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[QUOTE=Brian05;1646391]Diamond post under beauty on CL and body rubs on backpage. Very pretty pic any info out there? Her phone starts with 419-[/QUOTE]Is this the lady you are referring to?
[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/welcome-the-new-year-with-an-all-about-youpersonal-moment-26/10246306[/url]
How about checking her out and reporting back, I would guess that at the very least you will get a decent massage.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;1646943]Nice! Thank you. And I agree with most of them, though never really that impressed with Tammy (maybe just me cause I like the petite things). Been quite a while since I've seen Cindy (way back to when she was at Pacific!). Does she take walk-ins at Wonder, or do you have to make an appointment specifically with her these days? I've been there a few times this year and haven't seen her there so was thinking she maybe doesn't really "work" much anymore.[/QUOTE]You have to make an appointment with Cindy.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr;1646707]Your a new member, RTFF and if she's not reviewed and looks good, TOFTT and report.[/QUOTE]Not new at all, have read the forum. Nothing is posted here I go back to scorps.
[QUOTE=Brian05;1647332]Not new at all, have read the forum. Nothing is posted here I go back to scorps.[/QUOTE]Jeeze give the guy a break. I've heard that she looks like Wesley Snipes. I'd try someone else for your first time. If you really want to toftt I don't see much on here about Chrissy. Maybe try there. Just a suggestion. Good luck, be smart.
You don't need to make an appointment to see Cindy at Wonder. If she isn't there when you show up, you can either call her or have the girl at the desk call her. Her cell phone is on the business card. She's only a ten minute drive from Wonder. They'll have you go into her room, she has a room that only she uses, and you can wait for her. She'll come in if you request her.
I had a half decent massage from Chrissy. The upside is that she has a smokin hot body and got "comfortable" right along with me! Upsell for extras and was given great promise of a full menu. Never went back to try it, I been thinking I should though. Cute, small and a nice attitude. Worth a try!
So, if Jennifer is moving to Massage Paradise who will be wearing the sexy outfits at Royal? Do any of the other girls at Royal wear mini skirts and high heals? The other girls I have seen there are usually in jeans (although jeans can be sexy on the right girl). A nice sexy outfit does add to the experience.
[QUOTE=ElJudoka;1648473]So, if Jennifer is moving to Massage Paradise who will be wearing the sexy outfits at Royal? Do any of the other girls at Royal wear mini skirts and high heals? The other girls I have seen there are usually in jeans (although jeans can be sexy on the right girl). A nice sexy outfit does add to the experience.[/QUOTE]I would like it better if they were naked or bra and panties would be great.
Went to pacific yesterday. Is been a while since my last visit. I didn't have an appointment so I was assigned "Heidi". Heidi was wonderful. Great massage. Very sweet and friendly. Left with a great experience until I saw a tall hot blonde or she could've had red hair. Anybody know who she is? I'd like to make an appt with her.
[QUOTE=Xpressway;1648626]Went to pacific yesterday. Is been a while since my last visit. I didn't have an appointment so I was assigned "Heidi". Heidi was wonderful. Great massage. Very sweet and friendly. Left with a great experience until I saw a tall hot blonde or she could've had red hair. Anybody know who she is? I'd like to make an appt with her.[/QUOTE]That was probably Sidney formerly of Panacea. She splits her time now between Pacific and East-West. I saw her one time at Pacific, She said all most everything was on the menu (covered) once she gets to know
You, So Bring your own cover! It seems like she told me that she was at Pacific on Thursdays and Sundays, with the other days at East West.
[QUOTE=Shoeless1951; 1648827]That was probably Sidney formerly of Panacea. She splits her time now between Pacific and East-West. I saw her one time at Pacific, She said all most everything was on the menu (covered) once she gets to know
You, So Bring your own cover! It seems like she told me that she was at Pacific on Thursdays and Sundays, with the other days at East West.[/QUOTE]If it was Sidney formerly of Panaces then she must of changed the color of her hair. When I saw her about a year ago it was burnette (maybe I have a different person). She was tall and above average in looks. I can confirm open menu (including FS for $$) but as stated. You need to provide your own cover. Unlike the the usual case where you pay everything (including tip) out front after the session she had me pay the "extra" donation for the "extra" service to her in the room.
