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[QUOTE=Merovingian2;7088709]I'm looking for a reliable wingman to occasionally tag team dumb 20 yos off seeking. Must be 40+ and I strongly prefer a tech bro because non-tech guys are too cheap for this hobby. Put those stock options and shares to good use. LOL. Msg me if interested but don't waste my time or yours.[/QUOTE]Keep that GPS strong in the PNW! I have money and I'm not in tech. How'd I manage that?
[QUOTE=Surplice;7085727]Mind to share your filtering and pipelining strategy? Do you chat a bit over in-app text or no? Do you do a video / phone call or no? Meet and greet only or one of the calls, etc?
I've been out of the SB space for a bit and forgot how f*ing annoying these money grubbing GPS hoes are. So many day they want connection but then do one word replies, don't ask me questions back, or go straight to what are you looking for as if I don't have 80% of the text on my profile dedicated to that.
Related, I date civvy moms easily so they aren't interesting to me.[/QUOTE]When I get a one word response I do: " txt me " (I have a burner). If they do they and give me the " hey " in txt I go: who is this? Actually filters out a bunch. If you're on SB you'll go broke that way but.
I agree with your last point. Over 35 and divorced with kids? Why pay for that unless they're your kids. Haha IMO at that age ladies should sugar date to enjoy time with a successful fella. Meaning, a decent meal, stimulating convo and sex! Again, 90% of the girls on seeking suck at being SBs! And us fellas got to teach um! Simping is the real disease that mutates into GPS (I took that L in the past). Maybe we should duct tape our cocks and wallets! These are average women at best in most cases!
Peace.
P.S. Most of um don't read your profile. They are swiping 100's of dudes. Some can't read (I'm not kidding).
Meowken.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e71ef74-d9d5-4c5d-a1e5-a713349ff74b[/URL]
Saw her a few times, BBFS 400, she was pretty non pro but I think she's starting to be more higher volume, I'm sure I'm not the only one here who's met her. Kind of flakey and if she's in a bad mood session can be pretty mid. But even the minimum service is tolerable. Also pretty crazy partier if you're into that.
YMMV on menu and price.
You aren't paying them to stay, you are paying them to leave you alone when you are done with them. I've had to cut quite a few off because that got to clingy or stalky or weird. If you are compensating them it is more likely they go away peacefully. Also a lot of the older ones have a kink about being paid to fuck and it can be a blast to indulge that.
None of the sugar girls I've seen (and I've seen quite a few) have let me meet or have any kind of contact with their kids, and I can't imagine how that would go if they did.
Someone in their early 20's can still look good and in shape with largely no effort. For somebody in their early 30's or older to do that it is a good indication that they have their shit on more or less straight. There is a lady in her early 40's who lives near me but if you saw her you'd guess she was twenty years younger. It takes a lot of time and effort and no small amount of money to keep looking that good, and she does look good.
The older ones on the average know how to please a man and don't need to be educated, and at the same time they are more willing to listen.
One of my old faves was a pretty hot lady in her late 30's who would show up at my hotel room in a trench coat, high heels, and a butt plug. She was an absolute freak. I figured out later on that her daughter was also on the site but I never got any mom-daughter action from her. They are both long gone now so don't bother looking.
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;7094119]Meowken.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e71ef74-d9d5-4c5d-a1e5-a713349ff74b[/URL]
Saw her a few times, BBFS 400, she was pretty non pro but I think she's starting to be more higher volume, I'm sure I'm not the only one here who's met her. Kind of flakey and if she's in a bad mood session can be pretty mid. But even the minimum service is tolerable. Also pretty crazy partier if you're into that.
YMMV on menu and price.[/QUOTE]I had her on my rotation for over two months and agree with you. At first it was great but I also thought she was getting more "pro" by the second month of seeing her. She initially wanted 500 but talked her down to 400 as well. Very hot but not reliable. She canceled last minute on me two times. She has a friend who she wanted to join in with us as well for a threesome, but I didn't get a chance to partake before cutting her loose. It was hard enough schedule with just her.
I love Redheads, Strawberry Blondes, and Gingers!
