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[QUOTE=BadInfluence;4823048]LOL, I've had some fall asleep on my arm after, but never during! I don't know man, I might have tried for greek. That'll fucking wake her up.
Were you the last appt of the day or something?[/QUOTE]Yeah if you would have dove into Greek she would have woke up pretty quick. Lmao.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4822369]While it sounds fun, it would just be an awkward swap out every few minutes. But there would be additional mental overload as well to look forward to. And. Practice your best Bruce Lee mind over body.
Do not go in believing it will be girl on girl on guy on girl slobfest.
But if you're good with a lot of pauses with wipes, and no G on G, then by all means go for it.
Got to do it to say you've done it. .[/QUOTE]Which org (s) have you done doubles with? BGC? KGA?
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[QUOTE=StarSkyMmc;4823770]Today is my 1 month mark of being in the hobby and I can't believe how much of a dent this put in my wallet lmao but I've been slowing down this past week and a half by trying my hand on Tinder and SeekingArrangemnts. It looks like Lolita from SA moved to smk650 under the name Addison. Also, V+F has added two new girls which don't look too particularly interesting. My next review will be this week and I'm thinking of probably Allison or Jean who both have been on my wish list since the beginning of May.[/QUOTE]How's seekingarrangement up here? I did it awhile back, but down in OC, I feel that it is more expensive and more time consuming than Kgirls, although maybe I was aiming high, but it was generally 400-500 a meet, plus the membership fee. Some other girls are even higher, wanting a monthly allowance and expensive dinner. I dabbled a little up here, but the chicks I met were in the higher maintenance category so I passed.
I saw Allison recently, she is at a premium price similar to Gigi. Overall, felt session with alright / solid, not extraordinary. Pluses she has a nice physique / body is athletic, she does a nice CG horizontally. She didn't DFK me maybe COVID or YMMV, but she was a good kisser even with no dfk. Good English, nice girl but a little reserved (I think she is more introverted), does react well if you hit the right spots. 2nd pop was only a handy. Didn't totally click with me, maybe she warms up more during more sessions or a little bit bothered by COVID. Still worth a try. Face matches her photos.
Things that may bother some people fake tits (they were nice and soft), tat on her stomach, I think she has a fake ass (hard) but it does look good. Her org and related orgs do a temperature check due to COVID.
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[QUOTE=StarSkyMmc;4823770]Today is my 1 month mark of being in the hobby and I can't believe how much of a dent this put in my wallet lmao but I've been slowing down this past week and a half by trying my hand on Tinder and SeekingArrangemnts. It looks like Lolita from SA moved to smk650 under the name Addison. Also, V+F has added two new girls which don't look too particularly interesting. My next review will be this week and I'm thinking of probably Allison or Jean who both have been on my wish list since the beginning of May.[/QUOTE]Jean of BGC, but which org is Allison at again?
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[QUOTE=StraightOmar;4824088]How's seekingarrangement up here? I did it awhile back, but down in OC, I feel that it is more expensive and more time consuming than Kgirls, although maybe I was aiming high, but it was generally 400-500 a meet, plus the membership fee. Some other girls are even higher, wanting a monthly allowance and expensive dinner. I dabbled a little up here, but the chicks I met were in the higher maintenance category so I passed.
I saw Allison recently, she is at a premium price similar to Gigi. Overall, felt session with alright / solid, not extraordinary. Pluses she has a nice physique / body is athletic, she does a nice CG horizontally. She didn't DFK me maybe COVID or YMMV, but she was a good kisser even with no dfk. Good English, nice girl but a little reserved (I think she is more introverted), does react well if you hit the right spots. 2nd pop was only a handy. Didn't totally click with me, maybe she warms up more during more sessions or a little bit bothered by COVID. Still worth a try. Face matches her photos.