I had a very nice massage at Massage Paradise with Amanda. She has a really therapeutic and relaxing technique, and really works the kinks out. There weren't any options, but a nice HE nonetheless.
I've had two awesome sessions with Natasha. She gives the most sensual massage short of BJ / FS that I've experienced, with lots of hands on attention going both ways. I would highly recommend her to anyone.
My first time at Panacea I saw Molly. No appointment and did not request a specific woman. Good massage on both sides and I was very happy with the experience. Room was a bit too chilly was the only downside.
Will be back!
I'm heading to GR this weekend. I've been RTFF and see that E / W and Pancaea both seem to get great reviews. Someone just looking for a decent massage with some good handy work, which is better?
If I go to Pancaea I'd love to see Natasha, but what about E / W?
[QUOTE=JckOnThaRocks;1647926]Jeeze give the guy a break. I've heard that she looks like Wesley Snipes. I'd try someone else for your first time. If you really want to toftt I don't see much on here about Chrissy. Maybe try there. Just a suggestion. Good luck, be smart.[/QUOTE]Where is she located?
Does anybody have advice / tips for a newbie? I'm going to visit a mp today for the first time, don't know which one yet, and also what is some of the mp basic etiquette I should know? Any help would be appreciated.
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You should do some googling and search forums within this site and possibly others. There are some resources for first-timers out there. Not sure if anyone wants to write an essay to cover all the possible scenarios. Using google, I found this on another site. FS is not too common at MPs in GR, I think. But in general, consider this:
When I first learned about massage parlors and what could be had behind those blacked-out windows, I scoured the Internet for information. I wanted to know exactly what to do and say — down to the last detail — to ensure a good time. I found some good information, but I didn't find exactly what I was looking for: a step-by-step guide to that first massage parlor visit. Hopefully this will help someone who was in my position to be a little more relaxed that first time.
(Note: The following is hypothetical and for informational purposes only. It is not based on any actual experience, and I do not advocate or encourage illegal activity of any sort.)
First, do your research. You should know what you want, and pick a place that'll give it to you. Find out everything you can about the place: when it's open, whether you should call for an appointment, how many girls are on staff, how do the girls rate (based on appearance, age, service) , do they offer what you want (HJ, FS, etc.) , what is the standard rate (house fee plus tip) , and so on. If you ask me, the right place is worth a bit of a drive, so don't limit your search to any particular area. (I'll list at the end of this article some good sources of information for starting your research.)
Now you've picked your place and you're ready to go. Before leaving, make sure you're clean — you're much more likely to have a good time if the girl isn't repulsed by your B. O. Or bad breath. If you smoke or drink a lot of coffee, take a breath mint with you. Bring only the money you plan to spend, and it's probably a good idea to leave any credit cards or identifying information (except for your driver's license) at home. You may opt to leave this stuff in your car once you get to the place, but consider the area you'll be in. If it's in a seedy part of town (which it is likely to be) , you might not want that stuff in your car either.
Once you've arrived, you'll want to go inside. Wait! Look around for anything suspicious. If there are people hanging around, wait for them to leave. Anything that makes you feel uneasy is a good enough reason to bail. Not only do you need to be mindful of law enforcement, but it's not uncommon for massage parlor patrons to be mugged; after all, they probably won't call the police. Also, be considerate of other hobbyists. If you see someone walk in, wait a few minutes before going up, to give him time to get out of sight. If you're comfortable, go on up to the door.
