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Talent
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;3750000]We should always say no to upfront payment. If everyone did it, she would probably quit asking. Shame though because the talent is pretty good right now.[/QUOTE]Again I ask, what does she do to people that refuse tip upfront? Last I was there I did, gave her 60 for hour, she pointed at wallet and held demanding hand out, I politly said no, I tip sandy. She walked out. I had fun. I will go back and do same thing. Not sure what I would do if no one ever came in and she kept my 60. Ha do the walk of shame? Or if anyone saw old movie fish called wanda. When dude starts eating fish from fish tank threatening other dude for info. Mama freak out middle age white man naked by fish tank grabbing fish saying. Maaaaaaama! Give me my money or sandy!! Ha hope things change it is nice when a fairly nice mama works at AMPs. Stay safe.
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Tip
I never top up front I've been asked several times at different places I always say no I'll tip the girl.
[QUOTE=MNick;3750428]Again I ask, what does she do to people that refuse tip upfront? Last I was there I did, gave her 60 for hour, she pointed at wallet and held demanding hand out, I politly said no, I tip sandy. She walked out. I had fun. I will go back and do same thing. Not sure what I would do if no one ever came in and she kept my 60. Ha do the walk of shame? Or if anyone saw old movie fish called wanda. When dude starts eating fish from fish tank threatening other dude for info. Mama freak out middle age white man naked by fish tank grabbing fish saying. Maaaaaaama! Give me my money or sandy!! Ha hope things change it is nice when a fairly nice mama works at AMPs. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]
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Earlier this week, I met Ginny at Spring Spa. She was a smiling spinner who seemed to enjoy our time together. For the first time in a long time, I actually had my full allotted time.
Once gain, I would say that if you are deciding which spa to pick, then go with Spring. It is cleaner and the mamasan is friendlier. The girls are better overall.
Ginny is worth a visit if you have never met her. Having said that, the other two girls are nice too from my experiences.
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Spring
[QUOTE=Macatawa;3761005]Earlier this week, I met Ginny at Spring Spa. She was a smiling spinner who seemed to enjoy our time together. For the first time in a long time, I actually had my full allotted time.
Once gain, I would say that if you are deciding which spa to pick, then go with Spring. It is cleaner and the mamasan is friendlier. The girls are better overall.
Ginny is worth a visit if you have never met her. Having said that, the other two girls are nice too from my experiences.[/QUOTE]Second that. Was driving by on the way to work and saw that they were open early at 8:30 am. I figured what the hell, I come in late to work! Did not regret.
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Happy, not so good
Visited Happy on Monday to see about a dream with Sandy. Unfortunately she was occupied, so I drew Vivian. I should have just left, as she's a bit thick, a bit of a belly, & not really my type. I guess she's only been there a couple weeks, so I opted to give it a try. I had a difficult time completing the transaction, as I was expecting Sandy. Her service was ok, and she really did everything she could to satisfy my needs, but overall just average. I guess it is difficult to compete w / Sandy, and have other quality options available at Happy. Hopefully next visit will be better.
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That was a first
Was in Michigan Saturday visiting family so I decided I would swing by Spring after reading the reviews. I ask to see Ginny and was told she was not there nd woul be gone for three weeks. Mama said I have another girl and I ask to see her. She was a tall girl just not my type so I left. Drove over to Happy and was met by Mamasan at the door. She takes me to a room and this is were the first happened. She ask me if I wanted FS. I have never been ask that before so I said I will discuss with Sandy. She says do you have tip for girl and I said yes I will discuss tip with Sandy. After reading all of the reviews I think she was trying to find out how much I would tip so she could pressure Sandy for her cut. Other than that my visit was great and Sandy did not disappoint.
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Ave A spa
Stopped to see Abby was told she doesn't work there anymore. That sucks she was full service.
Wasted my money on a dead fish named Skyler.
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Spring- Ginny
Hadn't had a massage w/Ginny for years, since I stopped going to Happy (uncomfortable there). When she came over to Spring in BC as back up to Mija (Lucky) & Lilly, I was Surprised. Yesterday stopped by there & Ginny was only lady on. Tried her for an hour. Was Very disappointed w/her session. In comparison to Past Talent & esp Mija & Lilly, Ginny was Underwhelming. Massage Ok. Not Into Offering extras, in nearly the way that Mija & Lilly Do. All this despite a big tip for the hour. Of Course, YMMV. But I'd Pass next time if Ginny's the only girl available. Hope Mija (Lucky) &/or Lilly Return soon. Be Safe, JJ.