Prefer 30-45, Skinny, Athletic, Fit, or Tiny, and Northend-ish (Kirkland to Edmonds and as far North as Marysville.
Anyone have experience with these 3 or have other recommendations?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dfe58559-7a02-4b82-96b3-0be4f30d8823[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1639a351-d040-4b66-a641-f02950a1a827[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/67f4af1d-68a1-402a-9750-ffd568256b99[/URL]
Rose
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c1cff6a-dbb4-454f-9858-d4fcf125d34c[/URL]
GPS 500 for meet and greet, 900 for meetings
Lily
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2c954b78-a948-49af-a063-7b895da61f0c[/URL]
Picture seller
SassyEuropean
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ddc1857c-6d33-4611-931d-65309b70b979[/URL]
GPS 1500 ppm
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/463e6514-ed50-40ad-942c-32ec4b811961[/URL]
This one thinks she's photogenic. Oof! Did I still reach out? Yes. I have a slew of reusable bags that are breathable.
I'll let yall know how it goes.
So-Crates.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3f0dab1-ab7a-4c9b-87a1-7267d4592b61[/URL]
Anyone recently see her? Seems TGTBT, especially at that young age. There are a 2 posts about her a couple years ago but was wondering if anyone has any recent experience with her. Thanks all.
Hi guys, I have a question not sure if anyone has good answer for me:
I have used seeking, but now I also want something more meaningful and maybe start a family one day. Is there any sites like Seeking I can join, but mainly for dating and LTR?
It is just mainstream apps haven't worked for me and I am looking for a site that is easier for men to get dates in general. I don't mind paying membership or spend some money etc. If it actually works.
Any input would help. Thanks!
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7098720][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/463e6514-ed50-40ad-942c-32ec4b811961[/URL]
This one thinks she's photogenic. Oof! Did I still reach out? Yes. I have a slew of reusable bags that are breathable.
I'll let yall know how it goes.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]Careful, that one might have a sausage-shaped surprise for you.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7103161]Careful, that one might have a sausage-shaped surprise for you.[/QUOTE]Warning heeded! That is one unfortunate looking woman, I have to say. I keep going back to the profile and that face is just homely. You just can't beat the value (or the bargaining "IDGAF") of nabbing an ugly duckling.
Nothing yet. Going back in, fellas. Holds breath.
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=BillAbc;7102974]Hi guys, I have a question not sure if anyone has good answer for me:
I have used seeking, but now I also want something more meaningful and maybe start a family one day. Is there any sites like Seeking I can join, but mainly for dating and LTR?
It is just mainstream apps haven't worked for me and I am looking for a site that is easier for men to get dates in general. I don't mind paying membership or spend some money etc. If it actually works.
Any input would help. Thanks![/QUOTE]Women swipe left on 80% of all men on dating apps. Explains why you don't have any luck and neither did I. I'd say if your not over 6'2" and a 8 or above in looks, the regular apps are a waste. Remember, women live in delusion! Seeking has been ruined by normies using it as a way to make a living. I say all the time, most women have no idea what a sugar baby nor the slightest idea of how to be one. They are simply there to get paid for breathing. Not all of them, but you're looking for a needle in the, well you know. When I've found success is when I tell the exactly how it's going to go form communication to time together and they get one chance to comply (we are PAYING them!!) then I'm out. The ones that get in line (metaphorically, relax guys LOL) work out. Most don't. Then being broke does wonders haha. I play way less for sure, but my dignity is intact! There are so many avenues for us fellas to wet our willies, I'm shocked men have issues finding babies. Well, actually I know the problem but not into triggering anyone in this delicate time. LOL.
I had a 23 yo cutie (and anyone here would be happy to be seen on the street by your homies with her trust me) in Texas quote 1 k (LOL). I said " I have five and you come right over no dinner or nonsense. " She was there an hour later! Seattle is not an easy place to play lately. Wonder why? Hehe.
[QUOTE=BillAbc;7102974]Hi guys, I have a question not sure if anyone has good answer for me:
I have used seeking, but now I also want something more meaningful and maybe start a family one day. Is there any sites like Seeking I can join, but mainly for dating and LTR?