Things that may bother some people fake tits (they were nice and soft), tat on her stomach, I think she has a fake ass (hard) but it does look good. Her org and related orgs do a temperature check due to COVID.[/QUOTE]There are much more info on a different forum. So basically SA (seeking) will require more work on your part to find and talk to the girls (pretty much just like dating), and yes there's a member fee but oh well just suck it up, as for the donations. It varies, from acceptable to the outlandish. In terms of service, it's just like your run of the mill kdoll experience, you will have bad, good, and great experiences.
I'd say if you rather not put in the effort and added expenses, then just stick with regular orgs. However, if you are looking for genuine amateurs then take the plunge and try out SA.
Which org is Allison part of?
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[QUOTE=StraightOmar;4823915]Which org (s) have you done doubles with? BGC? KGA?[/QUOTE]None that exist today.
The last one I spent time vetting and setting up was in Thailand Sept 2016 (attached). Two of the three were hard bi, was worth the $120 for the whole night.
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[QUOTE=StraightOmar;4824088]How's seekingarrangement up here? I did it awhile back, but down in OC, I feel that it is more expensive and more time consuming than Kgirls, although maybe I was aiming high, but it was generally 400-500 a meet, plus the membership fee. Some other girls are even higher, wanting a monthly allowance and expensive dinner. I dabbled a little up here, but the chicks I met were in the higher maintenance category so I passed.[/QUOTE]Yeah it's pretty much what you described. Girls in the 8+ range require ppm of 500+ and 6-7's typically want ppm of 3-4 although there is some overlap and I've talked a few cuties down to a ppm of 150-250, but obviously I'm paying kgirl prices at this point for likely inferior service (although more fun time of course). It is nice talking to regular college girls again and it feels like having friends however, the big thing is the time consuming texting and flakes. I've had about 50 numbers, 10 are escorts, 20 flakes, 10 went no where, I met up with 5 and went on 2 dates. In total it's an embarrassing amount of time, money, and effort wasted for the return.
[QUOTE]Which org is Allison part of?[/QUOTE]Fragrant Flower.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4824184] Which org is Allison part of?[/QUOTE]GFEinvestments.
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GFE Investments
[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4824184]There are much more info on a different forum. So basically SA (seeking) will require more work on your part to find and talk to the girls (pretty much just like dating), and yes there's a member fee but oh well just suck it up, as for the donations. It varies, from acceptable to the outlandish. In terms of service, it's just like your run of the mill kdoll experience, you will have bad, good, and great experiences.
I'd say if you rather not put in the effort and added expenses, then just stick with regular orgs. However, if you are looking for genuine amateurs then take the plunge and try out SA.
Which org is Allison part of?[/QUOTE]I'm assuming the Allison is the one at GFE Investments ch, based on up charge mention.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4824184]There are much more info on a different forum. So basically SA (seeking) will require more work on your part to find and talk to the girls (pretty much just like dating), and yes there's a member fee but oh well just suck it up, as for the donations. It varies, from acceptable to the outlandish. In terms of service, it's just like your run of the mill kdoll experience, you will have bad, good, and great experiences.
I'd say if you rather not put in the effort and added expenses, then just stick with regular orgs. However, if you are looking for genuine amateurs then take the plunge and try out SA.
Which org is Allison part of?[/QUOTE]Allison is with Fragrant Flower in the Peninsula.
SA There's informative threads in LA and Richmond, It takes a little while to get used to, but once you do you can weed out the fakes, the pros and time wasters.
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[QUOTE=StraightOmar;4824309]Allison is with Fragrant Flower in the Peninsula.
SA There's informative threads in LA and Richmond, It takes a little while to get used to, but once you do you can weed out the fakes, the pros and time wasters.[/QUOTE]Ah yes GFE Investment and their branch orgs. Oh well no shot with them since they blacklisted me.
Good to know thanks, yeah at that point it's pretty much just high cost dating.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4821877]And who are those that are too tempting to refuse?[/QUOTE]That's a secret I'm supposed to be antibbfs.
