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[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7082018]You tell us, once you start using your credits up.[/QUOTE]Hell figure out after the fiftieth message saying " hey " dropping 10 credits and then ghost. SB is worse than SA. Total scam IMO. Both sites are basically a joke at this point. Normies.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;7082304]Hell figure out after the fiftieth message saying " hey " dropping 10 credits and then ghost. SB is worse than SA. Total scam IMO. Both sites are basically a joke at this point. Normies.[/QUOTE]I recently decided to try it out just to mix it up and you're right the 10 credits for a hey is lame. But even lamer is the 10 credits to see private photos LOL. Both sites are pretty rough these days.
[QUOTE=AlanHeckle;7082412]I recently decided to try it out just to mix it up and you're right the 10 credits for a hey is lame. But even lamer is the 10 credits to see private photos LOL. Both sites are pretty rough these days.[/QUOTE]But for only 10 MORE credits you can boost that message to make sure she ignores you! These women have every incentive to simply try and guck us out of our cash! Think about it! They want us cause they need sex? LOL the 20% of Chads out there are fucking them all including the fat ugly ones (why they also they think they are queens! So they will try anything to get the money, gobble cock at the club! However they will get paid (over that is) by thirsty men. SB knows this, so there we go! I'm beginning to think the entire thing is a waste of time. I also believe it's cultural as todays young woman is a total disaster! I simply don't see value in paying a woman over 32/33 for her used womb (although I have and was not impressed). They think it's a classic but it's used babe. 18-21 is a little better but hard to deal with. But I'm not looking for a date to the Met to discuss art LOL. My bros are for that!! There is one site that's 1 k for 90 day membership (forget the name) but I'd guess the quality in the PMW is just as. Well let's say the same. Only way out is to sit on our wallets. We're outnumbered I'm afraid. Weak men bring hard times. Video killed the radio star.
Peace.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7082176]Three paid meetups does seem excessive.
For the record, I never explicitly say that I will compensate anyone for an M&G, but if we hit it off and are comfortable I might gift them 50 or 100. If they ask for more or get huffy about it I just move on. There's always more girls on those sites.
There was one stunning asian chick on SA back in the day (I verified her pictures and they were legit, don't ask my how) who wanted 400 for a "non sexual meetup" and 800 for fucking. The hitch was you had to do two of the 400 visits before she'd even consider an 800. I blocked her and moved on. She was absolutely delicious though.[/QUOTE]I won't pay for a meet and greet. I'm buying drinks (never dinner) any darn way. I did slip a benji in my last ones panties at the end of the M&G date (while smooching) she didn't ask (she had some shrubs down there haha). I have been turned down for not agreeing to pay for m&g. Look no woman is worth cash for me listening to the word " like " every 15 seconds! Please! Again, weak men bring hard times! The more we refuse the less this crap will happen. They are getting a free appetizer and I drink already! Damn!
There is no longer a spot to put a discount code in on SA, you have to wait until they give you an offer. I am currently at 20% when 33% was always my go to.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7082168]Kat is, in fact, a lesbian. Had to pay a friend back via Venmo and I realized that's how I paid her and found her government name (not "Kat") and looked her up on social media. She is a masculine leaning lesbian with possibly a current girlfriend not quite sure as the last pic of them together is in 2023. She has some rougher pics of her looking more masculine but then she has some pretty decent pics of her dolled up too which she looks absolutely fuckable. Looks like she lost quite a bit of wait over the past 10-15 years too. She's thin now though.
I don't know, that makes the experience even better to me LOL. I always love a lesbian so desperate, they decide to take dick to get what they need. But that's just me.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]That is so damn awesome dude! And it likely explains some stuff, like why she was worried about her roommate.
[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7082470]There is no longer a spot to put a discount code in on SA, you have to wait until they give you an offer. I am currently at 20% when 33% was always my go to.[/QUOTE]Tried upgrading on SA with a Visa Vanilla gift card and was declined. Is there a better card to use? Read on another post that SA will no longer accept visa vanilla gift cards. Just seeing what pre-paid card works the best.
Well, I'm fine with gifting (very!) modestly for M&Gs. And I often take them to dinner if the timing works out. You learn a lot about a girl if you take them to a nice restaurant -- and most of 'them have never been to anyplace really nice.
Some of them get obviously weirded out by it or just as obviously don't know how to behave in that situation. Which can be fun to watch and at least for me tells me a lot about whether I'll want to fuck them and put up with their shit. Also, I've had several basically throw themselves at me after taking them someplace nicer than anybody had ever taken them before.
