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Hello,
I will be in your fair city next week for only one night. Actually I will only be at the airport for a 6hr layover. I have read the forum and saw that areas around the airport are ripoffs. Are there any good places within a reasonable cab ride from the airport? I really do not want to hang out at the airport for six hours.
Thanks
Went to this place on 32nd street just north of Greenway. It's a busy strip mall but on the non-busy side of it. Anyway I was surprised to find it was an AMP. Euro threw me off. Had an okay massage where I fell asleep and dreamt of a nice slow happy ending that was real sensual. When I awoke the girl (sorry forgot her name as this was more than a week ago) mentioned she sometimes worked out west at Avalon (I think? ) as the two have the same owners.
PS. Someone asked about Scottsdale Massage on Granite Reef? Was there once earlier this year. Expensive, not fs (maybe my bad luck) & nothing I wanted to go back for.
I go away and see controversy has erupted. Hell I have written reviews on ANFU myself but, I guess I wont go there anymore when Im in the valley. That way Im not tempted to write a review.
BTW We have a new AMP in Flagstaff but, it is nothing to get excited about. That makes for two up here. I hope the competition will help bring up our quality, which has been lacking.
I get what Fuji is saying, and it's something other members have pushed with respect to how much information is provided. Now we're hearing that the customers may be photo'd and personal information would be registered in the MP books.
Bad service or not, if info we're posting here gets these places shutdown, then the MP response is only logical.
I disagree with Fuji on a few points, and one thing that's most important to me; how do the MP owners guarantee that your employees are not forced to work? This is important to me and one reason why I haven't been to one of your establishments in about 2yrs.
Jackson has a great set of forums that I've been a part of for 4 or 5 years, and it's really helped me live a more satisfying life.
I'm also a member of TER and don't frequent it too much. Paying for a membership to boards like that really turn me off (plus it's not in my budget), but I've read some very detailed info that makes the stuff you see here PG rated at the most. Still, what makes the MP owners think they are safe on TER just because we have to pay for it???? Don't you think our "protectors" chip in an ante to keep track of what's going on? You MP owners ought to be much more concerned about what's posted on TER.
I've got no problem if Jackson wants to make us all log in to view the content, but I'm done if we ever have to pay to view.
Since we have the MP's attention I want to ask another question, why do we pay higher prices for service in Phoenix than is charged in California? That is something else that has kept me out of your businesses for a while.
I have always respected your privacy and will continue to do so. In return I also like to maintain my privacy, and would be able to increase my patronage if Phx prices were more similar to California prices. In order to help keep your customers safe and satisfied we need forums like Jackson's to help us share information. It's not like we can demand a refund when we aren't satisfied at an MP :) so we take our chances and help each other out, hopefully we'll all find a happy medium.
Anybody seen a cute little Korean. She goes by Ivy, Yoyo, Angie, or Coco, Annie. 5'2" skinny natural b/c's scar on right tit. nice abs. big nose.
I'm the owner of a massage business that doesn't offer the extra services described in many of the dreams posted here. First, I respect everyone's decisions and choices and intend absolutely no disrespect with this post. My sole intent is to attempt to avoid any misunderstandings that are both embarrassing and inconvenient for the business owner, massage therapist and patient.
Our office is light and open, doesn't have a glass window at the reception desk, doesn't display neon signs, isn't open very early or very late and my staff always tries to be as straight forward and explicit about our services as possible. Despite my efforts to make the appearance obvious to those looking for other services there are, more often than I would expect, patients that are intent on pushing boundaries in their questioning either before or during the session.
My question to the members of this board, is there any way I can be more clear about the nature of our services in order to avoid the misunderstandings?
[QUOTE=Phxguy]I'm the owner of a massage business that doesn't offer the extra services described in many of the dreams posted here. First, I respect everyone's decisions and choices and intend absolutely no disrespect with this post. My sole intent is to attempt to avoid any misunderstandings that are both embarrassing and inconvenient for the business owner, massage therapist and patient.
