Sugarbabies?

My apologies; I screwed up the links. Try the ones below.

I also got a number from her and it turns out we chatted a few weeks ago when she had a different profile using the name Mila. She wanted to meet in Xenia. She also wanted $400 and could not host. That's too high and too far away for me. We have never met. The number is voip and her pics have not led me to any PII. Can anyone help?

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6857599]This profile appears on both SA and WYP. The profiles use different locations, descriptions and ages but are still pretty close. There is a definitely age-pic mismatch. Scammer?? 'She' accepted a low offer on WYP. Has anyone made contact or had any interactions?

BAM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f070681e-90a8-4a08-8058-7fadbe680a25[/URL]

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/blzjDGqrJ4PG9gWJ3Vdgkx7X[/URL][/QUOTE]

She definitely reads the forum; I have first hand evidence. There is nothing wrong with that. She is smart and I like her. However, I am a little suprised she would consider coming back.

BAM.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;6857610]If she watches the forum and was checking to see if anybody would notice or if she was only looking for X number of appts and they booked up that quick.[/QUOTE]

On SA, there is a preponderance of girls who look in their 20's, beautiful, who are listed in their 30's. I am guessing most of them are scams. Many have 1 photo. Some of them are starting to write text in their profiles. Some of them are adding addl pics.

Is this seasonal?

By way of example - https://members.seeking.com/member/74be13b2-82d5-454e-bef5-6743615cf2ae

[QUOTE=TroublePlay;6857718]On SA, there is a preponderance of girls who look in their 20's, beautiful, who are listed in their 30's. I am guessing most of them are scams. Many have 1 photo. Some of them are starting to write text in their profiles. Some of them are adding addl pics.

Is this seasonal?

By way of example - https://members.seeking.com/member/74be13b2-82d5-454e-bef5-6743615cf2ae[/QUOTE]I'm seeing the same thing and was also wondering. I chalked it up to sometimes you get waves of fake profiles, but it's funny they are all in their 30's, single photo, and NO profile text.

The link you dropped at least has more than one photo and profile text. Compared to the other scam / fake profiles this one looks great, but wouldn't hold my breath on it being the real deal.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6857661]She definitely reads the forum; I have first hand evidence. There is nothing wrong with that. She is smart and I like her. However, I am a little suprised she would consider coming back.

BAM.[/QUOTE]I agree Bam. She is a very smart woman. She and I went to dinner a few times and I always enjoyed my entire time with her. I hope she is doing well.

[QUOTE=KyMike53;6857743]I agree Bam. She is a very smart woman. She and I went to dinner a few times and I always enjoyed my entire time with her. I hope she is doing well.[/QUOTE]In the hobby when I got to know the providers off the clock was that the hardest thing to walk away from was the $.

I ran into one that I had lost track of working the counter in a little bakery and over coffee she told me the hardest thing about being out, having an SO along with a "normal" life was knowing.

That when they were tight on cash that she could fix it by just doing X number of appointments and not doing it.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;6856917][URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/dlqQeOEj5bn9eY8531NLVKmB[/URL][/QUOTE]The "psycho stalker GF" is a new twist to impress the work buddies that the girl won't leave you alone.

Its right up there with the one provider that offered "bar pickup" as an option, she came into a bar where the client and his buddies are at.

He goes over and works his "magic" on her and then tells the guys that he & she are headed back to her place.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;6858653]The "psycho stalker GF" is a new twist to impress the work buddies that the girl won't leave you alone.

Its right up there with the one provider that offered "bar pickup" as an option, she came into a bar where the client and his buddies are at.

He goes over and works his "magic" on her and then tells the guys that he & she are headed back to her place.[/QUOTE]Bar pickup would be an awesome way to show you buddies you get bang hot chick's without telling them you pay for it.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6857657]My apologies; I screwed up the links. Try the ones below.