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Surprising
[QUOTE=JJletsplay;3787524]Hadn't had a massage w/Ginny for years, since I stopped going to Happy (uncomfortable there). When she came over to Spring in BC as back up to Mija (Lucky) & Lilly, I was Surprised. Yesterday stopped by there & Ginny was only lady on. Tried her for an hour. Was Very disappointed w/her session. In comparison to Past Talent & esp Mija & Lilly, Ginny was Underwhelming. Massage Ok. Not Into Offering extras, in nearly the way that Mija & Lilly Do. All this despite a big tip for the hour. Of Course, YMMV. But I'd Pass next time if Ginny's the only girl available. Hope Mija (Lucky) &/or Lilly Return soon. Be Safe, JJ.[/QUOTE]That is surprising, she has been my favorite for over a decade. I always have a super good time with her.
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Big change.
I heard they had a pretty big change of staff.
[QUOTE=Bobcat2;3776737]Stopped to see Abby was told she doesn't work there anymore. That sucks she was full service.
Wasted my money on a dead fish named Skyler.[/QUOTE]
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Surprise!!
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;3787726]That is surprising, she has been my favorite for over a decade. I always have a super good time with her.[/QUOTE]I Hear Ya SlyGuy. I too was very surprised! Ginny had always been a fav for me too, but this goes back several years. Been that long without stepping foot in Happy, where she was prev. - Treated Badly there by the house. Maybe I just didn't have many other good AMPs at that time, to compare her to. But, Now different story. Others I mentioned at Spring are just Way Better for my money & liking. For Everyone tho- YMMV. Be Well & safe, JJ.
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[QUOTE=JJletsplay;3788639]I Hear Ya SlyGuy. I too was very surprised! Ginny had always been a fav for me too, but this goes back several years. Been that long without stepping foot in Happy, where she was prev. - Treated Badly there by the house. Maybe I just didn't have many other good AMPs at that time, to compare her to. But, Now different story. Others I mentioned at Spring are just Way Better for my money & liking. For Everyone tho- YMMV. Be Well & safe, JJ.[/QUOTE]My time with Ginny was a good one, but then we all know that YMMV for so many reasons.
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Change is good
[QUOTE=HotRob269;3788027]I heard they had a pretty big change of staff.[/QUOTE]I hope Avenue gets some decent girls! The place has potential if girls are good looking, don't upsell, keep customer happiness in mind and stick to standard finishes. Last time I visited I saw Addison (I think, don't remember the name exactly). She was chubby with pierced nipples. She was a nice person but when she got topless for me and I got close to her, her nipples stink. May be previous guy went crazy on them and she didn't bother to at least wash them with mild soap or water! Really turned me off. I haven't been back since that day!
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Spring spa. So I had some time and thought I would go check out Spring again. Been a year. Well the shower started good and off to the room we went. She got just as comfortable as I was a d then she started the rub down. Then she reaches under and starts playing with me.
I ask her to stop, but she keeps going. I even lowered my body down.
Well she manages to release me anyhow.
Then says that she guesses she was too good and laughs. Oh I get you hot towel. Then proceeds to tell me, I have other customer waiting. 30 min and done.
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[QUOTE=Passingthru69;3806068]Spring spa. So I had some time and thought I would go check out Spring again. Been a year. Well the shower started good and off to the room we went. She got just as comfortable as I was a d then she started the rub down. Then she reaches under and starts playing with me.
I ask her to stop, but she keeps going. I even lowered my body down.
Well she manages to release me anyhow.
Then says that she guesses she was too good and laughs. Oh I get you hot towel. Then proceeds to tell me, I have other customer waiting. 30 min and done.[/QUOTE]IME buy a half hour only. You will at least get 25 minutes if you ask for a shower. When you get the hour, you will rarely get more than 45 minutes.
Were there other customers waiting? What was her name?
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Yes, she said sorry I am only girl working and customer waiting. I'm like WTF. You rush me and then walk out for next guy.
I don't remember her name. Cute, short. I know.