Our office is light and open, doesn't have a glass window at the reception desk, doesn't display neon signs, isn't open very early or very late and my staff always tries to be as straight forward and explicit about our services as possible. Despite my efforts to make the appearance obvious to those looking for other services there are, more often than I would expect, patients that are intent on pushing boundaries in their questioning either before or during the session.
My question to the members of this board, is there any way I can be more clear about the nature of our services in order to avoid the misunderstandings?[/QUOTE]
It sounds as though you're doing a lot right already. I assume that a place with "Therapeutic Massage" in the name doesn't offer extras - a pretentious name goes a long way: "Xenu's Therapeutic Massage and Aromatherapy", for example, rather than "Ramen Massage". My wife and sister seem to gravitate toward places with "European sounding" names, generally one word.
Also, but to a lesser extent, signs about "hot stone massage", "aromatherapy", "couple's massage", blather about toxins and "aura sculpting" and whatnot. Perhaps you could get a life-sized poster of Margaret Thatcher to keep customers "out of the mood" ;-)
Probably wouldn't hurt to post clear guidelines on tipping as well - maybe "Tipping is not required, but a 15% gratuity wouldn't be refused" (you're the busniess guy, work out nice wording).
Taking a cue from a recent new member, maybe a color TV monitor on the wall (with camera) so you "see yourself on TV" as you come in. You might prevent mongers *and* holdups...
Unfortunately, the world is full of dorks, and some of them will inevitably find their way to your business, no matter what your business is.
Tooncinator
Finally got back to see Tasha after 6 weeks. Same great service same great price. New girl from CA is also there. I have not tried and not going to as long as Tasha is there.
Pepe56
Friend visited here, Amy took care of him. He wasn't too fond of the service - way too fast, too mechanical, weak attempt at a massage. Full menu but time better spent elsewhere. Would not repeat.
[QUOTE=Chilly Willy]It is difficult to see why an intelligent individual would join a forum and, in response to reasonable questions posed by senior members, call those members morons.[/QUOTE]
Point well taken Chilly Willy. I am addressing this post to Jackson.
If the integrity of this board means anything to you, please listen to what we have to say.
You have declared that a certain member 'Tempe_Stud 75' should be banned from the USG. You did not do that, instead you very graciously granted him his own thread.
Now Mr Tempe_Stud 75 has reincarnated himself as 'pussywrecker'.
This individual has the same behavioral characteristics as Tempe_Stud 75.
If 'banning' means 'looking the other way' while your dedicated members have to deal with this idiot, then perhaps we all need to evaluate our membership in the USG. I would hate for any of us to abandon this forum, but in my particular case, recent developments have given me cause for review.
Either the USG has rules or it doesn't. If it does then they should be applied fairly and forcefully.
DN
Just a comment here:
I don't know if the two are the same - I think there are definitely similar attitudes present, and it is odd that both come from RI (while entirely possible, the likelihood of one appearing just after the other gets banned to his own little corner of the forums, then defending said banned person, is pretty slim. Not to mention that there's really only 50 or so active posters in the Phoenix section of the forums, and to have such similarities between the two makes it all the more questionable.).
As for Jackson and banning - it's virtually impossible to keep someone out of public forums. I've been a forums administrator for many years, and the tools one has to do so are extremely limited and are easily circumventable by someone who is determined and has a basic understanding of how the internet works. Kudos to Jackson though for what he is able to do and has done. And if you want to reevaluate your membership to a public forums because of the actions of another member, then I'm afraid you're giving that troll the win.
If you must do something, simply ignore him, and eventually he'll shut up and go away to find attention elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Dick North]Point well taken Chilly Willy. I am addressing this post to Jackson.
If the integrity of this board means anything to you, please listen to what we have to say.
You have declared that a certain member 'Tempe_Stud 75' should be banned from the USG. You did not do that, instead you very graciously granted him his own thread.
Now Mr Tempe_Stud 75 has reincarnated himself as 'pussywrecker'.
This individual has the same behavioral characteristics as Tempe_Stud 75.
If 'banning' means 'looking the other way' while your dedicated members have to deal with this idiot, then perhaps we all need to evaluate our membership in the USG. I would hate for any of us to abandon this forum, but in my particular case, recent developments have given me cause for review.