I also got a number from her and it turns out we chatted a few weeks ago when she had a different profile using the name Mila. She wanted to meet in Xenia. She also wanted $400 and could not host. That's too high and too far away for me. We have never met. The number is voip and her pics have not led me to any PII. Can anyone help?

BAM.[/QUOTE]I connected with her on WYP and she took me off-line immediately. I have sent her several text messages but she has not responded to any of them. I think the profile below is her as well. Clifton is just a couple miles from Yellow Springs. I'm already seeing one hippie girl from YS, why not two? I just don't know about this one.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/VaoGNqxp5a46oNvJLX4YE23b[/URL]

Looks who's back. Likely limited time. If you can connect with her it's a sure thing. Not sure what her ask is today. In past it's varied from 250 to 400. Sometime doubles are available. Has put on some pounds but not horrible. When on SA she's usual on other SB sites and escort sites. Nice person. Def pro.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ac465229-a8f7-4ab6-b22a-6134db3b8ad7[/URL]

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[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a970f472-c334-4be4-a888-fe51d18ee111[/URL]

Anyone seen this one? She has been on awhile. In discussions.

Hey all, I know it's been answered before but how are you currently able to get a monthly membership without using your own cc? I tried with a couple different prepaid and green cards from wallgreens etc but it's not accepting the payment for me.

Anyone able to confirm what cards work? DM me or respond to this world be great.

Vanilla visa gift card works. Sometimes you have to wait 4-24 hours for the card activation to propagate through their data systems so that you can actually use it for payment. Don't try to input the cards information into SA too many times. They will block your card if it's declined after x number of payment attempts.

[QUOTE=SstevenEvets;6868073]Hey all, I know it's been answered before but how are you currently able to get a monthly membership without using your own cc? I tried with a couple different prepaid and green cards from wallgreens etc but it's not accepting the payment for me.

Anyone able to confirm what cards work? DM me or respond to this world be great.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SstevenEvets;6868073]Hey all, I know it's been answered before but how are you currently able to get a monthly membership without using your own cc? I tried with a couple different prepaid and green cards from wallgreens etc but it's not accepting the payment for me.

Anyone able to confirm what cards work? DM me or respond to this world be great.[/QUOTE]With a pre-payed, just have to have a "valid" address and zip, I use a extended stay hotel's address.

[QUOTE=SstevenEvets;6868073]Hey all, I know it's been answered before but how are you currently able to get a monthly membership without using your own cc? I tried with a couple different prepaid and green cards from wallgreens etc but it's not accepting the payment for me.

Anyone able to confirm what cards work? DM me or respond to this world be great.[/QUOTE]I use Netspend. After loading the card it is ready to use in 30-60 minutes. You do need to use I'd and address to get card. I use my work address and quarterly receive junk mail with no payment info. I also use it to make Hotwire hotel reservations.

[QUOTE=Bob1469;6846468]Has anyone seen Emily_1988 on SB? [URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/8dd085e979984275[/URL].

I would appreciate any information you might have.[/QUOTE]She can do a qv for 200 and can also host in the NKY area. 300 for 2 hours and multiple pops.

Pm for digits or more info.

I received a message on seeking from someone I want to talk with. Need to renew my membership; does anyone know if the discount codes from March still work? I've got a few in my inbox that might make it worth my dollars if I re-up. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Wielic;6873770]I received a message on seeking from someone I want to talk with. Need to renew my membership; does anyone know if the discount codes from March still work? I've got a few in my inbox that might make it worth my dollars if I re-up. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Just try them. They should work.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6873699]She can do a qv for 200 and can also host in the NKY area. 300 for 2 hours and multiple pops.

Pm for digits or more info.[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6873699]She can do a qv for 200 and can also host in the NKY area. 300 for 2 hours and multiple pops.

