I believe that's the Ava they are talking about. Both your attached pic and current pics are fake.
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;6172062]Is it this Ava? I would blow up PO's phone if it is this Ava that returned.[/QUOTE]
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I believe that's the Ava they are talking about. Both your attached pic and current pics are fake.
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;6172062]Is it this Ava? I would blow up PO's phone if it is this Ava that returned.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you. She probably would ask you not to say anything if you revealed you knew her old name. I understand why people do that but the [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands]Kgirls Rebrands[/URL] thread has no exception. Many of us just want to know if girl is worth seeing and if she's new.
[QUOTE=Kaamper;6172388]...Third, if she was trying to stay anonymous, it was a pretty anemic attempt. Fourth, with all the dishonest rebranding and profiteering, what the hell do we owe any of them anyway?[/QUOTE]
Who will answer the call of booty? I think LA Ruby is back in OC with upcharge for BB.
[QUOTE=Kaamper;6171727]Eva is the famous Ava from M a few years back. She's beautiful and I'd say YMMV on service. Always been great for me, but others have had mediocre service from her. If you need wild PSE with fluids slinging against the walls, then she's not your girl. If you want a sweet style session with a pretty girl, then look her up. She's actually prbably in her early 30's now, but still looks great. Encanced D cups with a thin waist.[/QUOTE]In my opinion you hit the nail on the head regarding service. My experience back then when she was Ava was the WORST Kgirl experience I have ever had, bar none. My session with her started out fine with friendly banter, the blue toast and shower, and then to the bedroom. She started a BBBJ with me lying on my back on the bed. Unfortunately it was one of those times when I wasn't getting a real stiff erection, so I asked her to use a finger and probe my backside. She did so but after about 5 minutes she just stopped and asked me if I wanted to do anything else. I suggested that we just continue with this for a bit more. At that point, she got up off the bed and told me she didn't want to continue our appointment any longer and that she would give me back one half of the fee. I sat there stunned and then asked her what was wrong. She didn't reply.
I left and texted M the booker as to what had occurred. Within minutes, M called me and was totally apologetic. She asked if I wanted to see anyone else, but I declined. The next day Ava was not included with M's ad. I didn't write a negative review on the other site since I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and since her ad was now down it would have been a waste of effort. I do know that no other provider has ever done this to me and I have been in this hobby since 2001.
So, as far as service being YMMV, I just believe she's got an extreme case of GPS. For those of you who want to try her I suggest that you don't go into the session with the attitude of "Nothing like that could ever happen to me!" I have always been a respectful client with the gals and have been complimented as such. All I can add is that you win some and you lose some. Oh, and thanks for identifying her. I was thinking of trying to set up an appointment. Wouldn't that have been interesting?
I think you got the rate wrong. She offers BB special of 300 + 60 bbmsog. I think 360 will be the standard all inclusive rate if MADD fails with No Pussy November.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6172060]Doesn't sound like it. But if you miss Dana, you can have her rn as Lani MKC in OC for 300+100 bb+40 msog.[/QUOTE]
Some of us are busy with our day job like pimping and seeing new girls and making our current favorites happy. This is not a race. We all finish with a happy ending.
[QUOTE=BigFace100;6172103]All yall super late LOL, told yall I kicked it with her like 2 months ago smh.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigFace100;6003468]So I got a Kakao msg from a old atf that was top1 yup top1 cause she was the only 10 all around that I ever seen in this business. Anyways for you old school mongers M Ava kakao me letting me know she will be visiting LA this weekend not to work but for a couple day layover to her next destination. So she asked if I can pick her up in LAX Friday and glad her flight touches down after my work hours so I told her yup I got her and got her a room at the Marriott just because I got to Casanova this girl real quick so I can hit it again before she goes to Korea. So wish me luck ill keep y'all informed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6172689]I think you got the rate wrong. She offers BB special of 300 + 60 bbmsog. I think 360 will be the standard all inclusive rate if MADD fails with No Pussy November.[/QUOTE]Good to know MKC isn't +100 bb across the board.
