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Sky is pretty much the best bet now that the AMPs are pretty much gone. Sunshine is actually the infamous Sue from Sakura a couple of years back except she now looks much better with straight hair. Cindy's a girl from Los Angeles and she is pretty much the quality we used to get in DC before Black Wednesday. There's also Angel Exotics which have been rotating Korean girls in lately but they use fake pictures so it's hard to tell what you're going to get.
What happened here is pretty obvious to me, a participant in the scene for a few years. The big bust that was called Black Wednesday, as I recall, stemmed from a case that started in New York City with some cops taking bribes, which led to wiretaps and hooking into the Korean taxis who ferried the girls around to the different AMPs up and down the east coast. The biggest hit the DC AMP community suffered was in that raid. Local law enforcement tagged along. That was the biggest hit and then the others were picked off one-by-one by local LE.
My belief is that the push was the so-called human trafficking angle and the feds coordinated it and, for all we know, there was some federal money sprinkled around to set up a local task force to go after these places. There were rumors in the AMP community that something was coming down. I had friends in that world, but as a non-Korean what I got was second hand. That is a very closed world. Some of us got some glimpses of it, but never the whole picture.
Each local area may have their own crusader to take individual action, as well. Dallas had a mayor who wanted to shut down the scene down there that had really gotten out of hand. Doug Duncan, I suppose, shut the scene down in Montgomery County. That was long before I could spell AMP. Others around the country have done the same thing in their community.
If a place is notorious, there will be complaints. I think the impetus here was the feds, as I have said before. There had always been raids, and they were periodic, but it was business as usual in short order afterwards. It was too good to last, really. We got spoiled. Some of us got too smug and shared too much information publicly. Search back some time and all the data is here, including links to public documents of the investigation. Most of the old timers who knew this have gone pretty silent. Maybe we should publish a DC AMP wiki. LoveLOS could be the principle author.
Will it come back? I have no idea, but if there is money to be made at a reasonable risk, I suspect it will.
[QUOTE=LoveLOS][B]Welcome Back, Spearsman[/B]
I only wish DC were in better health for your return.
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Thanks for the shout-out, will PM you in advance next time I'm heading to DC. Yes, it's a shame that so much of the DC scene has disappeared recently. Might be time to check out Lique :D
Although I was far, far away for most of the last three years, I read the DC board fairly regularly. The "Black Wednesday" when several AMPs in DC were raided/shut down took place not long after a similar raid in Waterbury, Connecticut, when all 10 AMPs in town were simultaneously raided by LEO. The excuse was the "human trafficking" angle, and since DC AMPs were drawing from the same Korean talent pool (based in Queens) as the CT AMPs, it was only a matter of time before LEO would pay attention to the DC AMPs.
Yes, human trafficking is a serious problem world-wide, and it's terrible when teenage girls are kidnapped/tricked into working as prostitutes. However, I personally think that human trafficking is a bunch of bull when it comes to the East Coast AMP scene - most of the Korean girls I've run into at these AMPs are in their late 30s/early 40s (or older) and certainly didn't act as if they were working in AMPs against their will.
[QUOTE=Solitaire One]Sky is pretty much the best bet now that the AMPs are pretty much gone. Sunshine is actually the infamous Sue from Sakura a couple of years back except she now looks much better with straight hair. Cindy's a girl from Los Angeles and she is pretty much the quality we used to get in DC before Black Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Sunshine's service was off the charts, as was Windy, who is now Jin. Is Cindy of the same level?
I've been trying to see Cindy but looks like they are closed until the weekend.
I was going to express my opinion on what has happened to the DC scene, but Friendly1 already did so, and made much the same comments that I would have made, so I will simply agree with him. I guess we will just have to see what happens after the election. But frankly, I don't thinnk things will ever return to the situation that we had in the 90s. I think things will be more expensive for much less quality of service, both in terms of the girls and the service they provide. The days of spending time with the likes of Candy or Lily at Downtown for $160 total are, I'm afraid, a distant memory.
[QUOTE=Chaz]I was going to express my opinion on what has happened to the DC scene, but Friendly1 already did so, and made much the same comments that I would have made, so I will simply agree with him. I guess we will just have to see what happens after the election. But frankly, I don't thinnk things will ever return to the situation that we had in the 90s. I think things will be more expensive for much less quality of service, both in terms of the girls and the service they provide. The days of spending time with the likes of Candy or Lily at Downtown for $160 total are, I'm afraid, a distant memory.[/QUOTE]Mongering minds think alike? I think they're getting ready for the inauguration. I don't get downtown often, but I swear there seems to be more and more people each time. Maybe by starting so early they hope to keep things quieted down well after? I'm padding the fun fund in hopes that things are in full (quiet) swing late spring/summer.