Pm for digits or more info.[/QUOTE]She is also on seeking. Takes you off site quickly. Moves fast, wants to arrange meetups or loses interest talking. Mulling it over, I do like the red ones.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5cd2138c-97dc-42c3-a6db-189f18ec9e58[/URL]

I've had excellent results with Seeking over the years but just for grins, I recently signed up on Secret Benefits, and I've been inundated with messages. I haven't responded to any of them due to the pay per message thing and pay to view extra pics. I almost get the feeling that the girls get points for getting guys to respond. I'm skeptical. So my questions to the group:

1. For those of you who have experience with both Seeking and SB, which do you find better?

2. What's the best way to pay on SB, do they allow anonymous credit cards? Suggestions?

Thanks!

CFG.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;6877220]I've had excellent results with Seeking over the years but just for grins, I recently signed up on Secret Benefits, and I've been inundated with messages. I haven't responded to any of them due to the pay per message thing and pay to view extra pics. I almost get the feeling that the girls get points for getting guys to respond. I'm skeptical. So my questions to the group:

1. For those of you who have experience with both Seeking and SB, which do you find better?

2. What's the best way to pay on SB, do they allow anonymous credit cards? Suggestions?

Thanks!

CFG.[/QUOTE]Scroll down this thread to see how to pay on Seeking. Not sure about SB, I've never tried it.

Maybe check the other thread "Alternate Sugar Sites: Secret Benefits, WYP, Etc. Not Seeking or SA". There may be some mention of that.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a593fbee-3d8b-45dc-affe-e33b9c214572[/URL]

Anyone have any information on Shaybae? Feel free to pm me.

[QUOTE=Goo3215;6877604][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a593fbee-3d8b-45dc-affe-e33b9c214572[/URL]

Anyone have any information on Shaybae? Feel free to pm me.[/QUOTE]She's almost [I]too[/I] hot to be real but for your sake I hope she is, although I think the 2 shots in the car (mostly the one with slight acne) is the "real" one she's still pretty attractive.

Being late 40's and a larger (not disgusting, just overweight) gentleman I worry about the early 20-somethings myself. Some days are good, some are bad, if you know what I mean so I'm concerned about unexpected performance issues. Also personally the Duck Lip thing (which seems to be a requirement for Millennials) is a turnoff, but her other assets would make up for that.

Happy hunting and I'd also love to hear any experiences.

I've been watching for quite a while but haven't pulled the trigger on anyone or any site. I understand SA is more reliable and has better results that SB, and WYP seems to be completely unreliable.

My question is how do you guys USE the connections. For example, how many of you actually go on dinner dates, walks on the beach, jet off to Cancun, Vegas, or anything and how many use the connections like upper-class escorts; just dropping in for a little hey-hey?

I'd be interested in the social aspect but know too many people around different parts of town so I'm worried about being seen and it getting back to the SO.

With an escort its easy: show up at the hotel, have a little chit-chat, and get what you came for. I'd like something a little more than that, maybe a little hanging out, but don't have bandwidth to have an entire side-girlfriend.

Just asking the experiences of you guys who've been at this for a while.

Do you usually meet for drinks / coffee the first time then move to your / her place? What's the ratio of 1st dates that just don't work out? I've been married 25+ years so my game is probably a little out of date.

[QUOTE=Goo3215;6877604][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a593fbee-3d8b-45dc-affe-e33b9c214572[/URL]

Anyone have any information on Shaybae? Feel free to pm me.[/QUOTE]She is on four different sites. I have chatted with her but disengaged when I got a very pro vibe. IIRC, she was good to go for $300 PPM. Let us know how it goes.

BAM.

I'm currently out of the game, but here goes.

I would usually try to meet for lunch at a moderately expensive restaurant to show seriousness of intent. Yes, I would go out to dinner, drinks, movies, etc. With the SBs that I liked. Sometimes it would just be DoorDash at their place. Also, just chilling and watching TV sometimes. It depended heavily. I also did gifts for the one or two SBs that I really liked. Think of it like being forever stuck in the early, casual phase of dating.

I'd say it's 50-50 as to whether a M-and-G would translate to an f-close. Over time, I got increasing picky with SBs and had fewer M-and-Gs. As for actual high quality SBs, I've only had 2 of those. Most are girls you smash a few times, then lose interest.

