Sugarbabies?

I started my mongering career in the SW arena but the quality is extremely low (unless you happen across Lolo in UPH) and the findings are very hit-or-miss. I enjoy the hunt but with Carthage being buster (except for Crazy Carthage Katie), CW being barren (seriously, the only reason I go there any more is to pass through to MCM), MCM dwindling BADLY (even lacking the usual creepy-crawlys as much), and even UPH not as reliable as it once was, I'm seriously tired of 2 hr round trips (starting in Roselawn, Carthage, CW, MCM, UPH, then back again. Occasionally hitting WH but I've NEVER seen anything there) and 1/4 tank of gas to find what I can get from Katie BTOTB for $ in a private and safe location. I mean, there ARE times SWs are out but it's been VERY dry lately.

I've tried a few providers from LC and STG with limited success; again only Katie was worth a repeat (although I'd like to revisit Hanna Sweetz when she is able to incall again as our first and only visit was cut short for lack of a cover). Candy (haven't tried, looks pretty) and Kay (dead fish) might work in a pinch, Anna in KY was awkward, and Saffy was sweet but TOO alt / spinner for me. I do appreciate the direct nature of those sites but sometimes look for something classier than "come get this hot twat".

As such, I've been peering into the bowl but keep seeing shit like "my perfect first date is to walk on the beach with champaign and save a turtle" or "looking for someone to go out on dinner dates and engage my mind while we live-laugh-love and travel to Paraguay for an adventurous weekend hiking then ending with a perfect evening walk on the beach with champaign and saving turtles". I don't care that you like drinking tea and putting together puzzles or going to movies. My favorites end with "take care of me and I'll take care of you" or "tell your wife you're supporting a good cause".

Do these girls really believe this tripe they're writing or that we're looking for a companion to spend our money on saving a goddamn turtle? Or am I missing some coded messages?

I'm not cheap, but I hesitate to spend credits for pics or to communicate with someone whose profile mentions knitting and enjoying fine wine, however I see posts here where guys take the plunge and report on success on the first meet.

Provider sites are comfortable in that when you ping them they know why and usually their first response is $/$.5/$$ Now, part of what interests me in the sugarbowl IS the additional companionship (dinner, hit the bar) but lets be honest in how I expect the date to end. I'm also interested in a regular thing with a decent girl (again, better than "Come smash this sloppy wet pussah! But I would like a PPM thing with regularity.

WYP seems like it would be fairly direct (I mean, "price" is in the name right?) but they have the most saccharine posts. I've read BAM BAMs posts on his experience with each and level of success, but I mean are we really reaching out to build a relationship or is it just girls doing the same thing as LC but think they're better / prettier and get more money out of the bowl sites?

What's your favorite opening line? How long does it take (either of you) to get to the point?

I appreciate all the posts and will take the plunge at some point when I don't think I'll make an ass of myself or coming across as creepy. Any experience or suggestions, best practices, opening lines, etc anyone is willing to share (that won't violate their competitive advantage, though I think there's room for all) would be extremely appreciated by a newbie (in the bowl) trying to move his game to the next level.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6809544]I started my mongering career in the SW arena but the quality is extremely low (unless you happen across Lolo in UPH) and the findings are very hit-or-miss. [/QUOTE]Where do you think they all went? I keep hearing how it is getting harder to find a job and seeing more companies laying people off. Lower end jobs are starting to become fewer. I would think we would see more women finding other ways to make money (unless they are all going to onlyFans). Seeking is depressing how many women on there are over weight, old and obviously also escorts. Most of the hotties on there have been on there since covid. Where did the constant flow of young hot girls go? I would have thought that there would be more streetwalkers now than in years past.

My Spidey senses were going off kilter when she contacted me early on Wednesday asking me to get a hotel for the both of us rather than coming to me in Dayton. After some contemplation, I decided not to give her the time of day any longer and blocked her on the site and on my phone. After a few hours have passed, I receive private messages telling me more about her, what handle she used to use on Seeking, and posts that showed she should be avoided. Thanks to all who tried to help.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6808570]Is "submissive" Latin for "she just lays there?"[/QUOTE]

FYI, the young Latina, I lost contact with her. Can someone share her digits.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6809544]What's your favorite opening line? How long does it take (either of you) to get to the point?.[/QUOTE]I think the best line I've used recently in real life, not in any sugaring situation (I don't roam the sugar bowl) was, "Why don't we go have dinner and drinks where you can post something for Instagram, and later we can go someplace where you can post something for your OnlyFans?

I said it in jest, as a joke, in a real life situation, but she laughed, and, as it turned out, it worked.