It is just mainstream apps haven't worked for me and I am looking for a site that is easier for men to get dates in general. I don't mind paying membership or spend some money etc. If it actually works.
Any input would help. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have legit dated a couple girls of seeking and I've heard other sites like whatsyourrpice and stuff work. But you have to be honest with yourself about whether these girls would want to date you.
I've never been someone who slayed on tinder, I'm average height, but other than that I am a pretty decent looking dude. I have money, dress reasonably well, and (despite my user name) usually treat the girls I meet of seeking pretty well.
The reason I use seeking and don't just meet girls is:
1. I don't regularly socially interact with attractive girls in their 20's.
2. I'm not somebody who is hot enough to kill on tinder.
Other than that, I am somebody that a lot of the girls wouldn't mind dating.
Think of seeking as paying for access and once you have the access it is up to you to get the girls to like you. If they don't like you, no amount of money will make up for it. You'll just get a lot of fake interest.
I'm not saying every girl I meet on seeking wants to date me, some of them are more pro and some of them don't like me that much. When I go out with a girl and I can tell she doesn't like me very much and is just doing it for the money, I'll maybe see her a couple of times but I don't spend my time trying to convince her to like me. Some girls I go out with I can tell that they appreciate the nice things I can do for them, they aren't all about the money, and if I treat them right they will treat me right. If none of the girls you go out with act like that with you, then you should be honest with yourself about whether you are someone they would want to date in general. You can always change yourself to make yourself more attractive, this includes personality, no one likes someone who is boring and desperate.
Again, I don't know you personally so this is not a person attack, just some advice.
Anyways hope this helps!
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7103187]Warning heeded! That is one unfortunate looking woman, I have to say. I keep going back to the profile and that face is just homely. You just can't beat the value (or the bargaining "IDGAF") of nabbing an ugly duckling.
Nothing yet. Going back in, fellas. Holds breath.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]She looks like she has a nice rack, so she has that going for her hopefully.
[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7104127]She looks like she has a nice rack, so she has that going for her hopefully.[/QUOTE]Only reason I'm still there, my friend. The only reason LOL.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7104374]Only reason I'm still there, my friend. The only reason LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe you'll get lucky and she'll cave your head in with her BJ skills, or maybe she's a 3 holer, or maybe she likes searching for your tonsils thru your asshole, or all of the above. Once the lights are low and the action is starting, are you really paying attention to her face? Haha.
[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7104950]Maybe you'll get lucky and she'll cave your head in with her BJ skills, or maybe she's a 3 holer, or maybe she likes searching for your tonsils thru your asshole, or all of the above. Once the lights are low and the action is starting, are you really paying attention to her face? Haha.[/QUOTE]Everyone listen up! This is a true friend; when you're starting to second-thought the butters on SA 'cause the face is too potent for sober eyes, a friend like ye ol' ScotchYoke here gives you the ol' Remember The Titans pep talk to give you a second wind. Much obliged! 'Course post-nut clarity is going to be MothaFucka!
In other news, this one I almost closed the deal a few weeks back but because of uncertainties with my job, I told her I wanted to hold off. In the meantime (2-weeks) another fella swooped in and locked her down with an arrangement, enough so that she didn't want to pursue our arrangement further out of respect.
20's, true redhead — ask me how I know, just moved to her own apartment. Not on BC but still willing to be bred. She mentioned early on that she will cross that bridge when she comes to it. Anal isn't in her repertoire but willing to train. Downsides: she doesn't swallow, no cum in hair but you can cum on face. She is a stoner chick, super cool.
I'm sure one of you fellas can talk her into a side arrangement. I don't care to pursue any further so I let her go. She wanted $500/ meet. She said 90 min but I really don't think she'd stick to that especially if she was enjoying her time. She once mentioned staying the night because she didn't feel like driving back to Federal Way area if she came to me in North Everett. But YMMV as always.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1db6c0de-d507-412c-873b-a34a5d33c454[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;7104094]I have legit dated a couple girls of seeking and I've heard other sites like whatsyourrpice and stuff work. But you have to be honest with yourself about whether these girls would want to date you.