It seems the quality on SA is pretty low right now on average, and there are a ton of scammers on there. I advise taking absolutely NO bullshit from these girls. Don't pay for a M-and-G. Don't buy pictures. And don't accept flakiness. If they flake on the first meet, block and move on. If they get even slightly rude, block and move on. You'll get less action, but have infinitely less drama.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6877872]Just asking the experiences of you guys who've been at this for a while.

Do you usually meet for drinks / coffee the first time then move to your / her place? What's the ratio of 1st dates that just don't work out? I've been married 25+ years so my game is probably a little out of date.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BamBam;6877923]She is on four different sites. I have chatted with her but disengaged when I got a very pro vibe. IIRC, she was good to go for $300 PPM. Let us know how it goes.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Have seen her. Definitely pro attitude. I won't repeat. Reeked of smoke which is an absolute no fly zone for me. However, was good to go but couldn't suck dick well, and at least for me wouldn't catch. YMMV.

I've had the best success on SA and SD. My 2 longer term arrangements came from those sites. I've got a few SBs that turned friends and they don't like WYP, say they feel like its a scam and m&g rarely happen from that site. Maybe it's just them tho, idk.

I don't really care if I see people I know while out, never had anyone ask any questions when I did. Well once, I was asked if my sugar date was my daughter and I just rolled with it and we laughed about it after.

My current SB wants a lot of discretion. If we go out around town, it's usually some hole in the wall, low key bar where we can melt away into the background. Because of that we take day trips and some overnights to cities we can quickly drive too. She doesn't mind going out then, loves to get dressed up for me, and have fun. Otherwise we hang out at my house or her apartment, order doordash, watch a movie and just have a lot of fun.

As for connections, my longer term arrangements were more like SBF / SGF after a few months. We went out regularly for dinner, drinks, idk, throw axes or whatever crazy idea we came up with. We also went on vacations. I also surprise them with little gifts too. I found when I treat them right they are so much more appreciative to me. But this is just me and what I look for in a SR.

I always do a M&G initially for coffee or drinks, tell them its unpaid, that sorts out the girls that aren't interested and just after money. After the m&g, if it went well, I'll give them some cash. I'm picky, so my ratio is about 30% I m&g, I go out with again.

This is your SR, do as much as you want. And the best part of this is you don't really need a lot of game to have a lot of fun in the bowl.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6877872]I've been watching for quite a while but haven't pulled the trigger on anyone or any site. I understand SA is more reliable and has better results that SB, and WYP seems to be completely unreliable.

My question is how do you guys USE the connections. For example, how many of you actually go on dinner dates, walks on the beach, jet off to Cancun, Vegas, or anything and how many use the connections like upper-class escorts; just dropping in for a little hey-hey?

I'd be interested in the social aspect but know too many people around different parts of town so I'm worried about being seen and it getting back to the SO.

With an escort its easy: show up at the hotel, have a little chit-chat, and get what you came for. I'd like something a little more than that, maybe a little hanging out, but don't have bandwidth to have an entire side-girlfriend.

Just asking the experiences of you guys who've been at this for a while.

Do you usually meet for drinks / coffee the first time then move to your / her place? What's the ratio of 1st dates that just don't work out? I've been married 25+ years so my game is probably a little out of date.[/QUOTE]

I know this Cincinnati Sugar board but I'm going to be in the Erlanger / Florence area, the Kentucky board didn't have much info sugaring. What is the average ppm for that area?

Secret Benefits has a lot of bots / fake profiles to use up credits try Sugar Daddy Meets.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;6877220]I've had excellent results with Seeking over the years but just for grins, I recently signed up on Secret Benefits, and I've been inundated with messages. I haven't responded to any of them due to the pay per message thing and pay to view extra pics. I almost get the feeling that the girls get points for getting guys to respond. I'm skeptical. So my questions to the group:

1. For those of you who have experience with both Seeking and SB, which do you find better?

2. What's the best way to pay on SB, do they allow anonymous credit cards? Suggestions?

Thanks!