There'll probably be a buzzer next to the door; press it and wait to be let in. Once you're in, someone (possibly an older "mamasan," or the girl who'll be giving you your massage) will ask you to pay the house fee. This is usually $60-80. She'll probably ask if you've been there before. I've always just been honest, and it's never resulted in a disappointing experience, so that's what I'd recommend you do. You'll be led to a private room and told to get comfortable. The girl will leave, and this is your cue to take your clothes off. If you've been offered a shower (and if you are, accept the offer) , the girl will be back to lead you to the shower room. If not, just lie face-down on the massage table.
Most places will offer you a shower (or "table shower") , which you should absolutely agree to, even if you're clean. You might see a robe hanging nearby, or otherwise there will be towels. Cover yourself and wait for the girl to return. She'll take you to a shower stall with a rubber-padded table. Uncover yourself and lie face-down after the girl pours some warm water over the table. She'll wash you with soap and rinse you off, on both sides. She may flirt with you or tease you, so be pleasant and respond kindly to her attention. If you're lucky, you'll get a glimpse of what's to come!
When you're done on both sides, stand up and hold your arms out to either side while she dries you off. Then she'll wrap the towel around your waist and — if they have one — ask if you want to sit in the sauna. Your choice, but I've always figured, why not. After she comes back and leads you to the massage room, take off your towel and lie face-down on the table. She may ask you what kind of massage you want (light, medium, or hard pressure, etc.) , but it doesn't really matter. You can really only expect a so-so massage, so I'll usually just say medium if she asks at all (and she probably won't, actually). She'll massage your shoulders and back, and work her way down, and this is usually pretty relaxing if not therapeutic. She may tease you a little too, so just enjoy it.
When she's done with your back, she'll ask you to flip over, and she may massage your chest for a minute before asking what you want to do next. This is when you tell her what you came for. Remember all that research you did? You should know what you can and can't get and how much it costs. If not, just say what you want (or gesture, if her English isn't good) , and she'll let you know if it's available. She may want her tip before doing anything, but I wouldn't offer it until she asks. A good provider knows what you came for and that you don't plan on stiffing her (well, not that way anyway) , and if you've been a good customer so far she'll probably just wait and let you tip her when all's said and done. (This is not always the case, however; some of these girls are simply not good providers. That's why you try to weed out the bad ones by researching first.)
Once you understand each other, she'll leave the room for a minute (to get "something") , come back, and get undressed. I'll leave this part to your imagination. Don't expect anything you aren't offered. Don't be too demanding. If you ask and she says she won't do it, drop it. It was your job to know what you could get before you came. If you ask for something you know is usually provided and she won't do it, it's probably just because you're a new customer, and she may not be comfortable doing certain things with new customers. Again, don't press the issue. Maybe just ask,"How about next time?" or say,"You sure? I'm a real good tipper." But if the answer is still no, leave it at that. I can't stress this enough: treat her with as much respect as you would any other girl. And yes, you absolutely must wear protection.
After the grand finale, she'll clean you off and may massage you a little more. She'll let you know when she's done, and now is the time to tip if you haven't already. She'll probably count it in front of you, and she may ask you for more. If you know you've given her the standard rate, be firm; she may be trying to take advantage of your inexperience. Then again, if you've followed my advice so far she'll probably assume you know what the deal is, and she won't try to milk you any more than she already has (get it?). Of course, if she went above and beyond — extra time, offered nonstandard "extras" (GFE) — you may want to give her a little extra.
Hopefully this is enough information to get you started. For more tips, reviews, and general hobbying information, check out the following sites:
[QUOTE=Juansome;1655790]Does anybody have advice / tips for a newbie? I'm going to visit a mp today for the first time, don't know which one yet, and also what is some of the mp basic etiquette I should know? Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1656406]You should do some googling and search forums within this site and possibly others. There are some resources for first-timers out there. Not sure if anyone wants to write an essay to cover all the possible scenarios. Using google, I found this on another site. FS is not too common at MPs in GR, I think. But in general, consider this:
When I first learned about massage parlors and what could be had behind those blacked-out windows, I scoured the Internet for information. I wanted to know exactly what to do and say — down to the last detail — to ensure a good time. I found some good information, but I didn't find exactly what I was looking for: a step-by-step guide to that first massage parlor visit. Hopefully this will help someone who was in my position to be a little more relaxed that first time.