Either the USG has rules or it doesn't. If it does then they should be applied fairly and forcefully.
DN[/QUOTE][blue]Hi Dick North,
Believe it or not, but I know exactly what I'm doing when it comes to managing serial antagonists, and in this case I was implementing a specific plan to control Tempe Stud. In part, this strategy was to aggravate Tempe Stud to the point that he would quit in disgust, which is the only way to really rid any free forum of a determined serial antagonist.
However, this strategy requires that the target serial antagonist does not realize that he is being manipulated, but unfortunately for me and the rest of the forum, your decision to essentially "call me out" regarding what you perceive as my management shortcomings has forced me to explain myself publicly, which simultaneously negates the entire strategy.
Yes, I knew from his first post that Pussywrecker was Tempe_Stud 75. However, it sometimes happens that formerly banned and subsequently reincarnated members do change their behavior, and that's a good thing. Part of my strategy is to give them a second chance, and if they fail to act responsibly, then I can ban them again, although it takes a few posts to make this determination. All the members need to do to help me out in these situations is to report the problematic behavior and let me do my job.
I have additional strategies for dealing with serial antagonists which I employ as needed and for the most stubborn cases, but for obvious reasons I do not wish to tip my hand by revealing them here.
Next time you have a question about my management of this forum, please do me the courtesy of sending me an email and I will explain myself privately.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]... Next time you have a question about my management of this forum, please do me the courtesy of sending me an email...[/blue][/QUOTE]Quick question: When I click on "Admin" in your post, there's no option to send a PM. Just 'Add Admin to your buddy list" and other useful, but non-PM options. How does one send you a PM?
Thanks for everything,
Toons
[QUOTE=Tooncinator]Quick question: When I click on "Admin" in your post, there's no option to send a PM. Just 'Add Admin to your buddy list" and other useful, but non-PM options. How does one send you a PM?
Thanks for everything,
Toons[/QUOTE]"Contact Us" button at the bottom, which takes you to this page:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sendmessage.php[/url]
That should do the trick! :)
What mp (in your opinion) has the best massage? Not just some poking and patting, a real relaxing massage.
[QUOTE=Mcdboi2001]What mp (in your opinion) has the best massage? Not just some poking and patting, a real relaxing massage.[/QUOTE]I can tell you what place has the worst massage. Don't waste your time at the Avalon. I got a saran wrapped covered BJ at this dump.
[QUOTE=Mcdboi2001]What mp (in your opinion) has the best massage? Not just some poking and patting, a real relaxing massage.[/QUOTE]
That depends on what you go for. I have rather a different perspective than Phxguydb on what constitutes a massage. ;-)
I've always had great massages at Avalon and tend to go there more than anywhere else. If you go for the 1-hour, there's a very pleasant table shower thrown in. The technicians at Avalon are LMTs and do a "Swedish style" massage with oil. I like to bring my own unscented along.
If you prefer Japanese, a dry rub with the option of having her walk on you (not for the frail) I really like Tokyo, on 51st Ave in Glendale. I've only seen one masseuse there. She loosened me up so good that I don't bother going if she's not there, but I'd guess some of the others are also talented.
For Korean-style massage (not my personal fave, also no oil) there's Anfu in Glendale. No technician to suggest there; the one's I knew have moved on.
Hth,
Tooncinator
I by massage I mean the actual body rub. Also I'm in the east valley if that narrows it down.
[QUOTE=Mcdboi2001]I by massage I mean the actual body rub. Also I'm in the east valley if that narrows it down.[/QUOTE]
If you're not looking for extras, I've had great massages at the Oriental Healing Center in Ahwatukee, north of Chandler Blvd and 42nd Street, in the strip mall just West of the Sonic. Typical rates ($45/half $60/hour I think) - but the ladies definitely give a nice quality massage (it's like a legit AMP).
[QUOTE=Tooncinator]That depends on what you go for. I have rather a different perspective than Phxguydb on what constitutes a massage. ;-)
I've always had great massages at Avalon and tend to go there more than anywhere else. If you go for the 1-hour, there's a very pleasant table shower thrown in. The technicians at Avalon are LMTs and do a "Swedish style" massage with oil. I like to bring my own unscented along.