Anyone seen her? Wants 3-4 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e97eadb2-2b32-4c16-93e8-32670252f6db[/URL].

Riley [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e50e5153-c338-4585-a4c7-e805925ca4f7[/URL] - 5. Incredible body. Incredibly nice. Very kinky and in an open relationship. Takes some work.

Morethanbeauty [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/887d88f9-517c-447b-b358-1baa2cbcda0a[/URL] wants 7, so out of my range unless she's a supermodel. But sent pics and she's hot.

Erythot [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5cd2138c-97dc-42c3-a6db-189f18ec9e58[/URL] Very pretty but a few too many lbs. Sexy, will do about anything for 3 - She was on top of me within about 20 min of meeting at a coffee shop.

What's her face like? I like what I see so far: Young, thin, tall.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6815942]Anyone seen her? Wants 3-4 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e97eadb2-2b32-4c16-93e8-32670252f6db[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Others may disagree here, but I'm usually pretty direct with what I expect and what I'll provide when speaking to potential SB's. While that might turn some of them away initially, I find that the ones who stick around are serious.

I used to take a more passive approach, but I found myself in endless conversations with girls who just want a chatting partner or felt like they could eventually get money out of me.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6809544]I started my mongering career in the SW arena but the quality is extremely low (unless you happen across Lolo in UPH) and the findings are very hit-or-miss. I enjoy the hunt but with Carthage being buster (except for Crazy Carthage Katie), CW being barren (seriously, the only reason I go there any more is to pass through to MCM), MCM dwindling BADLY (even lacking the usual creepy-crawlys as much), and even UPH not as reliable as it once was, I'm seriously tired of 2 hr round trips (starting in Roselawn, Carthage, CW, MCM, UPH, then back again. Occasionally hitting WH but I've NEVER seen anything there) and 1/4 tank of gas to find what I can get from Katie BTOTB for $ in a private and safe location. I mean, there ARE times SWs are out but it's been VERY dry lately.

I've tried a few providers from LC and STG with limited success; again only Katie was worth a repeat (although I'd like to revisit Hanna Sweetz when she is able to incall again as our first and only visit was cut short for lack of a cover). Candy (haven't tried, looks pretty) and Kay (dead fish) might work in a pinch, Anna in KY was awkward, and Saffy was sweet but TOO alt / spinner for me. I do appreciate the direct nature of those sites but sometimes look for something classier than "come get this hot twat".

As such, I've been peering into the bowl but keep seeing shit like "my perfect first date is to walk on the beach with champaign and save a turtle" or "looking for someone to go out on dinner dates and engage my mind while we live-laugh-love and travel to Paraguay for an adventurous weekend hiking then ending with a perfect evening walk on the beach with champaign and saving turtles". I don't care that you like drinking tea and putting together puzzles or going to movies. My favorites end with "take care of me and I'll take care of you" or "tell your wife you're supporting a good cause".

Do these girls really believe this tripe they're writing or that we're looking for a companion to spend our money on saving a goddamn turtle? Or am I missing some coded messages?

I'm not cheap, but I hesitate to spend credits for pics or to communicate with someone whose profile mentions knitting and enjoying fine wine, however I see posts here where guys take the plunge and report on success on the first meet.

Provider sites are comfortable in that when you ping them they know why and usually their first response is $/$.5/$$ Now, part of what interests me in the sugarbowl IS the additional companionship (dinner, hit the bar) but lets be honest in how I expect the date to end. I'm also interested in a regular thing with a decent girl (again, better than "Come smash this sloppy wet pussah! But I would like a PPM thing with regularity.

WYP seems like it would be fairly direct (I mean, "price" is in the name right?) but they have the most saccharine posts. I've read BAM BAMs posts on his experience with each and level of success, but I mean are we really reaching out to build a relationship or is it just girls doing the same thing as LC but think they're better / prettier and get more money out of the bowl sites?

What's your favorite opening line? How long does it take (either of you) to get to the point?

I appreciate all the posts and will take the plunge at some point when I don't think I'll make an ass of myself or coming across as creepy. Any experience or suggestions, best practices, opening lines, etc anyone is willing to share (that won't violate their competitive advantage, though I think there's room for all) would be extremely appreciated by a newbie (in the bowl) trying to move his game to the next level.[/QUOTE]

I have saved a lot of time by refusing to buy content, and letting people know that I am not sending one cent until we meet in person. No babysitters, no help on getting evicted, getting your car fixed, gas, etc. I am not buying any content either and am interested in meeting in person.

Saying that early on is something everyone should do.