Anyway, that'd be Miko. I do miss her. She straight up jumped on my dick without any prep or p2 p or anything right after BJ and rim on my first visit. She was so tight you literally could feel the entire texture of her pussy hole.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4824319]Ah yes GFE Investment and their branch orgs. Oh well no shot with them since they blacklisted me.
Good to know thanks, yeah at that point it's pretty much just high cost dating.[/QUOTE]If it's not a secret, do you know why did they blacklist you? Dan's org is fairly reasonable as long as you don't try to get bb from their cfs only girls or any other shenanigans.
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[QUOTE=RocketManP;4824322]That's a secret I'm supposed to be antibbfs.
Anyway, that'd be Miko. I do miss her. She straight up jumped on my dick without any prep or p2 p or anything right after BJ and rim on my first visit. She was so tight you literally could feel the entire texture of her pussy hole.[/QUOTE]Miko from KGA?
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[QUOTE=RocketManP;4824325]If it's not a secret, do you know why did they blacklist you? Dan's org is fairly reasonable as long as you don't try to get bb from their cfs only girls or any other shenanigans.[/QUOTE]Well let's just say I have a habit of pushing people's buttons so the conversation during my initial attempt at screening escalated, so there you have it. Anyway, tried again recently with a better tone and different number, but no luck.
Who's Dan? Is he the boss behind GFE investment and its branch orgs?
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4824867]Miko from KGA?[/QUOTE]Yes, the question was about KGA.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4824877]Well let's just say I have a habit of pushing people's buttons so the conversation during my initial attempt at screening escalated, so there you have it. Anyway, tried again recently with a better tone and different number, but no luck.
Who's Dan? Is he the boss behind GFE investment and its branch orgs?[/QUOTE]I see. Yeah, probably not the best idea to get confrontational during screening.
Dan is the booker for all those orgs. Before the investments org, I think all of their orgs were double lettered here. Ie Elegant Eros, Luxury Lips, Fragnant Flower, etc.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4824193]None that exist today.
The last one I spent time vetting and setting up was in Thailand Sept 2016 (attached). Two of the three were hard bi, was worth the $120 for the whole night.[/QUOTE]Foursome?? Damn mate.
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[QUOTE=StarSkyMmc;4824250]Yeah it's pretty much what you described. Girls in the 8+ range require ppm of 500+ and 6-7's typically want ppm of 3-4 although there is some overlap and I've talked a few cuties down to a ppm of 150-250, but obviously I'm paying kgirl prices at this point for likely inferior service (although more fun time of course). It is nice talking to regular college girls again and it feels like having friends however, the big thing is the time consuming texting and flakes. I've had about 50 numbers, 10 are escorts, 20 flakes, 10 went no where, I met up with 5 and went on 2 dates. In total it's an embarrassing amount of time, money, and effort wasted for the return.
Fragrant Flower.[/QUOTE]I agree on SA, but I think due to the COVID situation it's probably not the best time to use it. As it looks like more scammers and platonic profiles are popping up.
SA is more then just sex (although that's the main reason), it's nice to be able to hang out and chat with a hottie to dance or have drinks with. I definitely noticed / felt the guys checking out my dates. You're definitely able to build more chemistry. If I had more money and time I would be using that more. Once you start using more then it becomes easier, but even having a SB can be a little more time consuming then just using Kgirls. It's definitely not the economical option.
Kgirls comparing everything else (other escorts, SA) it's just hard to match the time efficiency, price and service. Especially in the Bay. LA / OC it's a little more expensive for some reason.
If PD or SA were the only options, I would be using SA a lot more.
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[QUOTE=StraightOmar;4825184]I agree on SA, but I think due to the COVID situation it's probably not the best time to use it. As it looks like more scammers and platonic profiles are popping up.