In the worst case I got to have a nice dinner with a pretty girl. Win win and no biggie if it doesn't turn into fucking her later that night. Lots of other girls out there. And also from a practical standpoint at least for me if a hot girl can behave properly in a nice restaurant and not make an ass out of herself in the process she can be useful to me even if I don't want to fuck her.
You'd be shocked how few of them actually can manage it.
First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]If you think it's good than it's good. If she's slamming hot, maybe. If she's your typical PNW pudge than no for me.
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]On SA if she wants more than 500 it's just a girl with GPS and not worth it.
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Typical first timer experience is guys get FOMO and will agree to anything. I'm assuming you didn't negotiate at all and she will want you to pay her as soon as you meet in person. And it won't go for that long. She's knows she will get $700 for 20-40 minutes of you pumping into her and however long before and after dealing with awkward attempts at conversation, LOL.
Seriously, though. Make sure you're vetting her as best you can. A lot of women on there that are excellent communicators are manipulative and just selling an experience. Make sure you're getting what you want from it. It's YOUR cash they want, not the other way around. Remember they've fucked plenty of guys for zero dollars before, don't buy into the GPS.
All my arrangements have been 500 for half day or even overnight where we have fun (a couple of finishes) and dinner at evening and she also takes care of morning wood before we go out for breakfast.
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MyNickname;7084649]All my arrangements have been 500 for half day or even overnight where we have fun (a couple of finishes) and dinner at evening and she also takes care of morning wood before we go out for breakfast.[/QUOTE]You sounds just like my buddy in Vegas. He keeps a SB on him for a year at a time. Been with her for more than a year. He does the same, breakfast lunch and dinner. They go different places and all kinds of things. I joke with him every now and then that he's in a relationship and "when's the wedding? But I know he only kicks her back $300 at a time and takes care of everything they do.
It's a good setup if you got the initial investment and patience for it. I imagine hanging out with them gets less expensive even but I just got stand these women past post-nut clarity. "Get the fuck on!" Is my equivalent to immediately closing all of my PH windows in disgust on my laptop after I'm done.
It all boils down to the time you get out of it. If she is asking for 700 for an hour of play or less, hell no it's not worth it. If she's talking half-full day of hanging out and playing, it gets a bit more palatable.
So-Crates.
Excellent advice, thanks. I'll browse around a bit.
If anyone is experienced with this, appreciate it if we can have a chat to discuss dos / don'ts. My DM is open.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7084670]You sounds just like my buddy in Vegas. He keeps a SB on him for a year at a time. Been with her for more than a year. He does the same, breakfast lunch and dinner. They go different places and all kinds of things. I joke with him every now and then that he's in a relationship and "when's the wedding? But I know he only kicks her back $300 at a time and takes care of everything they do.
It's a good setup if you got the initial investment and patience for it. I imagine hanging out with them gets less expensive even but I just got stand these women past post-nut clarity. "Get the fuck on!" Is my equivalent to immediately closing all of my PH windows in disgust on my laptop after I'm done.
It all boils down to the time you get out of it. If she is asking for 700 for an hour of play or less, hell no it's not worth it. If she's talking half-full day of hanging out and playing, it gets a bit more palatable.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Too pricey. My latest addition is a 28 Ukranian college graduate, gorgeous. 4 hrs of fucking for 400. Every now and then I take her to a good restaurant before the fuckfest
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Aka the guys giving advice to show their work! Haha.
One may set the price but the other sets the terms! There's shit at 1 k and 300. Let us know how it goes.
It comes down to give time to my body to recharge and shoot again. I'm no spring chicken. When I was younger I was able to do 3 shots in an hour.
Also, women give better sex when you let them feel is not so transactional and more like between friends.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7084670]You sounds just like my buddy in Vegas. He keeps a SB on him for a year at a time. Been with her for more than a year. He does the same, breakfast lunch and dinner. They go different places and all kinds of things. I joke with him every now and then that he's in a relationship and "when's the wedding? But I know he only kicks her back $300 at a time and takes care of everything they do.
It's a good setup if you got the initial investment and patience for it. I imagine hanging out with them gets less expensive even but I just got stand these women past post-nut clarity. "Get the fuck on!" Is my equivalent to immediately closing all of my PH windows in disgust on my laptop after I'm done.
It all boils down to the time you get out of it. If she is asking for 700 for an hour of play or less, hell no it's not worth it. If she's talking half-full day of hanging out and playing, it gets a bit more palatable.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]
In general if you are just looking for a warm hole to deposit your seed into the sugar world isn't either cost or time efficient.
On the other hand if you are looking for a total freak who you can also hang out with and watch netflix or go out for drinks or get stoned or go on a road trip with your best option and very best return on investment is the sugar bowl.