[QUOTE=AlanDodson;6816682]Others may disagree here, but I'm usually pretty direct with what I expect and what I'll provide when speaking to potential SB's. While that might turn some of them away initially, I find that the ones who stick around are serious.

I used to take a more passive approach, but I found myself in endless conversations with girls who just want a chatting partner or felt like they could eventually get money out of me.[/QUOTE]I agree. I don't mind a little texting, but the goal is to rapidly get them to a M&G. I've even told a few explicitly that I'm not here for a texting buddy. If they aren't willing to do a M&G in relatively short order, move on. If they flake out last minute or ghost a M&G, move on as well. I don't care what the excuse is. They've missed their shot with me. Rescheduling a M&G like the day before is no big deal tho.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6815942]Anyone seen her? Wants 3-4 [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e97eadb2-2b32-4c16-93e8-32670252f6db[/URL].
[/QUOTE]

She has been around for over two years and yet no reports except one. IIRC, around the time she first joined a monger reported getting her to meet at the FC but she would not go further and would not even take off her jacket. It's possible that time has changed her mind. I could never get her to engage with me. That's the same picture she posted when she joined. I suggest you try to get her to video chat.

BAM

It took a lot of work but I finally got a price / meet [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d24b5a8-c381-4929-b103-ce3866f0e046[/URL].

She works with a friend (who's also hot), but wants 800 each. I'm passing.

Anyone seen her before?

[QUOTE=BamBam;6817163]She has been around for over two years and yet no reports except one. IIRC, around the time she first joined a monger reported getting her to meet at the FC but she would not go further and would not even take off her jacket. It's possible that time has changed her mind. I could never get her to engage with me. That's the same picture she posted when she joined. I suggest you try to get her to video chat.

BAM[/QUOTE]Yea I met with her 2-3 years ago. First time meet awkwardness was at level 10 for both of us, and yea she didn't even remove her jacket. I could tell she was either extremely new at this or we just didn't have chemistry.
So I asked her if this wasn't going to work then maybe try another time, as (I had another girl for a backup) She wanted to wait awhile so we watched TV for a bit, she was still reserved and it maybe partially my fault because I'm not the smooth talking type to talk her panties off, so to speak. But we met on Sa not a regular dating app So no need to be Mr. SMOOTH LOL surprised she is still active and no one else has met her or reported it. She is fairly cute face though, before she left we agreed to kiss to see if sparks would fly, but I'm not too big on kissing except for if I've had a few drinks (which I didn't that day)She is definitely the one that got away. As I have seen ALOT of Women through the hobby and that was a first for me.. not going through with the deed that wasn't a ripoff or other sketchy business.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6817175]It took a lot of work but I finally got a price / meet [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d24b5a8-c381-4929-b103-ce3866f0e046[/URL].

She works with a friend (who's also hot), but wants 800 each. I'm passing.

Anyone seen her before?[/QUOTE]She used to want $1 k and she's on SB also.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/4d7352332394ee5b[/URL]

[QUOTE=BamBam;6817163]She has been around for over two years and yet no reports except one. IIRC, around the time she first joined a monger reported getting her to meet at the FC but she would not go further and would not even take off her jacket. It's possible that time has changed her mind. I could never get her to engage with me. That's the same picture she posted when she joined. I suggest you try to get her to video chat.

BAM[/QUOTE]There were two hot spinner blonds on here 2-3 years ago. One was this one and I can't remember the other. I'm pretty sure this was the one who came across as more normal. Nice tight body. B titties. Could take a pounding but didn't like to talk about much. She had a third floor place a block north of UC. If I've got it backwards, this would be the sluttier looking one. Always showed up straight from gym in tights. But overdone mascara and lashes. Moved to a nice newer apartment in Madisonville and dropped out of school, was supporting herself simply on sugar. Heard she got a drug dealer bf from a SB who used to do doubles with her.

If it's the normalish one, I highly recommend. The other I still recommend.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6817175]It took a lot of work but I finally got a price / meet [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d24b5a8-c381-4929-b103-ce3866f0e046[/URL].

She works with a friend (who's also hot), but wants 800 each. I'm passing.

Anyone seen her before?[/QUOTE]I saw her a couple of years ago. We met for drinks and then went to her place. I had a fabulous time. She was much more affordable back then. Great body. She was looking for something ongoing.

[QUOTE=CooperTown;6817175]It took a lot of work but I finally got a price / meet [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d24b5a8-c381-4929-b103-ce3866f0e046[/URL].