SA is more then just sex (although that's the main reason), it's nice to be able to hang out and chat with a hottie to dance or have drinks with. I definitely noticed / felt the guys checking out my dates. You're definitely able to build more chemistry. If I had more money and time I would be using that more. Once you start using more then it becomes easier, but even having a SB can be a little more time consuming then just using Kgirls. It's definitely not the economical option.
Kgirls comparing everything else (other escorts, SA) it's just hard to match the time efficiency, price and service. Especially in the Bay. LA / OC it's a little more expensive for some reason.
If PD or SA were the only options, I would be using SA a lot more.[/QUOTE]All very good points. Moving forward I will probably just stick to Kgirls and keep the 2 SBs I have now while trying to renegotiate / bring down my average cost since I don't want to continue paying them the PPM as when we first met. Perhaps I will try again after the pandemic dies down. You are very right on PD though, the value is quite terrible although I follow a lot of these girls on Snapchat just for the entertainment.
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[QUOTE=RocketManP;4824982]I see. Yeah, probably not the best idea to get confrontational during screening.
Dan is the booker for all those orgs. Before the investments org, I think all of their orgs were double lettered here. Ie Elegant Eros, Luxury Lips, Fragnant Flower, etc.[/QUOTE]I see, how the heck did you find out a PO's real name or name he goes by haha. I see, so the orgs (which I consider as branch orgs) Actually precedes GFE Investment? Huh, learning something new.
No wonder once I got blocked, all the other orgs in GFE's circle knew. Same booker. Sigh.
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Kga
Are any of the girls at KGA good for BBFS? If now where is a good source for it? I will be in San Jose soon for a few days and looking to do at least one session a day. I had been usually playing in Dallas or Germany where BBFS is the norm.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4824193]None that exist today.
The last one I spent time vetting and setting up was in Thailand Sept 2016 (attached). Two of the three were hard bi, was worth the $120 for the whole night.[/QUOTE]The price for 3-way here is steeper, more than what I was expecting. So that's got me thinking.
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Was scrolling through another website and saw familiar pics. Reached out to the PO and my references were no good. PO put it in plain terms that an org that doesn't screen well a la KGA, BGC, KP, etc would not fly with them. This is why after finally getting Caras to respond after trying since last year, I bombed the reference part. Rocket made a post about org tiers a few weeks ago. After getting screened, I made an appointment with Ace of ebk, formerly Vixen.
Now to the actual report.
Pros.
-no script.
-submissive.
- very pse, nasty will go from fucking to bbj taste herself, smooth transition to any position.
- high stamina on top and for bbj. Blew me for like 20 minutes and could have easily kept riding me for 30 minutes different styles too.
-flexible.
- can take an absolute thrashing. Rode her cervix with O complaints, fast and deep.
- can DT with ease, nose to pelvis bottom lip to balls. Initiates facefucking. Second pop highlight reel DT passed her tonsils as her throat tightened up on my head and shaft as if she was having an allergic reaction.
-Decent English no app needed.
-very tight box.
-Loves to dfk.
-gets wet and stays wet. All the schlickin noises.
Cons.
-her body. Super skinny can see her ribs, bad fake titties that are too big for body / round just hang there. 0 ass.
- Lack of chemistry. This one is hard to describe but there's some girls I see just for the chemistry even though the service is subpar. Still this was a pse fuckfest and she'd be on top of my rotation if she was in the south Bay. Could improve on repeats. This one is completely on me.
- the incall. Really bad part of town LOL. Usually this isn't a factor but the area is bad and so is the complex. Easy to get into though.
- her voice. Kinda reminds me of tia of LA.
As of today she's up there with the current crop of service girls.
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[QUOTE=HawkMoon;4826796]Was scrolling through another website and saw familiar pics. Reached out to the PO and my references were no good. PO put it in plain terms that an org that doesn't screen well a la KGA, BGC, KP, etc would not fly with them. This is why after finally getting Caras to respond after trying since last year, I bombed the reference part. Rocket made a post about org tiers a few weeks ago. After getting screened, I made an appointment with Ace of ebk, formerly Vixen.