[QUOTE=Majieroero;6170948]BBFS offered in Japan as well. It's hush hush for delivery / fashion health because they technically don't even allow penetration, but many girls do it for extra cash. You'd have to negotiate on the spot and be pretty discreet about it. Girls can BL you if you force the issue upon them. Soaplands are a different story. Although technically all soaplands are supposed to be CFS, some girls and entire stores will offer BBFS if you go to the right place and pay the right price. Generally speaking, BBFS is almost expected for the higher tiered soaplands that range above 40,000 yen for 2 hours. For example, most girls in Lavieen Rose at Yoshiwara offers guaranteed BBFS CIP for about 65,000 yen. Of course it's not advertised that way, but that's commonly known amongst Japanese mongers. It's not cheap, but you get 2 hours with MSOG, nuru, mat play, and a whole slew of bath service included. You can test your luck with cheaper places, but those are more of a hit or miss. The Japanese lingo is NN (Nama Nakadashi = Raw CIP) or NS (Nama Sotodashi = Raw No-CIP). You can get more definitive info here if you read / speak Japanese:
Https: 3 nenbkumi-[URL]chinpachisensei.net[/URL]/ category / soapland-nn-ns /.[/QUOTE]I hired a girl once via health delivery. I do remember the service being decent but ended up disappointing due CFS. I was offered P2 P which was suppose to "simulate" BBFS or some nonsense like that. Is it a gamble that you'd negotiate with the girl when she's in your room about doing FS BBFS? I don't remember the website I used, it could of been OL Style or one of their sister websites.
Soaplands I hear is the thing to go to if you want service. From what I have been reading, most will be off limits to foreigners and / or if you don't speak Japanese. You might get lucky when they have a slow day but they might possibly dump you with the lesser girls if you do get in. Do you suggest I just walk along the Yoshiwara street one morning and see if someone takes me in?
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6172681]Who will answer the call of booty? I think LA Ruby is back in OC with upcharge for BB.[/QUOTE]I will answer the call. If you check my earlier posts, I missed Ruby 2 years ago in OC. I am the tanned and curvy slayer.
[QUOTE=GG1234;6170800]You're not going to find the best girls by going to sites that cater to non-Japanese people. The premier site for pay-for-play advertisement in Japan is [B][url=https://www.cityheaven.net/]CityHeaven[/url][/B], and you'll need to view it with a Japanese IP address. If you're outside of Japan, you'll probably need a VPN.
For discussions, you'll find them at [B][url=https://itest.bbspink.com/subback/soap]5ch's adult boards[/url][/B]. A Japanese IP address is required here too.
The best Western resource I've found for learning how the industry works in Japan is the [B][url=https://wiki.tokyonightstyle.com/Main_Page]Tokyo Night Style Wiki[/url][/B].
If this is a frustrating amount of text, and you just want some eye candy, I like [B][url=https://proportion2009.jp/companion]Proportion[/url][/B]. They're a high-end soapland in Yokohama that specializes in big tits.
Finally, if you're looking for BBFS, their slang for it is Natural Service or NS.
Koreans doing Delivery Health (outcall) in Japan can be found via [B][url=https://kan-deli.net/main.php]kan-deli.net[/url][/B].
There are a few sites that track JAV actresses who also escort. Check out [B][url=http://avfuuzoku.com/]AV Fuuzoku[/url][/B] or search for [B]AV 風俗[/B].[/QUOTE]I appreciate the info. Those two I mentioned were easy in the sense of booking, but the quality of the girls were severely lacking. I asked once with Asianmystique about BBFS and I was shut down with a hard no. Ever since that first time hiring a girl from them, I've never used them again. I've used Nastydolls twice, one I don't even remember the experience and the second one had an older MILF who had a fish market between her legs. She had no business charging her rate and even had the gull to decline BBFS. From these two times told me enough to know that their service though convenient, you overpay for mediocre experiences.
Do you have any thoughts about [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/?[/URL] Alot of good things are mentioned about them, but of course no one mentions BB with their girls. They seem to have alot of other extra services yet it isn't the one I want.
I remember ava's old ad several years ago.
She has dimples and a phat ass?
I remember her tan look in the photos.
I never partook. I thought she looked a bit too plastic.
Is this what she really looks like-.
[QUOTE=Veni1;6172685]In my opinion you hit the nail on the head regarding service. My experience back then when she was Ava was the WORST Kgirl experience I have ever had, bar none. My session with her started out fine with friendly banter, the blue toast and shower, and then to the bedroom. She started a BBBJ with me lying on my back on the bed. Unfortunately it was one of those times when I wasn't getting a real stiff erection, so I asked her to use a finger and probe my backside. She did so but after about 5 minutes she just stopped and asked me if I wanted to do anything else. I suggested that we just continue with this for a bit more. At that point, she got up off the bed and told me she didn't want to continue our appointment any longer and that she would give me back one half of the fee. I sat there stunned and then asked her what was wrong. She didn't reply.