I've never been someone who slayed on tinder, I'm average height, but other than that I am a pretty decent looking dude. I have money, dress reasonably well, and (despite my user name) usually treat the girls I meet of seeking pretty well.
The reason I use seeking and don't just meet girls is:
1. I don't regularly socially interact with attractive girls in their 20's.
2. I'm not somebody who is hot enough to kill on tinder.
Other than that, I am somebody that a lot of the girls wouldn't mind dating.
Think of seeking as paying for access and once you have the access it is up to you to get the girls to like you. If they don't like you, no amount of money will make up for it. You'll just get a lot of fake interest.
I'm not saying every girl I meet on seeking wants to date me, some of them are more pro and some of them don't like me that much. When I go out with a girl and I can tell she doesn't like me very much and is just doing it for the money, I'll maybe see her a couple of times but I don't spend my time trying to convince her to like me. Some girls I go out with I can tell that they appreciate the nice things I can do for them, they aren't all about the money, and if I treat them right they will treat me right. If none of the girls you go out with act like that with you, then you should be honest with yourself about whether you are someone they would want to date in general. You can always change yourself to make yourself more attractive, this includes personality, no one likes someone who is boring and desperate.
Again, I don't know you personally so this is not a person attack, just some advice.
Anyways hope this helps![/QUOTE]I am decent looking and charming enough to have a lot of success on Seeking.
I have heard quite a few times from Seeking girls that they do not understand why I am there and not doing regular dating.
It has gone to my head a couple of times and I had tried Tinder and FriendFinder, I did get some dates and I did fuck a few of women but my conversion rate was way lower than Seeking and the girls were not that good in bed, and it was just with women closer to my age. The competition for "free" pussy is fierce and women have a lot of options, once they request for financial help, their pool of possibilities reduces enormously and suddenly one becomes super attractive. Plus in my experience in other dating apps you just can not be as direct as in Seeking. In Seeking my profile is super descriptive, mentioning I expect crazy sex, intelligence and an interesting personality. I do not get many responses but the ones that do are usually a good match. I tried the same approach at other apps and I literally got zero responses, I needed to mellow down my profile to start getting matches.
In over 5 years in Seeking I have had a bit over 12 regulars (women I have seen for a few months) , like half had at some point hinted they would be fine dating me monogamously, but I am sure they would still expect financial help. Most of them were women with kids. As I have way too much to handle with my own kids, I am not looking to deal with others. As much as I liked the few of childless women that were interested in something more. I am just done with monogamy.
But if I would be interested on getting a steady girlfriend I would definitely look for her on Seeking. But I would not force it.
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;7104094]I have legit dated a couple girls of seeking and I've heard other sites like whatsyourrpice and stuff work. But you have to be honest with yourself about whether these girls would want to date you.
[/QUOTE]OP you need to understand that most women who decide to do this kind of sex work prefer to keep it hidden or separate from their regular life and that includes the men they come into contact with. It's a fantasy or a game to them, that's how they justify selling their bodies for cash. Do not look for a relationship on these sites, it will always include giving them money.
Speaking from experience, they can have genuine feelings for you but do not fool yourself into thinking you are going to be other than a sugar daddy. It ain't going to happen.
If she's on any of these sites, they are not worth seriously dating. They are here to trade their time and bodies for money, despite whatever delusional way they justify it. We are looking for something to spend our time on. Don't let yourself be given to delusions either, you are a customer and this isn't Pretty Woman. A woman who relies on this sort of thing for fast money or supplemental income is not a good prospect for anything serious, and very few girls on the "Civvy" apps are for that matter. If you want to meet someone to date seriously, do it the old fashioned way outside of these sites, you can meet far higher quality women though the gym, social clubs, events.
I know it can be tough to do it the old fashioned way, but if you're striking out, you might need some self evaluation to see what you can improve.