(Note: The following is hypothetical and for informational purposes only. It is not based on any actual experience, and I do not advocate or encourage illegal activity of any sort.)
First, do your research. You should know what you want, and pick a place that'll give it to you. Find out everything you can about the place: when it's open, whether you should call for an appointment, how many girls are on staff, how do the girls rate (based on appearance, age, service) , do they offer what you want (HJ, FS, etc.) , what is the standard rate (house fee plus tip) , and so on. If you ask me, the right place is worth a bit of a drive, so don't limit your search to any particular area. (I'll list at the end of this article some good sources of information for starting your research.)
Now you've picked your place and you're ready to go. Before leaving, make sure you're clean — you're much more likely to have a good time if the girl isn't repulsed by your B. O. Or bad breath. If you smoke or drink a lot of coffee, take a breath mint with you. Bring only the money you plan to spend, and it's probably a good idea to leave any credit cards or identifying information (except for your driver's license) at home. You may opt to leave this stuff in your car once you get to the place, but consider the area you'll be in. If it's in a seedy part of town (which it is likely to be) , you might not want that stuff in your car either.
Once you've arrived, you'll want to go inside. Wait! Look around for anything suspicious. If there are people hanging around, wait for them to leave. Anything that makes you feel uneasy is a good enough reason to bail. Not only do you need to be mindful of law enforcement, but it's not uncommon for massage parlor patrons to be mugged; after all, they probably won't call the police. Also, be considerate of other hobbyists. If you see someone walk in, wait a few minutes before going up, to give him time to get out of sight. If you're comfortable, go on up to the door.
There'll probably be a buzzer next to the door; press it and wait to be let in. Once you're in, someone (possibly an older "mamasan," or the girl who'll be giving you your massage) will ask you to pay the house fee. This is usually $60-80. She'll probably ask if you've been there before. I've always just been honest, and it's never resulted in a disappointing experience, so that's what I'd recommend you do. You'll be led to a private room and told to get comfortable. The girl will leave, and this is your cue to take your clothes off. If you've been offered a shower (and if you are, accept the offer) , the girl will be back to lead you to the shower room. If not, just lie face-down on the massage table.
Most places will offer you a shower (or "table shower") , which you should absolutely agree to, even if you're clean. You might see a robe hanging nearby, or otherwise there will be towels. Cover yourself and wait for the girl to return. She'll take you to a shower stall with a rubber-padded table. Uncover yourself and lie face-down after the girl pours some warm water over the table. She'll wash you with soap and rinse you off, on both sides. She may flirt with you or tease you, so be pleasant and respond kindly to her attention. If you're lucky, you'll get a glimpse of what's to come!
When you're done on both sides, stand up and hold your arms out to either side while she dries you off. Then she'll wrap the towel around your waist and — if they have one — ask if you want to sit in the sauna. Your choice, but I've always figured, why not. After she comes back and leads you to the massage room, take off your towel and lie face-down on the table. She may ask you what kind of massage you want (light, medium, or hard pressure, etc.) , but it doesn't really matter. You can really only expect a so-so massage, so I'll usually just say medium if she asks at all (and she probably won't, actually). She'll massage your shoulders and back, and work her way down, and this is usually pretty relaxing if not therapeutic. She may tease you a little too, so just enjoy it.
When she's done with your back, she'll ask you to flip over, and she may massage your chest for a minute before asking what you want to do next. This is when you tell her what you came for. Remember all that research you did? You should know what you can and can't get and how much it costs. If not, just say what you want (or gesture, if her English isn't good) , and she'll let you know if it's available. She may want her tip before doing anything, but I wouldn't offer it until she asks. A good provider knows what you came for and that you don't plan on stiffing her (well, not that way anyway) , and if you've been a good customer so far she'll probably just wait and let you tip her when all's said and done. (This is not always the case, however; some of these girls are simply not good providers. That's why you try to weed out the bad ones by researching first.)