My own experience is that the very best deals and options are divorced or separated moms who have a job but are both lonely and also a bit tight on money. For me at least the very best have been over 25 and sometimes over 35. Second best are juniors or seniors in college.
Younger girls are inexperienced and naive and much more likely to have serious GPS, obnoxious entitlement, and be total flakes.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7085636]In general if you are just looking for a warm hole to deposit your seed into the sugar world isn't either cost or time efficient.
On the other hand if you are looking for a total freak who you can also hang out with and watch netflix or go out for drinks or get stoned or go on a road trip with your best option and very best return on investment is the sugar bowl.
My own experience is that the very best deals and options are divorced or separated moms who have a job but are both lonely and also a bit tight on money. For me at least the very best have been over 25 and sometimes over 35. Second best are juniors or seniors in college.
Younger girls are inexperienced and naive and much more likely to have serious GPS, obnoxious entitlement, and be total flakes.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself. Divorced late 30's to early / mid 40's are my bread and butter. Although I just found one on SA who is a college student (dropped her off at her dorm a couple nights ago) and she is new to the site so there are hidden gems but you really can't go wrong with the older divorced tight on cash demographic.
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7085636]On the other hand if you are looking for a total freak who you can also hang out with and watch netflix or go out for drinks or get stoned or go on a road trip with your best option and very best return on investment is the sugar bowl.[/QUOTE]Mind to share your filtering and pipelining strategy? Do you chat a bit over in-app text or no? Do you do a video / phone call or no? Meet and greet only or one of the calls, etc?
I've been out of the SB space for a bit and forgot how f*ing annoying these money grubbing GPS hoes are. So many day they want connection but then do one word replies, don't ask me questions back, or go straight to what are you looking for as if I don't have 80% of the text on my profile dedicated to that.
Related, I date civvy moms easily so they aren't interesting to me.
[QUOTE=Surplice;7085727]Mind to share your filtering and pipelining strategy? Do you chat a bit over in-app text or no? Do you do a video / phone call or no? Meet and greet only or one of the calls, etc?
...[/QUOTE]Mostly you need to be willing to do the work and take the time.
That means usually we chat on the app, over text, have a phone call or zoom call or two, and do a couple of meet and greets. I ask a lot of questions about them and encourage them to talk about themselves enough to get a sense of what they are about. Sometimes I ask the same questions a couple of different times or in different ways to see if it all fits together. And if I start to see red flags or get a feeling that it won't work out I will just move on and not waste anybody's time.
Saw this one a couple years ago, fun time but she lived a little too far away so I didn't make it long term. Took her to dinner and fucked her the same night. Decent head and bbds.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5fda3f9f-0834-4301-882f-255041002130[/URL]
SolOnebae.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a3d561a9-ac52-47ee-92a8-a13dcfafd95c[/URL]
Fake profile picture.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/AnastasiaTsilimpiouOfficialPage/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1082528393242260&set=a.295586981936409[/URL]
Girlnextdoorx.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/664965db-a5f3-418c-836b-431dae882b75[/URL]
1 K PPM.
Missy.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/068b2608-ae65-484c-acae-2ef2d1b257dc[/URL]
Picture seller.
Kayla.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd97767e-0a62-4c76-8395-e8a067cdf4cb[/URL]
Wanted to have her bills and rent taken care of.
[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.
Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Also in my experience. Things tend to work way better with girls that do no not talk arrangement amount before hand.
I'm looking for a reliable wingman to occasionally tag team dumb 20 yos off seeking. Must be 40+ and I strongly prefer a tech bro because non-tech guys are too cheap for this hobby. Put those stock options and shares to good use. LOL. Msg me if interested but don't waste my time or yours.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea46ba0c-0926-442f-958b-fb3749b2dc2b[/URL]
This one wants 300 for an hour. This is the discounted rate if you meetup 2 times in a week. Hmmmm. Moving on.
She's real from what I can tell. I can almost hear the Ebonics screeching from this one by the pics. I hit her up because she looks curvy but no serious interest so I'm good with letting her push on. Lives on an air mattress (did not see her; she showed me a pic) in her new apartment in west Seattle. Enjoy fellas.
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7090052][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea46ba0c-0926-442f-958b-fb3749b2dc2b[/URL]
This one wants 300 for an hour. This is the discounted rate if you meetup 2 times in a week. Hmmmm. Moving on.
She's real from what I can tell. I can almost hear the Ebonics screeching from this one by the pics. I hit her up because she looks curvy but no serious interest so I'm good with letting her push on. Lives on an air mattress (did not see her; she showed me a pic) in her new apartment in west Seattle. Enjoy fellas.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]That's either a very hard mileage 28 or she's really 33-35. I also get the sense that half an hour would be spent listening to her talk about 5 G LOL.