[QUOTE=GreekExplorer;7105913]If she's on any of these sites, they are not worth seriously dating. They are here to trade their time and bodies for money, despite whatever delusional way they justify it. We are looking for something to spend our time on. Don't let yourself be given to delusions either, you are a customer and this isn't Pretty Woman. A woman who relies on this sort of thing for fast money or supplemental income is not a good prospect for anything serious, and very few girls on the "Civvy" apps are for that matter. If you want to meet someone to date seriously, do it the old fashioned way outside of these sites, you can meet far higher quality women though the gym, social clubs, events.
I know it can be tough to do it the old fashioned way, but if you're striking out, you might need some self evaluation to see what you can improve.[/QUOTE]One thing I've learned from being on SA for a number of years now is that even those women you meet organically (in the gym, social club, events) are the exact same women selling their bodies on the site. I cannot tell you how many girls I've gone to high school / college with, worked with, go to the gym with, ran into, you name it, I have found their profile on SA. Old fashioned way or new, the argument that none of them are "worth seriously dating", if true, you are doomed to be alone. Most of the "civv" girls aren't truly that and are a stone's throw from creating a profile. Most have already heard of SA and have already considered it.
OP, do whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7105952]One thing I've learned from being on SA for a number of years now is that even those women you meet organically (in the gym, social club, events) are the exact same women selling their bodies on the site. I cannot tell you how many girls I've gone to high school / college with, worked with, go to the gym with, ran into, you name it, I have found their profile on SA. Old fashioned way or new, the argument that none of them are "worth seriously dating", if true, you are doomed to be alone. Most of the "civv" girls aren't truly that and are a stone's throw from creating a profile. Most have already heard of SA and have already considered it.
OP, do whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote.[/QUOTE]Yes you're right about that. Which is why you have to be hard filtering them irl, just as you filter the ones on the sites. There are regular girls out there, and it's on us to find them if that's what is desired. But a guy is setting himself up for failure by looking in the wrong watering hole from jump.
There are girls I went to school with who I've seen providing, and even back then I wouldn't have taken them seriously for a relationship. My latest brush with this was by chance encountering the BF of a girl I had seen from SA. Do I discreetly tell the guy, or stay zip. I chose to shut up, and decided it wasn't my place. Very difficult because I would like to know if I was in that position, but the best I can do is make the right moves to never end up in it.
[QUOTE=GreekExplorer;7105913]If she's on any of these sites, they are not worth seriously dating. They are here to trade their time and bodies for money, despite whatever delusional way they justify it. We are looking for something to spend our time on. Don't let yourself be given to delusions either, you are a customer and this isn't Pretty Woman. A woman who relies on this sort of thing for fast money or supplemental income is not a good prospect for anything serious, and very few girls on the "Civvy" apps are for that matter. If you want to meet someone to date seriously, do it the old fashioned way outside of these sites, you can meet far higher quality women though the gym, social clubs, events.
I know it can be tough to do it the old fashioned way, but if you're striking out, you might need some self evaluation to see what you can improve.[/QUOTE]I think it depends on what you are looking for. I wouldn't date that vast majority of women I meet on seeking but I also wouldn't date the vast majority of women I meet IRL. I really see seeking as paying for access, as I mentioned before.
To put it in a blunt way, if a woman is not my peer, I don't care if she makes 80 k or 40 k, I'd rather have someone who is hot and fun to be around. Could I change things about myself? Sure, but this is a sex worker review board, I doubt anyone here is Ryan Reynolds.
Also just to provide more advice / info, there some sugar babies that are ideal for what I am looking for. My ideal sugar baby is someone who enjoys spending time with me and I enjoy spending time with. My ideal sugar baby is not someone I can do the craziest sex acts with for the lowest price.
Some key things I look for / do are.
Pre Screening.
1. Very new to the site. This means that they are not likely jaded and can buy into the fantasy that they are "spoiled by a rich man" and not a sexworker.
This leads to some issues. A lot of people who are very new to site are fake / scammers. But the best finds are also very new to the site.
2. Does not use escort terminology / professional vibes. For example calling me "babe" or "hun".
3. Is not a stripper / does not have strip club pics.
Strippers are the worst set of sugar babies. They milk you for money and are annoying.
4. Does not necessarily have the best photos. Some of the best finds I've had are girls who are very attractive but don't have "model level" or even "instagram level" photo quality.