She works with a friend (who's also hot), but wants 800 each. I'm passing. Anyone seen her before?[/QUOTE]She's married. Her husband is aware but does not participate or interfere. When she first got started in the sugar world she was asking for 300 PPM. As reported by others she recently had been asking for $1000 for the first meet and then 300 thereafter long-term. And as mentioned by others she is on SB. First time hearing she's working with a friend. Who is the friend? Any friend links on SA or SB?

Been chatting se seems pretty hot semi thick but don't look bad at all anyone met her? That rates she agreed to seemed fair and seems like she's definitely down feel free to pm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/572e3bca-99f6-49a7-9493-ab17d083d3a4[/URL]

I've never messaged her but the fact that she's been a member for a few months is a good sign.

[QUOTE=Kyfordboy85;6819308]Been chatting se seems pretty hot semi thick but don't look bad at all anyone met her? That rates she agreed to seemed fair and seems like she's definitely down feel free to pm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/572e3bca-99f6-49a7-9493-ab17d083d3a4[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kyfordboy85;6819308]Been chatting se seems pretty hot semi thick but don't look bad at all anyone met her? That rates she agreed to seemed fair and seems like she's definitely down feel free to pm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/572e3bca-99f6-49a7-9493-ab17d083d3a4[/URL][/QUOTE]I texted back and forth a few months ago but at that time she wanted money before we met. I passed. I certainly would have met if she had not requested money in advance. Let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=KyMike53;6819898]I texted back and forth a few months ago but at that time she wanted money before we met. I passed. I certainly would have met if she had not requested money in advance. Let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]I feel pretty confidently that she's a scammer / content seller. She immediately wanted cash when I texted her.

Anyone seen this lady.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8a4d84d-9814-4690-99f1-e2486e33a4d1[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigMike9898;6821115]Anyone seen this lady.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8a4d84d-9814-4690-99f1-e2486e33a4d1[/URL][/QUOTE]Chatted with her was down to meet just couldn't agree on a fee, she wanted too much imo.

[QUOTE=Kyfordboy85;6821228]Chatted with her was down to meet just couldn't agree on a fee, she wanted too much imo.[/QUOTE]What did she quote you?

[QUOTE=BigMike9898;6821250]What did she quote you?[/QUOTE]She quoted me $400 and she can host. She seems like a cool enough girl. I'd be in at $300, but not $400.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6821299]She quoted me $400 and she can host. She seems like a cool enough girl. I'd be in at $300, but not $400.[/QUOTE]I think $300 would be a stretch. Her pics are three years old, and she has extra weight on her in those. You can bet dollars to donuts that she hasn't gotten any thinner since then, or she'd have posted the thinner pics.

Her figure wouldn't be bad for a middle-age woman who'd had three kids. But she's fat for 24.

I'm in my 50's and I manage to stay in shape. If a 20-something woman can't be bothered to hit the gym and watch her diet, I am *not* interested in giving her money.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6821417]I think $300 would be a stretch. Her pics are three years old, and she has extra weight on her in those. You can bet dollars to donuts that she hasn't gotten any thinner since then, or she'd have posted the thinner pics.

Her figure wouldn't be bad for a middle-age woman who'd had three kids. But she's fat for 24.

I'm in my 50's and I manage to stay in shape. If a 20-something woman can't be bothered to hit the gym and watch her diet, I am *not* interested in giving her money.[/QUOTE]Maybe this one is more your speed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f77c48c-4d25-411e-b042-c8bbf13d8a4e[/URL]

Hahahahahahahaha.

Hey fellas,

I had my sugar baby back out on me for tomorrow morning.

Any help on a SB or a UTR that can meet for some fun tomorrow would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Big Mike.

I have been using an unpaid profile to view profiles on Seeking. I've had that profile for nearly ten years. Today, they suspended me asking for verification. Since I am unwilling to share that kind of data, I will need another means for looking at profiles. Before going through all the work to crate a new one, I thought I would ask if anyone has an unpaid and unused profile I could borrow to access the site. Any help would be welcome. PM only please.

BAM.

I think it's just easier to create a new profile if they request you to verify. Is it really worth it anymore anyway? They all want $500 or more.

Has anyone partaken? Dm me if you prefer. Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/63b9432b-4b7a-478b-b61b-f5f6bc5872fd[/URL]

Sophia Rose on Seeking also has a tryst ad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fb1879b-7f23-417a-9859-de7ba7749f3b[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sophia-rose7625[/URL]

[QUOTE=KyMike53;6834533]Sophia Rose on Seeking also has a tryst ad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fb1879b-7f23-417a-9859-de7ba7749f3b[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sophia-rose7625[/URL][/QUOTE]She has also popped up on WYP:

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/lqwMzODaAPj9GLb5vyV3b61r;[/URL]

I suspect we will find her on SB eventually. Business must be slow - which is surprising given her rate and nice appearance relative to the other providers around here.