[QUOTE=Merovingian2;7088709]I'm looking for a reliable wingman to occasionally tag team dumb 20 yos off seeking. Must be 40+ and I strongly prefer a tech bro because non-tech guys are too cheap for this hobby. Put those stock options and shares to good use. LOL. Msg me if interested but don't waste my time or yours.[/QUOTE]You're a douche for thinking only tech guys have hobby money.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7090052][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea46ba0c-0926-442f-958b-fb3749b2dc2b[/URL]
This one wants 300 for an hour. This is the discounted rate if you meetup 2 times in a week. Hmmmm. Moving on.
She's real from what I can tell. I can almost hear the Ebonics screeching from this one by the pics. I hit her up because she looks curvy but no serious interest so I'm good with letting her push on. Lives on an air mattress (did not see her; she showed me a pic) in her new apartment in west Seattle. Enjoy fellas.
So-Crates.[/QUOTE]Amount by the hour?
Next.
[QUOTE=DelToro;7091109]Amount by the hour?
Next.[/QUOTE]Don't know. I didn't stick around long enough to find out. When I laughed at her quote, she laughed at me laughing at her quote and that was the end of the discussion.
Real of fake?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/edaffdcd-557e-4101-9c87-2c6c03ff594c[/URL]
Woman or TS? You never know, right?
[QUOTE=Yamaha2000;7091147]Real of fake?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/edaffdcd-557e-4101-9c87-2c6c03ff594c[/URL]
Woman or TS? You never know, right?[/QUOTE]Seems real, list herself as woman, your trans comment is strange, if you think she looks masculine, why pursue?
[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7091155]Seems real, list herself as woman, your trans comment is strange, if you think she looks masculine, why pursue?[/QUOTE]Just a preference. I'm not into trans. If a real girl looks a bit masculine but still hot, I'm fine with that.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7091125]Don't know. I didn't stick around long enough to find out. When I laughed at her quote, she laughed at me laughing at her quote and that was the end of the discussion.[/QUOTE]What I meant is that in the moment she mentions that the arrangement is by the hour is when you know you need to move on.
[QUOTE=Yamaha2000;7091147]Real of fake?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/edaffdcd-557e-4101-9c87-2c6c03ff594c[/URL]
Woman or TS? You never know, right?[/QUOTE]Either way, she has GPS, do not remember the details, I just remember her expectations were laughable.
[QUOTE=DelToro;7091455]What I meant is that in the moment she mentions that the arrangement is by the hour is when you know you need to move on.[/QUOTE]Read that back and got it after the fact. And you are absolutely correct! In the wise words of Junior in Platoon, "Throw that yolk off!
So-Crates.
Lacy.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/58a00d00-f0ca-413d-8918-93e23df9bee5[/URL]
The worst type of scammer as it also wastes time.
Chatted a bit, no real red flags other than "she" is very good looking.
Made plans to meet. Half an hr before meeting time requested money for the nanny.
I of course needed to clear up my calendar to meet her. Complete waste of time and effort.
GPS: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c1cff6a-dbb4-454f-9858-d4fcf125d34c[/URL].
Wants $900 ppm.
Paid M&G: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1c1eb8e6-3655-418a-9ab9-8016b34c8c1b[/URL].
Said she was going to be in town this weekend, made plans for happy hour, this morning requested "small gift or giftcard" to ensure she doesn't waste money coming for a M&G, then wants money for the M&G but says nothing happens on the first date. Hard pass.
Pic seller: can't link because she blocked me when I declined to pay for naughty pictures, but name was Phoebe. Went to text right away, discussed ppm and asked what I was into sexually, then asked me to Venmo her for dirty pictures. Wants to sell pictures before meeting, but good luck meeting once "she" has your money. Hard pass!
Decent time: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48b5260d-7212-43f0-90bb-35fe05d9ea78[/URL].
Met up with her a few months back, nice enough girl but didn't click so won't repeat. Met for lunch before setting up ppm, asks for $600 for the evening and $800 overnight. Don't usually go that high but she's pretty so I thought what the hell. Opted for the evening, spent a few hours with her, BBBJ, everything else covered. Skinny, nice body, pretty face, great tits. A little buttcrack hair that strangely turned me off. Said she could host after the first meet. Maybe one of you guys will enjoy her more!
[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;7090905]You're a douche for thinking only tech guys have hobby money.[/QUOTE]Now we know where GPS is coming from. I knew someone was kissing these girls butts. I knew there was a good reason to leave the tech areas! Haha.