If you prefer Japanese, a dry rub with the option of having her walk on you (not for the frail) I really like Tokyo, on 51st Ave in Glendale. I've only seen one masseuse there. She loosened me up so good that I don't bother going if she's not there, but I'd guess some of the others are also talented.
For Korean-style massage (not my personal fave, also no oil) there's Anfu in Glendale. No technician to suggest there; the one's I knew have moved on.
Hth,
Tooncinator[/QUOTE]What about a relatively erotic one but no extras intended?
Say, body rub or something?
Went to see Tasha again. Same great Service. Same great Price.
Pepe
[QUOTE=Timo Wong]What about a relatively erotic one but no extras intended?
Say, body rub or something?[/QUOTE]
That's a tough one, and out of my experience. The closest I get is a pedicure , where I gaze at the cleavage of a nicely-stacked Viet girl for the better part of an hour -- if I get a cute, nicely-stacked one, that is. Kind of luck of the draw. That's strictly a knees-down experience though.
At least the price is right: 20 to 30 bucks, tip included. ;-)
Toons
[QUOTE=Tooncinator]That's a tough one, and out of my experience. The closest I get is a pedicure , where I gaze at the cleavage of a nicely-stacked Viet girl for the better part of an hour -- if I get a cute, nicely-stacked one, that is. Kind of luck of the draw. That's strictly a knees-down experience though.
At least the price is right: 20 to 30 bucks, tip included. ;-)
Toons[/QUOTE]Haha yeah I kinda enjoy the tease but at the same time not too interested in strip club LOL I know they have things like that in Japan.
Decided to skip lunch today and sampled a massage parlor at the corner of N. Higley and E. Brown Rd in Mesa. Van out in front of the strip mall had Massage painted on it. Typical setup and cost and I left very satisfied. Good way to spend ones lunch time.
Ag at Baseline & Superstition Springs had a wonderful masseuse by the name of Lilly (pronounced Lee-Lee). MMS says she is on vacation but has been gone now for a few weeks. She's attractive, a little older but under 40 and gives a wonderful soft touch caressing massage. Would love to find out if she has perhaps relocated to another AMP.
Was out walking and noticed a sign on Brown near E 3rd Ave in Scottsdale. 30ish woman out front putting out the sign for the night. She flagged me down, "Want a massage?" I usually prefer American service, so I passed.
She was a 5-6 neck up, but 9-10 waist down.
Good luck.
Saw Tasha again this week. Same great service. Same great price. Best ACG in the West.
Pepe
I wanted to try the place at Central and Highland again cause the price was so good last time. I grabbed a New Times, tore out the coupon, and noticed that they were open 'till 11pm. I drove over at about 9:30 and the place was locked up and closed for the night. Now what to do. I drove to my favorite standby, also cheap, on 16th st. It's open! I go in and the lady that greets me says they have taken their last customer for the night. I wasn't that disappointed cause the lady that came out was old and ugly.
Next drove VB to apache to Main and back. Nothing worth stopping for. I tend to skip SW anyway. More of an AMP man.
Went home unhappy.
Check this out:
[url]http://s325.photobucket.com/albums/k387/9019_2008/?start=all[/url]
Photobucket stikes again!
[url]http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/ers/evl?query=6093&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max[/url]
If only the photos matched the gals working?
[QUOTE=Az Dude]Check this out:
[url]http://s325.photobucket.com/albums/k387/9019_2008/?start=all[/url]
Photobucket stikes again!
[url]http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/ers/evl?query=6093&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max[/url]
If only the photos matched the gals working?[/QUOTE]Hi AZ Dude,
If you watch Jap Porn, you will recognize some of the girls posted. These are pictures of Japanese Adult Video(AV) stars. The other provocative ones I don't recognize, but there are a lot of young girls in Jap that takes these photos and publish them in hope of becoming famous.
I highly doubt these Jap girls have come all the way across the sea to good old Phoenix to make us happy. ( Supposedly, some AV girls do work and you'd have to pay over US$1,000 for two hours of their time)
People using these pictures are mostly from China who has little regards for copy right.