And yeah, I think the 160 days are over hello 180's and 200's, but the quality stays the same, might actually go up.
[QUOTE=Chaz] I guess we will just have to see what happens after the election. [/QUOTE]
Nov. 17th is also a key date - Korea (and a few other countries) are eligible for the Visa Waiver program effective then.
Does any one have a report obut this place?
[QUOTE=Harry Plopper]For those of you that frequent the DC area.....Do you think after the election things will loosen up?
Just wondering. I remember just a few years back when things were alot better.[/QUOTE]
If you RTFF in other major cities in the past years, major AMP and SW cleanups are always highest during election-ramp-up period. And in all of the major cities that had the cleanups, they never returned or the return is very, very, very slow after post-election. San Francisco got hit during election year back in 2000, and now, 8 years later, the AMPS are very, very, very slowly reappearing, but not the same as it use to be. And SWs are completely wiped out. Dallas also got hit during that same election year. While Dallas isn't as big on AMPs as other cities, the SWs were just about completely wipe off. And, today, the SW scenes are not as prevalent as they use to be.
So, IMO, the AMPs may very, very, very slowly reappear, and those that do appear soon, the service will not be the same.
Thanks for the info. I plan on staying away from DC for a while. Y'all have fun
I've been very busy in CR and haven't looked here for a couple months. Yes, I went back and RTFF but sounds like no one really knows what happened. Raids? bad economy? we overpaid? the Feds? but if so where is the news on this?
[QUOTE=Sleeping Bag]If you RTFF in other major cities in the past years, major AMP and SW cleanups are always highest during election-ramp-up period. And in all of the major cities that had the cleanups, they never returned or the return is very, very, very slow after post-election. San Francisco got hit during election year back in 2000, and now, 8 years later, the AMPS are very, very, very slowly reappearing, but not the same as it use to be. And SWs are completely wiped out. Dallas also got hit during that same election year. While Dallas isn't as big on AMPs as other cities, the SWs were just about completely wipe off. And, today, the SW scenes are not as prevalent as they use to be.
So, IMO, the AMPs may very, very, very slowly reappear, and those that do appear soon, the service will not be the same.[/QUOTE]I second the very, very very slowly thing. I've been too busy to have fun lately but hopefully later this month or next month I can venture out. The end of the year is hell sometimes. :)
Cabbie!
[QUOTE=Junky11]I've been very busy in CR and haven't looked here for a couple months. Yes, I went back and RTFF but sounds like no one really knows what happened. Raids? bad economy? we overpaid? the Feds? but if so where is the news on this?[/QUOTE][Color=DarkRed]The fact that there haven't been many (any?) highly-publicized raids of DC's AMPs suggests that, perhaps, this is more of a temporary thing at a [u]local[/u] rather than a national level.
True, the AMPs have closed down for the while. but I suspect that, DC being what it is (and DC's government being what it is, namely a microcosm of a typical African nation that's rife with corruption and croneyism), this is just a case of the AMPs having been given an enforced sabatical until the election season is done with. It just [u]wouldn't[/u] be good for what's left of DC's public image if the massage parlours were operating at full tilt boogey while "the Messiah" is being sworn in. (Also, while Clinton is no longer in town, the image of a steady stream of Democrats making pilgrimages to any of the local AMPs during Inaugural Week would be unseemly, even for Democrats.)
So, look for the AMPs to make a reappearance, in new locations, after the January festivities are done with and all attention is focused again on Capitol Hill during the confirmation "hearings" for all the new staff positions. Of course, this being DC, members of the local Donut Brigades will have had to have been given the appropriate "licensing fee" (read: bribe or protection money). But, this being DC, that shouldn't be a burdensome cost for any of the AMPs. After all, the AMPs may be dealing with corrupt folks, but too much of DC is populated with cut-rate corrupt folks. As with everything DC, the bribery and corruption is done at a second-class level.
Wait for mid-February, or possibly the arrival of Spring and the "Cherry Blossoms."
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you can still get anything you want. If you expand your territory from NoVa to Charm City, it is still out there.
If you act right, if you get known by a place or a specific provider, and if you are willing to pay a reasonable price, it is there.
I believe experienced hobbyists know this. For obvious reasons, you can't put anything important on the board right now, it is too dangerous and it is reckless.
As for me, please don't ask, I won't tell, but go out there and look.