Before Meeting.
1. Do not mention sex / expectations unless they bring it up.
2. Do not mention PPM / money unless they bring it up.
3. Just try to get them to agree to dinner and take them to a semi nice restaurant.
Important things to figure out, either via text or at first meeting.
1. Do they view spending more time with you as a plus or minus. For example, do they view you taking them out to dinner as a benefit or additional work. Do they view potential travel with you as a benefit or additional work. Do they view staying overnight as convenient or extra work (don't read too much into overnights though, some girls just don't want to stay over with some dude they just met).
2. Do they rely on sugaring as a primary or secondary income. Secondary is much better than primary because they will view your money as an addition to their life ("wow this bag I can get because my sugar daddy is around is great" Primary income means that they are either seeing a bunch of guys or they look at you as their meal ticket, both are bad.
3. Probably goes without saying but, do they have a pleasant personality and seem like they get along with you.
Important things about first time hooking up.
1. Do not push for crazy sex acts. I push for BBFS and that's about it, but if I think a girl is a good find I may use condoms the first couple of times.
2. Do not push for sex on the first date, sometimes it is very possible but for a lot of girls it is a negative.
First few times seeing them.
1. Do not make them ask for money / ppm.
2. Make sure to do a bit extra to spoil them, maybe get them an expensive drink they want, or a gift in the 100-200 range that they like.
3. Do not try to convince them to date you. If they like you, they will start thinking to themselves "wow this guy is really awesome, I can't believe he is paying me to be with him".
4. If it seems like she doesn't like you that much, just drop here and don't try to convince her.
Some of you may look at me sarcastically and be like "gee guy if you're so great why do you have to pay for it. " As I mentioned, I treat seeking as paying for access, I wouldn't have access to hot women in their 20's without it. You could say I should work on that, but seeking works for me.
Anyways that's about all I feel like writing. Not saying everyone is looking for the same thing as me. However, I've had a lot of success with "girlfriend experience" sugar babies in the reasonable 300-500 PPM range. A decent portion of these also have been open to dating me (they bring it up not me).
Is everyone writing this down?
I would tweak a thing or two but not much. Especially that start, treat it like gospel; new accounts with imperfect pics are always a great target. It's how I got the two I'm playing with now and the third I'm about to play with at the Canada border (she's in Vancouver). You don't have to follow it but there's a very basic start for you.
Good notes, MPnP.
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;7107453]Also just to provide more advice / info, there some sugar babies that are ideal for what I am looking for. My ideal sugar baby is someone who enjoys spending time with me and I enjoy spending time with. My ideal sugar baby is not someone I can do the craziest sex acts with for the lowest price.
Some key things I look for / do are.
Pre Screening.
1. Very new to the site. This means that they are not likely jaded and can buy into the fantasy that they are "spoiled by a rich man" and not a sexworker.
This leads to some issues. A lot of people who are very new to site are fake / scammers. But the best finds are also very new to the site.
2. Does not use escort terminology / professional vibes. For example calling me "babe" or "hun".
3. Is not a stripper / does not have strip club pics.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fff5ef57-eddc-42d0-a9bd-f7dffbe1fdd5[/URL]
Very sensual woman who is into waterworks. BBFS YMMV. 300.
PM if you have other contacts to exchange. Looking to retire a couple more from rotation.
[QUOTE=GameMaker007;7107474][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fff5ef57-eddc-42d0-a9bd-f7dffbe1fdd5[/URL]
Very sensual woman who is into waterworks. BBFS YMMV. 300.
PM if you have other contacts to exchange. Looking to retire a couple more from rotation.[/QUOTE]YMMV indeed. It was all covered with me.
[QUOTE=GameMaker007;7107474][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fff5ef57-eddc-42d0-a9bd-f7dffbe1fdd5[/URL]
Very sensual woman who is into waterworks. BBFS YMMV. 300.
PM if you have other contacts to exchange. Looking to retire a couple more from rotation.[/QUOTE]She was also mentioned in the cuddle section on 11-17.
