. Monger on.

Rus.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4[/URL]

Felt like Paula and I had Kison all to ourselves tonight. I don't recall hearing anything outside our room. Did some drive-bys and everything looked quiet around 2 am. I'm sure things will pick up again soon, just like always after someone goes down.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3050461]If the majority of local mongers, out of fear, quit patronizing Honolulu AMPs, and the best providers decide to leave town for safer cities, I'm wondering if, regardless of what transpires in court, a bunch of the AMPs will go belly-up via customer and employee attrition? Maybe this is the bottom-line intended goal of the powers-that-be in this current situation?[/QUOTE]Visit your favorite girl this week, so they don't leave on bacation. Best time is after a bust. I support the ones that use real pictures.

[QUOTE=MongersRus;3050604]The law even stopped undercover from having any type of physical contact with providers. [/QUOTE]The current version of Hawaii's basic prostitution law does not prohibit undercover investigating officers "from having any type of physical contact with providers". Rather, it only restricts officers from engaging in "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3051079]The current version of Hawaii's basic prostitution law does not prohibit undercover investigating officers "from having any type of physical contact with providers". Rather, it only restricts officers from engaging in "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".[/QUOTE]I concur. HB1926.

Amends the offense of prostitution to include sadomasochistic abuse under the definition of "sexual conduct" and clarify that a law enforcement officer shall not be exempt from the offense if the law enforcement officer engages in sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse while acting in the course and scope of duties. Amends the offense of solicitation of a minor for prostitution. Clarifies sentencing of repeat offenders and enhanced sentences for repeat violent and sexual offenders. Amends the applicability of a deferred acceptance of guilty plea or nolo contendere plea. (HB1926 CD1).

Basically providers just need to be smart on how to handle undercovers. Most normal mongers would or should not negotiate tips before the deed. That should be the sign of LE. They trap you into offering or agreeing on a price, and that's it, your busted.

[QUOTE=Asstro;3050985]Visit your favorite girl this week, so they don't leave on bacation. Best time is after a bust. I support the ones that use real pictures.[/QUOTE]Amen Asstro. I couldn't agree more. I know I'm can't be described as a true source as I don't normally have much to say or post about but we all know who we can trust and who we can't. Not sure about further raids and such but I feel that the good parlors and girls will always be about giving the best services they can no matter what is going on. They might be more skeptical about newer mongers but think they will always take care of the ones they know and trust. I'm being kinda watchful of things these days but not going to stop seeing the girls I want to see and I know they appreciate that. Be safe but still have fun gang.

Anyone got info on this one [URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRubs/%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8Fperfect-and-satisfying-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8Fspecial-skills-%EF%B8%8F-every-man-s-erotic-fantasy-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F100-satisfation-/5503844.[/URL] Type of services, do's and don'ts, etc. Lmk PM if needed. TIA.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3051079]The current version of Hawaii's basic prostitution law does not prohibit undercover investigating officers "from having any type of physical contact with providers". Rather, it only restricts officers from engaging in "sexual penetration or sadomasochistic abuse".[/QUOTE]So what you're saying is the cops can show their dicks, get touchy freely, but no FIV or FIA or Sm stuff. And in theory a female cop could show her tits and vag (though I doubt you find any women that dedicated to their job with the HPD).

So the new LE check should be doing a little FIV or FIA and maybe a little spanking when meeting a new girl?