CFG.[/QUOTE]

Its really all the same place. Just a city with a river running through it that happens to have different state names on either side. Mostly anything on this board pertains to both sides of the river.

[QUOTE=BumbaCloth;6879320]I know this Cincinnati Sugar board but I'm going to be in the Erlanger / Florence area, the Kentucky board didn't have much info sugaring. What is the average ppm for that area?[/QUOTE]

Thanks Ginzo666 and MiscWrite and everyone who offers beginners advice.

Morggaann513 told me it was 300 for a half hour dream and that if I couldn't afford it, "byyyeeee. ".

Who has geeked these bitches' heads up. She's a solid 3. 5 at best.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e461df45-7e8d-49e6-be00-4514a2adebef[/URL]

ArtisticLor is a 46-year-old woman looking for the love of her life. This is what happened in February 2022, when Brandon Wade rebranded the site, and Seeking collided with eHarmony:

"In my quest for love, I'm not just looking for a partner, but a best friend. Someone who's intelligent, has a wicked sense of humor, and understands that my love language is a unique mix of affectionate teasing and deep conversations. I believe in a connection that's intellectually stimulating and emotionally fulfilling. A bond where we can share both laughter and heartfelt moments. ".

She adds:

"I'm NOT online to serial date, meet random dudes to kick-it, make new Hang-Out buddies. I'm honestly here to utilize the Site to potentially allow me to meet my Best friend, my love, my forever, my King".

Any of you guys want to apply for her idea of kingship?

I *don't* think this woman is ill-intentioned or a scammer. I believe she's real. But what is she doing on a site that started as a place for college girls to pick up extra cash from horny older guys?

That's the problem with the site's new (post-Feb 2022) slogan: "Date up". Dating up is what still-single and recently divorced middle-aged women are all looking for. That's why there are so many of them on the site nowadays. They're all chasing that same dream: a single (but marriage-minded) 6'3" 45-year-old stockbroker who "is as comfortable in a pair of jeans as he is in a tux".

Hers is an eHarmony profile, if ever there was one.

Nobody wins here. She has pretty close to zero chance of finding what she's looking for, talking to guys like us.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6877872]I've been watching for quite a while but haven't pulled the trigger on anyone or any site. I understand SA is more reliable and has better results that SB, and WYP seems to be completely unreliable.

My question is how do you guys USE the connections. For example, how many of you actually go on dinner dates, walks on the beach, jet off to Cancun, Vegas, or anything and how many use the connections like upper-class escorts; just dropping in for a little hey-hey?

I'd be interested in the social aspect but know too many people around different parts of town so I'm worried about being seen and it getting back to the SO.

With an escort its easy: show up at the hotel, have a little chit-chat, and get what you came for. I'd like something a little more than that, maybe a little hanging out, but don't have bandwidth to have an entire side-girlfriend.

Just asking the experiences of you guys who've been at this for a while.

Do you usually meet for drinks / coffee the first time then move to your / her place? What's the ratio of 1st dates that just don't work out? I've been married 25+ years so my game is probably a little out of date.[/QUOTE]Probably not breaking any new ground and trying not to be redundant with what others have advised, but I give them my burner number and try to get theirs to get off SA as soon as possible. Never, ever mention PPM or anything monetary or you'll get suspended / banned.

I usually defer to them for meet and greets. I let them choose whether they want to meet for coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, etc. I've never had anyone immediately want to go to Jeff Ruby's or any other high end place at first. I let them choose the public meeting space for their comfort.

I usually only discuss details in person, not via text. Even with burner phones, I try to avoid anything that may be incriminating should I happen to encounter a LEO. But I haven't had that happen yet.

My preferred age range is 18 to mid 20's, so it may be their first time trying this so they may be initially hesitant too.