[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddler/snugglebuggy23/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BillAbc;7102974]Hi guys, I have a question not sure if anyone has good answer for me:
I have used seeking, but now I also want something more meaningful and maybe start a family one day. Is there any sites like Seeking I can join, but mainly for dating and LTR?
It is just mainstream apps haven't worked for me and I am looking for a site that is easier for men to get dates in general. I don't mind paying membership or spend some money etc. If it actually works.
Any input would help. Thanks![/QUOTE]I assume you live in Seattle area? Do you go out or engage in social events (not the clubs)? Country club, cigars, something? Are you in the best shape you could possibly be in? Do you know how to dress like a man (many of us got out like our sons) Top of your career? IMO (worth a fart in the wind) dating apps are the WORSE places to look for a LTR. For sugar puss sure, but tinder is going to get you mugged these days! Women that are more serious (and you can still get burned) about finding a guy will go where the successful men gather. Lazy azz women are on SM sites! Men too. Now if you go where the Seahawks chill after a game then them ho's lookin for a Bently haha. Maybe not there. It's hard now because women live in a world of delusion and fairy tales. Get out and see if where you mingle attracts what you want. A network of fellas will know women that know women. You could always make more money (the more you make the better they look!) if you're rounding up mud ducks! There is a trad wife thing trending so maybe. I saw some Amish beauties not long ago on you tube! LOL Get yourself up first man! Seeking to me is for playdates and scammers! If you have the option, get out of Seattle if this is where you have been a long time. There some find ass women in other places. Bigger pool of women waters down the delusion. A tad. Haha.
[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7107787]She was also mentioned in the cuddle section on 11-17.
[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddler/snugglebuggy23/[/URL][/QUOTE]Is this cuddle companion stuff strickly cuddling? Even when traveling?
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7107465]Is everyone writing this down?
I would tweak a thing or two but not much. Especially that start, treat it like gospel; new accounts with imperfect pics are always a great target. It's how I got the two I'm playing with now and the third I'm about to play with at the Canada border (she's in Vancouver). You don't have to follow it but there's a very basic start for you.
Good notes, MPnP.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]Thanks! How is sugaring in vancouver? I've thought about checking it out but never really made an effort. To me the resturants seem much better in vancouver which makes weekend trips fun. Is the price point similar to Seattle but in CAD? When I skimmed the site it seemed like a lot of asians (not that I'm complaining).
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;7107453]Also just to provide more advice / info, there some sugar babies that are ideal for what I am looking for. My ideal sugar baby is someone who enjoys spending time with me and I enjoy spending time with. My ideal sugar baby is not someone I can do the craziest sex acts with for the lowest price.
Some key things I look for / do are.
...[/QUOTE]Thanks, this is solid advice. A few things, there are defaintley a lot more strippers / escorts than there used to be pre-covid. I think a lot of them found their way there during that thing and didn't leave.
Like the part about not making them ask for money, bareback seems to just happen most of the time, at least in my experience. The problem is some guys start using hooker language and the girls assume you see a bunch of escorts and must be carrying something. Watch your language and you're in.
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;7108332]Thanks! How is sugaring in vancouver? I've thought about checking it out but never really made an effort. To me the resturants seem much better in vancouver which makes weekend trips fun. Is the price point similar to Seattle but in CAD? When I skimmed the site it seemed like a lot of asians (not that I'm complaining).[/QUOTE]Ill have to let you know; this is the first time I'm connecting with someone across the border.
She doesn't have a passport so I'll have to head up there but she's pretty adventurous. She wants to try a meet at Peace Arch Park and bring a tent to play in order to save me from driving the whole distance. And neither of us technically have to cross the border, apparently? Anyone heard of the arch being a neutral point between the two?
This particular chick quoted me 100-300 for meet (no sex) and 400-800 with all holes open. I almost blocked her but something told me to ask if CAD or USD. She said CAD and I rushed to Google to do the conversion and I've never been so happy about the strength of the USD to CAD. LOL I talked her to 350 CAD all in (BBFS and Greek) and she was more than happy. Talks have been great so far. I'm busy until after the holidays so I'll have to wait to connect with her.
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7107787]She was also mentioned in the cuddle section on 11-17.