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6835106]She has also popped up on WYP:

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/lqwMzODaAPj9GLb5vyV3b61r;[/URL]

I suspect we will find her on SB eventually. Business must be slow - which is surprising given her rate and nice appearance relative to the other providers around here.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it's her ridiculous verification requirements on Tryst: P411 with 2 Girls, Gov't ID with Selfie and LinkedIn, etc. On other threads we've seen discussions about PII (BAM, of all people, is the master of finding PII) and the implications so I'd rather bang Mary Jane Rottoncrotch than give my fuckin' ID / LinkedIn to a SW with a cell phone and filters.

Other than that yeah, I'd see her, she's cute.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6835511]Perhaps it's her ridiculous verification requirements on Tryst: P411 with 2 Girls, Gov't ID with Selfie and LinkedIn, etc. On other threads we've seen discussions about PII (BAM, of all people, is the master of finding PII) and the implications so I'd rather bang Mary Jane Rottoncrotch than give my fuckin' ID / LinkedIn to a SW with a cell phone and filters.

Other than that yeah, I'd see her, she's cute.[/QUOTE]On the plus side, she offers a free OF so you know *what* you are getting. On the other hand she has a 20+ lists of "No's" without ever listing any Yes's. That would force some people into asking awkward questions that should usually be avoided with a pro.

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6835614]On the plus side, she offers a free OF so you know *what* you are getting. On the other hand she has a 20+ lists of "No's" without ever listing any Yes's. That would force some people into asking awkward questions that should usually be avoided with a pro.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Trust me, she is real. I saw her twice about 2 years ago. I think she was charging 400 for an hour then I see she's down to 300 now for some reason. I also saw that she had an ad up on skip the games in Columbus. I don't know what's going on with her. Business must be tough I know she went through some personal issues a while back. Not sure. But she is the girl in the pics. She is very pretty very classy well put together in shape and her list of no's may sound like a lot but basically she's good for anything but anal and bareback full service.

[QUOTE=Potus2020;6835747]Trust me, she is real. I saw her twice about 2 years ago. I think she was charging 400 for an hour then I see she's down to 300 now for some reason. I also saw that she had an ad up on skip the games in Columbus. I don't know what's going on with her. Business must be tough I know she went through some personal issues a while back. Not sure. But she is the girl in the pics. She is very pretty very classy well put together in shape and her list of no's may sound like a lot but basically she's good for anything but anal and bareback full service.[/QUOTE]I first met her when she was a sugar baby and sold advertising. She credits me for suggesting entering pay for play but I credit her talent. She has had a mini mental breakdown and had a piece of crap guy or two stalk her. I've seen her several times over the past 2 years and can vouch she is real and not a dead fish. She is college educated and made some bad choices. She gets a little flakey, sometimes over schedules, and gets overwhelmed at times. She was 300, then 400, now 300. IMHO she's a bargain in todays market. I'd sugar her if I had room in the rotation. I'm no white knight, just offering my experience. Stay safe guys and treat them well.

I've seen Rose half dozen times over the past 2-3 years, she has always been nice to see. I've only had one scheduling issue when she cancelled. Rose is quite real, pretty accommodating, always stays in a nice place.

[QUOTE=SteveTimder;6835758]I first met her when she was a sugar baby and sold advertising. She credits me for suggesting entering pay for play but I credit her talent. She has had a mini mental breakdown and had a piece of crap guy or two stalk her. I've seen her several times over the past 2 years and can vouch she is real and not a dead fish. She is college educated and made some bad choices. She gets a little flakey, sometimes over schedules, and gets overwhelmed at times. She was 300, then 400, now 300. IMHO she's a bargain in today’s market. I'd sugar her if I had room in the rotation. I'm no white knight, just offering my experience. Stay safe guys and treat them well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BreakingBad20;6836069]I've seen Rose half dozen times over the past 2-3 years, she has always been nice to see. I've only had one scheduling issue when she cancelled. Rose is quite real, pretty accommodating, always stays in a nice place.[/QUOTE]May I please ask if you had to go through that verification gauntlet she has on Tryst?

I wonder if she's so stringent on Seeking? I mean, we know she's a pro and it would be incongruous for a SB seeking a SD to also make him jump through verification hoops.

I sent a PM.

[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6836704]May I please ask if you had to go through that verification gauntlet she has on Tryst?

I wonder if she's so stringent on Seeking? I mean, we know she's a pro and it would be incongruous for a SB seeking a SD to also make him jump through verification hoops.[/QUOTE]