I left and texted M the booker as to what had occurred. Within minutes, M called me and was totally apologetic. She asked if I wanted to see anyone else, but I declined. The next day Ava was not included with M's ad. I didn't write a negative review on the other site since I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and since her ad was now down it would have been a waste of effort. I do know that no other provider has ever done this to me and I have been in this hobby since 2001.
So, as far as service being YMMV, I just believe she's got an extreme case of GPS. For those of you who want to try her I suggest that you don't go into the session with the attitude of "Nothing like that could ever happen to me!" I have always been a respectful client with the gals and have been complimented as such. All I can add is that you win some and you lose some. Oh, and thanks for identifying her. I was thinking of trying to set up an appointment. Wouldn't that have been interesting?[/QUOTE]I concur. She was pretty but her service was very underwhelming. Never went back and will not now either. Can somebody ask her to convince Rain to make a comeback. That would be a reason for me to drive to WLA every day.
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Do you have any thoughts about [URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/?[/URL] Alot of good things are mentioned about them, but of course no one mentions BB with their girls. They seem to have alot of other extra services yet it isn't the one I want.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about [URL]hentaitokyo.com[/URL], but I'm going to pass along this site that was setup by CityHeaven to help foreigners find shops that are foreigner-friendly. [B][url=https://www.cityheaven.net/kikaku/japan-nightleisure-tokyo/?_article=1647414&_link=1573519&_link_update_time=20220829210616]JAPAN NIGHT LEISURE: Many Foreigner Welcome Businesses Listed[/url][/B]. It looks like they took down their IP block on non-Japanese IP addresses, so no more VPN needed to browse around either.
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Soaplands I hear is the thing to go to if you want service. From what I have been reading, most will be off limits to foreigners and / or if you don't speak Japanese. You might get lucky when they have a slow day but they might possibly dump you with the lesser girls if you do get in. Do you suggest I just walk along the Yoshiwara street one morning and see if someone takes me in?[/QUOTE]If you want BBFS at Yoshiwara, the guy that Majieroero linked to did 90% of the homework for you already. According to him, there are [B][url=https://3nenbkumi-chinpachisensei.net/yoshiwara-soap-nama-nn-ns/]65 stores that offer BBFS[/url][/B] to some degree in Yoshiwara. It's not every girl, but the ones who offer it will often be marked with a [B]★[/B] next to their name. He even made a [B][url=https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1TenCFJ-zsPKwn39wA1yjF-WmKNufL788&ll=35.72357181460371%2C139.7951267&z=18]Google Maps Overlay[/url][/B] for this. It's up to you to cross reference his list with the [B][url=https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/shop-list/?shopname_search=JAPAN%20NIGHT%20LEISURE%20SOAP%20LAND&translation=en]list of foreigner-friendly soaplands[/url][/B] in Tokyo of which there are currently 19. I recommend installing the [B][url=https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-translate/aapbdbdomjkkjkaonfhkkikfgjllcleb]Google Translate browser extension[/url][/B] if you haven't already to help you out during your research. It'll let you highlight text with your mouse and get a translation inline.
[QUOTE=GG1234;6173230]If you want BBFS at Yoshiwara, the guy that Majieroero linked to did 90% of the homework for you already. According to him, there are [B][url=https://3nenbkumi-chinpachisensei.net/yoshiwara-soap-nama-nn-ns/]65 stores that offer BBFS[/url][/B] to some degree in Yoshiwara. It's not every girl, but the ones who offer it will often be marked with a [B]★[/B] next to their name. He even made a [B][url=https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1TenCFJ-zsPKwn39wA1yjF-WmKNufL788&ll=35.72357181460371%2C139.7951267&z=18]Google Maps Overlay[/url][/B] for this. It's up to you to cross reference his list with the [B][url=https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/shop-list/?shopname_search=JAPAN%20NIGHT%20LEISURE%20SOAP%20LAND&translation=en]list of foreigner-friendly soaplands[/url][/B] in Tokyo of which there are currently 19. I recommend installing the [B][url=https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-translate/aapbdbdomjkkjkaonfhkkikfgjllcleb]Google Translate browser extension[/url][/B] if you haven't already to help you out during your research. It'll let you highlight text with your mouse and get a translation inline.[/QUOTE]Kind of off topic but there was an actual japanese agency that was in oc before but only lasted a few months. Wish they come back. They were advertised cfs but had bb with one of them.