[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddler/snugglebuggy23/[/URL][/QUOTE]Talked to her 3 months ago from SA and texting off the site and everything was good to go with BBFS. We didn't see eye to eye on the donation so I passed. Well, in the midst of you guys bringing her up again, I hit the link and it must have notified her I viewed her profile and she messaged me again and wanted to text offline. We chat a bit and after seeing multiple reviews on here about her and not REALLY being attracted to her, I was pretty straight forward and not beating around the Bush. I asked what she was open to and she said all three holes. I said I have a creampie kink. Her response was I'm not comfortable with unprotected. I said, "okay. I understand. " She responded, "Is that a dealbreaker?" I said, "It is. But thanks for reaching out again. " Of course she was pussy and responded "Well, I think that's really BIZARRE. But okay ✌65039;.
I just finalized by saying "why even say anything? Just move on. " Blocked her and that was it. What's really bizarre is raw dogging or agreeing to it in one moment and then acting holier than thou in another. Anyway, no one's missing anything with her. She is definitely the village bicycle on SA. Going back to MPnD's guidance, this is a perfect example of one you do NOT want to connect with if you're looking for quality SB. She is one you call when you're dry and want a sure thing.
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;7107933]I assume you live in Seattle area? Do you go out or engage in social events (not the clubs)? Country club, cigars, something? Are you in the best shape you could possibly be in? Do you know how to dress like a man (many of us got out like our sons) Top of your career? IMO (worth a fart in the wind) dating apps are the WORSE places to look for a LTR. For sugar puss sure, but tinder is going to get you mugged these days! Women that are more serious (and you can still get burned) about finding a guy will go where the successful men gather. Lazy azz women are on SM sites! Men too. Now if you go where the Seahawks chill after a game then them ho's lookin for a Bently haha. Maybe not there. It's hard now because women live in a world of delusion and fairy tales. Get out and see if where you mingle attracts what you want. A network of fellas will know women that know women. You could always make more money (the more you make the better they look!) if you're rounding up mud ducks! There is a trad wife thing trending so maybe. I saw some Amish beauties not long ago on you tube! LOL Get yourself up first man! Seeking to me is for playdates and scammers! If you have the option, get out of Seattle if this is where you have been a long time. There some find ass women in other places. Bigger pool of women waters down the delusion. A tad. Haha.[/QUOTE]Hi yes, I do live in Seattle area, and I am pretty financially stable, not super rich or anything. I know Seeking is a bad place to look for LTR (as most women on there are not girlfriend / wife materials based on my experience), but I wonder if there are any alternative sites that works well for men for LTR? So far, nothing I typically do that I can efficiently meet attractive women in their 20's-30's in real life though. Do you guys have any ideas?
[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddler/snugglebuggy23/[/URL]
Was curious what she looked like and clicked the link. Everyone has their thing but. Come on boys! Really? Haha.
Had to break why'all's balls.
[QUOTE=BillAbc;7109411]Hi yes, I do live in Seattle area, and I am pretty financially stable, not super rich or anything. I know Seeking is a bad place to look for LTR (as most women on there are not girlfriend / wife materials based on my experience), but I wonder if there are any alternative sites that works well for men for LTR? So far, nothing I typically do that I can efficiently meet attractive women in their 20's-30's in real life though. Do you guys have any ideas?[/QUOTE]Don't know one personally but I'd invest in professional matchmaker if you're looking for a serious women. It's an investment but may save you time and perhaps all.
Of what you've worked for! Maybe. I'm sure there's a good one in Bellevue area.
[QUOTE=PopItFank69;6761600]Anyone have any details on McKenize? Says she's been a member since 2017 so I'd think someone here would have had her before.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0b455294-4f2d-44aa-9b66-6fe265f916f6[/URL]
Also, what's the general consensus on women who want to meet up at a hotel straight away without a public M&G? I mean it's convenient for me but seems like high risk behavior on their part.[/QUOTE]This one seems good. Any recent info?
[QUOTE=DelToro;7105290]I am decent looking and charming enough to have a lot of success on Seeking..[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you don't do well with mirrors.