Kinda chubby but in a good way. I think she was the same lady I saw last year. When I walked out there was a pickup parked near my vehicle which was not there when I arrived.
Just disappointed being rushed like I was.
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Wondering Name
[QUOTE=Passingthru69;3808182]Yes, she said sorry I am only girl working and customer waiting. I'm like WTF. You rush me and then walk out for next guy.
I don't remember her name. Cute, short. I know.
Kinda chubby but in a good way. I think she was the same lady I saw last year. When I walked out there was a pickup parked near my vehicle which was not there when I arrived.
Just disappointed being rushed like I was.[/QUOTE]Hey Passingthru, Does Either of These Names Ring a Bell w / you, re: Spring Rush session. Maybe Mija (mee-juh) ? Or Lucky? Just wondering for consideration.
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[QUOTE=Passingthru69;3808182]Yes, she said sorry I am only girl working and customer waiting. I'm like WTF. You rush me and then walk out for next guy.
I don't remember her name. Cute, short. I know.
Kinda chubby but in a good way. I think she was the same lady I saw last year. When I walked out there was a pickup parked near my vehicle which was not there when I arrived.
Just disappointed being rushed like I was.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Mija. She rushed me before too. When she doesn't rush, then she is great.
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Any updates on talent?
We've had a hiatus in communication that now appears to be resolved.
Any updates on the talent at Happy (is Sandy still there? Any other talent?
How about Spring? (Mija still there?) Any others?
I've never been to the Avenues.
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Update
[QUOTE=Electronman;3813365]We've had a hiatus in communication that now appears to be resolved.
Any updates on the talent at Happy (is Sandy still there? Any other talent?
How about Spring? (Mija still there?) Any others?
I've never been to the Avenues.[/QUOTE]Eman, At Spring Mija (aka Lucky) Is still There. Usually does a stellar job for me. When she's gone, only other I'll see there is Lily. Ginny is in & out of Spring also, but I'm Not a Fan of Hers. Unsure re: Sandy at Happy- I'm Not Comfortable There anymore. Avenue is usually a Financial Stroking- LOL. Take Care.
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[QUOTE=JJletsplay;3813808]Eman, At Spring Mija (aka Lucky) Is still There. Usually does a stellar job for me. When she's gone, only other I'll see there is Lily. Ginny is in & out of Spring also, but I'm Not a Fan of Hers. Unsure re: Sandy at Happy- I'm Not Comfortable There anymore. Avenue is usually a Financial Stroking- LOL. Take Care.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update JJ. I did stop by Spring and Mija is still working there, as you reported.
She's a bit "thick" for my tastes (but I tend to like slender, girl-next-door looks) but she is certainly enthusiastic when it comes to customer service.
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[QUOTE=JJletsplay;3813808]Eman, At Spring Mija (aka Lucky) Is still There. Usually does a stellar job for me. When she's gone, only other I'll see there is Lily. Ginny is in & out of Spring also, but I'm Not a Fan of Hers. Unsure re: Sandy at Happy- I'm Not Comfortable There anymore. Avenue is usually a Financial Stroking- LOL. Take Care.[/QUOTE]Last time I was at Happy I didn't see that old mama and there was another plumper, friendlier, not as old kitchen lady greeting me at the door.
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Try Lilly
[QUOTE=Electronman;3815641]Thanks for the update JJ. I did stop by Spring and Mija is still working there, as you reported.
She's a bit "thick" for my tastes (but I tend to like slender, girl-next-door looks) but she is certainly enthusiastic when it comes to customer service.[/QUOTE]Eman, just FYI- the same CS Enthusiasm as Mija, has also been given to me, by Lilly. Its rare that she's there much recently and its usually on weekends. She is more the body type you seek. Also Very Good massage / CS. Great personality / Fun. If interested in her- I Always Call Ahead & Ask. Be Well & Safe. JJ.
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[QUOTE=JJletsplay;3813808]Eman, At Spring Mija (aka Lucky) Is still There. Usually does a stellar job for me. When she's gone, only other I'll see there is Lily. Ginny is in & out of Spring also, but I'm Not a Fan of Hers. Unsure re: Sandy at Happy- I'm Not Comfortable There anymore. Avenue is usually a Financial Stroking- LOL. Take Care.[/QUOTE]Saw Sandy at Happy a few weeks ago. She looked good and provided services as usual, but very rushed due to the constant ringing of the door bell. In / out in 45 minutes with table shower & sauna.