Once you understand each other, she'll leave the room for a minute (to get "something") , come back, and get undressed. I'll leave this part to your imagination. Don't expect anything you aren't offered. Don't be too demanding. If you ask and she says she won't do it, drop it. It was your job to know what you could get before you came. If you ask for something you know is usually provided and she won't do it, it's probably just because you're a new customer, and she may not be comfortable doing certain things with new customers. Again, don't press the issue. Maybe just ask,"How about next time?" or say,"You sure? I'm a real good tipper." But if the answer is still no, leave it at that. I can't stress this enough: treat her with as much respect as you would any other girl. And yes, you absolutely must wear protection.
After the grand finale, she'll clean you off and may massage you a little more. She'll let you know when she's done, and now is the time to tip if you haven't already. She'll probably count it in front of you, and she may ask you for more. If you know you've given her the standard rate, be firm; she may be trying to take advantage of your inexperience. Then again, if you've followed my advice so far she'll probably assume you know what the deal is, and she won't try to milk you any more than she already has (get it?). Of course, if she went above and beyond — extra time, offered nonstandard "extras" (GFE) — you may want to give her a little extra.
Hopefully this is enough information to get you started. For more tips, reviews, and general hobbying information, check out the following sites:[/QUOTE]Thanks for your info, it was helpful, I had a pleasurable experience, and will definitely be trying this again.
[QUOTE=Juansome;1656511]Thanks for your info, it was helpful, I had a pleasurable experience, and will definitely be trying this again.[/QUOTE]TB's has outlined a useful and general approach one can always take with most AMP (especially about doing your research and having a good idea about what's what going in). One other suggestion you might want to try (at least it has worked for me). Just be direct and up front from the beginning what you are there for. Always be polite and respectful and have money out where they can see it. Make it clear you are no cop, flirt and if possible, get them to laugh (don't know why but specially with the Asian babes this seems to put them at ease). I am also sure it doesn't hurt that I'm older and doubt anyone would confuse me with LE. I have a "playful", nonthreatening manner and understand the Asian culture. Anyway, by establishing what we are there for it avoids all the BS and can start things off right from the start (I. E. Shower room. I've had sessions where we never got off the table. LOL). Lets face it. I am not there for the lame massage so why play the game. Sometimes a great massage and "extras" are exactly what I seek. But then that is a whole different quest and set of rules.
You covered all of that very well. I remember a massage place that I liked to go to when I was in Missouri working at a customer's facility. The place was on the northern outskirts of Columbia. Things there always went to the way you described with the exception that I always got an awesome massage including the girl doing a back walking massage. I have to say, there is nothing better than having someone experienced do a back walking massage.
[QUOTE=Oarman;1606021]Long time first time guys big fan. Have been goin to east west regularly for some time now. Went today got more than I ever have before pm me for details seniors also know alot of the names of the to go along with the faces not all though cause the turnover is pretty high there. Like I said seniors give me a shout happy to help where I can stay safe boys.[/QUOTE]Have you ever seen Alma there. Pretty good looking Mexican. Is she good?
[QUOTE=Asianplvr;1572958]I have not returned in some time now. I had two visits with Alma which were terrific. However, our forum and posts of the experience has tightened things up there. I think if you get [i]any[/] he you've done good. [i]If[/] any extras are available I would keep them off the open board and bring them to pm.[/QUOTE]What was your experience like with Alma. HJ or more?
Hey I'm new to this whole scene, had my first massage and it was okay, just wondering for the money, is it better to go with escort services or a BP provider, looking to get the best bang for my buck? Any info would be appreciated, sorry I'm a newbie just trying to learn and not get ripped off or leave unsatisfied.