Now to the actual report.
Pros.
-no script.
-submissive.
- very pse, nasty will go from fucking to bbj taste herself, smooth transition to any position.
- high stamina on top and for bbj. Blew me for like 20 minutes and could have easily kept riding me for 30 minutes different styles too.
-flexible.
- can take an absolute thrashing. Rode her cervix with O complaints, fast and deep.
- can DT with ease, nose to pelvis bottom lip to balls. Initiates facefucking. Second pop highlight reel DT passed her tonsils as her throat tightened up on my head and shaft as if she was having an allergic reaction.
-Decent English no app needed.
-very tight box.
-Loves to dfk.
-gets wet and stays wet. All the schlickin noises.
Cons.
-her body. Super skinny can see her ribs, bad fake titties that are too big for body / round just hang there. 0 ass.
- Lack of chemistry. This one is hard to describe but there's some girls I see just for the chemistry even though the service is subpar. Still this was a pse fuckfest and she'd be on top of my rotation if she was in the south Bay. Could improve on repeats. This one is completely on me.
- the incall. Really bad part of town LOL. Usually this isn't a factor but the area is bad and so is the complex. Easy to get into though.
- her voice. Kinda reminds me of tia of LA.
As of today she's up there with the current crop of service girls.[/QUOTE]Certain agencies right now don't respond to reference checks BGC / KGA, Peach Cafe and even LSC (maybe that's why they have a harsher screening process). It's best to ask, some orgs will say no, others will just not respond to the question. I was hoping that getting into one org opens doors to unrelated orgs, but that's not the case if they don't respond.
I had to dust off / use older references from Southern California to get into new Orgs.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4825027]Foursome?? Damn mate.[/QUOTE]The trick is, find a girl in a club you -really- like, or split ladydrinks between two you -really- like.
Ask which other girl there that they -really- like. Let them set it up, and then see how they carry chemistry with each other.
And if that works, grab a third if you like that you could care less if she's into other girls. Which. Is rare, but in the end, let the girls make the 3-some deal.
Yes, that -1- time I took 3, and it worked well. Two thrashed on each other and I had #3 to myself. When I wanted, or the other two or one of them. Etc.
You don't need to be a young stud either, energy wise, Go at your pace, pretend you're directing a full length film, you can fill up many hours this way, at your pace.
It was a long night, 3 girls for $120 from 11 p-10 a (Including sleep and 'waking up time' was a good deal in 2016. (Photo was after cleaning up before housekeeping came in).
2019 be closer to $200 US. But still.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4827352]
It was a long night, 3 girls for $120 from 11 p-10 a (Including sleep and 'waking up time' was a good deal in 2016. (Photo was after cleaning up before housekeeping came in).
2019 be closer to $200 US. But still.[/QUOTE]Hehe, I have yet to go to southeast Asia. And only fooled around a few times in CN. But yeah the donation is so minuscule for a foursome compared to here. And it's not even possible here I'd guess.
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Bunny Kira
Anyone seen Kira with BGC?
I'm wondering how accurate those photos are as a representation of her and also how the service was?
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[QUOTE=MrJd1986;4828406]Anyone seen Kira with BGC?
I'm wondering how accurate those photos are as a representation of her and also how the service was?[/QUOTE]Yes.
Face is her with P.S. And younger. Age the face in ad by around 7-10 years. Body, she has few extra pounds but more toned than not. About 5'3-5'4. Not really eye candy.
Service. DT as advertised, most comparable to Ciara. Hard and fast DT. Not quite in that Yuna / Jude / Claire category.
Aggressive attitude, which is nice but also kinda weird. Was dfking me like crazy after first pop.
FS service was surprising. She was stalling on it. I'm average with below average girth and when I did doggy she told me to go slow. Couldn't take a pounding, even tho she isn't too tight. Not a lot of cg stamina. I hope it's just a one time thing. I will try again. Not much chemistry, after first pop you could tell she was not thrilled of prospect of getting another. So I just got a massage.