Be careful.
too funny.. yep.. I havent seen gals like those in
AMPs since le sun in 'Inglehood' CA closed down.!
(at least at a price I could afford)
I presumed as such, just thought it was hilarious
that they think we're that 'gullible'
I see adds sometimes for a massage parlor with All-american staff. Anyone try this one? If not, I may have to TOFTT.
[QUOTE=Twah70]Was out walking and noticed a sign on Brown near E 3rd Ave in Scottsdale. 30ish woman out front putting out the sign for the night. She flagged me down, "Want a massage?" I usually prefer American service, so I passed.
She was a 5-6 neck up, but 9-10 waist down.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
The service there can be good, worth the visit IMHO. Always been the same woman during my visits.
[QUOTE=Twah70]I see adds sometimes for a massage parlor with All-american staff. Anyone try this one? If not, I may have to TOFTT.[/QUOTE]
I made a drive-by at this place a few months back. Maybe I was there on a bad day, but the staff was scary looking. Tweaked out big time. Just my one experience...
I tried the Central/Highland location again. It was open. Went in and the sign said they were all busy, take a seat. I waited 10 minutes and left. Went back to 'ol fav on 16th street. Got Linda again. She got me for 70 bucks for a topless HJ. I guess I'll write this one off my list now. Don't they know the economy sucks and people don't have money?
Stopped by for a visit with Tasha the other day in Mesa.
Pepe, you are right.
She' got the ACG totally down and the massage is nice.
Just a comment here, but I come here and partake in this hobby in part to ESCAPE from life's daily BS, but lately there has been more bitching going on in here than what I hear from my wife, and that's saying a LOT. Let's just keep it civil, stop with the fricking flame wars, and get back to the topic at hand.
On that note, yesterday I visited the Ahwatukee AMP that I had been to before. It's under new management now and is called Sedona Massage (42nd St/Chandler). The girl working was the only person there, a cute for her age (late 30s, early 40s?) Chinese spinner named Angel. I didn't push for anything because I wasn't sure about the new owners and what the rules were, but I did strip down and was rather lax about towel coverage. But damn, she gave me one hell of a kick ass massage. It was like a combination of a massage and a chiropractor visit. We got to talking a little bit, and as the massage went on (it was only a 30 minute one because I was short on time), she started talking about how if I came back for a 90 minute massage it was a much different experience on the flip and giggled a bit while she removed the towel to massage my inner thighs.
It could possibly be a sales ploy, but it seemed to me the hint was that extras were a possibility. I'll be going out of town next week on business, but when I get back, I'm going to try giving that 90-minute massage a try (even if extras aren't there, who can't love a 90 minute quality massage?)
Rates:
30 min: $40
60 min: $60
90 min: $90
Probably not the best time to ask a question but here it goes. Tried doing a search for massage ace but not getting anything. I'm sure there's been at least one report. Is it one of the more expensive places? I ask because I stopped by a place on Alma School just S. Of the 60 by Old Chicago restaurant. Just saw it by accident and must have missed the name of the place. Didn't have time for a massage but wanted to see if it was asian or what. Anyway, really good looking latina came out and said they had both asian and latina. She gave me a business card which stated "Massage Ace". Now I'm trying to decide if the place is worth a try.
[QUOTE=Humpie]Probably not the best time to ask a question but here it goes. Tried doing a search for massage ace but not getting anything. I'm sure there's been at least one report. Is it one of the more expensive places? I ask because I stopped by a place on Alma School just S. Of the 60 by Old Chicago restaurant. Just saw it by accident and must have missed the name of the place. Didn't have time for a massage but wanted to see if it was asian or what. Anyway, really good looking latina came out and said they had both asian and latina. She gave me a business card which stated "Massage Ace". Now I'm trying to decide if the place is worth a try.[/QUOTE]
I think you'll find that most rates as AMPs are pretty consistent. And consistently they will ask too much, you have to bargain down to what the going rate is, and go from there. What sets one AMP apart from another is usually service, not $. Part of the fun is trying new places - go for it and report back.
Stopped to see Tasha again today. Same great service. Same great price. Best ACG in the West. I love those Asian spinners.
Pepe