I thinking checking wonder for the first time.
Are there opions than a HJ can you get BBBJ or FS there.
And who do I see there?
Another good place for general guide info is AMP guide dot net."Randy" does a good job of spelling it out.
[QUOTE=ChicagoSouth; 1657587]I thinking checking wonder for the first time.
Are there opions than a HJ can you get BBBJ or FS there.
And who do I see there?[/QUOTE]I've been talking about Wonder and a black girl there who goes by "Rhonda." I found out her name Sunday when I went there about 1:00. She wasn't there. Some not-so-attractive older Oriental lady thought she had me. Wrong. I saw a little cutie oriental named Chrissy. I chose her .60 upfront, in the back I went and got comfortable. She came and said "I no want tip I want to make you happy."
A wonderful "tease me" massage started, then came the flip. My soldier was paying attention with the pen and some extremely angry oriental guy was screaming at the top of his lungs."SO THIS HOW YU DU MASSAGEE. I go call poleecee now. Ya got to picture this. Here I lay with my junk in her hands and my hands in her pants. Yiie! My poor soldier who doesn't see active duty near enough immediately went A. W. O. L. I just laid there scared to death! I don't know what the two ladies told him, but I think he left. I got up and put my clothes on and peeked out the door as Chrissy was coming back apologizing."This never happen before. Yu want to see other lady? She finish for me." I said no and went to my car. I thoght about it and went back in to get my 60. She was coming out 40 in hand, I didn't argue. As I was getting in my car she said "Yu come back tomorrow I make it up to yu." I said What about now? She said "I cannot do. Come back tomorrow." I said I don't think so and got the f. outa there. I think I'm lucky to be outa there in one piece with my junk still attached!
[QUOTE=Pingman;1657380]Whatwas your experience like with Alma. HJ or more?[/QUOTE]My last visit she did no extras. She read the posts here on the forum and stopped extras.
Hello this is Sidney I just want everyone to know that unfortunately someone was mistaken and thought that I offered FS. I just want everyone too know that I never have and never will offer FS. I just want everyone to know this so they do not come to my job thinking that is offered. Thank you have a wonderful day.
[QUOTE=Pingman;1657375]Have you ever seen Alma there. Pretty good looking Mexican. Is she good?[/QUOTE]Has anyone else seen Alma I would like to see her but would like more info. New to this, thank you.
[QUOTE=ChicagoSouth; 1657587]I thinking checking wonder for the first time.
Are there opions than a HJ can you get BBBJ or FS there.
And who do I see there?[/QUOTE]Went to wonder few weeks ago East Beltline topless seen her again had ask her if she does any other services and she offered BBBJ for a price was well earn left satisfied. On my second visit seen two beautiful ladies would diffinently be returning.
Hey all,
I'm no longer at Wonder Massage so please come visit me at 6XXX 28th st.
Hope to see you soon!
Paige
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[QUOTE=Pingman;1657824]Has anyone else seen Alma I would like to see her but would like more info. New to this, thank you.[/QUOTE]I am wondering if anyone else has seen Alma at East West. I would like to try her. My first time so if you have any info I would appreciate it.
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[QUOTE=Leggs19;1657788]Hello this is Sidney I just want everyone to know that unfortunately someone was mistaken and thought that I offered FS. I just want everyone too know that I never have and never will offer FS. I just want everyone to know this so they do not come to my job thinking that is offered. Thank you have a wonderful day.[/QUOTE]Hi Sydney,
Wish I had gotten a chance at your FS before you stopped them.
Cindy: Went to wonder few weeks ago East Beltline topless seen her again had ask her if she does any other services and she offered BBBJ for a price was well earn left satisfied. On my second visit seen two beautiful ladies would diffinently be returning.
[QUOTE=Pingman;1657824]Has anyone else seen Alma I would like to see her but would like more info. New to this, thank you.[/QUOTE]I have given you all the info there is on her.