Fellow mongers: if there are two cars in the lot. Please come back later.
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Spring
So I decided to go to spring, mija aka lucky was the only one working. I paid for a hour with a shower, was back in my car in 35 min. Said she had other customer. Second time I've been rush. That was my last visit there. We need another AMP in town. They have both gone down hill in the last year.
Be safe.
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New AMP?
Just saw an ad on STG for an AMP on Columbia between capital and 20th.
[URL]http://battle-creek.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/best-massage-in-town-relax-spa/345943224457[/URL]
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Happy Spa
Making my way thru to Chi-town from Motown, I ventured into Happy hoping to find Sandy. I got Connie. Everything good. Worked hard for the $. 60 plus $ tip total. Should have called first. On the fence about returning.
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New AMP
[QUOTE=BCHunter;3830735]Just saw an ad on STG for an AMP on Columbia between capital and 20th.
[URL]http://battle-creek.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/best-massage-in-town-relax-spa/345943224457[/URL][/QUOTE]Happy and Spring are both good but it would be nice to have some more options and maybe some younger talent. Please post a review if anyone samples this place.
BTW-- thanks for the updates and suggestions in this thread!
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Relax spa.
I tried Relax Spa on Columbia. $40 house fee HH. Momma puts me in room. Who comes walking in but Connie that used to work at Happy. $100 tip for FS. About average. I didn't see any other girls, I think she might have been the only one working. That said, it won't last long, it's on a busy road, and in a busy strip mall. I may hold off visiting again for a while until there are other reviews. Not a Connie fan.
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Relax spa
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;3832628]I tried Relax Spa on Columbia. $40 house fee HH. Momma puts me in room. Who comes walking in but Connie that used to work at Happy. $100 tip for FS. About average. I didn't see any other girls, I think she might have been the only one working. That said, it won't last long, it's on a busy road, and in a busy strip mall. I may hold off visiting again for a while until there are other reviews. Not a Connie fan.[/QUOTE]I had tried this place last month when it first opened and a skinny girl named Annie was working there. Gave massage for the entire time. No extras the first time. On my second visit yet again she gave massage the whole time and towards the end I tried to get HJ. After so much convincing she finally gave me a crappy HJ. Haven't repeated since then!
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Tried Relax
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;3832628]I tried Relax Spa on Columbia. $40 house fee HH. Momma puts me in room. Who comes walking in but Connie that used to work at Happy. $100 tip for FS. About average. I didn't see any other girls, I think she might have been the only one working. That said, it won't last long, it's on a busy road, and in a busy strip mall. I may hold off visiting again for a while until there are other reviews. Not a Connie fan.[/QUOTE]Hoping to see Connie at the new place, I drove over Sat. No Connie & No one enticing looking. Older Mama looking Lady / Sophia, coaxed me into trying an HH massage w / Refund Promise if Not Happy. She was Great. For Massage that is. FS seemed to Not Even Be an Option there. Full time plus. Very attentive. Experienced. Strong Hands w / Oil. Stayed the Hour & I Was Limp as a noodle afterward. Sophia- Recommended. Great for Massage (only). Perhaps HE would be poss, But I Didn't Explore. YMMV of course. Good Luck. BTW- Sly's prob. Correct- They won't Make it There. True Massage Lovers- Check Her Out! Be Well, JJ / Kzoo.
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Connie
[QUOTE=JJletsplay;3838215]Hoping to see Connie at the new place, I drove over Sat. No Connie & No one enticing looking. Older Mama looking Lady / Sophia, coaxed me into trying an HH massage w / Refund Promise if Not Happy. She was Great. For Massage that is. FS seemed to Not Even Be an Option there. Full time plus. Very attentive. Experienced. Strong Hands w / Oil. Stayed the Hour & I Was Limp as a noodle afterward. Sophia- Recommended. Great for Massage (only). Perhaps HE would be poss, But I Didn't Explore. YMMV of course. Good Luck. BTW- Sly's prob. Correct- They won't Make it There. True Massage Lovers- Check Her Out! Be Well, JJ / Kzoo.[/QUOTE]Connie is at happy again. She was introduced to me on the way out.
Which I was happy to see.
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Double dipping.