I will go back just off dt and rim (which was quite nice but ont he shorter side) and hope FS stuff was just a one time thing.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4827776]Hehe, I have yet to go to southeast Asia. And only fooled around a few times in CN. But yeah the donation is so minuscule for a foursome compared to here. And it's not even possible here I'd guess.[/QUOTE]Ya. Its not a bad trip, but not for everyone.
I've taken along friends that haven't really mongered ever, and had the time of their lives. And I've taken people that do monger, bit spent 95% of the week overthinking everything and getting depressed, and only learned how great it is the last day.
Me. I can't tinder for my life, I need lessons there. .
Everyone has their strong points.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4827776]Hehe, I have yet to go to southeast Asia.[/QUOTE]It's a destination. After a few trips, you make connections with 'real people' that make up for the randomness.
Its not a bad place to. Have an old friend over to chill by the pool at your AirBNB, make the rounds at a few bars, drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four (This is hard, practice on line a LOT first! Pick your fav bar to have your 50th birthday at. Which will fuck you up, buy a few watches, take a nice bath, giant malls where you quite literally feel like home, have your fav curry fetched and delivered by your current favoured bargirl, and the best. Is when you tell your buddy what night YOU want to be 'Airline Stewardess' uniform night when you visit, and then show up as the Captain. That's how you get fucked up again.
Don't forget the street food, the most amazeballs fireworks competitions -ever-.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4829054]It's a destination. After a few trips, you make connections with 'real people' that make up for the randomness.
Its not a bad place to. Have an old friend over to chill by the pool at your AirBNB, make the rounds at a few bars, drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four (This is hard, practice on line a LOT first! Pick your fav bar to have your 50th birthday at. Which will fuck you up, buy a few watches, take a nice bath, giant malls where you quite literally feel like home, have your fav curry fetched and delivered by your current favoured bargirl, and the best. Is when you tell your buddy what night YOU want to be 'Airline Stewardess' uniform night when you visit, and then show up as the Captain. That's how you get fucked up again.
Don't forget the street food, the most amazeballs fireworks competitions -ever-.[/QUOTE]Was that Bangkok? Or Pattaya?
Thailand is a fun place to vacation, even when not chasing girls. I only visited Bangkok, Phuket and Phi Phi Islands.
Kinda want to go back and visit other parts like Krabi.
Vietnam was cool to visit too, that's harder to navigate around compared to Thailand, as a lot of people don't speak English, I was fortunate to travel with native Vietnamese.
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[QUOTE=StraightOmar;4829314]Was that Bangkok? Or Pattaya?
Thailand is a fun place to vacation, even when not chasing girls. I only visited Bangkok, Phuket and Phi Phi Islands.
Kinda want to go back and visit other parts like Krabi.
Vietnam was cool to visit too, that's harder to navigate around compared to Thailand, as a lot of people don't speak English, I was fortunate to travel with native Vietnamese.[/QUOTE]Pattaya, Bangkok isn't what it was 20 yrs ago, I'm only in it for the 45 min it takes to leave the plane to be in a private taxi past the edge of it.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4829054]It's a destination. After a few trips, you make connections with 'real people' that make up for the randomness.
Its not a bad place to. Have an old friend over to chill by the pool at your AirBNB, make the rounds at a few bars, drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four (This is hard, practice on line a LOT first! Pick your fav bar to have your 50th birthday at. Which will fuck you up, buy a few watches, take a nice bath, giant malls where you quite literally feel like home, have your fav curry fetched and delivered by your current favoured bargirl, and the best. Is when you tell your buddy what night YOU want to be 'Airline Stewardess' uniform night when you visit, and then show up as the Captain. That's how you get fucked up again.