The success varies. I've had some regulars who didn't ask for much beyond taking them out to dinner before going back to my house, or money for the babysitter (though I prefer someone with no children to avoid the issue). Some work lesser paying jobs and need help with bills, hair, nails and the like. Some regulars I would take for an extended weekend out of town like a mini vacation, which they appreciate instead of the same routine.

Hope this helps. Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6877872]I've been watching for quite a while but haven't pulled the trigger on anyone or any site. I understand SA is more reliable and has better results that SB, and WYP seems to be completely unreliable.

My question is how do you guys USE the connections. For example, how many of you actually go on dinner dates, walks on the beach, jet off to Cancun, Vegas, or anything and how many use the connections like upper-class escorts; just dropping in for a little hey-hey?

I'd be interested in the social aspect but know too many people around different parts of town so I'm worried about being seen and it getting back to the SO.

With an escort its easy: show up at the hotel, have a little chit-chat, and get what you came for. I'd like something a little more than that, maybe a little hanging out, but don't have bandwidth to have an entire side-girlfriend.

Just asking the experiences of you guys who've been at this for a while.



Do you usually meet for drinks / coffee the first time then move to your / her place? What's the ratio of 1st dates that just don't work out? I've been married 25+ years so my game is probably a little out of date.[/QUOTE]When I first started on Seeking about 8 years ago, I would invite them to dinner first, then to my place. Sometimes the same night, sometimes at a later date. The fourth girl I met, when I drove her to the restaurant she said "I'm not really hungry, let's just go to your place". Since then, I start with inviting them to my place and not one has said "No. Let's meet for dinner first. ".

She might be a touch older than 46 as well.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6882406][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e461df45-7e8d-49e6-be00-4514a2adebef[/URL]

ArtisticLor is a 46-year-old woman looking for the love of her life. This is what happened in February 2022, when Brandon Wade rebranded the site, and Seeking collided with eHarmony:

"In my quest for love, I'm not just looking for a partner, but a best friend. Someone who's intelligent, has a wicked sense of humor, and understands that my love language is a unique mix of affectionate teasing and deep conversations. I believe in a connection that's intellectually stimulating and emotionally fulfilling. A bond where we can share both laughter and heartfelt moments. ".

She adds:

"I'm NOT online to serial date, meet random dudes to kick-it, make new Hang-Out buddies. I'm honestly here to utilize the Site to potentially allow me to meet my Best friend, my love, my forever, my King".

Any of you guys want to apply for her idea of kingship?

I *don't* think this woman is ill-intentioned or a scammer. I believe she's real. But what is she doing on a site that started as a place for college girls to pick up extra cash from horny older guys?

That's the problem with the site's new (post-Feb 2022) slogan: "Date up". Dating up is what still-single and recently divorced middle-aged women are all looking for. That's why there are so many of them on the site nowadays. They're all chasing that same dream: a single (but marriage-minded) 6'3" 45-year-old stockbroker who "is as comfortable in a pair of jeans as he is in a tux".

Hers is an eHarmony profile, if ever there was one.

Nobody wins here. She has pretty close to zero chance of finding what she's looking for, talking to guys like us.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6882406][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e461df45-7e8d-49e6-be00-4514a2adebef[/URL]

I *don't* think this woman is ill-intentioned or a scammer. I believe she's real. But what is she doing on a site that started as a place for college girls to pick up extra cash from horny older guys?

That's the problem with the site's new (post-Feb 2022) slogan: "Date up". Dating up is what still-single and recently divorced middle-aged women are all looking for. That's why there are so many of them on the site nowadays. They're all chasing that same dream: a single (but marriage-minded) 6'3" 45-year-old stockbroker who "is as comfortable in a pair of jeans as he is in a tux".

Hers is an eHarmony profile, if ever there was one.
[/QUOTE]She is real but not local. The pictures are of an aging Dutch IG influencer.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/dipanario_fenice/[/URL]

Seems an odd way to work the scam whatever it is.

BAM