[QUOTE=Ouliksak;3840012]Connie is at happy again. She was introduced to me on the way out.
Which I was happy to see.[/QUOTE]Wondering if Connie works both places. You know they are all tied together somehow. I heard a rumor that the same people own Happy and Relax. The are losing so much business to Spring, that they opened a new place. I don't consider my source of the rumor to be very reliable.
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Sandy at Happy
Having avoided Happy for so long (due to nasty treatment on way in- Mama) I finally went back recently. The buzz about Sandy made me ask for her & caught her at a good time (No rush). She was Great & can totally See why She Has such a Loyal Following w / mongers Here. Massage was Very Good. & Service beyond was also Very Good. Got my tips worth & left relaxed. She is 1 of the best in this area- Recommend. But Personally & IMO, I have had much Better experiences consistently at Spring, with the usual long term MPs there. Of course YMMV. Be Safe & well, JJ.
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Hours.
[QUOTE=Kazoomick;3761350]Second that. Was driving by on the way to work and saw that they were open early at 8:30 am. I figured what the hell, I come in late to work! Did not regret.[/QUOTE]Rubmaps shows the hours for spring as 24 hours. Are they really open 24 hours? How much to tip for HJ there?
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Doubt 24
[QUOTE=NeverTell;3856229]Rubmaps shows the hours for spring as 24 hours. Are they really open 24 hours? How much to tip for HJ there?[/QUOTE]Unless there's been a Recent Change, Spring has very Liberally Long Hours- But Not 24. Think, like 8 am-Midnight, when I Last Asked. Rubmaps as We Know, is Often Wrong on Info. Be Safe and stay happy. JJ. P.S. - Never have Done Just HJ There. Don't Know- LOL.
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[QUOTE=NeverTell;3856229]Rubmaps shows the hours for spring as 24 hours. Are they really open 24 hours? How much to tip for HJ there?[/QUOTE]From what I have read, a standard tip is appreciated by the massage girl. You can try as low as matching the session rate or as high as a tip of 100 per half or 140 for an hour. Whatever happens happens and may or may not be related to the actual tip.
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Right On the $$ - LOL
[QUOTE=Macatawa;3858365]From what I have read, a standard tip is appreciated by the massage girl. You can try as low as matching the session rate or as high as a tip of 100 per half or 140 for an hour. Whatever happens happens and may or may not be related to the actual tip.[/QUOTE]I feel IMO & experience, Macatawa is Exactly Accurate. Mac Couldn't have Run it Down Better for the newbies. Also serves as a Review for Seniors. Esp the part about "what happens, happens". Don't Forget gentlemen, these Providers are Working Ladies & Need to be Treated Well, If you Expect the Best Result. Some may deserve Negative Treatment, based on Their Behavior. Most Deserve To Like You, thru your Actions / Words & therefore You'll Get the Best Result! Be Careful & Remember "Positive Provider Karma" exists. Thanks Macatawa! JJ.
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Relax
I stopped by today, 40 ish short thin girl was working. She did not speak english. Great massage though, no extra, she got a little uncomfortable, when the little guy decided to stand up. Nothing offered. Still good massage.
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You guys are very lucky!
Hello all! I wanted to pop in and add a comment.
I'm visiting from southern Ohio, and I just wanted to add an outside perspective to my fellow mongers here.
You guys are very lucky, with all the options you have here. In my area the AMPs were not only shut down but had the buildings torn down. There are only legit places now in my area. However I have learned a few things because of that and I wanted to share to 'hopefully' improve your time here.
First thing I learned was politeness, the girls here obviously have options, and I have read here that some mongers are pretty demanding, remember you're not the only one capable of handing them money so make yourself worth it for them and you'll have a better time.
Second, learn a little Chinese like 'thank you' or 'very good' they lose their shit when they hear it and your time is improved. Trust me.
Always be date ready, like showered before hand, look good and be confident it makes a difference. These girls have to make money and there is no reason not to make their time better also, it gets paid forward, trust me.
In the area I'm at, I've managed to get HE's from places that never ordinarily do it, because I do these things. I know it's not necessary here, but I am a visitor, and do not want to be a cause of drama for you lucky guys up here while I take in the local talent. I hope I don't come off brash or rude, I just want to be helpful. Anyway, stay safe and count your blessings!