Don't forget the street food, the most amazeballs fireworks competitions -ever-.[/QUOTE]"drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four" ? Not sure what you mean by that. Feel free to PM me the definition if not appropriate in public thread. If you don't mind, I'd love to live through your photos a bit more, hehe preferably more of the bargirls you tried.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4829054]It's a destination. After a few trips, you make connections with 'real people' that make up for the randomness.
Its not a bad place to. Have an old friend over to chill by the pool at your AirBNB, make the rounds at a few bars, drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four (This is hard, practice on line a LOT first! Pick your fav bar to have your 50th birthday at. Which will fuck you up, buy a few watches, take a nice bath, giant malls where you quite literally feel like home, have your fav curry fetched and delivered by your current favoured bargirl, and the best. Is when you tell your buddy what night YOU want to be 'Airline Stewardess' uniform night when you visit, and then show up as the Captain. That's how you get fucked up again.
Don't forget the street food, the most amazeballs fireworks competitions -ever-.[/QUOTE]Damn that second pic in the first row of the MILF is super hot. Only know 2 TW providers around her age with her body. And one's back in TW for now.
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[QUOTE=MrStaypuft;4829375]Pattaya, Bangkok isn't what it was 20 yrs ago, I'm only in it for the 45 min it takes to leave the plane to be in a private taxi past the edge of it.[/QUOTE]I've been thinking about visiting in the next year or so. I was in BKK, SGN, and HAN in 2018 for a total of a month, but only hooked up with other tourists / backpackers in BKK via Tinder (mostly Euro girls). In Vietnam I found it much easier to meet up with locals than BKK, but they had some strange hotel rules (holding my girl's I'd as collateral). I remember being extremely put off by the monger scene back then because, it always came across to me as creepy old dudes (still does sometimes). One thing this scene has taught me was safety as before I was just BBing on every hook up, and now I'm alot more paranoid.
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[QUOTE=StarSkyMmc;4830020]I've been thinking about visiting in the next year or so. I was in BKK, SGN, and HAN in 2018 for a total of a month, but only hooked up with other tourists / backpackers in BKK via Tinder (mostly Euro girls). In Vietnam I found it much easier to meet up with locals than BKK, but they had some strange hotel rules (holding my girl's I'd as collateral). I remember being extremely put off by the monger scene back then because, it always came across to me as creepy old dudes (still does sometimes). One thing this scene has taught me was safety as before I was just BBing on every hook up, and now I'm alot more paranoid.[/QUOTE]Ya, the I'd think is law.
Technically a girl can't go with you into a hotel under 19.
And it's a hidden benefit that the desk staff will also gladly review the I'd to inform you if you've stumbled upon a ladyboy by mistake.
It's also for your security in the room.
SOME hotels want a joiner free for the extra guest as well, but not all.
Asking for I'd, and in many cases holding the girls I'd is absolutely normal. Some private buildings may not ask, but. Should.
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4829718]"drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four" ? Not sure what you mean by that. Feel free to PM me the definition if not appropriate in public thread. If you don't mind, I'd love to live through your photos a bit more, hehe preferably more of the bargirls you tried.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.target.com/p/connect-4-game/-/A-13697926[/URL]
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[QUOTE=JunkFoodFtw;4829718]"drink a bargirl under the table playing connect-four" ? Not sure what you mean by that. Feel free to PM me the definition if not appropriate in public thread. If you don't mind, I'd love to live through your photos a bit more, hehe preferably more of the bargirls you tried.[/QUOTE]Connect 4 is a kids game that they play in the bars for fun, and to get the tourists drunk as hell. It's a blast if you're any good and can keep up.
They used to play liars dice the same way back in the 90's. Probably still do. Just a fun way to interact with the girls.
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[QUOTE=BadInfluence;4830703]Connect 4 is a kids game that they play in the bars for fun, and to get the tourists drunk as hell. It's a blast if you're any good and can keep up.
[/QUOTE]Play dumb, then to go the jungular.